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One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt.
This statement is backed by Top Rank honcho himself, Bob Arum. Bob Arum: Eddy Reynoso Sees Something In Berchelt That Valdez Can Exploit
Being the architect of this fight, he would do everything on his power to hype this fight and in fairness to him, boxing fans who love to see a brawl, this might be it. But wonder though, why does they avoid Shakur Stevenson as that might be an easier fight than this one. Probably for a bigger pay day, later on if the play fall into pieces, they will go after Shakur Stevenson as well. At least they have taken down the biggest hurdle and then Shakur will just be the icing in the cake for them as they will have majority of the belts by that time. As far as Reynoso goes, there could be argument that he is just overhype, the argument goes that it is still the boxer who performed inside the ring. Just like when Roach because the trainer of the year because of Pacquaio an several other good boxers in his stable. I may agree with this but i would sat that trainer plays a big role on a fight as he is the one studying the strength and weakness of the opponent and the boxer's job is just to focus on training. Manny Pacquaio is a one-handed fighter when he came to the Wild Card gym and coach Roach introduce to him the Manila Ice ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , which victimized Ricky Hatton lol. Bottom line, trainers are a big help to the career of the boxers, takes two to tango as they say.
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February 10, 2021, 10:49:58 PM |
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One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt.
This statement is backed by Top Rank honcho himself, Bob Arum. Bob Arum: Eddy Reynoso Sees Something In Berchelt That Valdez Can Exploit
Being the architect of this fight, he would do everything on his power to hype this fight and in fairness to him, boxing fans who love to see a brawl, this might be it. But wonder though, why does they avoid Shakur Stevenson as that might be an easier fight than this one. Probably for a bigger pay day, later on if the play fall into pieces, they will go after Shakur Stevenson as well. At least they have taken down the biggest hurdle and then Shakur will just be the icing in the cake for them as they will have majority of the belts by that time. As far as Reynoso goes, there could be argument that he is just overhype, the argument goes that it is still the boxer who performed inside the ring. Just like when Roach because the trainer of the year because of Pacquaio an several other good boxers in his stable. I may agree with this but i would sat that trainer plays a big role on a fight as he is the one studying the strength and weakness of the opponent and the boxer's job is just to focus on training. Manny Pacquaio is a one-handed fighter when he came to the Wild Card gym and coach Roach introduce to him the Manila Ice ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , which victimized Ricky Hatton lol. Bottom line, trainers are a big help to the career of the boxers, takes two to tango as they say. Definitely I agree with you on that, Manny was more on a slugger in a fight, but he slowly learn his way to fight with good defense and develop himself into a complete fighter. Some boxers only change trainer when they are already familiar with what to do in the fight, probably to lessened the experience but Manny did not do that to roach although he is not the lead coach now but he is still in the corner for Manny.
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February 10, 2021, 11:49:16 PM |
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Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days. I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion.
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This fight has a deep history. It goes beyond their career as a pro boxer to an amateur one. You guys should watch this documentary. I think I'm rooting for Valdez as he trains with Canelo's trainer and was superior in amateur boxing. The big downside is Valdez's jaw since he broke his jaw vs Scott Quigg.
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February 11, 2021, 09:38:09 PM |
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One thing that Oscar Valdez has is his coach, Eddie Reynoso, the man behind the success of Canelo Alvarez and Ryan Garcia, the trainer of the year. So Valdez is very confident that he can upset the champion because he has the best trainer in boxing right now. Maybe Reynoso has found some loophole on Berchelt (although this guy has no defense) that they can exploit. Good game plan + training hard = success. So let's see what surprise Valdez will do in the ring against a durable Berchelt.
This statement is backed by Top Rank honcho himself, Bob Arum. Bob Arum: Eddy Reynoso Sees Something In Berchelt That Valdez Can Exploit
Being the architect of this fight, he would do everything on his power to hype this fight and in fairness to him, boxing fans who love to see a brawl, this might be it. But wonder though, why does they avoid Shakur Stevenson as that might be an easier fight than this one. Probably for a bigger pay day, later on if the play fall into pieces, they will go after Shakur Stevenson as well. At least they have taken down the biggest hurdle and then Shakur will just be the icing in the cake for them as they will have majority of the belts by that time. As far as Reynoso goes, there could be argument that he is just overhype, the argument goes that it is still the boxer who performed inside the ring. Just like when Roach because the trainer of the year because of Pacquaio an several other good boxers in his stable. I may agree with this but i would sat that trainer plays a big role on a fight as he is the one studying the strength and weakness of the opponent and the boxer's job is just to focus on training. Manny Pacquaio is a one-handed fighter when he came to the Wild Card gym and coach Roach introduce to him the Manila Ice ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , which victimized Ricky Hatton lol. Bottom line, trainers are a big help to the career of the boxers, takes two to tango as they say. Yes mate, I agree with that, but we all know that there are haters around, discounting trainers or boxing coach. Roach introduce him the right now, that put Hatton and many others, even Miguel Cotto because they always underestimate and think that Manny has only the left hand. So let's see how he will develop Oscar Valdez because he is on a tough opposition against a bigger and stronger Miguel Berchelt.
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February 12, 2021, 12:30:32 AM |
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Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days. I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion. I think Oscar Valdez is good to go, his abs is visible in the images, so when he cut down to 130 lbs, there will be no significant effect on his body, in my opinion. Of course, Miguel Berchelt will be the bigger guy because this is his natural weight. But there are a lot of boxers going up in weight throughout boxing history that upset the champion so this is still 50:50 and it will definitely can go as one of the best fight for 2021.
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February 12, 2021, 09:06:47 AM |
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Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days. I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion. I think Oscar Valdez is good to go, his abs is visible in the images, so when he cut down to 130 lbs, there will be no significant effect on his body, in my opinion. Of course, Miguel Berchelt will be the bigger guy because this is his natural weight. But there are a lot of boxers going up in weight throughout boxing history that upset the champion so this is still 50:50 and it will definitely can go as one of the best fight for 2021. Agree, the thing we hear from Oscar Valdez is that he has the best trainer behind and although he is the underdog here, it could be good for him and his team as they could really be motivated to upset Miguel Berchelt, and odds are really very attractive for us gamblers. And as Oscar Valdez's body matures I think he will be a perfect fit for the 130 lbs division and it seems that squeezing 126 lbs will be much harder than losing the additional 6 lbs in this pre weight.
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February 12, 2021, 12:39:30 PM |
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Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days. I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion. I think Oscar Valdez is good to go, his abs is visible in the images, so when he cut down to 130 lbs, there will be no significant effect on his body, in my opinion. Of course, Miguel Berchelt will be the bigger guy because this is his natural weight. But there are a lot of boxers going up in weight throughout boxing history that upset the champion so this is still 50:50 and it will definitely can go as one of the best fight for 2021. Thinking of its chances as 50/50 makes me think of betting on the underdog. Oscar Valdez betting odds now is 3.55 according to the site I'm using now, https://www.playbetr.com/sports.
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February 12, 2021, 02:05:36 PM |
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Looking at Miguel Berchelt, looks like he is the more physically fit, after all he is the champion and definitely comfortable in this weight. Surprised though that Valdez is somewhat getting bigger and then he has to cut weight more weight in 14 days. I understand that he is coming up in weight and that is good, but it seems he overdo it. Anyway, I'm no expert here, just sharing my own opinion. I think Oscar Valdez is good to go, his abs is visible in the images, so when he cut down to 130 lbs, there will be no significant effect on his body, in my opinion. Of course, Miguel Berchelt will be the bigger guy because this is his natural weight. But there are a lot of boxers going up in weight throughout boxing history that upset the champion so this is still 50:50 and it will definitely can go as one of the best fight for 2021. Thinking of its chances as 50/50 makes me think of betting on the underdog. Oscar Valdez betting odds now is 3.55 according to the site I'm using now, https://www.playbetr.com/sports. That would be an upset if Valdez would win this fight. Good luck to the bettors who mostly see Oscar Valdez has a good chance because he is the undefeated here. I have no words to say yet but I might also try to play around, let's see, I'm observing the betting odds and see if there's some significant movement. By the way, don't forget this fight will be in less than 2 weeks now.
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Miguel Berchelt here has a good at the inside and I think this fight could be won by Miguel Berchelt by a stoppage I think that is a possibility Oscar Valdez even though he doesn't have any lost yet doesn't mean he is going to be undefeatable, But both have good combination and power on their strikes but I felt that Miguel Berchelt can surely win this, his NC record was a total win for him against Eleazar Valenzuela, Berchelt declared the winner by TKO and a most notable fight I think he ever made.
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February 12, 2021, 08:54:47 PM |
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That would be an upset if Valdez would win this fight. Good luck to the bettors who mostly see Oscar Valdez has a good chance because he is the undefeated here. I have no words to say yet but I might also try to play around, let's see, I'm observing the betting odds and see if there's some significant movement.
By the way, don't forget this fight will be in less than 2 weeks now.
This fight is very winnable for Valdez and if that happens, it is not an upset, in my opinion. Odd makers placing Valdez @3.45 vs Berchelt 1.27 at the moment which for is not that bad if you are betting for the defending champion, better than 1.01, the usual odds bookies give to the heavy favorite. One week before the fight, still no option on what to bet except for the ML atm but for sure many attractive odds will be placed 2 or 3 days before the fight.
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February 12, 2021, 10:05:32 PM |
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That would be an upset if Valdez would win this fight. Good luck to the bettors who mostly see Oscar Valdez has a good chance because he is the undefeated here. I have no words to say yet but I might also try to play around, let's see, I'm observing the betting odds and see if there's some significant movement.
By the way, don't forget this fight will be in less than 2 weeks now.
This fight is very winnable for Valdez and if that happens, it is not an upset, in my opinion. Odd makers placing Valdez @3.45 vs Berchelt 1.27 at the moment which for is not that bad if you are betting for the defending champion, better than 1.01, the usual odds bookies give to the heavy favorite. One week before the fight, still no option on what to bet except for the ML atm but for sure many attractive odds will be placed 2 or 3 days before the fight. There will be betting option for us that's for sure and it could be added by our favourite sportbookies as we get closer to the fight. @1.27 still good for those who love to go with the favourites, but again, you have to be a whale and bet big to get a decent profit for Berchelt. Yes, this is winnable for Valdez, and it's going to be exciting match. Still when you are the underdog and wins the fight, then technically it is called an upset. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 12, 2021, 10:17:26 PM |
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then technically it is called an upset. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight. Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma?William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog
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February 13, 2021, 01:26:56 AM |
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then technically it is called an upset. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight. Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma?William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog Could be, but that time though, Loma is pound for pound and one of the most recognisable name in boxing. And I would say that Miguel Berchelt is not as popular as Loma. But we all expecting a good fight here, probably more exciting that the Loma vs Lopez fight which is more technical. In this case, its two Mexican warrior/brawler who are going to want to knock each other out and as they say, every punch has bad intention.
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Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp: Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact.
BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application. https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner.
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February 16, 2021, 10:04:53 PM |
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Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp: Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact.
BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application. https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner. Just a minor glitch ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , anything not related to COVID-19 is not a problem nowadays lol. Fans don't want to see this fight being postpone once again. With regards to Miguel Berchelt, if he win this one he would be inching closer to break the record of another Mexican warrior, JCC Sr on the number of WBC Superfeatherweight Title defenses. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr got 9 while Miguel already got 6.
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February 16, 2021, 10:41:22 PM |
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then technically it is called an upset. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight. Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma?William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog Could be, but that time though, Loma is pound for pound and one of the most recognisable name in boxing. And I would say that Miguel Berchelt is not as popular as Loma. But we all expecting a good fight here, probably more exciting that the Loma vs Lopez fight which is more technical. In this case, its two Mexican warrior/brawler who are going to want to knock each other out and as they say, every punch has bad intention.I like those words, well, actually I've don't remember any games between mexicans that are boring, they are all warriors and they are good in entertaining the crowd, but there might be no crowd in this game because of covid-19, but still there are fans who will watch it live on their screen.
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February 17, 2021, 01:36:48 AM |
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then technically it is called an upset. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's really it, normal in any sports because our basis is the betting odds, however, upset happens all the time and it could happen in this fight. Can we compare this fight to the Lopez vs Loma?William Hill sportsbooks peg Lomachenko as a -450 favorite (risk $450 to win $100) in the latest Lomachenko vs. Lopez odds, with the American getting +350 (risk $100 to win $350) as the underdog Could be, but that time though, Loma is pound for pound and one of the most recognisable name in boxing. And I would say that Miguel Berchelt is not as popular as Loma. But we all expecting a good fight here, probably more exciting that the Loma vs Lopez fight which is more technical. In this case, its two Mexican warrior/brawler who are going to want to knock each other out and as they say, every punch has bad intention.I like those words, well, actually I've don't remember any games between mexicans that are boring, they are all warriors and they are good in entertaining the crowd, but there might be no crowd in this game because of covid-19, but still there are fans who will watch it live on their screen. Exactly, Mexicans are warriors inside the ring, and that's why Pacquiao was once called Mexican destroyer and earn a lot of respect not just from the Mexicans but almost all of the boxers up to this day. And for those who are not familiar, the lineage of great super featherweights in the last 15 years includes, Mexicans, JMM, Morales, Barrera and the legendary Manny Pacquiao.
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February 17, 2021, 02:10:48 AM |
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Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp: Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact.
BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application. https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner. Just a minor glitch ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , anything not related to COVID-19 is not a problem nowadays lol. Fans don't want to see this fight being postpone once again. With regards to Miguel Berchelt, if he win this one he would be inching closer to break the record of another Mexican warrior, JCC Sr on the number of WBC Superfeatherweight Title defenses. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr got 9 while Miguel already got 6. Yes, I think their lawyers can straighten things up and I'm sure he will be in the corner of Miguel fight night. And I don't think it will be postponed just because the main trainer is not there, they still have a lot in his corner though. It will be interesting if Miguel can break the record of JCC Sr if he did then he will be in the books as one of the greatest Super Featherweight champion in recent years.
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February 17, 2021, 07:56:57 PM |
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Just some minor issues on Miguel Berchelt's camp: Berchelt's Trainer, Caballero, Met With Delay Entering U.S. Due To Visa Issue At present moment, there is a chance that he could enter his upcoming WBC junior lightweight title defense without his full corner intact.
BoxingScene.com has learned that Alfredo Caballero, Berchelt’s longtime trainer has yet to make his way to the United States due to a discrepancy in his visa application. https://www.boxingscene.com/berchelt-trainer-caballero-met-with-delay-entering-us-due-visa-issue--155481I think psychologically it might affect Miguel's performance here if his head trainer can't make it on time for this big fight. But we do hope that Caballero can secure his Visa and enter the US, don't want to hear excuses if Miguel lost here and saying that he is stress out not seeing his trainer in his corner. Just a minor glitch ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , anything not related to COVID-19 is not a problem nowadays lol. Fans don't want to see this fight being postpone once again. With regards to Miguel Berchelt, if he win this one he would be inching closer to break the record of another Mexican warrior, JCC Sr on the number of WBC Superfeatherweight Title defenses. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr got 9 while Miguel already got 6. Not saying that it will be postponed again, but if Caballero can't secure his Visa and not enter the US fight night, it might create some mental problems with Miguel, hehehe. It will be great to see him breaking Julio Cezar Chavez Sr. record, and another record to remember is that our great Gabriel "Flash" Elorde was the first WBC champ in this division. So if everyone wanted to trace the lineage of WBC super featherweight, it will be Elorde and I think he holds the record as well for the longest title reign at 7 years.
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