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February 03, 2021, 02:11:38 PM
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Religion for the poor

This isn’t to say there aren’t reach or wealthy people in religion today but majority is what makes the difference. I say this with particular reference to the Christianity as a religion and I’m very much Christian with my religious beliefs and through the chaos in the world, many opportunist pastors has risen to take charge of the situation and the congregation in search of faith becomes the victims.
I write this out of long observed traits in the poor masses that flood various large and much room churches in all corners of the streets of Africa. How a religious person with contradicting belief/faith or with 6months of pastoral education or without any education at all turns a tiny apartment for a fasting/prayer house and it eventually grows to become a church! The pastor gets rich and richer with pot belly and rosy chicks while the members go thin and bony, always hoping on a spiritual figure for a break through. One question I always ask myself is,

Are there really need for all this many churches in all corners of our streets?
Does it really solve the problem of so many immoralities in our world as we see it today?

Religion of our time has become a one man business, where individuals attend churches based on the individual that stands on the podium with sight of what they hope could be gotten from the spiritual figure with no intent of in depth worship. There isn’t any better way to brain wash people other than religion. It uses your built in trust and faith in the pastor or religious leader, your desire to attract favors from the spiritual entity and the fact that your expected to believe completely without doubt against you. All of a sudden we have no value for time anymore, all attentions focused on a one man’s business, the religious figure head. It’s always about, going out to acquire and bring it to the house of the lord. The house of the lord that is always open to receive but short when it comes to giving out.

MY ANNOYANCE
I have a problem with the churches of our time and as much as it troubles me, I try not to let it affect my religious beliefs and faith in God. I have a friend with a troubled family essential need, not want but need that would be 3years if not solved by march 2021 and all it could take to solve it as at then (August, 2019) was just $1,000. It’s my intent to skip the detail but should anyone wish to hear the story, pm and I’ll tell it or at least produce evidence that it’s real and pressing. So, I asked that she takes the issue to her pastor in hope for assistance, maybe not all but even at least 1% of that would go a long way in building hope. Maybe not from the pastor but perhaps let the congregation know of it, maybe a philanthropist could do something or perhaps, conduct an offering to help. It was surprising what answer came off the pastors mouth “GOD WILL PROVIDE”. Very religious! but, they don't wait for God to provide when it's got to do with church business or pastors welfare. A fund raiser would be conducted immediately and in some instance, they even specify what an individual or a family is to pay. Despite her relationship with the pastor as a personal assistant, a cleaner in church, a chorister and is personally entitled to opening and closing the church when ever they’ve got activities of worship. She pays her tithes and participates actively in donations in her little way in church activities but couldn’t even merit an announcement. It’s a shame! My annoyance comes in terms of what is being thought in the churches, especially in this much room churches of Africa and a few other large churches. It’s always about,

GIVING
This is one of the chief topics that follow all summons of the churches because, it keeps the churches at the receiving end, not their/our neighbors but the church itself. It’s bad. Even the Holy Scriptures (Bible) will tell you that, when you give to the poor or less privileged on the street, you’ve given to God (Matthew  25:44).
Why is it that, you have to sow a seed (seed of faith) they call it, in the pastor’s life to get the most blessings?
Why is it that, the pastor’s children’s affairs should be funded from the churches treasury?
Why a church would accuse and condemn a man/woman to be fetish but accepts his/her money?
Even pastor’s airtime collections are being taken!
I once saw a church shot its gate to refugees from conflict rural communities in search for a few days of shelter. They sat and bath outside its walls for almost a week until the conflict was resolved.

ENEMIES
Christians have been made to feel they have enemies everywhere that hinders their progress.  Funny enough, they’ve got no idea whom their enemies are in essence; they’ve got no enemies at all. They fail to realize their only enemy is idleness and time management.

FAITH/BELIEF
The church pay more attention to preaching on abstract things as faith would always create in the individual the need not to doubt. Doubting and asking questions becomes a sin! Taking faith from the church would bring reasoning into the church and once that be the case, the result becomes chaos which isn’t favorable for business.

I expect churches to let their members know these truths,
1.   All that you could ever need has been provided by God, your left to explore the corners of the world, dominate and better your living through hard work.
2.   Manner doesn’t fall from heaven no more, what you sow is what you’ll reap.
3.   The world is every man for himself, if you’re assisted then, your fortunate and should be grateful but it’s got nothing to do with what you believe.
4.   Time is the most important thing that is, the greatest asset a man has and its irrevocable and as such should be invested wisely.

Most of the rich and wealthy people know this! This is why you can never see the rich in churches on work hours. It’s always the poor, seeking miracles and praying day after day for the enemies they don’t have. So religion became a thing of the poor!
In your pursuit for God and spirituality, don’t forget you have all you need less you be a religious poppet, like the rat in a rat race that has faith.
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February 03, 2021, 03:57:50 PM
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Interesting read.

I don't believe myself but I respect people who do a lot.

When you speak of the increasingly wealthy pastor, you have reminded me of the Protestant reformation, which was partially a matter of money. A rebellion against the opulence of the Papacy and its entire church. You seem to imply that the church today is a system that keeps the poor dumbed down without progress or rebellion, waiting for a miracle. That is not new, especially in the Middle Ages the church exercised brutal subjugation, lecturing people that they had to suffer in this life because God would reward them in the next. As a consequence, they did not rebel against the nobles or the church itself, despite the fact that they kept them in semi-slavery through hardship and laws such as the Droit du seigneur ('lord's right'), to deflower the girls of the plebeians when they reached adolescence or to have sex with the bride on the night of the wedding.
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February 03, 2021, 05:34:25 PM
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Religion is one of the successful business nowadays because people are ready to trust anything when it is tied with the name of their Gods and also people like when they see hate speech of other religion as well. God is the creator but what is our job actually! Being good to anyone you meet is a good quality of people's nature but when religion comes into the place they won't treat everyone same.

And poor people who are more trapped into the religion politics because they are vast in nature and they can be used to manipulate easily as their leader wants to so they are the targets of these religion traps.
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February 03, 2021, 09:34:27 PM
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With all this being said and for religion to be continually evolving, it simply means, there is no perfect religion. We hear it's almost 2000years ago and sometimes the years that dates a doctrine comes with a suffix BC or AD (Before Christ or After Death) and so o and as such, the doctrines are being edited up to this moment making Religion more of a man made thing than any divine intervention for most religious figure hard. It's only painted to suit the church and that's all.

This goals a long way to tell you that, it's always going to be about what you believe. In all you hope to archive, make your plans, put in the work and you shall archive them. Let no one deceive you any further.
Not all who attends tertiary institutions and comes off with a professional degree certificate is really a professional. It's always easy to go through school without the school going through you but, this isn't often the case with Church ministers and figure head. They all go through the theological classes and instantly manifest a higher power and anointing, is this always so...
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February 05, 2021, 03:01:12 AM
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It was surprising what answer came off the pastors mouth “GOD WILL PROVIDE”. Very religious! but, they don't wait for God to provide when it's got to do with church business or pastors welfare. A fund raiser would be conducted immediately and in some instance, they even specify what an individual or a family is to pay.

i would say their hypocrisy is clear.. or maybe it should be hope-ocrisy.

religion began as the moral compass and the basis of civil law (citizens laws) with the bishops/priests as the government leaders/lawmakers of the time.
the use of a mythical being(god) or historic actor(jesus) in the books teaches citizens to think that these entities are the blames and credits of the religious laws. so that priests/bishops cant be blamed.

when priests/bishops wanted things from citizens. they said jesus/god wants it.. but the priests/bishops then spent it. and when the citizens wanted something. if the bishops decided they can help they would help but say jesus/god provided(even though it was bishop/priest hoarded) and if they didnt want to provide it they would say 'wait for jesus/god' to provide. hoping people realise that they wont get it. and only blame god/jesus. not the priest/bishop

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modern government try this same game
the 'senate' or 'parliament' pretends to be its own entity. separate from the physical people known as senators/members of parliament
even though the reality is that its the senators/MP that are the rule makers
(note when senators/mp's talkabout the senate/parliament in the third person to shift blame off them personally)

they are happy to get personal about needing people to pay tax. very quick to put their name against a bill to 'fund government' but they always hide behind 'senate' 'congress' 'parliament' third person entity when people want things from government.

their game is great
phone up a senator/mp and ask him for something.. reply:'wait for my office/department to give you an answer' that way its not deemed as the senator/mp directly saying no
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February 07, 2021, 06:07:30 PM
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Christians have been made to feel they have enemies everywhere that hinders their progress.


The exact terminology i believe is that they have been made to believe that they have "spiritual" enemies that have sworn that they will never be successful in life. Lol, This is the exact reason why many spend hours in churches and religious crusades praying for someone to die somewhere and release their wealth, or for some supernatural force to propel them into unending wealth. The reality of things is that if they spend time perhaps saying a different kind of prayer, the one that is for assistance in whatever endeavour and then back it up with hard work it will bring them better solutions and financial results.
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February 07, 2021, 06:28:20 PM
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its very simple
the rich get rich by acting for themselves to get money from other people who need things provided for them.

but religion pushes a mantra that people should be patient and wait to be provided things by some entity they cant touch. and to trust that someday if you are patient and a 'giving' person. you will get things back in return


in short. if you give away your money. maybe just maybe you might get something worthy in return. so give away things an wait and hope

religion is the complete opposite of capitalism
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February 12, 2021, 12:48:00 PM
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its very simple
the rich get rich by acting for themselves to get money from other people who need things provided for them.
Very simple! This is why the rich continues to stay ahead in wealth and poverty seems hereditary to some individuals and their linage and they believe in causes. Bill gate once said, If you are born poor, it isn't your fault but should you die poor, its your fault. How do you escape this, by working it out. Through unnecessary gatherings lots of persons have been made to accept poverty and hope for a change by waiting patiently doing nothing. No wonder the rich that can afford get their kids home schooled so they are thought the secrets to achievements and ways to wealth.

but religion pushes a mantra that people should be patient and wait to be provided things by some entity they cant touch. and to trust that someday if you are patient and a 'giving' person. you will get things back in return

in short. if you give away your money. maybe just maybe you might get something worthy in return. so give away things an wait and hope
religion is the complete opposite of capitalism
One thing the poor fail to understand is that, times has changed, the era of the Druids and magic are gone, its only natural that you change with it our get broken by it. The fact that a lot of persons have gone to the dirt while patiently waiting should send a message but still, there is always message the effect and no questions is asked! It almost feel as though they never imagine themselves in the situation, washed brains.
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January 26, 2023, 10:53:51 AM
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Religion is a beacon of Hope for those who are lost or have nothing,

 it gives them a sense of belonging and make them to dream again and aspire for greater glory,
 
A man without hope is either dead or a living dead,  so religion gives hope to the hopeless .
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January 26, 2023, 01:01:55 PM
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Religion has been an important part of human culture for thousands of years and has been practiced by people from all walks of life. However, throughout history, religion has often been particularly important to marginalized and disadvantaged groups, including the poor.

One reason for this is that religion can provide a sense of community and belonging for people who may feel isolated or disconnected from society. It can also offer hope and comfort in times of hardship and uncertainty. In many societies, religious institutions such as churches, temples, or mosques, have provided support and assistance to those in need.

Another reason is that poverty can lead to a lack of access to education, healthcare, and other basic needs. Religion can provide an alternative source of support and guidance.

Additionally, religion can also be a way for people to make sense of and cope with the suffering and injustice that can be a part of the experience of poverty. It can offer explanations for why people are poor, and provide a sense of purpose and meaning in difficult circumstances.

It's important to note that this is not a universally applicable statement and the relationship between poverty and religion is complex. Religion has been used in different ways throughout history, and can have different meanings and implications in different cultures and societies.
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January 28, 2023, 09:33:22 PM
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basically poverty is one that makes one's faith in religion easily shaken due to circumstances but for those who are determined for their faith will give a revelation from this poverty.
whereas the rich prefer to prioritize their power over the world and the environment around them so that their faith sometimes needs to be questioned, it's just that when they don't get prosperity and peace of mind from what they have, here they will return to their religion
so believe what we have to believe religiously
whatever it is at the moment
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February 19, 2023, 06:48:39 PM
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Religion has been used in different ways throughout history, and can have different meanings and implications in different cultures and societies.

You're right. And here is one example.
The Crusades, which were blessed by the "holy fathers" of the Christian church, are a clear example of religious manipulation for political and economic purposes. The campaigns were justified by religious fervor to reclaim the Holy Land, but in reality, they were driven by a desire for power and control.

The Crusades were responsible for immense brutality and violence, which is in direct conflict with the commandment "Do not kill" and the principle of "Love your neighbor." This kind of manipulation of religion is not a new phenomenon, as history shows us that those in power and the wealthy often use religion to control the masses.

Unfortunately, this trend still persists in our modern world. Religious extremism, terrorism, and discrimination are just a few examples of how religion is manipulated to serve the interests of the powerful and wealthy.
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March 02, 2023, 07:51:09 AM
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, this is a good read. Although I don't really criticize people for their choices and their religions, it couldn't be ignored that slowly and slowly some religions are built like schemes. I am not that good when it comes to being religious, but it's also not funny seeing people that are devoted acting like cult members for their religion and without knowing they are being milked. Forgive me for my somewhat rude remarks.
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March 02, 2023, 05:45:39 PM
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It takes incredible hard work and determination to make it to the top in this world. Some get lucky, but it will always require 'proof of work' to get ahead for majority of humans born.

Religion gives people hope. Without religion, less people would try to leave a legacy.
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