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November 26, 2022, 02:36:17 PM
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I hope to see a better Adesanya on his next matches and slowly build again his game for another title match or rematch to Pereira. I do notice something wrong to Izzy at that time but I just ignored it because Pereira is just so dominant. Well we never know what’s the truth.
Its the balance, he hurt his peroneal nerve which is why he cannot dance or circle anymore and he was pinned to the cage he knows he is winning but he cannot do what he wants to do and his limited movement was exploited by Alex

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I’m just scared if he can overcome this second loss or he will let his career slide down like the typical outcome when topnotch fighter suffer tremendous loss on title match.
Israel is on a 60 days medical suspension and Alex is willing to give him another shot at the title this MMA rematch is very crucial in his career and has a huge impact on his legacy in MMA but I guess Alex will have his first defense before facing Adesanya again, hopefully, Alex is still the champion when they face again.
Did not hear he had a severe injury that can affect him so immensely in the octagon such as a peroneal nerve handicap.

I knew Pereira going in had something wrong with him prior to the main event because he did not look like himself like every other challenge he had thus far.
It was confirmed late yesterday he had a hand injury (a finger actually) which shouldn't have interfered with his performance.

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2022/11/25/23478065/ufc-281-mma-news-interview-media-alex-pereira-israel-adesanya-injury-fight
https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/35094861/ufc-champ-alex-pereira-says-fought-israel-adesanya-injured-finger

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March 22, 2023, 12:09:28 AM
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Here it is the next bout in this saga between Israel Adesanya & Alex Pereira is set to explode on April 9th for the UFC 287 event in Miami.

Inside Israel Adesanya's INTENSE Training Camp for Alex Pereira Rematch at UFC 287

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzKn7ggIChA

Just posted from his training camp from what looks like a covert ops suit.
So I imagine he is taking this match very seriously and it shouldn't disappoint on the buildup to the main event next month!

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March 22, 2023, 01:19:05 AM
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Here it is the next bout in this saga between Israel Adesanya & Alex Pereira is set to explode on April 9th for the UFC 287 event in Miami.

Inside Israel Adesanya's INTENSE Training Camp for Alex Pereira Rematch at UFC 287

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzKn7ggIChA

Just posted from his training camp from what looks like a covert ops suit.
So I imagine he is taking this match very seriously and it shouldn't disappoint on the buildup to the main event next month!

Very intense indeed you can't blame him here, he is fighting for his career, Adesanya is doing great for many years as champion in UFC until the guy that beat him twice and even knock him out outside UFC came and did it again.
He can't go wrong this time he needs to be in the best shape of his career, a 4-0 loss to the same guy and twice in the UFC spells the end of his career, he knows he is heading to retirement and oblivion if he did not win this time.

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March 22, 2023, 05:53:36 AM
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It is tremendous work from stake.com . I really love how stake.com promotes crypto markets around the world in many different ways. Sector isn't important but we need successful crypto businesses like stake so we can show power of crypto to the world. Figures in sports are perfect candidates as brand ambassadors. I think even better than artists. Because they work hard and write their successful stories professionally. Stake is becoming #1 in crypto gambling business.
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March 22, 2023, 09:13:13 AM
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@Pierre 2
Although everything you had said is your right as an opinion,
Adesanya did lose his title while being their ambassador so there is nothing really to be proud of in this agreement.
He use to mention them and show bets from the site in his freestylebender videos on his channel but since then, nothing.
It is sort of like with any celebrity that takes on a partnership role with any company:
They get paid to promote the company in this case the cryptocurrency casino but then after that they only did it for the money.
They are not dedicated to them in any shape or form once they get paid. ie: drake: money stopped, no more streams! He is using MGM to make bets now

Heard of Floyd Money Mayweather?
He shills 40 different brands so what? Floyd doesn't gives a rats ass about them, because as soon as the funds hit his bank account he says "xxxx, who da f#(k is that?!".

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March 22, 2023, 12:50:00 PM
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It is tremendous work from stake.com . I really love how stake.com promotes crypto markets around the world in many different ways. Sector isn't important but we need successful crypto businesses like stake so we can show power of crypto to the world. Figures in sports are perfect candidates as brand ambassadors. I think even better than artists. Because they work hard and write their successful stories professionally. Stake is becoming #1 in crypto gambling business.
Yes, and did you see how they supported Alexa Grasso? I mean, that is a risky move by them and yet they did it. Super underdog, there's a chance she won't win but Stake.com was so sure that she could and even gave out a promo of double the win up to $200 even at the odds of @7.40 if my memory serves me right.
That is a nice giveaway and I am part of those who reaped the rewards.  Cheesy I just pulled the courage to take the bet and it won.
They surely know who are the next stars and it is enough to make them one of the tops in the crypto gambling industry.

The next question: Who could be their next brand ambassador? Sounds exciting.
@Pierre 2
Although everything you had said is your right as an opinion,
Adesanya did lose his title while being their ambassador so there is nothing really to be proud of in this agreement.
He use to mention them and show bets from the site in his freestylebender videos on his channel but since then, nothing.
It is sort of like with any celebrity that takes on a partnership role with any company:
They get paid to promote the company in this case the cryptocurrency casino but then after that they only did it for the money.
They are not dedicated to them in any shape or form once they get paid. ie: drake: money stopped, no more streams! He is using MGM to make bets now

Heard of Floyd Money Mayweather?
He shills 40 different brands so what? Floyd doesn't gives a rats ass about them, because as soon as the funds hit his bank account he says "xxxx, who da f#(k is that?!".
I wish that would not be the case for their future brand ambassadors, especially Grasso. That lady is a good face for them.  Cheesy

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March 22, 2023, 08:52:54 PM
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@Pierre 2
Although everything you had said is your right as an opinion,
Adesanya did lose his title while being their ambassador so there is nothing really to be proud of in this agreement.
He use to mention them and show bets from the site in his freestylebender videos on his channel but since then, nothing.
It is sort of like with any celebrity that takes on a partnership role with any company:
They get paid to promote the company in this case the cryptocurrency casino but then after that they only did it for the money.
They are not dedicated to them in any shape or form once they get paid. ie: drake: money stopped, no more streams! He is using MGM to make bets now

Heard of Floyd Money Mayweather?
He shills 40 different brands so what? Floyd doesn't gives a rats ass about them, because as soon as the funds hit his bank account he says "xxxx, who da f#(k is that?!".
Sad but true. You'd rarely find athlete sponsors who dedicate a good amount of their time and effort into looking as if they really care about the product they are advertising. These sponsors should know this by now. They'd only ever follow what the contract entails and would rarely go above and beyond it since there's no incentive in giving a damn about the sponsor, other than I don't know, under the table favors in the future, but that is a rare case. Adesanya, Mayweather, Mcgregor, every A-list athlete wouldn't give a fuck about their sponsors beyond the conventional shoutouts and product endorsements, and I think that's fine, i don't wanna root for a sell-out after all.

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March 23, 2023, 06:18:52 AM
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@Pierre 2
Although everything you had said is your right as an opinion,
Adesanya did lose his title while being their ambassador so there is nothing really to be proud of in this agreement.
He use to mention them and show bets from the site in his freestylebender videos on his channel but since then, nothing.
It is sort of like with any celebrity that takes on a partnership role with any company:
They get paid to promote the company in this case the cryptocurrency casino but then after that they only did it for the money.
They are not dedicated to them in any shape or form once they get paid. ie: drake: money stopped, no more streams! He is using MGM to make bets now

Heard of Floyd Money Mayweather?
He shills 40 different brands so what? Floyd doesn't gives a rats ass about them, because as soon as the funds hit his bank account he says "xxxx, who da f#(k is that?!".
Sad but true. You'd rarely find athlete sponsors who dedicate a good amount of their time and effort into looking as if they really care about the product they are advertising. These sponsors should know this by now. They'd only ever follow what the contract entails and would rarely go above and beyond it since there's no incentive in giving a damn about the sponsor, other than I don't know, under the table favors in the future, but that is a rare case. Adesanya, Mayweather, Mcgregor, every A-list athlete wouldn't give a fuck about their sponsors beyond the conventional shoutouts and product endorsements, and I think that's fine, i don't wanna root for a sell-out after all.
All the reason why they would just sponsor the young buds who have a better chance to advertise them and give a damn instead of the veterans or the popular ones who would not even dare say the brand name on the television. Everything for them should be paid, even a single thing that will come out of their mouth. A walking advertisement as they call it.
Loyalty is such a hard thing to find even if you are already paying, I mean, even big businesses with reputable names are not being heard from them.
As long as they wear it, or stick that name on their T-shirt then that's it. Sometimes, I see them not even trying to wear the shirt after the fight although they are already paid.
There should be a clause of a money-back guarantee if they won't follow the rules.

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March 23, 2023, 06:31:18 AM
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@Pierre 2
Although everything you had said is your right as an opinion,
Adesanya did lose his title while being their ambassador so there is nothing really to be proud of in this agreement.
He use to mention them and show bets from the site in his freestylebender videos on his channel but since then, nothing.
It is sort of like with any celebrity that takes on a partnership role with any company:
They get paid to promote the company in this case the cryptocurrency casino but then after that they only did it for the money.
They are not dedicated to them in any shape or form once they get paid. ie: drake: money stopped, no more streams! He is using MGM to make bets now

Heard of Floyd Money Mayweather?
He shills 40 different brands so what? Floyd doesn't gives a rats ass about them, because as soon as the funds hit his bank account he says "xxxx, who da f#(k is that?!".
Sad but true. You'd rarely find athlete sponsors who dedicate a good amount of their time and effort into looking as if they really care about the product they are advertising. These sponsors should know this by now. They'd only ever follow what the contract entails and would rarely go above and beyond it since there's no incentive in giving a damn about the sponsor, other than I don't know, under the table favors in the future, but that is a rare case. Adesanya, Mayweather, Mcgregor, every A-list athlete wouldn't give a fuck about their sponsors beyond the conventional shoutouts and product endorsements, and I think that's fine, i don't wanna root for a sell-out after all.


All the reason why they would just sponsor the young buds who have a better chance to advertise them and give a damn instead of the veterans or the popular ones who would not even dare say the brand name on the television. Everything for them should be paid, even a single thing that will come out of their mouth. A walking advertisement as they call it.
Loyalty is such a hard thing to find even if you are already paying, I mean, even big businesses with reputable names are not being heard from them.
As long as they wear it, or stick that name on their T-shirt then that's it. Sometimes, I see them not even trying to wear the shirt after the fight although they are already paid.
There should be a clause of a money-back guarantee if they won't follow the rules.

A lot of people will tell you that it is all about the amount of potential customers that this fighter are drawing to their "brand".... so they will not promote a lesser known fighter, because he has a smaller following.

I on the other hand says.... Why sponsor a well known fighter with say a $50 000 000 contract, if you can sponsor 10 lesser known fighters for the same amount. A lot of these casino owners are doing it for brag rights.... to show how "big" they are... and that they can pay millions to sponsor huge celebrities.  Roll Eyes

Stake.com also sponsor Watford and Everton..... and they are nowhere on the soccer rankings.  Roll Eyes

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March 23, 2023, 07:02:19 PM
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It is tremendous work from stake.com . I really love how stake.com promotes crypto markets around the world in many different ways. Sector isn't important but we need successful crypto businesses like stake so we can show power of crypto to the world. Figures in sports are perfect candidates as brand ambassadors. I think even better than artists. Because they work hard and write their successful stories professionally. Stake is becoming #1 in crypto gambling business.
Yes, and did you see how they supported Alexa Grasso? I mean, that is a risky move by them and yet they did it. Super underdog, there's a chance she won't win but Stake.com was so sure that she could and even gave out a promo of double the win up to $200 even at the odds of @7.40 if my memory serves me right.
That is a nice giveaway and I am part of those who reaped the rewards.  Cheesy I just pulled the courage to take the bet and it won.
They surely know who are the next stars and it is enough to make them one of the tops in the crypto gambling industry.
Isn't that great? I mean they are giving anyone a chance here and not only those who are super stars already. Despite of being an underdog, alexa must still be one of those popular fighters so stake still gains a good exposure and maybe the pay for her is not big as those great fighters. That is one of the reason I see here on why they go for her and not on the much better ones but hey alexa did win so she is also improving now.

Promotions like this might give her an encouragement to push more harder and show what she got. Never saw alexa anymore in stake but there are now new faces on their homepage. I guess its contract have now ended?
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March 23, 2023, 11:48:27 PM
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@Pierre 2
Although everything you had said is your right as an opinion,
Adesanya did lose his title while being their ambassador so there is nothing really to be proud of in this agreement.
He use to mention them and show bets from the site in his freestylebender videos on his channel but since then, nothing.
It is sort of like with any celebrity that takes on a partnership role with any company:
They get paid to promote the company in this case the cryptocurrency casino but then after that they only did it for the money.
They are not dedicated to them in any shape or form once they get paid. ie: drake: money stopped, no more streams! He is using MGM to make bets now

Heard of Floyd Money Mayweather?
He shills 40 different brands so what? Floyd doesn't gives a rats ass about them, because as soon as the funds hit his bank account he says "xxxx, who da f#(k is that?!".

I'm not a marketing expert and I'm not even in that marketing area, but I can't understand why a company would sponsor a fighter that already has many other companies sponsoring him? what time and space does this fighter have to manage many companies? let's imagine that a casino sponsors a fighter who already has 20 other companies sponsoring him, that fighter won't even be able to put the logo of all the companies that sponsor him on his fighting clothes. this fighter will not be able to constantly make videos of all the companies that sponsor him and post them on his social media

everything the fighter will be doing: making a lot of money without giving back to sponsors, the guys who sponsor him won't be getting any advantage in sponsoring him, so I wonder: do companies have some form of tracking that allows them to know if they are having customers when they sponsor a fighter? as I have never watched a complete fight, I always see a summary of the fights, so I don't know if when the fighters are fighting if they show all their sponsors in the transmission of the fight, because if they don't show then I don't see any advantage in sponsoring these fighters who already have many sponsorships

companies need to proceed with great caution when it comes to sponsoring athletes, because I don't see many advantages in doing that, weeks ago I read in a news article that said that a very famous tennis player is going to retire and that there are many sponsorships that are going to withdraw the sponsorship, but I thought: what are these sponsors getting? because in the sneakers robe I don't see the logo of the companies

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March 26, 2023, 05:12:25 AM
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It is tremendous work from stake.com . I really love how stake.com promotes crypto markets around the world in many different ways. Sector isn't important but we need successful crypto businesses like stake so we can show power of crypto to the world. Figures in sports are perfect candidates as brand ambassadors. I think even better than artists. Because they work hard and write their successful stories professionally. Stake is becoming #1 in crypto gambling business.
Yes, and did you see how they supported Alexa Grasso? I mean, that is a risky move by them and yet they did it. Super underdog, there's a chance she won't win but Stake.com was so sure that she could and even gave out a promo of double the win up to $200 even at the odds of @7.40 if my memory serves me right.
That is a nice giveaway and I am part of those who reaped the rewards.  Cheesy I just pulled the courage to take the bet and it won.
They surely know who are the next stars and it is enough to make them one of the tops in the crypto gambling industry.
Isn't that great? I mean they are giving anyone a chance here and not only those who are super stars already. Despite of being an underdog, alexa must still be one of those popular fighters so stake still gains a good exposure and maybe the pay for her is not big as those great fighters. That is one of the reason I see here on why they go for her and not on the much better ones but hey alexa did win so she is also improving now.

Promotions like this might give her an encouragement to push more harder and show what she got. Never saw alexa anymore in stake but there are now new faces on their homepage. I guess its contract have now ended?
She is still there and so is Adesanya.

You are right though, payments for unpopular faces will be cheaper but now I think there should be an increase on whatever amount they are paying her since she is a champion now.
But credit to Stake.com for picking the right cherry and they are not wrong, sweet result. That must be some big risk they took there as one defeat could jeopardize their investment for her.

companies need to proceed with great caution when it comes to sponsoring athletes, because I don't see many advantages in doing that, weeks ago I read in a news article that said that a very famous tennis player is going to retire and that there are many sponsorships that are going to withdraw the sponsorship, but I thought: what are these sponsors getting? because in the sneakers robe I don't see the logo of the companies
Maybe at some events outside that we rarely see. I am guessing whenever they are having a press conference, these sponsors' brands are either in their background or somewhere that could be seen by the camera.
Take Gatorade for example, whenever NBA players are interviewed after the game, a bottle of G is near their microphone.

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March 27, 2023, 12:50:44 PM
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Here's a peek at what Israel Adesanya does for a day before his fight against Alex Pereira at UFC 287.
Israel Adesanya: Day in the Life (UFC 287 Fight Camp)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kThKSmioAlA



Israel Adesanya: "The early bird catches the snake."
Well, Pereira is not a worm so that suits the definition. That just means he will need to work harder to get his title back because this ain't going to be easy.
I do like how they are having fun in the gym with their colleagues using their skills as the basis on which the team will be punished. Combining hard work with fun is a good way to make it less stressful.

"The Hunter" shirt does match what he is now and we all know who will be hunted.  Cheesy

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March 31, 2023, 11:25:59 PM
Last edit: April 01, 2023, 01:01:40 AM by rdbase
 #234

Having watched the championship belt switching hands during that epic match for a third time in the past few days, I have a feeling that Israel Adesanya will regain his title in this rematch next weekend on April 8th in Miami.
He has no doubt watched the fight tape over, over and over again to see where it all went wrong.
As with the very first round, he most certainly rocked Pereira with two punches to his jaw and the bell did save him.
I think he will attack and not let up this time and early on in the bout so to lay claim to his championship belt once more.

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April 01, 2023, 02:46:44 AM
 #235

^Yeah, it could've been over so early on that last fight.

Freestylebender posted three days ago of episode 2 of how insane Adesanya's training camp is. Just watching it already gives me goosebumps. Both players are working harder to give us an entertaining fight and I am definitely sure they won't let us down. I have high confidence that there will be a knockout.
Israel Adesanya is Ready for Revenge Against Alex Pereira at UFC 287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCuAADHwKG8

Do you have a different kind of mindset going into this fight?
Adesanya: "Yeah I do actually, it's kind of poetic in a way like this is my last shot. I am going to give all that I've got."

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April 01, 2023, 04:05:12 AM
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Having watched the championship belt switching hands during that epic match for a third time in the past few days, I have a feeling that Israel Adesanya will regain his title in this rematch next weekend on April 8th in Miami.
He has no doubt watched the fight tape over, over and over again to see where it all went wrong.
As with the very first round, he most certainly rocked Pereira with two punches to his jaw and the bell did save him.
I think he will attack and not let up this time and early on in the bout so to lay claim to his championship belt once more.

There's a point that I agree but the biggest question is 3 in a row and two successive knock out is not good you cannot just shrug it off just like that, this is a big test of character for Adesanya, Asi is an excellent tactician but one error is what Alex needs to beat him, he got all the preparation in their match I don't know what more Adi needs to beat Pereira but a four loss spells disaster for Adi's great career.
I hope this time Adi gets the right formula and spots Alex's weak spot, I want to see Adi getting back on Alex and so a fifth fight.

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April 03, 2023, 11:52:10 PM
 #237

5 more days before the fight that we are so excited about.

Israel Adesanya Arrives in Miami Florida for the Biggest Fight of His Career
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuJtBoOY1dk
Credits to: FreestyleBender



Yes, he is in Miami Florida now and it means the fight is getting near and I bet there's higher energy from the UFC fans.
The training will be more intense as said by CKB Coach Mike Angove.
Well, after watching the clip, it can be noticed how intense the work will be but it will be all worth it once Adesanya wins this fight and claim his title back.
They are the challenger so there's no reason to be lazy. Hard work had been one of his weapons and I want to see him standing firm if this fight will last until the final round.

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April 04, 2023, 12:58:29 PM
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^^
Awesome video of the touchdown in Miami for Adesanya getting ready for the fight for his reputation and his title.
Because if he doesn't win this one, then I would imagine this would the end for Israel trying to beat this boogey man who has haunted him from kickboxing into his MMA career.
Here is a great clip from JRE along with Steve-O (remember him from the early 2000's and his crazy stunts) talking about Adesanya and what his legend means to the UFC if he doesn't beat the champion this time around to regain his title:

Joe Rogan Discusses the Story of Israel Adesanya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcyKKuqwsH8

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April 06, 2023, 07:02:09 AM
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5 more days before the fight that we are so excited about.

Israel Adesanya Arrives in Miami Florida for the Biggest Fight of His Career
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuJtBoOY1dk
Credits to: FreestyleBender



Yes, he is in Miami Florida now and it means the fight is getting near and I bet there's higher energy from the UFC fans.
The training will be more intense as said by CKB Coach Mike Angove.
Well, after watching the clip, it can be noticed how intense the work will be but it will be all worth it once Adesanya wins this fight and claim his title back.
They are the challenger so there's no reason to be lazy. Hard work had been one of his weapons and I want to see him standing firm if this fight will last until the final round.


Jason Momoa looks fat while sitting but he is a tall guy than Izzy, but pretty much this fight is a much-awaited one on Israel Adesanya's career, and looking at Israel Adesanya he looks more positive he doesn't really care if he does have a belt and if he doesn't have it, this is because many are still saying that he is still the champ, but that doesn't really cross the line for him of thinking that Alex Pereira win was just a fluke, he surely acknowledge it as a legitimate win, so for me if Israel Adesanya lose this fight it is really over for him,

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Awesome video of the touchdown in Miami for Adesanya getting ready for the fight for his reputation and his title.
Because if he doesn't win this one, then I would imagine this would the end for Israel trying to beat this boogey man who has haunted him from kickboxing into his MMA career.
Here is a great clip from JRE along with Steve-O (remember him from the early 2000's and his crazy stunts) talking about Adesanya and what his legend means to the UFC if he doesn't beat the champion this time around to regain his title:

Joe Rogan Discusses the Story of Israel Adesanya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcyKKuqwsH8

I will always miss Jason Acuña also known as Wee Man in the Jackass  series with Bam Margara, but anyway I really like what they are talking about here Joe Roegan and Steve-O said that it was great how Israel Adesanya dealt with his loss with a fur coat in the press conference that is why many really like this guy he is just cool on what is happening, and yeah talking about bringing back Steve Mazzagatti the referee for their fight back, but yeah Israel Adesanya is really a likable guy and even if he lost their 1st match many still trust him to get back up, while Alex Pereira even though he got this fight so fast, there still a lot of gap to be filled regarding him in the MMA,

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Although everything you had said is your right as an opinion,
Adesanya did lose his title while being their ambassador so there is nothing really to be proud of in this agreement.
He use to mention them and show bets from the site in his freestylebender videos on his channel but since then, nothing.
It is sort of like with any celebrity that takes on a partnership role with any company:
They get paid to promote the company in this case the cryptocurrency casino but then after that they only did it for the money.
They are not dedicated to them in any shape or form once they get paid. ie: drake: money stopped, no more streams! He is using MGM to make bets now

Heard of Floyd Money Mayweather?
He shills 40 different brands so what? Floyd doesn't gives a rats ass about them, because as soon as the funds hit his bank account he says "xxxx, who da f#(k is that?!".
Sad but true. You'd rarely find athlete sponsors who dedicate a good amount of their time and effort into looking as if they really care about the product they are advertising. These sponsors should know this by now. They'd only ever follow what the contract entails and would rarely go above and beyond it since there's no incentive in giving a damn about the sponsor, other than I don't know, under the table favors in the future, but that is a rare case. Adesanya, Mayweather, Mcgregor, every A-list athlete wouldn't give a fuck about their sponsors beyond the conventional shoutouts and product endorsements, and I think that's fine, i don't wanna root for a sell-out after all.
Money is key here, and it's just a mutual agreement in which you are using your fame and reputation (celebrity) to promote a brand for money. This is purely a contractual agreement that is what gives celebrities the most money they have. And this could end in either mutual agreement or otherwise depending on the discretion of either or both parties.

However in most cases, when popularity dwindles, the company might change their mind, especially when winners are becoming losers or less famous. And often at times, it might be that they just one to try another famous person which is understandable.

In other words, both parties are doing it for the money.

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