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January 30, 2021, 10:36:41 AM
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well, world call it "balance" . i've viewed a similar thread like this , why they can bought a expensive yacht but why they seems doesn't care with the poor . then u will know why they bought the yacht.

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January 30, 2021, 11:54:10 AM
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Rich people became rich  because they worked hard for it and mostly rich people have high dreams and they believe of their capabilities that's why they were in the position they deserved on the society. I am not underestimating poor people but they usually lazy and stubborn always relying on the help of others and government as well. Rich people have high taxes too.

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January 30, 2021, 12:14:01 PM
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Do you think its unfair to have rich people while others are unfortunate to become poor?

Its absurd to have a specific law of giving to the poor the money of rich people that they didnt use for long time. Just think on how they acquire it, you cant see money anywhere there's a process to accumulate it and that is by working hard.

Instead of thinking how to take advantage the assets of rich people, why dont you work hard and set a goal to improve the way you live.

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January 30, 2021, 12:46:39 PM
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Or maybe the point is not that there are many rich, but that there are a lot of lazy people who do not want to strain, but who want to live well, though at someone else's expense? We are not talking about the rich type of the Rockefeller families and the like, who, I remind you, have become like that for centuries and thanks to their minds. Most likely we are talking about a lot of rich people who in a fairly short time (conditionally) became millionaires. Did they steal the money? Criminally, deceiving, took possession of them? No - this is an assessment of their studies, efforts, hard work ... Now answer - why are these people obliged to support someone who does not even want to "lift a finger" to improve their situation. If we talk about third world countries where poverty is a "habit of living like this" - and here the rich are not obliged to support the poor, the rich can invest in their economies to create jobs, create a demand for specialists, which means they will instill a desire to learn and develop. ... This is provided if the population is ready to work and adhere to the rules ... Well, you know what I mean!

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January 30, 2021, 01:45:44 PM
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All people deserve to become rich, but they need to work very hard than the other people, which I do not think that many people will want to do that. I think only some people who are willing to work hard and not use their time to relax or do their hobby because they dream that they can become rich in the future.
People who rich can share their money in the donations forms to help poor people in other countries. We already have the revolution in all countries, while many people are trying to rise in this pandemic. But maybe not all people will have the big chance to become rich and accept their situations.



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January 30, 2021, 02:24:14 PM
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Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

Islam has a very good solution to these problems. In Islamic law rich people has to pay some portion of their money to the poor as a donation. They call it "jakat" which has been officially collected and distributed by the Govt in the golden ages of Islam.  I do not find any better solution besides this which can lower the difference between rich and poor.

You can get more knowledge about it in here: https://proven-sa.com/2020/03/calculating-zakat/
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January 30, 2021, 04:16:06 PM
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that's not the perspective. In regulating the economic balance, we often see how a person is poor or rich. rule after rule cannot be changed and burdens the poor. all taxes receive it, based on their adjusted holdings. the state plays a role in regulating the taxation system. As long as we can and are able to use information, then I don't see poverty. not about money, but about the knowledge that makes one rich.

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January 30, 2021, 05:06:11 PM
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I wonder one thing... so I have some of my own calculations, with a few millions I would live like a boss until the rest of my life, with my family! I could stop working and still have everything! So why people need 10 millions, a billion... zillion? Is it because of the bigger house, bigger boat? Is it more about controlling others with the money you have?
Why someone needs a billion dollar? When you can have a full life even with a lot less... those people are probably broken inside... it's what I think! They have some psychological problems...

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January 30, 2021, 06:51:47 PM
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Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!
Well actually, we can never cut that culture where the rich are just getting wealthier while the poor are getting poorer. If you want to escape this cycle, it is all in your hands. If you are going to let the rich ones use you to get richer while you are just barely surviving, it will never stop for sure. It's not about the taxes cause the rich ones are those who pays much larger amount of taxes. It would be best if you start rethinking your life again and start having a mindset alike with the rich ones where they keep on building their dreams through those who are discouraged and afraid to build their own.
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January 30, 2021, 07:57:49 PM
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Being taxed more just for being rich is unequal but not doing so creates inequality as well. It's double-edged. Like, would it be fair if you made a million bucks for the gov to take a larger % of your earnings than they would from someone who's earning $2k a month? Why so? Maybe the $2k/mo guy has a very easy job while you've earned your million through hard work. How's that fair?

There'll always be hoarders. If larger sums equal larger taxes, then a lot of people will prefer to rather illegally cash in their bucks. That is also bad.

Creating a world where equality exists means going after some communist/extremist principles one way or another, and let's not forget that lots of governments take so much money they do nothing with besides stealing it and throwing it into their own pockets. It's almost impossible to do it peacefully.
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January 30, 2021, 07:59:42 PM
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Being a rich is a dirty thing too, there are only certain people who have become rich from honest work, otherwise everything happens from dirty job. Don't have an expectation that they study and work hard.

But at the same time, why are you poor? Yeah, it's hard to be poor but it's hard to be rich too. Just sitting at home and doing nothing can't bring you money. Work hard smartly.

And, if we set higher taxes on rich people, we have to put highest percentage of money into education. When there will be an educated people, politicians and "bad guys" will have less power on people. Right now, fake promises and fake hopes still win over people.

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January 30, 2021, 08:48:34 PM
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Being taxed more just for being rich is unequal but not doing so creates inequality as well. It's double-edged. Like, would it be fair if you made a million bucks for the gov to take a larger % of your earnings than they would from someone who's earning $2k a month? Why so? Maybe the $2k/mo guy has a very easy job while you've earned your million through hard work. How's that fair?

How is it fair that one person is must pay $1 million in taxes and another must pay 0, especially when the person that pays 0 gets more in benefits? Wouldn't it be fair only if each person pays the same amount of taxes and receives the same amount of benefits? It is argued that the wealthier person pays more because they can, but is that fair? It seems more like extortion to me.

Being a rich is a dirty thing too, there are only certain people who have become rich from honest work, otherwise everything happens from dirty job. Don't have an expectation that they study and work hard.

If you ever become rich, I will remember your post. I will claim that you are dirty because you are rich and most rich people are dirty, and I will use your post to make my point.

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January 30, 2021, 10:11:27 PM
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It pains me to say this. But a world where nothing is inventivised and everything is free will not work.if we are benevolent creatures who are all for peace and world understanding then it might happen, but we happened to be creatures of greed, sloth and profiteering, so no one will take the action of labouring so the rest of the society can survive. That's how it is, that's how me and you will act once it happens
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January 30, 2021, 10:20:58 PM
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Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

Nope, this thing wont happen even on my wildest dreams.There's no such thing about giving those funds back to the poor and imagine on how hard those rich men do able to reach out that state
neither via investment, inheritance, pure hard work and other viable reason for him to reach that one and ending up on taken and give to the poor?

thats not how the reality works and you should really stopped on imaging for that thing because it wont really happen no matter what.
Instead on having that jealousy then better work hard and make yourself improved in terms of living and financial status.

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January 30, 2021, 10:32:28 PM
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If there are laws that give all the wealth to the poor, then eventually there will be no more wealthy people. Then, how will the poor survive?

Moreover, if you give money of the rich to the poor, won't that make the poor rich? What then? The poor will fight among each other, or maybe the rich, who became poor, will fight to get back what was taken from them? The ideas of Robin Hood are pretty dead in modern capitalist society and may it stay this way.
Question for OP: Who is going to decide which people are rich and which are poor? It's pretty easy if you look at the extremes and put together a single mom who works in a diner to feed her children and Jeff Bezos, but let's look at the middle. Where will you draw the line? Is someone who has $10m going to fall into the "rich group"? How about someone who has $100k in the bank?

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January 30, 2021, 10:43:57 PM
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I'm not saying capitalism is good or beneficial, but if we keep our ways right now, the concept of hierarchy of wealth will remain the most sound and effective way of dealing with society. Someone has to man around people to do the work and be of service to the rest of the society, if we just give people money, there will come a point where they won't want to work anymore since they're gonna be incentivized anyway, so for a concept like free money to work, altruism is something that must be done by everyone.
Being a rich is a dirty thing too, there are only certain people who have become rich from honest work, otherwise everything happens from dirty job. Don't have an expectation that they study and work hard.

But at the same time, why are you poor? Yeah, it's hard to be poor but it's hard to be rich too. Just sitting at home and doing nothing can't bring you money. Work hard smartly.

And, if we set higher taxes on rich people, we have to put highest percentage of money into education. When there will be an educated people, politicians and "bad guys" will have less power on people. Right now, fake promises and fake hopes still win over people.
Taxation only works up to a certain degree, everyone should rule in negative factors like graft and corrpution in the government's end because those will always exist, so the more taxes imposed on people means more leeway for these politicians to earn ill-gotten wealth.

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January 30, 2021, 11:00:07 PM
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Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor
Do you know about the quote about giving man a fish and teaching them how to fish?
Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!
If you insist to start for a revolution, do it alone. I don't want to be involved with something like this that's totally threatening the government. We can help others in our own ways even without publicizing it.

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January 30, 2021, 11:08:47 PM
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If there is no poor people then there are no rich people. Some are rich people because they work hard for it and some are inherited. There is even a billionaire who donated his money to those who need it the most especially those country that may have another lockdown. It is not bad to share but doing it like that will only make the country's economy down.

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January 30, 2021, 11:12:03 PM
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Isn't that too much? I mean, there are a lot of rich that people that already help poor people but I don't think it would always be the case. Just imagine if there are a lot of people that would take advantage of it and just rely on that certain law. Most of these people worked hard achieving what they have right now, for starters, they rich people and the government should give them sources of profits and not this.

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January 31, 2021, 12:06:34 AM
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Rich people became rich  because they worked hard for it and mostly rich people have high dreams and they believe of their capabilities that's why they were in the position they deserved on the society. I am not underestimating poor people but they usually lazy and stubborn always relying on the help of others and government as well. Rich people have high taxes too.

As much as I hate the idea of socialist redistribution, generalizing this way is pretty naive. Sure, some rich people became rich because they worked hard, others like former wives of billionaires happened to marry the right guy and then get a nice divorce settlement. Let's not forget about those who inherited family money, or happened to invest in the right thing, like many Bitcoiners.

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