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February 03, 2021, 01:23:41 AM
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That's the Ben Askren, if my knowledge serves, it is against Masvidal. I don't know about Askren specializing in wrestling being a problem, in my opinion it is not a problem, Askren got a 19-2 record to back up his reputation although the Masvidal's knee kick really did him good. No matter what we are hoping for, people that support Jake Paul will buy those tickets and other people who wants to watch it will always buy one, one thing that I hope is that it is for charity.
He's definitely known for his wrestling more than his striking. Ben is a very good wrestler in fact, and that's why hes been in with the big names, such as the mentioned Masvidal. The thing is, he's never been known for his boxing...well that's not entirely true, hes been criticized before for being a one dimensional fighter, and relying on his wrestling. Although, I'm not sure how one can criticize that as wrestling is in fact quite versatile, and seems to be the bane of some of the greatest fighters we've seen in the UFC. Its why I think Khabib has been so successful, other than being a fantastic wrestler himself, some of his opponents were known for their striking ability, and not their wrestling.

However, in this fight it comes down to striking. Ben we know didn't have the best striking in the MMA scene, but that doesn't mean hes going to be bad when compared with Jake. Looking at Jake he has decent technique, but that will go out of the window once hes gets pressured by Ben, because Ben certainly isn't going to be afraid of getting tagged. This pressure is what I think will cause Jake the most problems, since he hasn't really been training long enough to solidify that muscle memory which comes from years, and years of practice, especially when your getting hit back.

In all of his fights, he hasn't been hit back, so we really don't know what to expect once he does. For anyone thinking that Ben simply won't land, I personally think they are overlooking Ben. Ben will catch Jake, and he will be a test despite his apparent lack of ability striking.

For the sake of MMA saving face, I'm really hoping that Ben puts Jake away early in the fight. However, Jake likely won't just disappear, he'll just say he lost to a professional fighter. Its a win, win for Jake. Whereas, all Ben benefits from this is the money involved, which is likely swayed heavily in Jake's favour, since a few other fighters like Bisping were also approached, and made counter offers.
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February 04, 2021, 10:44:53 PM
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This is already a lost cause for Ben Askren, he may win the match but at the end of the day, he won against a Youtuber, whereas Jake can just simply say he was bodied by a professional fighter in case he loses. A much more humiliating defeat will ensue if Askren loses to Jake which I hope don't happen for MMA's sake. Only thing Askren is going to get back from this would be the money, other than that Jake will be getting the fame.

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February 05, 2021, 12:57:00 PM
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This is already a lost cause for Ben Askren, he may win the match but at the end of the day, he won against a Youtuber, whereas Jake can just simply say he was bodied by a professional fighter in case he loses. A much more humiliating defeat will ensue if Askren loses to Jake which I hope don't happen for MMA's sake. Only thing Askren is going to get back from this would be the money, other than that Jake will be getting the fame.

He can't make that excuse because he himself is a professional boxer, FYI, his record is 2-0, all win by KO>

source : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Paul


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February 05, 2021, 01:13:54 PM
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He can't make that excuse because he himself is a professional boxer, FYI, his record is 2-0, all win by KO>

Although, technically true his record, and status doesn't really tell the whole story. Yeah, he is a professional boxer, and yeah he does have a 2-0 record all of which ended in TKO/KO. However, they were not against traditional professional boxers, in fact I believe it was difficult to find a commissioning body to authorize them for professional boxing (no head guards) not all states that were approached were willing to do so. Plus, he didn't fight other professional boxers really, he fought in a "white collar" type event in which the opponents were not professional boxers previously to this event. Plus, its highly likely that the opponents that he has faced will never have a professional boxing match ever again, as this was a one off event.

So, although the MMA world is probably sweating it right now, Jake does have a reasonable excuse, and any outcome isn't going to overly damage his reputation. If he gets brutally knocked out, and doesn't land a glove then that might make him become a "meme", but its not really going to effect his chances of progressing further into boxing if he wanted too.
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February 05, 2021, 01:20:11 PM
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He can't make that excuse because he himself is a professional boxer, FYI, his record is 2-0, all win by KO>

Although, technically true his record, and status doesn't really tell the whole story. Yeah, he is a professional boxer, and yeah he does have a 2-0 record all of which ended in TKO/KO. However, they were not against traditional professional boxers, in fact I believe it was difficult to find a commissioning body to authorize them for professional boxing (no head guards) not all states that were approached were willing to do so. Plus, he didn't fight other professional boxers really, he fought in a "white collar" type event in which the opponents were not professional boxers previously to this event. Plus, its highly likely that the opponents that he has faced will never have a professional boxing match ever again, as this was a one off event.

So, although the MMA world is probably sweating it right now, Jake does have a reasonable excuse, and any outcome isn't going to overly damage his reputation. If he gets brutally knocked out, and doesn't land a glove then that might make him become a "meme", but its not really going to effect his chances of progressing further into boxing if he wanted too.


I definitely understands it, I am not even aware at first that Jake Paul was a professional boxer, I thought the fight against Nate Robinson was a pure exhibition game but when I read some news about the fight, it was written there that it was Jake Pau's 2nd win as a professional boxer, so I have already put that in my mind that he really is a professional.

So for the record, for those who have not followed Jake Paul's career.

1st fight was against a youtubeer
2nd fight was against a former NBA player.

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February 08, 2021, 11:44:32 PM
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So, although the MMA world is probably sweating it right now, Jake does have a reasonable excuse, and any outcome isn't going to overly damage his reputation. If he gets brutally knocked out, and doesn't land a glove then that might make him become a "meme", but its not really going to effect his chances of progressing further into boxing if he wanted too.
I have seen Jake Paul scratching as i cannot call them professional boxers even though the record books shows that, the boxing commission would allow any journeyman to compete as a boxer if you are new to the sport and he won both of his bouts by knockout which means he has power in his hands, Ben Askren is never known to be a hard puncher nor a technical stand up fighter and if Jake could land a clean punch the tide will turn against Askren.
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February 08, 2021, 11:48:55 PM
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So it looks like this fight is going to happen before the Mayweather fight now?  I feel like the ground is crumbling beneath these weird 'celebrity' matches.  I sure hope we get to see some actual exciting matchups before this fad disappears into nonexistence.  I feel like Jose Canseco's pathetic dive knockout might have signaled the peak of this nonsense, but I sure hope we see some big 200+pounder get a crack at Mayweather before all is said and done.

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February 09, 2021, 11:53:17 PM
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Wait what?! The Ben Askren that was on the receiving end of the fastest KO in the UFC history? An MMA fighter who specializes in wrestling is competing in a fist fight Grin Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.

Unfortunately these people wants to capitalize their YouTube and sports popularity and make money from it. So i'd rather not buy into this exhibition fights started by them. Not only it will boost their popularity but also gain profits. I'd rather see great fighters such as May-Pac 2 than this clown show that maybe scripted.

 thats the trend these days. because they cant generate gate income, what these promoters are hoping for is to get viewers from the respective followers of these fighters and hoping that they will buy PPVs, . at least earn a living while still in pandemic. maybe this trend will change once we get back to normal and people can watch again in the arena. til then, these promoters will find a way how to attract boxing fans to sell the fight.

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February 10, 2021, 01:05:36 AM
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Wait what?! The Ben Askren that was on the receiving end of the fastest KO in the UFC history? An MMA fighter who specializes in wrestling is competing in a fist fight Grin Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.

Unfortunately these people wants to capitalize their YouTube and sports popularity and make money from it. So i'd rather not buy into this exhibition fights started by them. Not only it will boost their popularity but also gain profits. I'd rather see great fighters such as May-Pac 2 than this clown show that maybe scripted.

 thats the trend these days. because they cant generate gate income, what these promoters are hoping for is to get viewers from the respective followers of these fighters and hoping that they will buy PPVs, . at least earn a living while still in pandemic. maybe this trend will change once we get back to normal and people can watch again in the arena. til then, these promoters will find a way how to attract boxing fans to sell the fight.

Crorrect. Promoters will dwell to whatever forms of venue to accumulate money. They'll seen that fans due to boresome from this current pandemic might be interested with such types of fights.

Better not to buy this as the honor of this sports already at risk, there are real boxers who needs support and they spend time to train and to showcase their skills and talents.

Let them harvest the fruit of thier works.

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February 10, 2021, 10:22:04 PM
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Wait what?! The Ben Askren that was on the receiving end of the fastest KO in the UFC history? An MMA fighter who specializes in wrestling is competing in a fist fight Grin Is this fight for charity? If yes, I'll support it. If not, I hope nobody buys tickets/PPVs.

Unfortunately these people wants to capitalize their YouTube and sports popularity and make money from it. So i'd rather not buy into this exhibition fights started by them. Not only it will boost their popularity but also gain profits. I'd rather see great fighters such as May-Pac 2 than this clown show that maybe scripted.

 thats the trend these days. because they cant generate gate income, what these promoters are hoping for is to get viewers from the respective followers of these fighters and hoping that they will buy PPVs, . at least earn a living while still in pandemic. maybe this trend will change once we get back to normal and people can watch again in the arena. til then, these promoters will find a way how to attract boxing fans to sell the fight.

Crorrect. Promoters will dwell to whatever forms of venue to accumulate money. They'll seen that fans due to boresome from this current pandemic might be interested with such types of fights.

Better not to buy this as the honor of this sports already at risk, there are real boxers who needs support and they spend time to train and to showcase their skills and talents.

Let them harvest the fruit of thier works.


I'm okay with supporting this but not on professional boxers fighting on an exhibition match, or a retired and popular boxer fighting a youtuber. Both of these are not popular in the sports of boxing, they will have a show and asking us to support by buying the PPV, now we have to decide to support it or not.

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February 10, 2021, 10:47:04 PM
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I'm okay with supporting this but not on professional boxers fighting on an exhibition match, or a retired and popular boxer fighting a youtuber. Both of these are not popular in the sports of boxing, they will have a show and asking us to support by buying the PPV, now we have to decide to support it or not.

I remember before during the height of this pandemic crisis, everyone was asking for new sports to watch as there were no live ones to watch out for.
Right now, promoters are capitalizing on the popularity of the "boxers" to sell their fight. So those fans who want something to watch, now you have one.  Tongue
But I believe, this will change soon. We are already seeing other sports coming to life again. It will be slow, but at least we are already starting...
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Ben has been putting out some questionable sparring footage, but it seems to me that this might be an attempt to convince people hes worse than he actually is. If you look at his MMA footage, then you'll clearly see that hes not a recognized striker, however he's definitely throwing better than his recent footage shows.

So it looks like this fight is going to happen before the Mayweather fight now?  I feel like the ground is crumbling beneath these weird 'celebrity' matches.  I sure hope we get to see some actual exciting matchups before this fad disappears into nonexistence.  I feel like Jose Canseco's pathetic dive knockout might have signaled the peak of this nonsense, but I sure hope we see some big 200+pounder get a crack at Mayweather before all is said and done.
Yeah, Logan Paul I believe was on record stating that there's behind the scenes "business" that needs addressing. So, I'm not actually sure what this could mean. I think there's been speculation that they are waiting for the result of Jake Paul vs Ben, and Mayweather might fancy Jake instead if he is to perform well as it would likely bring in more money.

I don't mind the white collar boxing, as its pretty good for the sport in general. However, I don't like how frequent it seems to be getting. There's also the worlds strongest men boxing event going on later in the year, which I'm particularly excited about, but it'll likely be a snooze fest, watching two big men tire quickly.
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A lost cause for Mr. Ben right here, whatever people may tell or say about Jake Paul, he's just a YouTuber, and if in the case he wins against Askren, Ben's reputation among the people and the media will be utterly devastated. Whereas if he wins there's not much to say since the guy is a YouTuber. Still, I'd like to see how this fight will pan out despite me not being a fan of both personalities.
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A lost cause for Mr. Ben right here, whatever people may tell or say about Jake Paul, he's just a YouTuber, and if in the case he wins against Askren, Ben's reputation among the people and the media will be utterly devastated. Whereas if he wins there's not much to say since the guy is a YouTuber. Still, I'd like to see how this fight will pan out despite me not being a fan of both personalities.

tbh, i dont think many boxing fans will buy the PPV of this match. most of them will just wait for the free live streaming over the net. this fight should be easy for askren. and yes, if he will defeated by Jake Paul, dont think he has good future in boxing. but is this match going to push thru no matter how much is their possible income or will it just be like the mayweather-logan paul canceled fight?

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February 17, 2021, 10:52:28 PM
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Oh please, give me a break... I see that youtuber Jake Paul is predicting he will knock out Ben Askren quickly in boxing match Smiley
I am not a fan of Ben Askren at all and  I didn't like all his trash talk in UFC, but he was still a champ in Bellator and Jake Paul is not caliber like Masvidal to knock anyone out after only few boxing matches in his life, but I mean anything can happen if fight is fixed or judges decide like in last Tyson fight. Anyone remembers that?

This is Jake Paul reading poem to Floyd Mayweather:
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February 17, 2021, 11:18:11 PM
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Oh please, give me a break... I see that youtuber Jake Paul is predicting he will knock out Ben Askren quickly in boxing match Smiley
I am not a fan of Ben Askren at all and  I didn't like all his trash talk in UFC, but he was still a champ in Bellator and Jake Paul is not caliber like Masvidal to knock anyone out after only few boxing matches in his life, but I mean anything can happen if fight is fixed or judges decide like in last Tyson fight. Anyone remembers that?

This is Jake Paul reading poem to Floyd Mayweather:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZB7_lcWjz4

UFC is different from boxing, Jake Paul had proven that he can knock out anyone with his 2 wins by KO.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383

He is now a pro already and I guess he is not joking just to sell the fight, and checking on the odds, he is the favorites to win in this fight.

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February 17, 2021, 11:27:30 PM
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A lost cause for Mr. Ben right here, whatever people may tell or say about Jake Paul, he's just a YouTuber, and if in the case he wins against Askren, Ben's reputation among the people and the media will be utterly devastated. Whereas if he wins there's not much to say since the guy is a YouTuber. Still, I'd like to see how this fight will pan out despite me not being a fan of both personalities.

We can't only rely on how it was said or analyze though youtube reviews or something else. What's important is the reality of the game on how it's going to be the outcome when Mr. Ben and Jake Paul would perform on their match. Let's see how they'll able to throw punches in order to beat each other, and it's going to be a big fight for both of them. I'm not looking for the hype right now, need to see some heavy strikes and be entertained with their moves.

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February 17, 2021, 11:47:12 PM
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UFC is different from boxing, Jake Paul had proven that he can knock out anyone with his 2 wins by KO.
What do you mean with "knock out anyone"?
Maybe 36 years old Nate Robinson who had one fight in his entire life, not counting fighting in school 20 years ago.
Or maybe young 24 year old Ali Eson Gib with also had single fight in his life against Jake.
This circus is freely available on youtube for everyone to see.

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February 18, 2021, 12:03:59 AM
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I agree with Ben Askren not being known for his striking/boxing knockout skills. He isn't just an explosive fighter.

However, he is known for his wrestling and that includes technical knowledge that might resonate when it comes to tie-ups.

I know many of us view it as an Olympian vs. Youtuber fight and chances are Ben Askren might get knocked out on this one. This is good money-making fight though.
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Dana White wants to bet 1 million dollars on Ben Askren win in fight against Jake Paul, and he said it in public on Hotboxin’ with Mike Tyson podcast, and I would agree with him.
Listen 20-ish minute long interesting interview:
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