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February 10, 2021, 01:13:56 PM
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we do not want or need bitcoin to be a 'one world currency'. but it will always remain a second exit away from fiat
A "one world currency" will freak the Christians out 😂 😂. So, we don't want anything disturbing our peace of mind. Be that as it may be and frankly speaking, Bitcoin can never be that currency. Anything that relies heavily on the internet can't be generally used by everyone because of lack of facilities, let alone a sophisticated tech like Bitcoin.


OP, politicians will continue to hate Bitcoin because it makes a mess of the various governments' central banks. Government controls its financial institutions and cash flow through its central bank but can't control Bitcoin because it's decentralized and this annoys the government.

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February 10, 2021, 05:29:43 PM
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BTC made by someone but fiat made by governments so do you think government is going to prefer BTC over fiat and pay the salaries and collect taxes in the form of Bitcoins?

In few places government accept taxes even through cryptocurrency but if we take a look at the bigger countries they are clearly against its adoption even though they make revenue from Crypto trading and earnings. Governments will not accept btc until the users forces the btc over fiat as preferred currency for payments.
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February 10, 2021, 05:50:28 PM
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Governments do not like Bitcoin because Bitcoin takes away the power of printing money from thin air (printing machine goes Brrrrrrrrrr).

Bitcoin will never be accepted, unless the governments find a way to tax it, or gain control over it in any way. Or after a Civil War where the people take the power back from the Central bankers who keep printing money and making everybody else poorer.
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February 12, 2021, 05:37:32 AM
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BTC made by someone but fiat made by governments so do you think government is going to prefer BTC over fiat and pay the salaries and collect taxes in the form of Bitcoins?

In few places government accept taxes even through cryptocurrency but if we take a look at the bigger countries they are clearly against its adoption even though they make revenue from Crypto trading and earnings. Governments will not accept btc until the users forces the btc over fiat as preferred currency for payments.
But remember that some private sectors pay salary with bitcoin, and even now some people preferred be pay with cryptocurrency than fiat, the only problem is that some country likes cryptocurrency and they are few who really welcomed adoption of crypto, so is anything bad bitcoin did to government, the answer is no.

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February 12, 2021, 05:45:26 PM
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     Every currency, rugulated or not has their own flaws, can be used in good and can be used in evil. There are always two sides on a single coin. It only depends on the person holding it whether it'd be used for good or for evil. Which is why the government's and bank's logic about bitcoin are nothing but crap in my eyes. They are merely baseless accusations and are just for the sake of having something to throw at bitcoin. One way or another they will be forced to eat their words when mass adoption get bugger and faster or they'll be left behind.

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February 12, 2021, 07:36:07 PM
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Governments will not accept btc until the users forces the btc over fiat as preferred currency for payments.
It matters less if Government accepts Bitcoin or not, as long as individuals and institutional Investors keep adopting the technology, then Bitcoin will continue to wax strong. If government could control or manipulate it like they do with their fiat, then their support would have meant a lot. Governments like Nigeria that have decided to ban cryptocurrency trading and usage have only made it difficult for their citizens to use Bitcoin and nothing more, it doesn't really affect the network in the grand scheme of things.

Bitcoin users can't really force the predominance of Bitcoin over Fiat, that feat isn't even possible, people who appreciate the decentralized nature of Bitcoin and want to continue 'being their own bank' simply will continue using the network, without really bothering much about the government and their take on the network.

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February 13, 2021, 06:09:46 AM
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Otherwise, nowadays more authorities have started to realize that.
Miami mayor is going to allow pay taxes in Bitcoin.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-08/miami-mayor-hints-at-measure-to-put-crypto-on-city-balance-sheet
One of NYC mayoral candidate is very Bitcoin friendly.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/andrew-yang-says-he-ll-transform-nyc-into-a-bitcoin-hub-if-elected-mayor
And don't forget about Malta that gets the reputation of Blockchain island.

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February 13, 2021, 07:49:16 AM
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Otherwise, nowadays more authorities have started to realize that.
Miami mayor is going to allow pay taxes in Bitcoin.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-08/miami-mayor-hints-at-measure-to-put-crypto-on-city-balance-sheet
One of NYC mayoral candidate is very Bitcoin friendly.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/andrew-yang-says-he-ll-transform-nyc-into-a-bitcoin-hub-if-elected-mayor
And don't forget about Malta that gets the reputation of Blockchain island.

That is pretty awesome. Malta has been a great country for gamblers and internet entrepreneurs for a while now. It is a good idea to be leading in the crypto world and make attractive laws for traders. I think Malta offers a lot for the rich people, very low tax rates, nice climate, can go fast by plane to any other European country.
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February 13, 2021, 08:49:09 AM
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politicians can accept donation in gold. politicians can spend gold for haircuts. this does not mean they are then going to make a gold standard/gold backed currency as the national fiat.

making bitcoin a national currency does not remove the faults of national currencies. it just brings the problems of national currencies into bitcoin

having bitcoin as a separate asset to hoard value in should remain as a separate option from fiat. then there is an escape.

we do not want or need bitcoin to be a 'one world currency'. but it will always remain a second exit away from fiat

Consider for a moment if government accept digital currencies and start transactions in bitcoin, the government will have no control over the monetary system and they will not be able to take taxes etc. Also, if bitcoin and digital currencies grows, it will mean end of the whole banking sector of the country. These are some reasons why governmenst will never be happy to make bitcoin legal.

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February 13, 2021, 09:21:49 AM
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US candidate for Mayor in NYC update - Andrew Yang is leading the polls and he says he's pro BTC: https://markets.businessinsider.com/currencies/news/andrew-yang-new-york-bitcoin-hub-cryptocurrencies-elected-mayor-candidate-2021-2-1030078017

This could be useless pandering, but I've long said Andrew Yang is the most pro-crypto candidate, probably in modern political history. And he's got a good shot at winning.

Edit: Also check out his podcast with Joe Rogan. It's very long but if you're into UBI, AI replacing jobs, check it out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTsEzmFamZ8
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some of them even buy bitcoin for sure so they could not be against

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March 04, 2021, 02:40:37 PM
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BTC made by someone but fiat made by governments so do you think government is going to prefer BTC over fiat and pay the salaries and collect taxes in the form of Bitcoins?

In few places government accept taxes even through cryptocurrency but if we take a look at the bigger countries they are clearly against its adoption even though they make revenue from Crypto trading and earnings. Governments will not accept btc until the users forces the btc over fiat as preferred currency for payments.
But remember that some private sectors pay salary with bitcoin, and even now some people preferred be pay with cryptocurrency than fiat, the only problem is that some country likes cryptocurrency and they are few who really welcomed adoption of crypto, so is anything bad bitcoin did to government, the answer is no.
Bitcoin adoption means avoiding the fiat payment and it will be completely destroyed when everyone wants their salary in bitcoin, even though it is not doing anything bad for the government they will consider that cryptos endanger to the future of government's economic system.
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March 04, 2021, 03:32:08 PM
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Yes, obviously the government is against cryptocurrency, because they are worried that the popularity of cryptocurrency can beat their currency. So that they reject cryptocurrency in any way. In my country they use laws to prohibit the circulation of cryptocurrency. Anyone caught using cryptocurrency will be penalized.
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My problem with national currency is brain dead printing of fiat which causes the inflation to skyrocket. You can’t do this with crypto. That being said, I don’t want fiat to disappear, I want it to exist along side of crypto. So if the government fucks up fiat through irresponsible spending, people can switch to crypto which might act as an incentive for governments to NOT light money on fire.

inflation rate has been hidden in many ways. and soon enough america will spike(hyper inflate)
since the 1970's america has hidden wage raises by not offering people an increase in pay and instead hiding the extra wage as 'benefits' like company insurance and pensions, company cars, company childcare
only a few years ago the first signs appeared with wanting to increase the $7.50min wage to $15

people have started to smarten up and decline company pension/insurance due to no job security that they will still be in the same role in 40 years. and instead request the hidden 'value' just be paid out as an actual pay rise.
hense the min wage increases for the obvious crappy minimum paid roles where people dont treat it as a career.

once people start getting more true income. it then affects the inflation rate. although there is the same money overall. its just no longer hidden off the books. the fact that the bottomline income increases in real end-spending utility affects the inflation rate.
this has been something that has been bubbling for decades and is about to burst.

you might see how certain higher up people are trying too hard to push to avoid social healthcare via tax. you will see them trying to promote adding more 'employee benefits' and avoid any further minimum wage increases.
.. and all of this is to try not letting inflation go hyper.

in short even if government stopped 'printing money' the inflation going hyper can still happen due to what i just said.

imagine it. if you had $15.6k 5 years ago. and still on a minimum wage now, but getting $31.2k then retailers/realtors will double their prices due to 2x more income

higher ups have been trying hard to avoid you ever getting $32k on your payslip. and hide that $15k as 'benefits' pre pay-slip.

so just expect inflation to go hyper. even without the 'printing money' part. but then expect it to go hyper-hyper with the 'print money' part

The standard of living has also increased though. So if you consider the value of your dollar, it goes further than it did decades ago. Inflation, by definition, is essentially your currency losing it's value. However, look at the concept of purchasing power and detach it from inflation. What was the price you were paying for high speed internet a decade ago for example? What is the price now? Say you were making 50 thousand per year 10 years ago and you still make that same wage today. Inflation has cut against your total purchasing power technically, but you still can get a higher value for your money than you did 10 years ago due to technology, innovation, ect.

So yes, while wages have not always increased, the standard of living has.

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