Rich have too much

[desticy]

And what is the revolution? The rich get richer not just because they are rich, but because they have more opportunities. But in my opinion, the revolution has already taken place. If you want to get rich you have a lot of opportunities thanks to the Internet. Obviously, if you were not born rich, you will have to make some effort to become one, alas, this is how the system works today. However, it cannot be called unjust, because it exists in existence, and justice is an uncertain thing.

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[carlfebz2]

And what is the revolution? The rich get richer not just because they are rich, but because they have more opportunities. But in my opinion, the revolution has already taken place. If you want to get rich you have a lot of opportunities thanks to the Internet. Obviously, if you were not born rich, you will have to make some effort to become one, alas, this is how the system works today. However, it cannot be called unjust, because it exists in existence, and justice is an uncertain thing.

There are just people who cant just accept the reality and would just hope that they would really be getting some assistance or giving out some freebies without doing much work.

On this world there is only rich and poor and to those who are in average. Being rich doesnt mean that those we're given or inheritance and most of them are the fruits of their hardwork

by ways of investment or businesses on what them make rich.Being poor isnt really a reason for you to stop nor just simply rely into others and its better to work hard
for your own success rather than on depending to others.

[Janation]

This is not a good law.

I know that you are just talking about it so you could help those that really need it. The flaw in your proposition is that most of the poor people are not even trying to make a way so that they could be successful one day. If you will just give the poor the money of the rich people, don't you think that it is just unfair and people would just rely on that help?

Exactly, They won't even try to work anymore as they will know they will get money from someone who is working way harder than them.
Eventually, a major population will decide to follow this and at last, there will be no rich left
 or
There will be riots as Why a person who has worked hard will give his asset to someone who is not even trying to move his ass.

That is so true.

They are saying that this is unfair but this is also unfair. We can't just use inequality as a solution to inequality itself. What people needs, the poor is the chance, the opportunity for them to rise. And the problem most of the time is that there are a lot of opportunities for a lot of people but they tend to not accept or would not continue.

[DrBeer]

I want to remind all participants of the topic a historical example:
Once upon a time there existed, albeit not the most powerful, and not the most influential, and even under-empire, called the "Russian Empire". She captured a lot of foreign territories, resources, people. And by a certain moment, when a stratum of the rich was formed, something was built there, the economy worked more or less stably, and then there appeared "revolutionaries" whose idea sounded like this: "take everything from the rich and divide it among the poor" ... As a result, it was built an eternally poor, embittered, wild country called the USSR, which eventually collapsed. This is a historical example that says that one cannot "take away from the rich and divide among the poor", this will not lead to a solution to the problem, but will only aggravate it ...

[Quidat]

This is not a good law.

I know that you are just talking about it so you could help those that really need it. The flaw in your proposition is that most of the poor people are not even trying to make a way so that they could be successful one day. If you will just give the poor the money of the rich people, don't you think that it is just unfair and people would just rely on that help?

Exactly, They won't even try to work anymore as they will know they will get money from someone who is working way harder than them.
Eventually, a major population will decide to follow this and at last, there will be no rich left
 or
There will be riots as Why a person who has worked hard will give his asset to someone who is not even trying to move his ass.

That is so true.

They are saying that this is unfair but this is also unfair. We can't just use inequality as a solution to inequality itself. What people needs, the poor is the chance, the opportunity for them to rise. And the problem most of the time is that there are a lot of opportunities for a lot of people but they tend to not accept or would not continue.

Life is always been unfair where are things things which supposed to be on that manner but due to inequality when it comes to financial state of life then you would really having
more opportunities when you are rich since they are capable of things when it comes to money.Its just sad that opportunities are way more being offered to rich isntea
on poor ones well this is the reality and we don have any choice but to deal with it.Instead of complaining then its better to work hard and smart
so that you would able to enhance yourself in terms of your situation.

[pixie85]

I want to remind all participants of the topic a historical example:
Once upon a time there existed, albeit not the most powerful, and not the most influential, and even under-empire, called the "Russian Empire". She captured a lot of foreign territories, resources, people. And by a certain moment, when a stratum of the rich was formed, something was built there, the economy worked more or less stably, and then there appeared "revolutionaries" whose idea sounded like this: "take everything from the rich and divide it among the poor" ... As a result, it was built an eternally poor, embittered, wild country called the USSR, which eventually collapsed. This is a historical example that says that one cannot "take away from the rich and divide among the poor", this will not lead to a solution to the problem, but will only aggravate it ...

This is such a good example.

We can take an even broader example. Every single communist and socialist country that ever existed either collapsed in time or made the people miserable, poor and deprived of human rights like North Korea.

Maybe this is why they hate capitalism so much because it works and their system does not.

[AndySt]

Life is always been unfair where are things things which supposed to be on that manner but due to inequality when it comes to financial state of life then you would really having
more opportunities when you are rich since they are capable of things when it comes to money.Its just sad that opportunities are way more being offered to rich isntea
on poor ones well this is the reality and we don have any choice but to deal with it.Instead of complaining then its better to work hard and smart
so that you would able to enhance yourself in terms of your situation.

As many people as there are, there are so many opinions, and different people have different ideas about justice. Someone is calm and philosophical about social stratification and appalling poverty, someone does not agree with this and some, on the contrary, even try to fight it. Personally, I agree with the view that excessive inequality and abysmal poverty should not be the basis of life in the 21st century, and social Darwinism is just a clumsy attempt to justify the failures of public authorities in social policy.

[tabas]

The reason why rich people become rich is luck? Or knowledge?

Both but majority of them because of knowledge and attitude towards their investments and businesses.

The poor can only fight on their own, and I think they will also improve their lives. There are too many rich people. Is this inflation in various countries?

You should accept it that each country has their own rich people. But many of those rich people also came from nothing to something. It's all about the determination and grind of the people who are not yet rich because that will determine their future.

[patientforzhou]

America is, in principle, a democracy, in which every vote counts the same. It’s also a nation in which income inequality has soared, a development that hurts many more people than it helps. So if you didn’t know better, you might have expected to see a political backlash: demands for higher taxes on the rich, more spending on the working class and higher wages.

[carlisle1]

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

If this Happens then you can stay LAZY as what you are now and will Just wait for another Rich confiscated asset to be shared for you?
and if there is no rich people then we are all the same ? who will Build your house?

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

But what i Believe that Richer must cover the taxes of the Poorer , Meaning they will Pay for the taxes that supposedly paid by Poor because they are gaining too small and be taken taxes.

[Sithara007]

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

Yeah.. they tried that in Venezuela and look at where they are right now. This strategy could have resulted in limited success a few decades ago. But nowadays it is very easy to move your assets from one country to another and to attain citizenship of smaller island nations where there is no income tax. If the government introduces confiscatory tax policies, then the rich are going to simply migrate to some other country, where the tax rules are more sane. And let's not forget what happened in France after François Hollande introduced the 75% tax for super-rich.

[BlackHatCoiner]

Someone has ran out of farming ideas.  

Rich have too much !!'
Nedd laws the money u dont use long time will be taken and goved to poor

Lets take and share to poor more taxes and taxes % to me im poor
Time for revolution !!!

• Take a history book. (A nice one from amazon)
• Open it. (Once you've bought it)
• Read it. (Important part)

And at that moment you will realize that this topic requires much more discussion than a "simple" answer from a bitcointalk member. There are people that have died in order to have this (even unhealthy sometimes) capitalization. History has shown that taking wealth from the rich and giving it to the poor has failed. You shouldn't be looking what's the best for the world, but what is not the worst.

There is a system that I consider the "most equal for all", but cannot be implemented since Government won't ever allow it and it goes as following:

You have a steady income. Let's say $2000. At the end of the month, if you haven't spent a penny, Government will take half of what you've left, in this example, $1000. If you don't like that then, spend them. If you spend all the $2000, then it'll tax you $0. This way, the money will circulate which also means healthy capitalization. Money isn't meant to be kept on your closet.

What government does with that money is another discussion which is mostly why this way can't work.

[iamsheikhadil]

If the money of the rich people will be given to the poor, then this will entail huge conflicts.  Also, a bankrupt rich man will be overcome by apathy and progress will slow down, because as everyone knows, if people do not have the right to huge capital, then they stop in the development of their activities and spend everything to the last penny

No one's going to forcefully take a rich man's money and give it to the poor. No one has the right and it's morally as well as legally wrong to do so. However, the super rich can donate money and solve the crisis of millions of poor. You see, as one gets richer, their life style changes a lot. But a human being doesn't necessarily need so much high standard of living just for the sake of show off. If very rich people stop wasting money on things that don't even matter to them much then it will also help. For example, if they don't purchase their 340th car, and want to spend it on feeding 100 families for a year, they surely can. This is just my opinion, which is subjective and welcome for criticism

[Psynthax]

It's true that rich people could get richer but we all have the freedom to change our lives and our fate by working hard. We might not get rich instantly but our perseverance could change our status. Instead of blaming them for being richer, why don't we just have them as an inspiration to work harder? Life is hard but we should persevere harder.

It's more of problem with the big corporations trying to open business with tons of money and compete again some small business in nearly almost all sectors.
they have the capital to bring down all the small business to the ground and after that reap the profit and monopolize the market.

People always say to work harder but they don't know that work hard without capital means less opportunity of being success or almost near to nothing. Imagine opening up a small shop and then the large corporation trying to compete with you and making some huge discount you lost your margin, I guarantee your business gonna go bankrupt within few months while although they lost some money they could reap a lot more profit because there's no competition.

[bakasabo]

If OP proposes to create a law against rich people, then there must be a law against poor people too. Everything needs to be balanced.
Otherwise we will come to situation, when a man, that worked hard to earn will simply feed a lazy person. Im sure that this poor person will quickly become a parasite.

Being poor or rich is just a state of mind. Everyone is able to change his life. All you need is to set a goal, go and achieve it. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime - is a good quotation in our topic case.

[DrBeer]

I want to remind all participants of the topic a historical example:
Once upon a time there existed, albeit not the most powerful, and not the most influential, and even under-empire, called the "Russian Empire". She captured a lot of foreign territories, resources, people. And by a certain moment, when a stratum of the rich was formed, something was built there, the economy worked more or less stably, and then there appeared "revolutionaries" whose idea sounded like this: "take everything from the rich and divide it among the poor" ... As a result, it was built an eternally poor, embittered, wild country called the USSR, which eventually collapsed. This is a historical example that says that one cannot "take away from the rich and divide among the poor", this will not lead to a solution to the problem, but will only aggravate it ...

This is such a good example.

We can take an even broader example. Every single communist and socialist country that ever existed either collapsed in time or made the people miserable, poor and deprived of human rights like North Korea.

Maybe this is why they hate capitalism so much because it works and their system does not.

Have you noticed a pattern too?
Yes, that's right - countries in which they deny private property, market relations, where a lazy and lumpenized population lives - the ideology has always been "so that there are no rich" and "take everything from the rich and give to the poor." Normal countries always strive to ensure that the population has a decent level of income. At a minimum, this allows the economy to work - if there are wealthy people, then they will consume goods and services, which means that producers (business) will work and produce, which means they will pay taxes and fill the budget. What about poor countries? If a sock is rubbed, they don't go to buy a new one, but sit and mend an old one full of holes But they won't go to buy, which means that the manufacturer or the store will not receive money, which means that its sellers will not receive a salary, and the owner will not pay taxes ...

[Noctis Connor]

I can't say that im not agree but those rich people they work hard to earn what they deserve the life of being rich If this law is create then in the world of full of B.S it will be unbalance people will become lazy and there's no reason for them to work anymore they just asking for full support for something and waiting for them just to get their money. Economy will means nothing but a bunch of people who are wasting there days to come by and waiting for their death to comes. And this doesn't solve the problem the world encountering right now.

[bryant.coleman]

I can't say that im not agree but those rich people they work hard to earn what they deserve the life of being rich If this law is create then in the world of full of B.S it will be unbalance people will become lazy and there's no reason for them to work anymore they just asking for full support for something and waiting for them just to get their money. Economy will means nothing but a bunch of people who are wasting there days to come by and waiting for their death to comes. And this doesn't solve the problem the world encountering right now.

Not all of the rich people have worked hard for their wealth, as a majority have inherited it. Take the case of Donald Trump for example. His father provided him with a large capital to start and he managed to multiply that capital by several times. That doesn't mean that he is the best businessman out there. There may be millions of others who are more talented. But they don't have the same chance of creating wealth, because they don't have access to the same amount of capital to start with.

But despite all this, I am against seizing wealth from the rich and distributing it to the poor. If the poor want to improve their lives, then they need to work hard. Get good education and gain knowledge and skills. Never think that it is the responsibility of someone else to make your lives better.

[whyrqa]

I can't say that im not agree but those rich people they work hard to earn what they deserve the life of being rich If this law is create then in the world of full of B.S it will be unbalance people will become lazy and there's no reason for them to work anymore they just asking for full support for something and waiting for them just to get their money. Economy will means nothing but a bunch of people who are wasting there days to come by and waiting for their death to comes. And this doesn't solve the problem the world encountering right now.

Not all of the rich people have worked hard for their wealth, as a majority have inherited it. Take the case of Donald Trump for example. His father provided him with a large capital to start and he managed to multiply that capital by several times. That doesn't mean that he is the best businessman out there. There may be millions of others who are more talented. But they don't have the same chance of creating wealth, because they don't have access to the same amount of capital to start with.

But despite all this, I am against seizing wealth from the rich and distributing it to the poor. If the poor want to improve their lives, then they need to work hard. Get good education and gain knowledge and skills. Never think that it is the responsibility of someone else to make your lives better.

There is such a stereotype that the old capitalists and billionaires who personally worked to create their capital, and they not only know the value of this captain, but also know the unspoken rules by which Business operates. And for this period, young businessmen who continue the activities of their parents, think only about how to increase their capital and satisfy their pride, very often harming everything around them. Based on this, a new business will never think about an ordinary person.

[wxxyrqa]

Islam has a very good solution to these problems. In Islamic law rich people has to pay some portion of their money to the poor as a donation. They call it "jakat" which has been officially collected and distributed by the Govt in the golden ages of Islam.  I do not find any better solution besides this which can lower the difference between rich and poor.

You can get more knowledge about it in here: https://proven-sa.com/2020/03/calculating-zakat/

I believe that the Arab countries here definitely cannot be a role model, although the real exception may be the United Arab Emirates, where the citizen of the country is provided with equal opportunities for life. In addition, one must take into account the fact that large Bitcoin holders are not always prudent and are unlikely to have the desire to share with the poor. If exactly what you are talking about existed in the world, we would have much less problems than we have today.