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My take is that Trump will never set foot on a prison. It is very likely that he has committed a number of crimes including sedition, treason and broken several federal rules. The obvious problem is that he has the RP under his thumb and seems to have an unlimited influence in some areas of the US and has the ability to install and depose candidates at will.
There is no way that the judiciary nor the legislative can deal with such an influence to the point of sending the guy to prison. Best case scenario (or worst for Grump Trump), he will get a sweet deal as long as he renounces his political career.
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Could somebody please list the bad things that Trump did? Please don't list opinions. Rather, list the real bad things he did. Also, mention whether or not Biden has done the same, and if Biden did it worse or not. One example is Operation Warp Speed regarding pushing the Covid vaccines that we are now finding out have killed and maimed millions. Of course, Biden pushed the vaccines many times more than Trump, and it was the people who accepted them voluntarily... 'cause people often don't think. Another is that Trump (like other politicians) didn't promote teaching the people how to stand in court as simple unrepresented people so they could win against against victimless crimes the state accused them of. Of course, Biden is ignoring this info at least as badly as Trump. Below is the list of many of the good things that Trump did. Of course, some people won't think that these things are all good. But everybody will find some good among them, even if they don't acknowledge the good. WHAT HAS TRUMP ACTUALLY DONE?
What did PRESIDENT TRUMP and his cabinet accomplish?? ....
HERE YOU GO ... * Trump recently signed 3 bills to benefit Native people. One gives compensation to the Spokane tribe for loss of their lands in the mid-1900s, one funds Native language programs, and the third gives federal recognition to the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians in Montana. * Trump finalized the creation of Space Force as our 6th Military branch. * Trump signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony so that animal abusers face tougher consequences. * Violent crime has fallen every year he’s been in office after rising during the 2 years before he was elected. * Trump signed a bill making CBD and Hemp legal. * Trump’s EPA gave $100 million to fix the water infrastructure problem in Flint, Michigan. * Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil. * Trump signed a law ending the gag orders on Pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving information. * Trump signed the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), which includes the “Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act” (SESTA) which both give law enforcement and victims new tools to fight sex trafficking. * Trump signed a bill to require airports to provide spaces for breastfeeding Moms. * The 25% lowest-paid Americans enjoyed a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country's highest-paid workers. * Low-wage workers are benefiting from higher minimum wages and from corporations that are increasing entry-level pay. * Trump signed the biggest wilderness protection & conservation bill in a decade and designated 375,000 acres as protected land. * Trump signed the Save our Seas Act which funds $10 million per year to clean tons of plastic & garbage from the ocean. * He signed a bill this year allowing some drug imports from Canada so that prescription prices would go down. * Trump signed an executive order this year that forces all healthcare providers to disclose the cost of their services so that Americans can comparison shop and know how much fewer providers charge insurance companies. * When signing that bill he said no American should be blindsided by bills for medical services they never agreed to in advance. * Hospitals will now be required to post their standard charges for services, which include the discounted price a hospital is willing to accept. * In the eight years prior to President Trump’s inauguration, prescription drug prices increased by an average of 3.6% per year. Under Trump, drug prices have seen year-over-year declines in nine of the last ten months, with a 1.1% drop as of the most recent month. * He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans. * VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far. * Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life. * Because of a bill signed and championed by Trump, In 2020, most federal employees will see their pay increase by an average of 3.1% — the largest raise in more than 10 years. * Trump signed into law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers. * Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years. * All-time record sales during the 2019 holidays. * Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price * President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans. * In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill that enacted reforms that make our justice system fairer and help former inmates successfully return to society. * The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes. * The First Step Act expanded judicial discretion in the sentencing of non-violent crimes. * Over 90% of those benefitting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans. * The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime. * Trump increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%. * Trump signed legislation forgiving Hurricane Katrina debt that threatened HBCUs. * New single-family home sales are up 31.6% in October 2019 compared to just one year ago. * Made HBCUs a priority by creating the position of executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs. * Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments. * The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment. * Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data. * President Trump signed a bill that creates five national monuments, expands several national parks, adds 1.3 million acres of wilderness, and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund. * Trump’s USDA committed $124 Million to rebuild rural water infrastructure. * Consumer confidence & small business confidence is at an all-time high. * More than 7 million jobs created since the election. * More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history. * More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs created since his election. * Trump appointed 5 openly gay ambassadors. * Trump ordered Ric Grenell, his openly gay ambassador to Germany, to lead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe. * Through Trump’s Anti-Trafficking Coordination Team (ACTeam) initiative, Federal law enforcement more than doubled convictions of human traffickers and increased the number of defendants charged by 75% in ACTeam districts. * In 2018, the Department of Justice (DOJ) dismantled an organization that was the internet’s leading source of prostitution-related advertisements resulting in sex trafficking. * Trump’s OMB published new anti-trafficking guidance for government procurement officials to more effectively combat human trafficking. * Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations arrested 1,588 criminals associated with Human Trafficking. * Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services provided funding to support the National Human Trafficking Hotline to identify perpetrators and give victims the help they need. * The hotline identified 16,862 potential human trafficking cases. * Trump’s DOJ provided grants to organizations that support human trafficking victims – serving nearly 9,000 cases from July 1, 2017, to June 30, 2018. * The Department of Homeland Security has hired more victim assistance specialists, helping victims get resources and support. * President Trump has called on Congress to pass school choice legislation so that no child is trapped in a failing school because of his or her zip code. * The President signed funding legislation in September 2018 that increased funding for school choice by $42 million. * The tax cuts signed into law by President Trump promote school choice by allowing families to use 529 college savings plans for elementary and secondary education. * Under his leadership, ISIS has lost most of its territory and been largely dismantled. * ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was killed. * Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs. * Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers. * Trump issued an Executive Order prohibiting the U.S. government from discriminating against Christians or punishing expressions of faith. * Signed an executive order that allows the government to withhold money from college campuses deemed to be anti-Semitic and who fail to combat anti-Semitism. * President Trump ordered a halt to U.S. tax money going to international organizations that fund or perform abortions. * Trump imposed sanctions on the socialists in Venezuela who have killed their citizens. * Finalized new trade agreement with South Korea. * Made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe. * Withdrew the U.S. from the job-killing TPP deal. * Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam. * Okay’d up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation. * Has had over a dozen US hostages freed, including those Obama could not get freed. * Trump signed the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades. * Trump secured Billions that will fund the building of a wall at our southern border. * The Trump Administration is promoting second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment. * Trump’s DOJ and the Board Of Prisons launched a new “Ready to Work Initiative” to help connect employers directly with former prisoners. * President Trump’s historic tax cut legislation included new Opportunity Zone Incentives to promote investment in low-income communities across the country. * 8,764 communities across the country have been designated as Opportunity Zones. * Opportunity Zones are expected to spur $100 billion in long-term private capital investment in economically distressed communities across the country. * Trump directed the Education Secretary to end Common Core. * Trump signed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund into law. * Trump signed measure funding prevention programs for Veteran suicide. * Companies have brought back over a TRILLION dollars from overseas because of the TCJA bill that Trump signed. * Manufacturing jobs are growing at the fastest rate in more than 30 years. * Stock Market has reached record highs. * Median household income has hit the highest level ever recorded. * African-American unemployment is at an all-time low. * Hispanic-American unemployment is at an all-time low. * Asian-American unemployment is at an all-time low. * Women’s unemployment rate is at a 65-year low. * Youth unemployment is at a 50-year low. * We have the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded. * The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. * 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future— the highest ever. * As a result of the Republican tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years. * Record number of regulations eliminated that hurt small businesses. * Signed welfare reform requiring able-bodied adults who don’t have children to work or look for work if they’re on welfare. * Under Trump, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. * Reformed Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors 100’s of millions of $$$ this year alone. * Signed Right-To-Try legislation allowing terminally ill patients to try an experimental treatment that wasn’t allowed before. * Secured $6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic. * Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care. * U.S. oil production recently reached an all-time high so we are less dependent on oil from the Middle East. * The U.S. is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957. * NATO allies increased their defense spending because of his pressure campaign. * Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord in 2017 and that same year the U.S. still led the world by having the largest reduction in carbon emissions. * Has his circuit court judge nominees being confirmed faster than any other new administration. * Had his Supreme Court Justice’s Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh confirmed. * Moved U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. * Agreed to a new trade deal with Mexico & Canada that will increase jobs here and $$$ coming in. * Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports. * Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices, has agreed to a Part One trade deal with China. * Signed legislation to improve the National Suicide Hotline. * Signed the most comprehensive childhood cancer legislation ever into law, which will advance childhood cancer research and improve treatments. * The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act signed into law by Trump doubled the maximum amount of the child tax credit available to parents and lifted the income limits so more people could claim it. * It also created a new tax credit for other dependents. * In 2018, President Trump signed into law a $2.4 billion funding increase for the Child Care and Development Fund, providing a total of $8.1 billion to states to fund child care for low-income families. * The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit (CDCTC) signed into law by Trump provides a tax credit equal to 20-35% of child care expenses, $3,000 per child & $6,000 per family + Flexible Spending Accounts (FSAs) allow you to set aside up to $5,000 in pre-tax $ to use for child care. * In 2019 President Donald Trump signed the Autism Collaboration, Accountability, Research, Education and Support Act (CARES) into law which allocates $1.8 billion in funding over the next five years to help people with autism spectrum disorder and to help their families. * In 2019 President Trump signed into law two funding packages providing nearly $19 million in new funding for Lupus specific research and education programs, as well an additional $41.7 billion in funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the most Lupus funding EVER. * Another upcoming accomplishment to add: In the next week or two Trump will be signing the first major anti-robocall law in decades called the TRACED Act (Telephone Robocall Abuse Criminal Enforcement and Deterrence.) Once it’s the law, the TRACED Act will extend the period of time the FCC has to catch & punish those who intentionally break telemarketing restrictions. The bill also requires voice service providers to develop a framework to verify calls are legitimate before they reach your phone. * US stock market continually hits all-time record highs. * Because so many people asked for a document with all of this listed in one place, here it is. No links provided to remove bias as Google search is easy. Print this out for family, friends, neighbors, etc. I encourage you to drop this list off to voters before the 2020 election too! *Trump did all of this while fighting flagrant abuse and impeachment charges. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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August 27, 2022, 10:48:29 PM |
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Could somebody please list the bad things that Trump did? Please don't list opinions. Rather, list the real bad things he did. Also, mention whether or not Biden has done the same, and if Biden did it worse or not....
You don't get it. This is not about "good" and "bad", is about "legal" or "illegal". For example: Trying to press a governor to change the results of the elections: Illegal. Sending a mob to the Capitol: Illegal. And that is just the most evident an notorious because is public and has been investigated publicly, there must be piles of illegal doings just waiting to be uncovered once the guy looses the grip on the RP.
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August 28, 2022, 12:43:55 AM |
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Could somebody please list the bad things that Trump did? Please don't list opinions. Rather, list the real bad things he did. Also, mention whether or not Biden has done the same, and if Biden did it worse or not....
You don't get it. This is not about "good" and "bad", is about "legal" or "illegal". For example: Trying to press a governor to change the results of the elections: Illegal. Sending a mob to the Capitol: Illegal. And that is just the most evident an notorious because is public and has been investigated publicly, there must be piles of illegal doings just waiting to be uncovered once the guy looses the grip on the RP. No, it's you that just don't get it. Your blab is simple hearsay and slander. There are videos of the Capitol cops ushering the rioters into the Capitol. There are videos of Trump stating that everything must be done peacefully. You simply slander because you can't find anything bad that Trump has done. But I showed you the dozens or hundreds of good things he did. Time to get Biden and the Dems out of government. Look at the mess people are living in because of them... and the war. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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August 28, 2022, 06:34:03 AM |
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Could somebody please list the bad things that Trump did? Please don't list opinions. Rather, list the real bad things he did. Also, mention whether or not Biden has done the same, and if Biden did it worse or not....
You don't get it. This is not about "good" and "bad", is about "legal" or "illegal". For example: Trying to press a governor to change the results of the elections: Illegal. Sending a mob to the Capitol: Illegal. And that is just the most evident an notorious because is public and has been investigated publicly, there must be piles of illegal doings just waiting to be uncovered once the guy looses the grip on the RP. No, it's you that just don't get it. Your blab is simple hearsay and slander. There are videos of the Capitol cops ushering the rioters into the Capitol. There are videos of Trump stating that everything must be done peacefully. You simply slander because you can't find anything bad that Trump has done. But I showed you the dozens or hundreds of good things he did. Time to get Biden and the Dems out of government. Look at the mess people are living in because of them... and the war. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) There are videos of rioters beating the shit out of Capital Police at the security perimeter. Which is why you see cops standing down once the perimeter was overwhelmed. The "police were waiving them in" argument is a favorite among the lowest IQ Trump supporters (very low). Most of them don't even have a point after "Police were waiving them in". It just ends there. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F5753717ab31f976233fd3fe9b8706e9a.jpg&t=665&c=EO_Dy0khxh1ffQ)
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August 28, 2022, 11:13:56 AM |
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Could somebody please list the bad things that Trump did? Please don't list opinions. Rather, list the real bad things he did. Also, mention whether or not Biden has done the same, and if Biden did it worse or not....
You don't get it. This is not about "good" and "bad", is about "legal" or "illegal". For example: Trying to press a governor to change the results of the elections: Illegal. Sending a mob to the Capitol: Illegal. And that is just the most evident an notorious because is public and has been investigated publicly, there must be piles of illegal doings just waiting to be uncovered once the guy looses the grip on the RP. All these you have mentioned is a mere things that normally happens in politics and you see it as obvious because Trump does not camouflage when he does things. Why not compare the good things he had to that had really favoured the American citizens than obvious coincidence. Do you mean that the current high inflation and other unexpected things citizens are facing now can be compared to the ordinary coincidence that happened during Trump administration? Let's not run around the bush, Trump is till my best president for Americans in respective of what people thinks about him.
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No, it's you that just don't get it. Your blab is simple hearsay and slander. There are videos of the Capitol cops ushering the rioters into the Capitol. There are videos of Trump stating that everything must be done peacefully. You simply slander because you can't find anything bad that Trump has done. But I showed you the dozens or hundreds of good things he did. Time to get Biden and the Dems out of government. Look at the mess people are living in because of them... and the war. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) There are videos of rioters beating the shit out of Capital Police at the security perimeter. Which is why you see cops standing down once the perimeter was overwhelmed. The "police were waiving them in" argument is a favorite among the lowest IQ Trump supporters (very low). Most of them don't even have a point after "Police were waiving them in". It just ends there. https://i.gyazo.com/5753717ab31f976233fd3fe9b8706e9a.jpgThere aren't any videos or any other kind of info that shows that Trump had anything to do with the Jan. 6 riots. But there are videos and info that show that the peaceful gatherings were crashed by Soros paid professional rioters. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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No, it's you that just don't get it. Your blab is simple hearsay and slander. There are videos of the Capitol cops ushering the rioters into the Capitol. There are videos of Trump stating that everything must be done peacefully. You simply slander because you can't find anything bad that Trump has done. But I showed you the dozens or hundreds of good things he did. Time to get Biden and the Dems out of government. Look at the mess people are living in because of them... and the war. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) There are videos of rioters beating the shit out of Capital Police at the security perimeter. Which is why you see cops standing down once the perimeter was overwhelmed. The "police were waiving them in" argument is a favorite among the lowest IQ Trump supporters (very low). Most of them don't even have a point after "Police were waiving them in". It just ends there. https://i.gyazo.com/5753717ab31f976233fd3fe9b8706e9a.jpgThere aren't any videos or any other kind of info that shows that Trump had anything to do with the Jan. 6 riots. But there are videos and info that show that the peaceful gatherings were crashed by Soros paid professional rioters. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Yeah...there are. There's been a bipartisan investigation going on all year. Tons of evidence.
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Yeah...there are. There's been a bipartisan investigation going on all year. Tons of evidence.
Lol. They've been looking for and finding evidence against Trump since before he was elected in 2016. What did they find? Tons of evidence that didn't mean squat. Maybe if they literally overturn every rock in the Appalachian Mountains, maybe they will find some then. But if they don't, they could always start on the Rockies... or maybe check under every snow flake at both of the poles. LOL.
"Declare the Rightful Winner or…Have a New Election"...President Trump shared that the FBI buried the Hunter Biden laptop story and interfered in the 2020 election. The only remedy is to declare the rightful winner or have another election.
So now it comes out, conclusively, that the FBI BURIED THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP STORY BEFORE THE ELECTION knowing that, if they didn't, "Trump would have easily won the 2020 Presidential Election." This is massive FRAUD & ELECTION INTERFERENCE at a level never seen before in our Country. REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately
President Trump is right. The FBI interfered in the 2020 Election. So did the media, Big Tech, corrupt politicians, corrupt government workers, and more. The only remedy for this is as the President says, either declare the rightful winner or have a redo.
Redo's have occurred before and there is a precedent for doing this.
Everybody knows Joe Biden didn't win 81 million votes.
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August 31, 2022, 09:16:43 PM |
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Could somebody please list the bad things that Trump did? Please don't list opinions. Rather, list the real bad things he did. Also, mention whether or not Biden has done the same, and if Biden did it worse or not....
You don't get it. This is not about "good" and "bad", is about "legal" or "illegal". For example: Trying to press a governor to change the results of the elections: Illegal. Sending a mob to the Capitol: Illegal. And that is just the most evident an notorious because is public and has been investigated publicly, there must be piles of illegal doings just waiting to be uncovered once the guy looses the grip on the RP. No, it's you that just don't get it. Your blab is simple hearsay and slander. There are videos of the Capitol cops ushering the rioters into the Capitol. There are videos of Trump stating that everything must be done peacefully. You simply slander because you can't find anything bad that Trump has done. But I showed you the dozens or hundreds of good things he did. Time to get Biden and the Dems out of government. Look at the mess people are living in because of them... and the war. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) No, you may have tried to ignore the investigation that has been done on the subject, but it is recorded and will be there as evidence for historians to consult. The true extent of Trump's actions is well documented and even a number of people from his of family and environment have made very clear that had tried to subvert the US people's will. Again, "good things" is not the topic.
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T r ump might have committed crimes. But he was someone who gave the slogan make America great again. I love him for that...
The "Make America Great" and "America First" campaigns were just stolen from the books of history.
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T r ump might have committed crimes. But he was someone who gave the slogan make America great again. I love him for that...
Well, it came out today that white house aides were responsible for packing up the classified information and placing it in mar-a-lago against Trump's direct orders. He literally ordered them not to pack up the information and they did it anyway. Now the democrats are trying to use this to smear Trump? He literally said not to do it and they went against his orders. I don't even need to look into what party the aides were affiliated with to know what happened here. Our country is under attack and everybody is worried about what bathrooms to use.
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T r ump might have committed crimes. But he was someone who gave the slogan make America great again. I love him for that...
Well, it came out today that white house aides were responsible for packing up the classified information and placing it in mar-a-lago against Trump's direct orders. He literally ordered them not to pack up the information and they did it anyway. Now the democrats are trying to use this to smear Trump? He literally said not to do it and they went against his orders. I don't even need to look into what party the aides were affiliated with to know what happened here. Our country is under attack and everybody is worried about what bathrooms to use. He ordered them not to pack his shit because he wasn't planning on leaving the White House even though he knew he lost the election to Biden. But hey, ok, you don't think Trump should be held responsible for the stolen classified documents that ended up at his home in Florida more than a year after leaving office. What about refusing to return them to the government when asked? He obviously knew he had them since he claimed he declassified them. What about refusing to return them when subpoenaed? What about lying and saying he did return them all when he didn't? What about the 48 empty folders that were recovered without the classified documents that were on the label?Is there anything Trump could do that you wouldn't defend and argue that he's a victim? I don't even need to look into what party the aides were affiliated with to know what happened here. Ummm...you don't seriously think Trumps aids were democrats do you? Jesus. The president chooses who works in the White House while they are in office. "Democrats packed up classified documents and shipped them to Trumps house in florida against his will so he's innocent, the democrats framed him" has to be one of the dumbest arguments I've come across since the FBI recovered the stolen documents. And there have been some very dumb arguments. Just so many layers of stupid when you look at the actual facts. The reality is that if there were a reasonable argument, you'd be parroting it back right now. But there isn't. So all you have are gems like this one.
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Could somebody please list the bad things that Trump did? Please don't list opinions. Rather, list the real bad things he did. Also, mention whether or not Biden has done the same, and if Biden did it worse or not....
You don't get it. This is not about "good" and "bad", is about "legal" or "illegal". For example: Trying to press a governor to change the results of the elections: Illegal. Sending a mob to the Capitol: Illegal. And that is just the most evident an notorious because is public and has been investigated publicly, there must be piles of illegal doings just waiting to be uncovered once the guy looses the grip on the RP. No, it's you that just don't get it. Your blab is simple hearsay and slander. There are videos of the Capitol cops ushering the rioters into the Capitol. There are videos of Trump stating that everything must be done peacefully. You simply slander because you can't find anything bad that Trump has done. But I showed you the dozens or hundreds of good things he did. Time to get Biden and the Dems out of government. Look at the mess people are living in because of them... and the war. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) No, you may have tried to ignore the investigation that has been done on the subject, but it is recorded and will be there as evidence for historians to consult. The true extent of Trump's actions is well documented and even a number of people from his of family and environment have made very clear that had tried to subvert the US people's will. Again, "good things" is not the topic. Trump has photos showing that there was nothing secretive about the way the documents were taken from government. On top of that, he had ordered that at least some of the documents NOT be taken to his home, but Dem compatriots took them there anyway. In addition, the documents were never left lying around at home, but were in a room that was under double lock and key. Besides, all the FBI had to do was ask Trump for the docs; he was ready to voluntarily turn them over anytime; but they never asked him for them. The point is that Trump has always been acting in good faith regarding everything. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I think someone needs to update the poll honestly. The "next year" option is running out of time. Needs to be something between 2023 option and the 2028 option honestly.
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The point is that Trump has always been acting in good faith regarding everything.
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It took the current government all this time to even figure out that they were going to do something. They are on a fishing expedition, just to see if they can't somehow get something - anything - to stop Trump in 2024. They don't have any choice. If they don't stop him now, they are dead, and a bunch of them will be going to prison when Trump gets back in office. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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It took the current government all this time to even figure out that they were going to do something. They are on a fishing expedition, just to see if they can't somehow get something - anything - to stop Trump in 2024. They don't have any choice. If they don't stop him now, they are dead, and a bunch of them will be going to prison when Trump gets back in office. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.snipboard.io%2FThs97q.jpg&t=665&c=vfYG7t9ekYKQzA)
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It took the current government all this time to even figure out that they were going to do something. They are on a fishing expedition, just to see if they can't somehow get something - anything - to stop Trump in 2024. They don't have any choice. If they don't stop him now, they are dead, and a bunch of them will be going to prison when Trump gets back in office. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.snipboard.io%2FThs97q.jpg&t=665&c=vfYG7t9ekYKQzA) History has shown that law enforcement personnel (FBI director, AG, etc) appointed by Republics are not as loyal to the party and President as those appointed by Democrats. For example, James Comey is clearly on the side of Democrats (he campaigned for them in 2018), Barr is on the side of the Constitution and the law, while Holder described himself as Obama's "wingman", and Garland is a political hack. I don't expect Wray to be any different than Comey. Further, many at the top of the FBI have a clear political bias.
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It took the current government all this time to even figure out that they were going to do something. They are on a fishing expedition, just to see if they can't somehow get something - anything - to stop Trump in 2024. They don't have any choice. If they don't stop him now, they are dead, and a bunch of them will be going to prison when Trump gets back in office. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.snipboard.io%2FThs97q.jpg&t=665&c=vfYG7t9ekYKQzA) History has shown that law enforcement personnel (FBI director, AG, etc) appointed by Republics are not as loyal to the party and President as those appointed by Democrats. For example, James Comey is clearly on the side of Democrats (he campaigned for them in 2018), Barr is on the side of the Constitution and the law, while Holder described himself as Obama's "wingman", and Garland is a political hack. I don't expect Wray to be any different than Comey. Further, many at the top of the FBI have a clear political bias. The facts show Trump stole a ton of sensitive government records and refused to give them all back to the FBI voluntarily.
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