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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
July 22, 2022, 12:31:52 PM
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Quote from: FP91G on July 21, 2022, 06:04:27 PM
Quote from: JayDDee on July 20, 2022, 07:00:00 PM
No miners support them yet.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-gpu-drivers-do-not-support-mining
This is not a problem for developers. They need video cards for testing and new miners will appear in a few months. They may not have time to mine Ethereum, and there may be good competition for miners for other coins. Intel also benefits from this.
The more the better in terms of price competition from which the end consumer is the winner.Even if Intel GPU-s are not as good as predicted,the fact that they will hit the market will make AMD and Nvidia give up some of their market share to Intel.They will want it back so they will start with price drops fighting Intel and we all will be happy when they do.This is a historic moment for the GPU market and can't wait to have a third player in the market,if it were 4 or more it would be even better.The 16 GB cards as top level from Intel should also be good for mining and with a bit of fine-tuning they should give us like near 60-65 Mhsh for like 135-150 Watt.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
July 22, 2022, 05:00:00 PM
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It is clear that Intel chose not the best time to release video cards. If they do not make a huge effort to compete in the mining market, then their video chips will probably be used for mobile devices and laptops.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 02, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
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Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate
I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)
ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W
He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 02, 2022, 12:56:47 PM
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Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate
I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)
ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W
He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...
https://t.me/koliamainer/8315
Pretty sure Nanominer works on Intel gpus.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 03, 2022, 03:54:05 PM
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Quote from: miner29 on November 02, 2022, 12:56:47 PM
Pretty sure Nanominer works on Intel gpus.
I haven't tested, but my 5600 xt is mining ethereum forks with 38-42 megahash hashrate and consumption of 82-95 watts respectively depending on memory and overclocking. These graphics cards can be bought for $200 in good condition. Therefore, for Ethereum forks, it is better not to buy new video cards.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 05, 2022, 08:00:53 AM
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For having an idea how the ARC A750 performs have a look at Son of aTech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dfoG9x2CSg
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 05, 2022, 08:58:52 AM
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Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate
I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)
ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W
He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...
https://t.me/koliamainer/8315
Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 09, 2022, 09:01:39 AM
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Quote from: batsonxl on November 05, 2022, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate
I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)
ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W
He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...
Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.
For the first video cards, this is a very good indicator. Maybe the potential of these video cards will be revealed a little later, but today the purchase of any video cards for mining is unprofitable.
I remember the Intel Larrabee project in 2009 and 12 years later the company was able to make a decent GPU.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 09, 2022, 09:54:23 AM
#29
Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: batsonxl on November 05, 2022, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate
I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)
ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W
He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...
Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.
For the first video cards, this is a very good indicator. Maybe the potential of these video cards will be revealed a little later, but today the purchase of any video cards for mining is unprofitable.
I remember the Intel Larrabee project in 2009 and 12 years later the company was able to make a decent GPU.
My A750 arrive today - i will show you my results, i think i can beat it
. Did you tried BZminer?
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 09, 2022, 10:29:56 AM
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Quote from: sxemini on November 09, 2022, 09:54:23 AM
Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: batsonxl on November 05, 2022, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate
I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)
ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W
He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...
Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.
For the first video cards, this is a very good indicator. Maybe the potential of these video cards will be revealed a little later, but today the purchase of any video cards for mining is unprofitable.
I remember the Intel Larrabee project in 2009 and 12 years later the company was able to make a decent GPU.
My A750 arrive today - i will show you my results, i think i can beat it
. Did you tried BZminer?
It will be interesting for me to read information about your tests in mining. I don’t see the point in mining now, because of the very small profit. My graphics cards have paid for themselves several times over, so I will be waiting for new mining opportunities.
I don't sell or buy video cards now.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 09, 2022, 10:36:58 AM
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Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: sxemini on November 09, 2022, 09:54:23 AM
Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: batsonxl on November 05, 2022, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate
I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)
ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W
He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...
Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.
For the first video cards, this is a very good indicator. Maybe the potential of these video cards will be revealed a little later, but today the purchase of any video cards for mining is unprofitable.
I remember the Intel Larrabee project in 2009 and 12 years later the company was able to make a decent GPU.
My A750 arrive today - i will show you my results, i think i can beat it
. Did you tried BZminer?
It will be interesting for me to read information about your tests in mining. I don’t see the point in mining now, because of the very small profit. My graphics cards have paid for themselves several times over, so I will be waiting for new mining opportunities.
I don't sell or buy video cards now.
Sure i don´t buy new cards for all of my rigs at the moment. Only small things to play with it and to help to optimize BZminer a bit. The A750 should be good enough for 60mh, but we need more optimized miner. Most of my cards are polaris and p106, this cards paid of several times, but i sell it now slowly and next year i will begin to buy newer used cards.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 10, 2022, 09:35:33 AM
#32
Quote from: sxemini on November 09, 2022, 10:36:58 AM
Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: sxemini on November 09, 2022, 09:54:23 AM
Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2022, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: batsonxl on November 05, 2022, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: FP91G on November 02, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
Intel Arc A750 and its approximate hashrate
I looked at the info from a foreign friend (approximate consumption)
ETC 50 Mh/s - 190 W
48 Mh/s - 116 W
He did not test on other algos ... as I understand it ... there are no miners under Intel ...
Not bat at all for 1st gen intels cards.it is like rtx3060.looks good for me.
For the first video cards, this is a very good indicator. Maybe the potential of these video cards will be revealed a little later, but today the purchase of any video cards for mining is unprofitable.
I remember the Intel Larrabee project in 2009 and 12 years later the company was able to make a decent GPU.
My A750 arrive today - i will show you my results, i think i can beat it
. Did you tried BZminer?
It will be interesting for me to read information about your tests in mining. I don’t see the point in mining now, because of the very small profit. My graphics cards have paid for themselves several times over, so I will be waiting for new mining opportunities.
I don't sell or buy video cards now.
Sure i don´t buy new cards for all of my rigs at the moment. Only small things to play with it and to help to optimize BZminer a bit. The A750 should be good enough for 60mh, but we need more optimized miner. Most of my cards are polaris and p106, this cards paid of several times, but i sell it now slowly and next year i will begin to buy newer used cards.
In my city, a RX 480 8 GB costs about $80, if you buy more than 10 video cards, it's even cheaper. There are a lot of ads for the sale of old video cards. I am sure that this video card will give a profit if new coins appear, so I do not waste time selling.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 10, 2022, 10:25:48 AM
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Quote from: FP91G on November 10, 2022, 09:35:33 AM
In my city, a RX 480 8 GB costs about $80, if you buy more than 10 video cards, it's even cheaper. There are a lot of ads for the sale of old video cards. I am sure that this video card will give a profit if new coins appear, so I do not waste time selling.
Yeah maybe, but for me it is time to say good by to this good old ladies
. They do the job very well for years. When i get around $80 - amazing, this 40% of the purchase price 5 years ago (i bought only used cards at this time).
Intel ARC A750 reported hashrates with nanominer, i let it run for some days for poolside hashrate:
ETC:
51.8Mh/s @ 182w - GPU-Z show 172w - Powerlimit set to 190w
51Mh/s @ 150w - GPU-Z show 140w - Powerlimit set to 140w
49MH/s @ 130w - GPU-Z show 120w - Powerlimit set to 120w
measured including riser with Elmorlabs PMD.
At the moment the OC is very rudimentary, but i will test a bit more the next days to increase the efficiency.
BZminer support this GPU´s, but the hashrate is very low - ETC = around 25mh@190w ERG = around 44mh@130w
Also an important point, if the DAG is growing, the hashrate decrease - ETHW test gave me 2mh lower hashrates with the same settings. At the moment i don´t know why (TLB maybe like Nvidia Pascal or it is a miner problem)
I hope other miner developer keep an eye on this cards in the future. Teamredminer or lolminer can do a better job i am sure.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 12, 2022, 04:40:32 PM
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Quote from: sxemini on November 10, 2022, 10:25:48 AM
Also an important point, if the DAG is growing, the hashrate decrease - ETHW test gave me 2mh lower hashrates with the same settings. At the moment i don´t know why (TLB maybe like Nvidia Pascal or it is a miner problem)
The hashrate decreases, if the DAG is growing. This is also for P106-100 6GB Asus Mining Edition and P106-090 6GB Manli.
I think It is not a miner problem.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 13, 2022, 09:13:57 AM
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Quote from: sxemini on November 10, 2022, 10:25:48 AM
Quote from: FP91G on November 10, 2022, 09:35:33 AM
In my city, a RX 480 8 GB costs about $80, if you buy more than 10 video cards, it's even cheaper. There are a lot of ads for the sale of old video cards. I am sure that this video card will give a profit if new coins appear, so I do not waste time selling.
Yeah maybe, but for me it is time to say good by to this good old ladies
. They do the job very well for years. When i get around $80 - amazing, this 40% of the purchase price 5 years ago (i bought only used cards at this time).
Intel ARC A750 reported hashrates with nanominer, i let it run for some days for poolside hashrate:
ETC:
51.8Mh/s @ 182w - GPU-Z show 172w - Powerlimit set to 190w
51Mh/s @ 150w - GPU-Z show 140w - Powerlimit set to 140w
49MH/s @ 130w - GPU-Z show 120w - Powerlimit set to 120w
measured including riser with Elmorlabs PMD.
At the moment the OC is very rudimentary, but i will test a bit more the next days to increase the efficiency.
BZminer support this GPU´s, but the hashrate is very low - ETC = around 25mh@190w ERG = around 44mh@130w
Also an important point, if the DAG is growing, the hashrate decrease - ETHW test gave me 2mh lower hashrates with the same settings. At the moment i don´t know why (TLB maybe like Nvidia Pascal or it is a miner problem)
I hope other miner developer keep an eye on this cards in the future. Teamredminer or lolminer can do a better job i am sure.
Try the latest lolMiner 1.62
Added basic support for Intel Arc Desktop GPUs on the following algorithms: ETC, ETC+KAS (1), Kaspa, Flux, Ergo, Beam (2) & Equihash 144/5 (2). Fees are equal to Nvidia and AMD GPUs on the corresponding algorithms. Tested Intel OpenCL driver versions are 22.24.23453 and 22.32.23937.
https://github.com/Lolliedieb/lolMiner-releases/releases/tag/1.62
It may take more time to optimize mining software and drivers if intel wants to increase sales.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
November 28, 2022, 01:38:27 PM
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Quote from: igotek on November 12, 2022, 04:40:32 PM
Quote from: sxemini on November 10, 2022, 10:25:48 AM
Also an important point, if the DAG is growing, the hashrate decrease - ETHW test gave me 2mh lower hashrates with the same settings. At the moment i don´t know why (TLB maybe like Nvidia Pascal or it is a miner problem)
The hashrate decreases, if the DAG is growing. This is also for P106-100 6GB Asus Mining Edition and P106-090 6GB Manli.
I think It is not a miner problem.
As i said - a kind of TLB like the Pascal GPU´s (P106 is a Pascal GPU)
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Quote from: sxemini on November 28, 2022, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: igotek on November 12, 2022, 04:40:32 PM
Quote from: sxemini on November 10, 2022, 10:25:48 AM
Also an important point, if the DAG is growing, the hashrate decrease - ETHW test gave me 2mh lower hashrates with the same settings. At the moment i don´t know why (TLB maybe like Nvidia Pascal or it is a miner problem)
The hashrate decreases, if the DAG is growing. This is also for P106-100 6GB Asus Mining Edition and P106-090 6GB Manli.
I think It is not a miner problem.
As i said - a kind of TLB like the Pascal GPU´s (P106 is a Pascal GPU)
GTX 1060 or analogues for mining Nvidia P106-100 with a slightly higher hashrate today are unfortunately useless in mining even with free electricity. But these were the best video cards for 5-6 years and after so many years of mining they still continue to be adequate for modern games.
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January 20, 2023, 07:48:45 AM
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We have definitely not seen too many deals on Intel Arc A7 GPUs. These cards launched two months ago and have stayed at a relatively high price ever since. Intel launched two Arc A770 models, the 16GB variant launched at $349 in US and €419 in EU.
Nevertheless, it is good to see a 2-month-old GPU with such a discount, now 15% lower than MSRP at launch.
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-a770-16gb-gpu-drops-to-e355-in-germany-for-a-limited-time
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
January 23, 2023, 10:53:13 AM
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Quote from: FP91G on January 20, 2023, 07:48:45 AM
We have definitely not seen too many deals on Intel Arc A7 GPUs. These cards launched two months ago and have stayed at a relatively high price ever since. Intel launched two Arc A770 models, the 16GB variant launched at $349 in US and €419 in EU.
Has the driver situation changed though? I remember Gamer Nexus reviewed this card and says that the driver and feature still need more time to mature, and are not good enough for the general audience who don't want to troubleshoot if something went south.
I'd definitely give it a try if I can find it near my area, considering most Radeon and Nvidia are still way too expensive here. I'd rather buy their last gen.
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Re: Intel enters desktop dGPU market
January 25, 2023, 10:44:32 AM
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Quote from: joniboini on January 23, 2023, 10:53:13 AM
Quote from: FP91G on January 20, 2023, 07:48:45 AM
We have definitely not seen too many deals on Intel Arc A7 GPUs. These cards launched two months ago and have stayed at a relatively high price ever since. Intel launched two Arc A770 models, the 16GB variant launched at $349 in US and €419 in EU.
Has the driver situation changed though? I remember Gamer Nexus reviewed this card and says that the driver and feature still need more time to mature, and are not good enough for the general audience who don't want to troubleshoot if something went south.
I'd definitely give it a try if I can find it near my area, considering most Radeon and Nvidia are still way too expensive here. I'd rather buy their last gen.
Most miners prefer AMD and Nvidia, so miner developers will write the best software for popular video cards. Recently, many new coins have been released, where Intel video cards will not show good performance in mining.Some coins can be mined on this video card, but now it is not profitable.
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