The gambling black market thrives in Britain

[fiulpro]

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ? But what do we think about Britain? In the Britain the black market gambling have more than just doubled , which is a matter of concern for everyone and not just the government.

-Despite having Gambling as a controlled legal sport the black market continues to flourish. WHY ?
What are your opinions?

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/11001/new-bgc-research-shows-number-of-customers-using-black-market-sites-has-more-than-doubled

Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

I do think the government needs to actually look forth for their licensing policies they time and again force the small gambling companies to shut off their business but at the same time doing it illegally doesn't make it any less of a crime.

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

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[dunfida]

What are your thoughts ?

This will exist no matter what and for those who had been restricted or prohibited are mostly the ones who had been ending up on this path.

Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

None and wont ever tend to do so if you do like to save up your ass into a trouble then its better to stick with legal ones.Even though it isnt really that perfect
or the game you've been looking for isnt there then you can always have the chance to look for another.

[AmoreJaz]

What are your thoughts ?

This will exist no matter what and for those who had been restricted or prohibited are mostly the ones who had been ending up on this path.

Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

None and wont ever tend to do so if you do like to save up your ass into a trouble then its better to stick with legal ones.Even though it isnt really that perfect
or the game you've been looking for isnt there then you can always have the chance to look for another.

gambling in black market will always prevail, not only in britain but other parts of the world.
havent tried playing in the black market and has no plans to do so. why risk yourself into this activity when you can easily sign up for online casino these days? so guess waht? for most forum users, betting in the black market is not a choice for them. we actually have a lot of options here.

[DarkDays]

None and wont ever tend to do so if you do like to save up your ass into a trouble then its better to stick with legal ones.

There is hardly enough evidence to believe that the black gambling market in Britain is grown to such a threatening size...

Anyways, with my suspensions aside, I agree with the above and I do not see a need to use black market gambling, it would only lead to too much trouble. Instead, I recommend people who are considering this idea to stick to the legal casinos. The risk otherwise is too high and not worth it- at least, in my opinion.

[Wexnident]

Even if I wanted to, I couldn't since I had no bloody idea how to enter it. And well, there would always be people who would want to be in a market that agrees with all of their conditions, no matter the cost. Legal casinos still have their rules and all, after all, not to mention that some of them force others to compromise (banned issues, often solved by money). Sides, black market gambling can possibly involve multiple dealings, plus meetings with others in the related trade. Just like how normal casinos have those kinds of social interactions, I guess the black market also has its own.

If given the chance, I'd really like to explore the black market, but it'd only be limited to that, exploration. I have no plans to join them with whatever deals they are doing.

[Xinarae*]

The threat of gambling black market in Britain has increased a lot its black market is spreading in many countries of the world which is a threat to many countries that's why the police are usually conducting raids on casino games. However, it may take time to close this black market opportunity because all online betting is going on now gamblers place bets on individual situations from time to time. The role of gamblers became like that of black marketeers sometimes the betting horse overturns on the field. Then the hands fell on the heads of the gamblers but security guards are wary of gamblers.

[maydna]

I never tried gambling in the black market because the impact will be painful if we get caught by the police. They will punish people who bet on the black market, and there could get jail forever. But I am sure a black market exists in many countries since gambling can attract many people to test their luck.

I don't think that the new variant of Covid in the UK is just because of illegal gambling or the black market, but we should search from the other places to find where the spread. The government can use a strict rule to any company with a crowd, whether it is employee or customer, because that is one thing from many factors the spread of the virus will attack them.

[iamsheikhadil]

There are bad sides in everything everywhere in the world and no matter what the government does, there will still remain such places which offers illegal betting. For most gambling addicts, they are actually addicted to the process of gambling and not the money, and if they can achieve it through normal and legal betting, they wouldn't chase black market ones. I would never get myself involved in such markets, I'm even trying to quit legal gambling ones because of my addiction

[imstillthebest]

I don't think that the new variant of Covid in the UK is just because of illegal gambling or the black market, but we should search from the other places to find where the spread. The government can use a strict rule to any company with a crowd, whether it is employee or customer, because that is one thing from many factors the spread of the virus will attack them.

no.gambling isnt the cause for covid to appear in the uk but covid spreads naturally .
 theres already covid cases on all countries including in the uk  .
uk was in the countries where new covid variation has spotted and illegal gambling may fasten the spread of this new deadly virus but if the govermments can react now and starts to hunt illegal gambling they can save more lives . for legal gambling , they are organized and can operate contiously because the government can easily regulate them

[Mauser]

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

I never tried gambling in the black market. Illegal stuff is just not for me, I can't relax and always think the police is going to come any second. One time I used one of the illegal Cabs in London and instantly got caught by the cops. In my opinion the rise of the black market in the gambling industry might also be due to the corona pandemic, unfortunately most casinos were closed during the lockdown. Once life is going back to normal I would expect most people to switch from the black market casinos to the regular ones again.

[Jating]

Been betting underground for many years now, horse racing, lottery, local basketball games, cock fighting, you name it, been there done that. Actually just like week, some of my friends are caught red handed in a cock fight, luckily I didn't go with them. Only one was able to run, the rest are caught.

My thoughts is that the government can't prevent it, will be cat and mouse game. And gamblers will continue to do illegal stuff, just saying.

[Ucy]

The link you posted seems to be talking about gambling that happens online rather than physically, or no?
I wonder what connection that has with the pandemic, or are they gathering physical to bet online?
According to the website you posted:

The number of British gamblers using black market websites has more than doubled, according to new research carried out by the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC).

I wonder exactly what the government is worried about... Is it worried about:
1. Citizens using Unregulated Betting sites
2. Citizens getting exposed to *very risky/unsafe bettings* or gambling
3. Or is worried about other betting sites taking its market share.?
I guess the government maybe worried about the three. I think it's important the government worries more about the citizens getting exposed to unsafe betting industry.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I guess it's not only Britain, but in the rest of the world black market is really thriving whether we have the pandemic or not. It just magnify today because of the current situations as most land base casinos or any other form of legal gambling is close. And as the saying goes, gamblers will be gamblers so they are going to create ways to continue for vices and black market is the most logical choice for them/us.

[swogerino]

I am surprised Britain as a developed country has problems with the black market.Where I live now the government has restricted sport betting  and local casinos together with a repression reform by blocking the most well known online casinos by ordering all ISP-s to blacklist those sites.However this has translated in an increased black market,almost in every coffee or bar which used to have sport betting people are playing with their phones.The owner of the shop has an account in bet365 for example which he access through proxies and people give money to him for their bets for example they say 5 usd for Juventus to win and give him 5 usd while he sends them a print screen of their bet.

What I want to say with the thorough example above is you cannot stop gambling or the black market no matter what you do.

[slaman29]

We sort of do it all the time in Asia I guess. But it is not like in movies where you go place bets with dirty guys smoking and all that, it is usually just sms to a number, they take your bet and you just pay with mobile money:)

Small time people do it part time all the time. Offer better odds or no fees (gambling here takes 15% entertainment tax).

[acroman08]

What are your thoughts ?

not surprising especially iht everyone stuck up at home for months because of covid. we are in an era where technology is a part of our daily life and the younger generation who are born in it are starting to grow up and other people adapting to it. information is free and can reach almost anyone may it be legal or illegal. I wouldn't be surprised if the count of people using an online black market double in the next two years.

Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

online? no. physically? does unlicensed gambling casino near your area count as black market gambling? if it does count then yes but that was years ago and I only played out of curiosity.

[just_Alice]

Sounds risky at first, but now that I think of it, how do you actually distinguish between legalized and illegal gambling websites? I mean, do any of you actually try and search if a certain website legal in your country or not? It's not like you enter a website and it tells you that it's a black market website, right? For instance, in my country gambling itself has only been legalized a few months ago (due to endemic-induced economic crisis, I guess) and there are very few websites offered by the government, and they all suck. Does this mean that if I use any other websites (that might be legal in other countries, but not in mine) - I gamble in the black market?

[kryptqnick]

I agree with just_Alice on this one. Of course, when you're going into some storage room in a nightclub to play poker or to place bets, you can be pretty sure and aware that it's illegal. But when you're betting online and trying out a new website, you might accidentally play illegally because of not knowing the specifics of your country's regulations or of the license that a casino has. All in all, I think the governments should make reasonable regulations of gambling, so that casinos are encouraged to operate legally and people feel encouraged to use these casinos.

[Lucius]

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ?

Since I’ve always had sports bookmakers on virtually every corner quite legally (and so it is today), I’ve never had the need to look for an illegal way to make sports bets - and honestly I haven’t even heard anyone talk about it.

I guess people are going in the direction of the black market because the odds are higher and there are no taxes - which in the case of a positive outcome for the player brings higher earnings. Perhaps one of the reasons is that the black market also allows some sports that cannot be found in the legal offer.

[robelneo]

Not only in Britain, but there are also a lot of countries with a share of the gambling black market, and it continues to thrive because the rules are not bound by government rules or restriction, gambling operators and gamblers like this because they can do anything they want, illegal drugs and gambling black market are connected to each other and they both thrive in these environments.
I have not played on this kind of gambling site and I don't think I can play, because of the existence of drugs.

[fiulpro]

What are your thoughts ?

This will exist no matter what and for those who had been restricted or prohibited are mostly the ones who had been ending up on this path.

Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

None and wont ever tend to do so if you do like to save up your ass into a trouble then its better to stick with legal ones.Even though it isnt really that perfect
or the game you've been looking for isnt there then you can always have the chance to look for another.

Haha yeah ofc I do not think that I will ever try that for sure. There are far too many games around and literally a lot of platforms so you can easily find whatever you are looking for.

Even if I wanted to, I couldn't since I had no bloody idea how to enter it. And well, there would always be people who would want to be in a market that agrees with all of their conditions, no matter the cost. Legal casinos still have their rules and all, after all, not to mention that some of them force others to compromise (banned issues, often solved by money). Sides, black market gambling can possibly involve multiple dealings, plus meetings with others in the related trade. Just like how normal casinos have those kinds of social interactions, I guess the black market also has its own.

If given the chance, I'd really like to explore the black market, but it'd only be limited to that, exploration. I have no plans to join them with whatever deals they are doing.

I would say it depends where you live , if you have no idea just leave it aside 🤣 , be like a sane person and just order piranhas from the dark web 🕸️ , that's the most action that you should get into. In the black market money extortion is a big thing therefore until and unless you think you can handle it then you should not touch this section.

Or roam around in the most fishy neighbor or even be the bookie for the bets v.v this way you don't have a license but ur gambling ( ask your friends and family around lol)

I think that would work much.

..... where I am from there the gambling is banned but you can easily find bookies and places to gamble at every corner.

[abel1337]

A black market is hard to take down in reality because of its big backers and even though the government tries to seize it, It won't be eliminated. It's also true that other illegal activities are connected to it. I personally haven't experienced gambling in a black market and I don't have a plan to be playing at it. Gambling is accessible in our country and adding to that is there are online casinos out there, so why would I risk my life playing on it just to avoid some fees.

[madnessteat]

Illegal gambling has always existed and I am not at all surprised by the growth of the black gambling market in Britain during the pandemic because people are tired of isolation, forced social distance and longing for real communication. I am sure that once all restrictions are lifted the black market will go down.

[ene1980]

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ? But what do we think about Britain? In the Britain the black market gambling have more than just doubled , which is a matter of concern for everyone and not just the government.

I am not too keen on getting into trouble but i usually do not check all the gambling sites whether they are legal or not. If the illegal gambling black market is said about physical ones then i never tried my luck there, but if there are online sites, i usually do not check whether they are running legally or not and any government can term them illegal gambling houses if they are not registered with them. All i look is whether the site can be trusted and if anyone trust these gambling houses irrespective of the endorsement from the government i do not see a problem  .

[Twentyonepaylots]

Wow, never really heard or known that such a thing is becoming more rampant in the UK, my question is, what is the government there doing about it? How has it gone to major scales if it's being taken care of by their Government? And what will their plans be in the future knowing that syndications like this will continue to grow if no new tactics or approach is given?

[shoreno]

Illegal gambling has always existed and I am not at all surprised by the growth of the black gambling market in Britain during the pandemic because people are tired of isolation, forced social distance and longing for real communication. I am sure that once all restrictions are lifted the black market will go down.

if they will only wait and stick on the uncomfortable routine for a while , the recovery of covid 19 can speed up and they can soon go back playing in phyical casinos but the problem is they cant wait . they still try to gamble illegaly making the covid 19 spread more and longer to cure .

 if they will continue like this , they are only going to suffer at the end but we that are fine with online gambling we dont have any complaints anymore  .

[dothebeats]

Most illegal bookmakers and gambling providers that I've met still have the sense of decency to not allow minors to play on their platform. One reason I see why that's the case is because minors tend to get so cocky about their wins and brag about it, resulting into them possibly telling that there is an illegal gambling platform that exists which could lead to the operators getting busted. We do have our fair share of illegal gambling operators on my side of the globe and that's their reasoning why minors aren't allowed to gamble.

For Britain's problem re: gambling black market, I think this is because of the continuous lockdowns and people are trying to get a hold of their gambling fix on places that would allow them to play. There exists online casinos, yes, but there are still some people more comfortable in playing in physical casinos rather than play online, and that's understandable. The situation of COVID-19 in Britain hasn't gone for the better in recent times, and people are really tired of the lockdowns and establishments being closed, hence the need for alternative--yet illegal--places to go ignoring the health and safety protocols imposed by the government.

[Saint-loup]

Most illegal bookmakers and gambling providers that I've met still have the sense of decency to not allow minors to play on their platform. One reason I see why that's the case is because minors tend to get so cocky about their wins and brag about it, resulting into them possibly telling that there is an illegal gambling platform that exists which could lead to the operators getting busted. We do have our fair share of illegal gambling operators on my side of the globe and that's their reasoning why minors aren't allowed to gamble.

For Britain's problem re: gambling black market, I think this is because of the continuous lockdowns and people are trying to get a hold of their gambling fix on places that would allow them to play. There exists online casinos, yes, but there are still some people more comfortable in playing in physical casinos rather than play online, and that's understandable. The situation of COVID-19 in Britain hasn't gone for the better in recent times, and people are really tired of the lockdowns and establishments being closed, hence the need for alternative--yet illegal--places to go ignoring the health and safety protocols imposed by the government.

Physical casinos? The link of the OP isn't talking about that, it deals with blacket market ONLINE casinos ...
you don't need to write such long posts if it's off-topic bro LOL  

[Vaskiy]

When the gamblers have got legitimate and provably fair platforms why they're looking for such places. With all forms of business there'll be alternate opportunities. I find this black market based gambling as one of the opportunity for the gamblers. With all efforts from government it can be restricted, can't be abolished completely.

Everything is business, someone could've benefitted through this manner. This could've been shared with the one close to him. He starts the service and when there is profit automatically more people will come forward to provide these services taking risks. This also a big reason for the strengthening of these kind of gambling.

[Hippocrypto]

Illegal gambling has always existed and I am not at all surprised by the growth of the black gambling market in Britain during the pandemic because people are tired of isolation, forced social distance and longing for real communication. I am sure that once all restrictions are lifted the black market will go down.

There could be a negative effect to underground gambling activities as well as back market in Britain. But the use of cryptocurrency will still exist in most gambling players, because they get used to it due to convenience and fast transactions. Unlike the traditional fiat used at local gambling site casino, it's transparent to strangers whom able to see you.
If there's a possibility that black market will go down, I think they won't stop and still find more ways to run their operations.

[FlightyPouch]

Illegal gambling has always existed and I am not at all surprised by the growth of the black gambling market in Britain during the pandemic because people are tired of isolation, forced social distance and longing for real communication. I am sure that once all restrictions are lifted the black market will go down.

That might be a case but since we are still in the pandemic and we will be dealing with this for a long period of time, there might be those gamblers that would be used to this activity. A lot of gamblers are longing for this as you've said and I think the longer this pandemic happens, the longer they will gamble in this market, the more they will be used to it.

[Darker45]

I have gambled in the black market countless of times. Black market gambling in this part of the world is strongly prevalent, although I would say that Britain's black gambling market is definitely different from ours.

I cannot tell for sure the real situation in Britain, but what I can probably say is that the gambling black market in Britain might not be characterized with poverty. From where I am speaking, depressed areas are places where illegal gambling thrives. Many of these illegal gambling games are often preying on the poor who are actually much heavier gamblers than the rich in terms of income and gambling expenses ratio.

[Alucard1]

I haven't tried to gamble in a black market and can not tell what is inside of it but as what I have heard from others it is illegal, I don't know why the black market keeps on growing even though it is illegal, the government should do something to avoid it especially with this current situation wherein the virus is still not over. For sure the black market does not have such hard restrictions in terms of health, that is why the possibility of spreading the virus will also increase, that should be given action by the government.

[Shasha80]

In my opinion, the black market gambling not only growing in England. But in some countries where gambling activities are prohibited, there is
always black market gambling. And in my country the government indeed prohibits gambling activity in any form, so some gambling addicts who
don't have the money to go to a country where playing gambling is legal, prefer to play the Black market gambling. I never wanted to be in trouble
with the police so avoid playing the black market gambling, I prefer to play online gambling using a VPN.

[maydna]

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no.gambling isnt the cause for covid to appear in the uk but covid spreads naturally .
 theres already covid cases on all countries including in the uk  .
uk was in the countries where new covid variation has spotted and illegal gambling may fasten the spread of this new deadly virus but if the govermments can react now and starts to hunt illegal gambling they can save more lives . for legal gambling , they are organized and can operate contiously because the government can easily regulate them

I hope the UK can reduce the new case. I think for legal gambling, they can cooperate with the owner to control the spreading. I hope the government can make strict every place that usually has a crowd to save more lives. I don't follow what happens to the UK, but I hope everything can under control by the government.

Where gambling is legal there are other side of it and that's illegal black market gambling because this is open and unrestricted, ultra gamblers and risk takers wants a place where there are no presence of authorities or they are not bound by any laws, sometimes this place is where drug dealers and illegal transaction occur, because they are protected and they pay for their protection.

The drug dealers and the other people who have an illegal business can play on illegal gambling in a hidden place because they don't have to bond to some laws except the gambling place. They can make a deal too on that place, so the illegal gambling will help them transact with the other. But if that spreads more new Covid variant cases, I think the illegal gambling must warn them because the owner doesn't want to see their place get raided by the government.

[Cling18]

I have never tried doing any illegal form of gambling such as black market gambling which involves lots of prohibited things like illegal drugs. I think one of the reasons why there are underground gambling is because of the inexistence of legal gambling in their country. The government should do something to stop underground gambling because it could affect even innocent people when they spread the COVID virus but they should also do something about the legalization of gambling in their country because if not, illegal activities like this would still continue because gamblers will always find ways to gamble.

[South Park]

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ? But what do we think about Britain? In the Britain the black market gambling have more than just doubled , which is a matter of concern for everyone and not just the government.

-Despite having Gambling as a controlled legal sport the black market continues to flourish. WHY ?
What are your opinions?

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/11001/new-bgc-research-shows-number-of-customers-using-black-market-sites-has-more-than-doubled

Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

I do think the government needs to actually look forth for their licensing policies they time and again force the small gambling companies to shut off their business but at the same time doing it illegally doesn't make it any less of a crime.

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

It is easy to see why there is a black market for gambling, casinos are heavily taxed and while they can still earn great profits out of it many people prefer to open illegal casinos and get more profits that way, but then why customers use illegal casinos? One answer is that they do not know they are using an illegal casino, but another option is that since the casino is not paying taxes they could offer better odds to their customers and they prefer to use such casino despite its illegal nature.

[iv4n]

In my opinion, the black market gambling not only growing in England. But in some countries where gambling activities are prohibited, there is
always black market gambling. And in my country the government indeed prohibits gambling activity in any form, so some gambling addicts who
don't have the money to go to a country where playing gambling is legal, prefer to play the Black market gambling. I never wanted to be in trouble
with the police so avoid playing the black market gambling, I prefer to play online gambling using a VPN.

I think a week ago (or a bit more) we had a thread about illegal gambling in Thailand! I researched that topic and found out what's happening there... maybe two days ago in my local newspaper I saw they busted 3 houses where some people organized illegal gambling activities, all 3 houses are closed! Now we read about black market in Britain...
So you are right Shasha, it's happening around the world, and probably these illegal casinos are for people on the margins, outcasts of any kind... people who don't like to go to fancy legal houses, or they can't go there, or simply they don't think they have enough money to play in legal casinos... Whatever the case is this illegal casinos exist, and as it looks like governments can't do anything about it!

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I have gambled in the black market countless of times. Black market gambling in this part of the world is strongly prevalent, although I would say that Britain's black gambling market is definitely different from ours.

I cannot tell for sure the real situation in Britain, but what I can probably say is that the gambling black market in Britain might not be characterized with poverty. From where I am speaking, depressed areas are places where illegal gambling thrives. Many of these illegal gambling games are often preying on the poor who are actually much heavier gamblers than the rich in terms of income and gambling expenses ratio.

I agree, black market gambling thrives in a poor country, I guess this is a way to past their time or just simply wanted to gamble for a quick money. And I would say that in Asia, it is prevalent as government lack of control and corruption is still the main reason why this underground gambling continues. And then we have corruption, most of the time the elected officials like the Mayors and Governors are the one protecting this illegal bookies. But I don't think that is applicable to Great Britain.

[RealMalatesta]

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ?

I have used "black market" gambling in a sort of way, I gamble on crypto sportsbooks and thats not allowed in my nation, we already have sportsbooks that are legal here but their odds are nowhere near the same, they are very very bad, and they are not paying good for both sides as well, if it was just favorites with lower odds but underdogs higher odds I would understand but they are paying low odds for both sides and even the draw.

So, I do gamble on black market because places that are legit and allowed screws you over with the odds and do not pay you great deal of profit, which is why I think it is obvious that we are in a situation where black markets are a better option to gamble than real sportsbooks. Even if a place that we all love in black market ends up getting a legit license, they turn to being worse, so basically being licensed and legit makes a place worse.

[Taskford]

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ? But what do we think about Britain? In the Britain the black market gambling have more than just doubled , which is a matter of concern for everyone and not just the government.

-Despite having Gambling as a controlled legal sport the black market continues to flourish. WHY ?
What are your opinions?

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/11001/new-bgc-research-shows-number-of-customers-using-black-market-sites-has-more-than-doubled

Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

I do think the government needs to actually look forth for their licensing policies they time and again force the small gambling companies to shut off their business but at the same time doing it illegally doesn't make it any less of a crime.

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

It is easy to see why there is a black market for gambling, casinos are heavily taxed and while they can still earn great profits out of it many people prefer to open illegal casinos and get more profits that way, but then why customers use illegal casinos? One answer is that they do not know they are using an illegal casino, but another option is that since the casino is not paying taxes they could offer better odds to their customers and they prefer to use such casino despite its illegal nature.

Its hard to digest that statement that they didn't know if the casino is illegal since they can always do a certain verification to know if they are dealing with legal and not, But what I think many people choose to play in black market gambling is due to restrictions what legal have also people want anonymity as well some of  black market casino is so exciting to play especially if we know the risk and how the play executed.

[slaman29]

So, I do gamble on black market because places that are legit and allowed screws you over with the odds and do not pay you great deal of profit, which is why I think it is obvious that we are in a situation where black markets are a better option to gamble than real sportsbooks. Even if a place that we all love in black market ends up getting a legit license, they turn to being worse, so basically being licensed and legit makes a place worse.

I think the tradeoff in black market is you can also get screwed over by no payouts, or arbitrary rules that you can't complain over. I know you're probably in Asia like most of us, so actually before bitcoin came along we all had to use black market bookies;)

It's cost saving and time saving, but I never feel comfortable paying a lot in case something goes wrong.

[maydna]

I think the tradeoff in black market is you can also get screwed over by no payouts, or arbitrary rules that you can't complain over. I know you're probably in Asia like most of us, so actually before bitcoin came along we all had to use black market bookies;)

It's cost saving and time saving, but I never feel comfortable paying a lot in case something goes wrong.

The black market bookies are available in many countries, but that is not exposed to the public, and only some people know about the place that playing gambling on that place. Perhaps, that is the consequences for people who use the black market bookies to trade or gambling. Even after bitcoin came along, the black market bookies will still available because some people feel comfortable placing their bet on that service. They can accept the rule from that bookies, and even if they don't have a chance to win, they still come to play gambling.

[Wexnident]

I have used "black market" gambling in a sort of way, I gamble on crypto sportsbooks and thats not allowed in my nation, we already have sportsbooks that are legal here but their odds are nowhere near the same, they are very very bad, and they are not paying good for both sides as well, if it was just favorites with lower odds but underdogs higher odds I would understand but they are paying low odds for both sides and even the draw.

So, I do gamble on black market because places that are legit and allowed screws you over with the odds and do not pay you great deal of profit, which is why I think it is obvious that we are in a situation where black markets are a better option to gamble than real sportsbooks. Even if a place that we all love in black market ends up getting a legit license, they turn to being worse, so basically being licensed and legit makes a place worse.

I don't think that counts as a black market gambling, more like illegal gambling. Though they can be said to be the same, your case was that it was illegal in your country, afaik black market gambling is illegal in ALL countries. They don't have strict identity rules and what not, and only follow internal rules set up by the private organization behind that industry. I do have to agree though, casinos would sometimes just simply screw up your payments from time to time without reason, and even talking to their support at times wouldn't really provide anything substantial to fix the problem. Idk how the black market works with their service, though I'd reckon they follow the rules they set properly so as to avoid too much communication with customers.

[vintages]

Black market gambling will always be around and not only in Britain but every where. Why? Cause some people enjoy it cause of the free will to do anything.

One way the government can reduce it since its inevitable to take it down completely it is to regulate the gambling industry with this some people won't think of the black market.

And no, I would never try the gambling black market, that is too much risk.

[plr]

Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

These three is enough reason to shut down these gambling black market, the black market is always associated to something bad and illegal and if this is the reason why there is a spread of CoVid then it's enough reason to do a drastic action.

[Mauser]

Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

These three is enough reason to shut down these gambling black market, the black market is always associated to something bad and illegal and if this is the reason why there is a spread of CoVid then it's enough reason to do a drastic action.

I would expect the authorities are working hard to do so. Black markets are always hurting the government because no taxes are collected. And it probably going to be very hard to keep these black casinos a secret. Once people start losing a lot of money they might feel cheated and will report the casino to the government. Also there is no real protection for the gamblers, I wouldn't risk my money on one of these places.

[Saisher]

I would expect the authorities are working hard to do so. Black markets are always hurting the government because no taxes are collected. And it probably going to be very hard to keep these black casinos a secret. Once people start losing a lot of money they might feel cheated and will report the casino to the government. Also there is no real protection for the gamblers, I wouldn't risk my money on one of these places.

These underground gambling sites are just hub or cover for illegal drugs, prostitution and even gun running only people with bad reputation are going to these places to transact, if you have a good name to protect better not play here or even go here out of curiosity, every country have this kind of activity not only in Britain.

[crzy]

I've tried gambling on a black market before, where Fruit game or a slot machine in my place are scattered all over the area but since the authorities are doing their job to arrest those illegal gambling, I decided to stop playing and don't want to put myself on a bigger risk. Anyway, I just read the news about Thailand hunting the illegal gamblers and now its on Britain, looks like the authority really need to collect huge taxes this year to cover all the expenses because of pandemic. Don't wait for the authority to caught you, stop your illegal transactions with gambling now before its too late.

[ethereumhunter]

Black market gambling will always be around and not only in Britain but every where. Why? Cause some people enjoy it cause of the free will to do anything.

One way the government can reduce it since its inevitable to take it down completely it is to regulate the gambling industry with this some people won't think of the black market.

And no, I would never try the gambling black market, that is too much risk.

Before the government applies the regulation, they need to search for illegal gambling places because I am sure the place will be at a hidden place, and that will need time before the government can find it. People who come to the illegal gambling site will not talk to someone they do not know because they will not want to risk that. Maybe the government can use the other way, such as asking from the people they caught because of some illegal thing. But that will not always work as the illegal gambling place will have a back up from the corrupt officials.

[Findingnemo]

People likely to gamble on the unregulated casinos or black market to avoid tax on their rewards because some countries has huge tax rates and almost 40% from the total rewards helps the black market to flourish.In UK gambling is completely regal if I am not wrong so the real reason is the high tax rates, so government need to make some changes in their gambling act 2005 to stop the black money or else it is going to get more bigger.

[virasisog]

People likely to gamble on the unregulated casinos or black market to avoid tax on their rewards because some countries has huge tax rates and almost 40% from the total rewards helps the black market to flourish.In UK gambling is completely regal if I am not wrong so the real reason is the high tax rates, so government needs to make some changes in their gambling act 2005 to stop the black money or else it is going to get bigger.

I've searched on google about the UK gambling tax and found out that gamblers are not taxed for any of their winnings from gambling, however, I am not sure if the same goes for gambling operators. This could be the reason why the gambling black market in the UK increased. Whether this could be the reason or not, illegal gambling cannot be eradicated, this kind of business had been existing since some players choose to gamble underground.

[CarnagexD]

Initially I thought these are unlicensed sites, that go undercover to conceal their operations, unfortunately this actually was a walk-in illegal casino and just like what Op said it risks the people playing and those that they come into contact with. I hope UK does something about this ASAP as the virus continues to mutate. We wanna make sure the safety and security of the general public is secured especially during these types of situations.

[KTChampions]

If people prefer the black market (with all its risks and disadvantages) then this means that the government does a shitty job and the "white" market has the worst conditions. It works the same in all areas, excessive taxes, regulation and other restrictions on the rights of people lead to the fact that they try to avoid it and thus a black market appears.

[AmoreJaz]

People likely to gamble on the unregulated casinos or black market to avoid tax on their rewards because some countries has huge tax rates and almost 40% from the total rewards helps the black market to flourish.In UK gambling is completely regal if I am not wrong so the real reason is the high tax rates, so government needs to make some changes in their gambling act 2005 to stop the black money or else it is going to get bigger.

I've searched on google about the UK gambling tax and found out that gamblers are not taxed for any of their winnings from gambling, however, I am not sure if the same goes for gambling operators. This could be the reason why the gambling black market in the UK increased. Whether this could be the reason or not, illegal gambling cannot be eradicated, this kind of business had been existing since some players choose to gamble underground.

am certain legal gambling operators need to pay taxes for the govt. so this black market is to avoid taxes and gamblers are patronising it. because right now, there are so many restrictions as we are still in pandemic, so maybe this black market is not so strict with health protocols, why these gamblers are going in instead in legal casinos.

or is this report tackling more on online gambling market as stated on this article not the physical casinos on their area? - https://www.cityam.com/pwc-report-shows-british-black-market-gambling-doubled-since-2018/

[Lorence.xD]

If people prefer the black market (with all its risks and disadvantages) then this means that the government does a shitty job and the "white" market has the worst conditions. It works the same in all areas, excessive taxes, regulation and other restrictions on the rights of people lead to the fact that they try to avoid it and thus a black market appears.

It is not just that, black market have a loyal customers and the head of the operations knows a lot of people. Not to mention that the money you mean on the underground are tax free, and if I am right, they do not profit big on gambling, they want the loan sharking part of the operations. It is partly the fault of legal gambling businesses and the authorities on why this underground gambling dens are not dying, the businesses are strict and the wins are not that great, on the authority side, they seem to enjoy the profits of corruption.

[iTradeChips]

I'd be honest here, because of the experiences we had in our city, things would be dismal to law enforcement. Black market gambling joints are like mushrooms, that suddenly sprout our of nowhere. No matter how many times governments of the world are doing their best to curb black market gambling, these just keeps on springing up, most of the time in the far reaches of law enforcement in the rural areas. Poverty might also be a twin brother of gambling that some men tend to put their hard earned cash in these illegal gambling joints in the hopes of a quick buck.

[iTradeChips]

Government of Britain should thrive to control the illegal gambling activities, its a risk hazard especially when they're trying to suppress the new variant. No license gambling platforms should immediately be shutdown and to those non compliant to health and safety regulations. People can go play online, why do they have to bet in physical bookies and risked their getting infected.

That is a good question. All I could think of for an answer really would be 2 things. First is the possibility that these gamblers don't know crap about the computer and don't know how to deal with online gambling so they don't waste time and just go to these places to easily play and place their bets. Second, I think is the thrill of playing on a physical and real place compared to doing it online which some would find boring and unattractive.

[KTChampions]

If people prefer the black market (with all its risks and disadvantages) then this means that the government does a shitty job and the "white" market has the worst conditions. It works the same in all areas, excessive taxes, regulation and other restrictions on the rights of people lead to the fact that they try to avoid it and thus a black market appears.

It is not just that, black market have a loyal customers and the head of the operations knows a lot of people. Not to mention that the money you mean on the underground are tax free, and if I am right, they do not profit big on gambling, they want the loan sharking part of the operations. It is partly the fault of legal gambling businesses and the authorities on why this underground gambling dens are not dying, the businesses are strict and the wins are not that great, on the authority side, they seem to enjoy the profits of corruption.

This is exactly what I said - if you impose inadequate taxes, then people start to evade them and a black market arises. This also applies to other restrictions. The easiest way to defeat the black market is to have adequate rules and regulations in the white market.

[Fatunad]

If people prefer the black market (with all its risks and disadvantages) then this means that the government does a shitty job and the "white" market has the worst conditions. It works the same in all areas, excessive taxes, regulation and other restrictions on the rights of people lead to the fact that they try to avoid it and thus a black market appears.

It is not just that, black market have a loyal customers and the head of the operations knows a lot of people. Not to mention that the money you mean on the underground are tax free, and if I am right, they do not profit big on gambling, they want the loan sharking part of the operations. It is partly the fault of legal gambling businesses and the authorities on why this underground gambling dens are not dying, the businesses are strict and the wins are not that great, on the authority side, they seem to enjoy the profits of corruption.

This is exactly what I said - if you impose inadequate taxes, then people start to evade them and a black market arises. This also applies to other restrictions. The easiest way to defeat the black market is to have adequate rules and regulations in the white market.

Even having that adequate rules and regulations in a legal market wouldnt still be a viable solution because there would be people/owners would really be going into this path.

Some would go align with paying up the right  tax and there would be some that wont really be tending to pay which do really ends on this.

Its no surprise that each government would really have different take when it comes to gambling industry or business.

[bitbunnny]

If people prefer the black market (with all its risks and disadvantages) then this means that the government does a shitty job and the "white" market has the worst conditions. It works the same in all areas, excessive taxes, regulation and other restrictions on the rights of people lead to the fact that they try to avoid it and thus a black market appears.

It is not just that, black market have a loyal customers and the head of the operations knows a lot of people. Not to mention that the money you mean on the underground are tax free, and if I am right, they do not profit big on gambling, they want the loan sharking part of the operations. It is partly the fault of legal gambling businesses and the authorities on why this underground gambling dens are not dying, the businesses are strict and the wins are not that great, on the authority side, they seem to enjoy the profits of corruption.

This is exactly what I said - if you impose inadequate taxes, then people start to evade them and a black market arises. This also applies to other restrictions. The easiest way to defeat the black market is to have adequate rules and regulations in the white market.

Even having that adequate rules and regulations in a legal market wouldnt still be a viable solution because there would be people/owners would really be going into this path.

Some would go align with paying up the right  tax and there would be some that wont really be tending to pay which do really ends on this.

Its no surprise that each government would really have different take when it comes to gambling industry or business.

I agree, no matter how regulated and neat gambling market is there will always be some who will turn to the dark side. It's just too tempting and it promiises good money.
I don't think that repression will actually help and I"m not fan of too strict measures and big punishments but sometimes governments don't have much choice and I guess that people who play honest, both owners and players, deserve that and message should be sent to the dark side of gambling industry.

[Lorence.xD]

~

This is exactly what I said - if you impose inadequate taxes, then people start to evade them and a black market arises. This also applies to other restrictions. The easiest way to defeat the black market is to have adequate rules and regulations in the white market.

It is good that we are on the same page but the problem here is that the authorities will have a hard time making leeway because that would mean that their revenue on taxes would be hurt significantly and a lot of their enforcement agencies will be losing their task force of cracking down underground gambling which is a parasitic cycle that they wouldn't want to end. And the leeway that I am talking about needs to be so public favoring that no one even wants to go underground anymore.

[South Park]

It is easy to see why there is a black market for gambling, casinos are heavily taxed and while they can still earn great profits out of it many people prefer to open illegal casinos and get more profits that way, but then why customers use illegal casinos? One answer is that they do not know they are using an illegal casino, but another option is that since the casino is not paying taxes they could offer better odds to their customers and they prefer to use such casino despite its illegal nature.

Its hard to digest that statement that they didn't know if the casino is illegal since they can always do a certain verification to know if they are dealing with legal and not, But what I think many people choose to play in black market gambling is due to restrictions what legal have also people want anonymity as well some of  black market casino is so exciting to play especially if we know the risk and how the play executed.

I really think that a great deal of the people that are gambling in illegal casinos do not really know that they are illegal, after all who is going to ask for a gambling license when they are gambling in a physical casino, very few people are going to do that, however as I said before I think that the biggest reason has to do with the odds, regulated casinos simply by the fact that they have to pay taxes have to offer worse odds in order to pay for that while a casino that is illegal doesn't have to do that and offers better odds and people for the most part are going to choose the cheaper product, sometimes even when they know such product is illegal, it is not correct but that is the way it is.

[Saint-loup]

If people prefer the black market (with all its risks and disadvantages) then this means that the government does a shitty job and the "white" market has the worst conditions. It works the same in all areas, excessive taxes, regulation and other restrictions on the rights of people lead to the fact that they try to avoid it and thus a black market appears.

You are right, government shouldn't blame gamblers, it should ask itself what it is doing bad in the legal gambling area instead. Internet hasn't been designed for being easily regulated, it has been designed for being as decentralized as possible so people will always find a way to bypass government restrictions.

[FlightyPouch]

If people prefer the black market (with all its risks and disadvantages) then this means that the government does a shitty job and the "white" market has the worst conditions. It works the same in all areas, excessive taxes, regulation and other restrictions on the rights of people lead to the fact that they try to avoid it and thus a black market appears.

You are right, government shouldn't blame gamblers, it should ask itself what it is doing bad in the legal gambling area instead. Internet hasn't been designed for being easily regulated, it has been designed for being as decentralized as possible so people will always find a way to bypass government restrictions.

Does this gambling black market include online casinos? There are a lot of online casinos they can play but I don't know if that is included there. Considering the fact that the country is experiencing the worst in this pandemic, they should also consider taking care of themselves and limit to go to these land-based casinos.

[KTChampions]

This is exactly what I said - if you impose inadequate taxes, then people start to evade them and a black market arises. This also applies to other restrictions. The easiest way to defeat the black market is to have adequate rules and regulations in the white market.

It is good that we are on the same page but the problem here is that the authorities will have a hard time making leeway because that would mean that their revenue on taxes would be hurt significantly and a lot of their enforcement agencies will be losing their task force of cracking down underground gambling which is a parasitic cycle that they wouldn't want to end. And the leeway that I am talking about needs to be so public favoring that no one even wants to go underground anymore.

Yes, this is the essence of government work. They come up with problems, then come up with solutions (which cost money) and this is repeated in many areas. And based on this absurd cycle, it is assumed that government as a whole is useful (which is a controversial claim). If we do not resist the growing powers of the government, then over time the situation will be such that citizens will actually be recognized as incapacitated and all decisions will be made by officials.

[Fredomago]

-Despite having Gambling as a controlled legal sport the black market continues to flourish. WHY ?
What are your opinions?
What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

There are gamblers who will always play in a place where there is little or no regulations at all, some of these are hub of illegal activities like drugs and sex which you can't never find in a regulated casinos, this kind of places are being raided and authorities are always on the watch on this kind of gambling hub, many of them are bribing the authorities that is why they are thriving.

Indeed, despite of this current  situation there are still people who continue to work with this kind of business. Lots of illegal doers are still at large and government even they are doing adjustment part of their bodies are involve with this illegal activities.

If people prefer the black market (with all its risks and disadvantages) then this means that the government does a shitty job and the "white" market has the worst conditions. It works the same in all areas, excessive taxes, regulation and other restrictions on the rights of people lead to the fact that they try to avoid it and thus a black market appears.

You are right, government shouldn't blame gamblers, it should ask itself what it is doing bad in the legal gambling area instead. Internet hasn't been designed for being easily regulated, it has been designed for being as decentralized as possible so people will always find a way to bypass government restrictions.

Gamblers will find ways to continue this kind of activities, they will look for convenience even there is risk. Most of them also involved with illegal activities.

They are enjoying this underground economy since they're qualified since the money that they'll bringing is also coming from black market, they are just continuing to patronize this kind of business.

Adjustments needs to start with government, adding strong and effective rulings making it more strict to combat this kind of activities.

[maydna]

There are gamblers who will always play in a place where there is little or no regulations at all, some of these are hub of illegal activities like drugs and sex which you can't never find in a regulated casinos, this kind of places are being raided and authorities are always on the watch on this kind of gambling hub, many of them are bribing the authorities that is why they are thriving.

That place will be available in many countries, but we don't know where the place is because people who always visit that place will not tell other people that they don't know. They always take care to tell the place to other people because if they share the place with many people, the government and the police can raid the place and catch all people who play gambling on that place. If we don't want to get a problem with the government and the police, we better stay away from that place and only playing gambling on the legal casino around our city, but that is only if the gambling activity is legal in your city. But we can play gambling online, especially we all use crypto to gamble, so that will be no problem for us to play anytime and anywhere unless the casino blocks the connection in our country.

[Silberman]

If people prefer the black market (with all its risks and disadvantages) then this means that the government does a shitty job and the "white" market has the worst conditions. It works the same in all areas, excessive taxes, regulation and other restrictions on the rights of people lead to the fact that they try to avoid it and thus a black market appears.

It is not just that, black market have a loyal customers and the head of the operations knows a lot of people. Not to mention that the money you mean on the underground are tax free, and if I am right, they do not profit big on gambling, they want the loan sharking part of the operations. It is partly the fault of legal gambling businesses and the authorities on why this underground gambling dens are not dying, the businesses are strict and the wins are not that great, on the authority side, they seem to enjoy the profits of corruption.

This is exactly what I said - if you impose inadequate taxes, then people start to evade them and a black market arises. This also applies to other restrictions. The easiest way to defeat the black market is to have adequate rules and regulations in the white market.

I agree that taxes that are too high and too much regulation to an industry will push many people to black markets, but at the same time while this can increase compliance there are always going to be people which will try to get around those legislations and avoid paying their due taxes, that is just simply how it is, after all if the bribes that they can pay to the local authorities to turn a blind eye to their operations are still lower than the taxes they need to pay then they will turn to the black market in a heartbeat.

[uneng]

-Despite having Gambling as a controlled legal sport the black market continues to flourish. WHY ?
What are your opinions?

Well, I think you have already answered your own question. Look below:

-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

People look for illegal casinos to do things they can't have access at the regulated ones.
Or maybe do gamblers think the illegal ones reward the gamblers better than the legal operating houses? Lol.

-there is no minor protection policies

But curiously not all illegal casinos accept underage gamblers. In my country there are casinos which will ask a young person for an ID before entering the house. Maybe it's a deal these casinos have with local authorities who turn a blind eye to illegal gambling since they respect at least minor protection policy.

[pixie85]

Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

Covid is already spreading and will continue. The only way to fight it is to go through it and become stronger or vaccinate. People can carry covid and not even be aware of it so you have the same probability of getting it in a bank or a post office as you have in a casino.

Drug dealing in a casino? If someone is familiar with the black market they can get drugs with ease. They don't have to go to a casino to get them.

[BuNga_cute]

I believe that illegal gambling does not flourish in the UK alone, but in some countries where gambling is prohibited. Because gambling can be addictive,
it is therefore taken advantage of by several large mafias to provide illegal gambling. Another thing that makes illegal gambling thrive is the very
large circulation of money, this is what makes the gambling industry very high demand. Moreover, illegal gambling does not need to pay taxes,
it encourages the gambling black market to be everywhere and difficult to eradicate. Because the benefits generated by illegal gambling are much
greater than legal gambling.

[Dutchyyy]

The UK requires a separate license. For example, Curacao licensed sites are not the UK licensed.

Every site that doesn't hold the UK license is a 'black-market' site to the BGC. E.g., 99% of the crypto sites are black-market.

So the article and data are misleading to me. People are not gambling in some dark illegal rooms; they are just using non-UK licensed sites in most cases.

[ethereumhunter]

I believe that illegal gambling does not flourish in the UK alone, but in some countries where gambling is prohibited. Because gambling can be addictive,
it is therefore taken advantage of by several large mafias to provide illegal gambling. Another thing that makes illegal gambling thrive is the very
large circulation of money, this is what makes the gambling industry very high demand. Moreover, illegal gambling does not need to pay taxes,
it encourages the gambling black market to be everywhere and difficult to eradicate. Because the benefits generated by illegal gambling are much
greater than legal gambling.

It is not surprising if we see a raid on illegal gambling in many countries because the government the illegal thing that they can not control. It is hard to search for that illegal gambling sites which available in many countries because people want to gamble in that place and do not want to get more regulations such as paying taxes. The circulating money in that illegal casino is bigger, and that is why the government wants to close or shutdown that place. But if the owner wants to join with the government, the government will help them, and the government can get taxes from them.

[Lorence.xD]

~

Yes, this is the essence of government work. They come up with problems, then come up with solutions (which cost money) and this is repeated in many areas. And based on this absurd cycle, it is assumed that government as a whole is useful (which is a controversial claim). If we do not resist the growing powers of the government, then over time the situation will be such that citizens will actually be recognized as incapacitated and all decisions will be made by officials.

What you are saying is right but I have to disagree with you, government is not the only one to blame when the problem arises, the people that supported them and voted for them are part to blame because they were dumb enough to elect those hijo de puta in the first place. The only way that this abusive and corrupt government can be resolved is if all their people are smart and knows that enough is enough and they have to act on it, the people has the power to get those people in power then they also have the power to put them out.

[3meek]

In illegal gambling clubs, if it is not an online casino, comes the appropriate people... I happened to visit one of them... I can only say that playing at home online is much better and safer!

[Mauser]

In illegal gambling clubs, if it is not an online casino, comes the appropriate people... I happened to visit one of them... I can only say that playing at home online is much better and safer!

Same goes for me, I just wouldn't feel safe to handle large amounts of money at these places. As long as you are losing everything is probably fine, but if you ever manage to win big. Who will guarantee that you will receive all your winnings? If something goes wrong you can't go to the police or the court to get your money back, since it's illegal winnings.

[XCANA]

In illegal gambling clubs, if it is not an online casino, comes the appropriate people... I happened to visit one of them... I can only say that playing at home online is much better and safer!

Was unfortunate to have fell into something i wanted not but becasue of my mindset towards gambling i choose to gamble whenever i have the funds. Whenever dealing with illegal gambling platform if anything happen nothing could be done to these platform because the police won't get involve. Some years back i lost a whooping sum of money $3000 but couldn't make any report to my local Police, i won't advise anyone to get involve into illegal gambling.

[ene1980]

Was unfortunate to have fell into something i wanted not but becasue of my mindset towards gambling i choose to gamble whenever i have the funds. Whenever dealing with illegal gambling platform if anything happen nothing could be done to these platform because the police won't get involve. Some years back i lost a whooping sum of money $3000 but couldn't make any report to my local Police, i won't advise anyone to get involve into illegal gambling.

I am gambling only in crypto based gambling sites but earlier used to gamble with some of the reputed sites but never checked whether they are illegal or legal according to the authorities, all i check is whether is having any major complaints from users and if they are clean i usually gamble and i never faced any problem with any of the sites and the reason users are attracted to black market sites might be because they might be giving more offers than legal sites. I would like to know how you lost $3000 and in which site?.

[KTChampions]

Was unfortunate to have fell into something i wanted not but becasue of my mindset towards gambling i choose to gamble whenever i have the funds. Whenever dealing with illegal gambling platform if anything happen nothing could be done to these platform because the police won't get involve. Some years back i lost a whooping sum of money $3000 but couldn't make any report to my local Police, i won't advise anyone to get involve into illegal gambling.

In fact, the opposite is true - if you lose money in an ordinary legal casino, then you cannot do anything since everything is legal and you cannot dispute the result of the games. But if you lost money in an illegal casino, then from the point of view of the law, this is an insignificant (in terms of law) transaction and you may well file a complaint with the police or court in order to get your money back.

[chaser15]

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

No. Not necessary and I don't want to risk my name there.

There are lots of reputable gambling sites wherein restrictions are not that hard to comply with. Feel comfortable without the worries that I'm playing in a dirty community.

Gambling in the black market is more on involving with a big association. They are likely to want to avoid paying taxes.

[South Park]

I believe that illegal gambling does not flourish in the UK alone, but in some countries where gambling is prohibited. Because gambling can be addictive,
it is therefore taken advantage of by several large mafias to provide illegal gambling. Another thing that makes illegal gambling thrive is the very
large circulation of money, this is what makes the gambling industry very high demand. Moreover, illegal gambling does not need to pay taxes,
it encourages the gambling black market to be everywhere and difficult to eradicate. Because the benefits generated by illegal gambling are much
greater than legal gambling.

Unfortunately this is the problem with banning or making something illegal, after all people want to gamble, gambling is a huge industry that moves a lot of money each year and yet there are many countries that forbid it and by doing so they are doing a great favour to mafias all around the world which are willing to offer gambling to those people, now in the case of the UK that should not be a problem because gambling there is legal however I'm pretty sure that because of all the taxes that casinos need to pay that the odds are not as good as the odds that you can find in casinos that are illegal and that sends some people to those illegal casinos.

[Silberman]

Was unfortunate to have fell into something i wanted not but becasue of my mindset towards gambling i choose to gamble whenever i have the funds. Whenever dealing with illegal gambling platform if anything happen nothing could be done to these platform because the police won't get involve. Some years back i lost a whooping sum of money $3000 but couldn't make any report to my local Police, i won't advise anyone to get involve into illegal gambling.

In fact, the opposite is true - if you lose money in an ordinary legal casino, then you cannot do anything since everything is legal and you cannot dispute the result of the games. But if you lost money in an illegal casino, then from the point of view of the law, this is an insignificant (in terms of law) transaction and you may well file a complaint with the police or court in order to get your money back.

Things are never that simple, while you are technically correct it is obvious that such a casino is going to have the protection of the local authorities, are you seriously going to take the risk of going to the police and denounce them when you know the casino is being run illegally? It is better to just accept the loss because most likely you will not get your money back but they will know that someone went to the police to denounce them and they will know who it was, so in my opinion it is just better to accept the loss instead of risking yourself over a small amount of money.

[maydna]

Was unfortunate to have fell into something i wanted not but becasue of my mindset towards gambling i choose to gamble whenever i have the funds. Whenever dealing with illegal gambling platform if anything happen nothing could be done to these platform because the police won't get involve. Some years back i lost a whooping sum of money $3000 but couldn't make any report to my local Police, i won't advise anyone to get involve into illegal gambling.

In fact, the opposite is true - if you lose money in an ordinary legal casino, then you cannot do anything since everything is legal and you cannot dispute the result of the games. But if you lost money in an illegal casino, then from the point of view of the law, this is an insignificant (in terms of law) transaction and you may well file a complaint with the police or court in order to get your money back.

Losing money in both legal casinos and illegal casinos will be a pain for every gambler. We can't do anything except accepting the losses, but some of us are still playing gambling on both types of casinos. We can't complain to the casino because the casino will not accept it and will remind silent. No matter what, we should stay away from the illegal casino if we don't want to get a problem. Otherwise, when we play a gambling game on that casino, and the police know about that place, they will arrest all of the people who play. It's only a matter of time before the police can arrive at that place and get all the gamblers.

[Fredomago]

I believe that illegal gambling does not flourish in the UK alone, but in some countries where gambling is prohibited. Because gambling can be addictive,
it is therefore taken advantage of by several large mafias to provide illegal gambling. Another thing that makes illegal gambling thrive is the very
large circulation of money, this is what makes the gambling industry very high demand. Moreover, illegal gambling does not need to pay taxes,
it encourages the gambling black market to be everywhere and difficult to eradicate. Because the benefits generated by illegal gambling are much
greater than legal gambling.

Unfortunately this is the problem with banning or making something illegal, after all people want to gamble, gambling is a huge industry that moves a lot of money each year and yet there are many countries that forbid it and by doing so they are doing a great favour to mafias all around the world which are willing to offer gambling to those people, now in the case of the UK that should not be a problem because gambling there is legal however I'm pretty sure that because of all the taxes that casinos need to pay that the odds are not as good as the odds that you can find in casinos that are illegal and that sends some people to those illegal casinos.

Illegal doers are everywhere, and those who are patronizing the business mostly involves with same market. Whatever moves the government do this groups of people are willing to take the high risk.

knowing that once the business start moving,  chances of gaining huge amount of money is worth the risk, we can't deny that gambling industry is really big and cutting some piece of it can give luxury to those people who are facilitating this illegal houses, they are gaining portions of those free taxes from this kind of black market.

[yazher]

I believe that illegal gambling does not flourish in the UK alone, but in some countries where gambling is prohibited. Because gambling can be addictive,
it is therefore taken advantage of by several large mafias to provide illegal gambling. Another thing that makes illegal gambling thrive is the very
large circulation of money, this is what makes the gambling industry very high demand. Moreover, illegal gambling does not need to pay taxes,
it encourages the gambling black market to be everywhere and difficult to eradicate. Because the benefits generated by illegal gambling are much
greater than legal gambling.

Unfortunately this is the problem with banning or making something illegal, after all people want to gamble, gambling is a huge industry that moves a lot of money each year and yet there are many countries that forbid it and by doing so they are doing a great favour to mafias all around the world which are willing to offer gambling to those people, now in the case of the UK that should not be a problem because gambling there is legal however I'm pretty sure that because of all the taxes that casinos need to pay that the odds are not as good as the odds that you can find in casinos that are illegal and that sends some people to those illegal casinos.

Illegal doers are everywhere, and those who are patronizing the business mostly involves with same market. Whatever moves the government do this groups of people are willing to take the high risk.

knowing that once the business start moving,  chances of gaining huge amount of money is worth the risk, we can't deny that gambling industry is really big and cutting some piece of it can give luxury to those people who are facilitating this illegal houses, they are gaining portions of those free taxes from this kind of black market.

Illegal in our country are those who make their own lottery from the result of lottery on the T.V but with little payment for entries and the price is not big as well. They've been doing this kind of illegal gambling since I was a kid and when they get caught they will face some serious charges. because not only they copy the actual legal gambling platform, they also present themselves as one of their representatives.

[jaberwock]

knowing that once the business start moving,  chances of gaining huge amount of money is worth the risk, we can't deny that gambling industry is really big and cutting some piece of it can give luxury to those people who are facilitating this illegal houses, they are gaining portions of those free taxes from this kind of black market.

The better thing for the government would be instead of forcing people to stop playing at these illegal sites, legalize gambling and put higher taxes which brings revenue for the government and I have seen when you impose taxes on something the interest from people also decreases.

I don't want to accuse crypto casinos but really they do contribute towards illegal gambling as minors can make an account on any of these sites and all the site is asking is to click a box "I understand and agree to terms" which the minor can easily do and that's it, welcome to the gambling world and get your careers ruined.

As much as I love betting anonymously, I feel there should be a protocol to verify at least the age of the gamblers because I don't mind grown people gambling illegally and handing their ass to the casinos but minors should not be allowed to join.

[dunfida]

Illegal in our country are those who make their own lottery from the result of lottery on the T.V but with little payment for entries and the price is not big as well. They've been doing this kind of illegal gambling since I was a kid and when they get caught they will face some serious charges. because not only they copy the actual legal gambling platform, they also present themselves as one of their representatives.

Im bit aware of this which it does actually happen for ages now on where making out some illegal lotteries and bettings with just basing into those official games that do happen.
They arent regulated and expected that ticket price or bet will be lesser but of course same goes with the prize.Still surprised that there are indeed people who are really fan
on doing it instead on going to legal places.

[magneto]

And ironically, the reason they thrive is because of the government.

Not having actually realistic regulations when it comes to gambling and having draconian levels of barrier to entry with gambling licensing is bound to create gambling black markets.

The demand for gambling is going to be there regardless of whether or not the government embraces it or not. They might as well go with more accomodative policy as opposed to restricting access.

[pakhitheboss]

And ironically, the reason they thrive is because of the government.

Not having actually realistic regulations when it comes to gambling and having draconian levels of barrier to entry with gambling licensing is bound to create gambling black markets.

The demand for gambling is going to be there regardless of whether or not the government embraces it or not. They might as well go with more accomodative policy as opposed to restricting access.

That is true most illegal activities happen because of Government policies. The demand is high and if but the supply is less, this is the main reason why all illegal activities start. The government wants to cash out on everything and that is why they have kept such a huge licensing fee. It is not easy for anyone to enter the gambling business because of the fee and hence they resort to the illegal gambling business. Most of them do not get caught as they do pay bribes to the local authorities to stay afloat.

[Silberman]

And ironically, the reason they thrive is because of the government.

Not having actually realistic regulations when it comes to gambling and having draconian levels of barrier to entry with gambling licensing is bound to create gambling black markets.

The demand for gambling is going to be there regardless of whether or not the government embraces it or not. They might as well go with more accomodative policy as opposed to restricting access.

Very true, many governments have a paternalistic view and they treat their citizens as if they are kids that cannot protect themselves, they see that some people lose their money while they gamble and they think that every person that gambles is the same when the truth is that the majority of people have their gambling under control and those people would have lost their money anyway in other stuff so those strict regulations are not helping anyone, except the owners of casinos that operate outside the law.

[ethereumhunter]

Illegal in our country are those who make their own lottery from the result of lottery on the T.V but with little payment for entries and the price is not big as well. They've been doing this kind of illegal gambling since I was a kid and when they get caught they will face some serious charges. because not only they copy the actual legal gambling platform, they also present themselves as one of their representatives.

I do not think that the gambling type will stop as many people still want to use it to search for making money. Even if they get caught because of playing illegal gambling, they will still use it once they free from jail. The owner will also change from time to time because that is a business that can make much money for them to hide their business from the government. We do not know how to reduce or erase that illegal casino because people are still tempted to playing gambling to make money.

[bitzizzix]

Illegal in our country are those who make their own lottery from the result of lottery on the T.V but with little payment for entries and the price is not big as well. They've been doing this kind of illegal gambling since I was a kid and when they get caught they will face some serious charges. because not only they copy the actual legal gambling platform, they also present themselves as one of their representatives.

I do not think that the gambling type will stop as many people still want to use it to search for making money. Even if they get caught because of playing illegal gambling, they will still use it once they free from jail. The owner will also change from time to time because that is a business that can make much money for them to hide their business from the government. We do not know how to reduce or erase that illegal casino because people are still tempted to playing gambling to make money.

Illegal gambling will continue to exist and will not disappear as long as there are many users, and they do not think about the risks they will face if caught because they think gambling is a source of making money quickly so they ignore the risks they face.
So I think illegal gambling will exist even if it is caught or for whatever reason and it will not go away, unless the government imposes strict regulations or harsh penalties.

[TheGreatPython]

Illegal in our country are those who make their own lottery from the result of lottery on the T.V but with little payment for entries and the price is not big as well.

Yes, the result of such lotteries are almost always rigged. They can always make their own people win and there is no verification process and the worst thing is that you cannot even complain about being scammed because you were wrong to buy those illegal lotteries ticket in first place and while they might get caught, although not sure, police will definitely trouble you for your actions.

They've been doing this kind of illegal gambling since I was a kid and when they get caught they will face some serious charges. because not only they copy the actual legal gambling platform, they also present themselves as one of their representatives.

The problem is that one gets caught the other one starts and there are lots of scam/fake lotteries going on in almost every country and the only way to close these illegal operations is if people decide not to waste their money and abandon playing completely on these sites.

[AicecreaME]

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

Never, I would never do such thing that would risk my life.

Betting in an illegal market or black market is so sketchy and risky for everyone. All of the black markets are running by criminals, gangs, drug lords, etc. all of the bad people are there. Now, people are turning in black market or in illegal gambling because of the Government overregulation of gambling sites, that's why people search for an alternative that could make them breath and free, however it is dangerous at the same time.

Why? oh well imagine getting addicted on it, getting a debt from it, and suddenly you can't find money to pay those debts and you've just been killed by a random stranger from the black market because of it, and other worst scenarios.

[Bitcoinislife09]

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ? But what do we think about Britain? In the Britain the black market gambling have more than just doubled , which is a matter of concern for everyone and not just the government.

-Despite having Gambling as a controlled legal sport the black market continues to flourish. WHY ?
What are your opinions?

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/11001/new-bgc-research-shows-number-of-customers-using-black-market-sites-has-more-than-doubled

Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

I do think the government needs to actually look forth for their licensing policies they time and again force the small gambling companies to shut off their business but at the same time doing it illegally doesn't make it any less of a crime.

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

Illegal gambling sounds ridiculous already for me. Gambling in the black market was insane and I will never try to do this. Its sounds like a gamble where your life could be threatened. I think this is where big-time criminals gamble their money in the place of the black market. The fact that the number of people using black market websites has double probably means the government does not really have a good system that takes care of this kind of illegal black market websites. Maybe because of the pandemic people find a new way to do it in a form of online, other countries already taken care of these issues, for sure Britain can too.

[Fredomago]

knowing that once the business start moving,  chances of gaining huge amount of money is worth the risk, we can't deny that gambling industry is really big and cutting some piece of it can give luxury to those people who are facilitating this illegal houses, they are gaining portions of those free taxes from this kind of black market.

The better thing for the government would be instead of forcing people to stop playing at these illegal sites, legalize gambling and put higher taxes which brings revenue for the government and I have seen when you impose taxes on something the interest from people also decreases.

I don't want to accuse crypto casinos but really they do contribute towards illegal gambling as minors can make an account on any of these sites and all the site is asking is to click a box "I understand and agree to terms" which the minor can easily do and that's it, welcome to the gambling world and get your careers ruined.

As much as I love betting anonymously, I feel there should be a protocol to verify at least the age of the gamblers because I don't mind grown people gambling illegally and handing their ass to the casinos but minors should not be allowed to join.

Things  being treated differently by gamblers who have their own opinions about dealing with this business, if the government will carry out or impose higher taxes, the house itself will adjust on it and bring that extra charge to gamblers end or they will shoulder half of it and the other half will be on the gamblers side.

From that point only those who are really got enough money will continue to patronize this business, other might be discouraged due to this new implemented new taxes. Win win for the government if all the executions correctly being done.

[Jemzx00]

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

No. Not necessary and I don't want to risk my name there.

There are lots of reputable gambling sites wherein restrictions are not that hard to comply with. Feel comfortable without the worries that I'm playing in a dirty community.

Gambling in the black market is more on involving with a big association. They are likely to want to avoid paying taxes.

I think one of the things that the illegal gambling would be is the anonymity of every users as these people would likely be gambling using big amount of money and privacy would be one the biggest factor of every gamblers there. For me, it's highly unlikely that each gamblers identity would known on these kinds of platform.

But also, even with high security on the privacy of every gamblers here and the thought that high rollers are involved on these will be the reason why they'll be targeted with hackers to identify them and their privacy be vulnerable to them.

I don't condone this kind of gambling but the main reason why high stakes and big rollers picked this way is to avoid tax and to avoid rules of government regulations on the legit gambling sites. I rather stick on the normal gambling way and continue rolling dice and playing games on the legit gambling sites such as FJ, Freebitco.in and Primedice than risking myself as I am already risking my funds when gambling.

[adzino]

-snip-
What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

Didn't even know gambling existed in the "black market" up until now. How do they even work? I mean, how do they even do the transactions? All cash and then launder it or something? I would say the government is to be blamed in this case. I have heard Britain was getting very strict with their gambling policies and laws recently which prompt more illegal casinos to pop up? Or maybe those illegal casinos are just trying to hide from taxes cause casinos are taxed very highly, at least over here. You know the more strict the government becomes, the more illegal stuffs starts to happen.

[Oceat]

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

Nah, never because you will encounter more dangerous people there than in traditional casino but if you have any acquaintance/friends who works from the inside that might be helpful for assurance but I would still never play there. Some people might play there because that's their hobby or they were just too addicted that it doesn't matter to them what would happen to them inside if they messed up.

I'd rather play with some of my friends, instead of playing with those people. You never know someone might do something to you after or outside the casino. Plus if the authority found out that place no one is safe to get outside unless if the casino has an exit ready something for like that.

[AliMan]

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ? But what do we think about Britain? In the Britain the black market gambling have more than just doubled , which is a matter of concern for everyone and not just the government.

-Despite having Gambling as a controlled legal sport the black market continues to flourish. WHY ?
What are your opinions?

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/11001/new-bgc-research-shows-number-of-customers-using-black-market-sites-has-more-than-doubled

Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

I do think the government needs to actually look forth for their licensing policies they time and again force the small gambling companies to shut off their business but at the same time doing it illegally doesn't make it any less of a crime.

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

I don't risk over gambling through black market, all operations related to this site is illegal and everyone knows that in the internet this is really dangerous. They could've hack you identity once you're doing transactions with them, as long as you're connected to their ip. Online gambling is operating underground, and this is really against the law. They're monitoring black market activities, but their IT support is unbreakable and I believed this is handled by bigger sindicates which is kept anonymous.

[Silberman]

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

Never, I would never do such thing that would risk my life.

Betting in an illegal market or black market is so sketchy and risky for everyone. All of the black markets are running by criminals, gangs, drug lords, etc. all of the bad people are there. Now, people are turning in black market or in illegal gambling because of the Government overregulation of gambling sites, that's why people search for an alternative that could make them breath and free, however it is dangerous at the same time.

Why? oh well imagine getting addicted on it, getting a debt from it, and suddenly you can't find money to pay those debts and you've just been killed by a random stranger from the black market because of it, and other worst scenarios.

I think you have the wrong idea about this, when people imagine a casino that is illegal they imagine some shady place where you need a password so the people at the door let you in, technically speaking any gambling that does not have a license and that does not pay taxes belongs to the black markets, so things like playing poker with your friends, a friendly bet about the result of a match between two teams or something as simple as playing bingo with your family can be considered to be an illegal form of gambling, and there are many instances of organized gambling that despite not paying taxes or having a license are not dangerous at all, obviously that does not mean that places like the one you describe do not exist but it is not as dramatic as it may sound at first.

[AicecreaME]

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

Never, I would never do such thing that would risk my life.

Betting in an illegal market or black market is so sketchy and risky for everyone. All of the black markets are running by criminals, gangs, drug lords, etc. all of the bad people are there. Now, people are turning in black market or in illegal gambling because of the Government overregulation of gambling sites, that's why people search for an alternative that could make them breath and free, however it is dangerous at the same time.

Why? oh well imagine getting addicted on it, getting a debt from it, and suddenly you can't find money to pay those debts and you've just been killed by a random stranger from the black market because of it, and other worst scenarios.

I think you have the wrong idea about this, when people imagine a casino that is illegal they imagine some shady place where you need a password so the people at the door let you in, technically speaking any gambling that does not have a license and that does not pay taxes belongs to the black markets, so things like playing poker with your friends, a friendly bet about the result of a match between two teams or something as simple as playing bingo with your family can be considered to be an illegal form of gambling, and there are many instances of organized gambling that despite not paying taxes or having a license are not dangerous at all, obviously that does not mean that places like the one you describe do not exist but it is not as dramatic as it may sound at first.

Did you even read the original post? It clearly stated about gambling in black market, I think you're the one who doesn't understand the whole thing here. Playing bingo or any card games with your friends or family that has bet is sure illegal, but that's not black market, it is just illegal which did not match what OP has stated. And I hate to disagree but any kind of gambling is addictive, whether it is in black market or not, so yes, it is always be dramatic because it needs attention and solution.

Being mentally ill because of gambling addiction is very crucial, since it will eat you alive, depression and stress is a very hard enemy to defeat if you're weak, that's what's I'm trying to say about OP's topic.

[AmoreJaz]

-snip-
What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

Didn't even know gambling existed in the "black market" up until now. How do they even work? I mean, how do they even do the transactions? All cash and then launder it or something? I would say the government is to be blamed in this case. I have heard Britain was getting very strict with their gambling policies and laws recently which prompt more illegal casinos to pop up? Or maybe those illegal casinos are just trying to hide from taxes cause casinos are taxed very highly, at least over here. You know the more strict the government becomes, the more illegal stuffs starts to happen.

gambling black market is everywhere, not only in britain but almost all countries. there are people that will always patronise it. for the organisers, of course, this is to avoid paying high taxes. the tx mostly is in cash i believe. though i havent been in a black market, but you can read a lot of related articles regarding its existence, it is not a secret actually.

[paxmao]

I think Europe and UK should be making an effort to surface all hidden betting. It is going to happen anyway and taxes would be welcome by the current COVID stricken economy.

[goaldigger]

-snip-
What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

Didn't even know gambling existed in the "black market" up until now. How do they even work? I mean, how do they even do the transactions? All cash and then launder it or something? I would say the government is to be blamed in this case. I have heard Britain was getting very strict with their gambling policies and laws recently which prompt more illegal casinos to pop up? Or maybe those illegal casinos are just trying to hide from taxes cause casinos are taxed very highly, at least over here. You know the more strict the government becomes, the more illegal stuffs starts to happen.

gambling black market is everywhere, not only in britain but almost all countries. there are people that will always patronise it. for the organisers, of course, this is to avoid paying high taxes. the tx mostly is in cash i believe. though i havent been in a black market, but you can read a lot of related articles regarding its existence, it is not a secret actually.

Those who don’t have access on casinos and crypto gambling online are mostly the commoner, that’s why they patronize illegal gambling simply because it requires nothing aside from having money. The organizer of this one surely knows the threat of every government, and I’m sure they have the connections to allow them operate despite of this pressure.

[johhnyUA]

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ?

Maybe you don't know, but 90 % of crypto casinos is illegal in terms of government regulations. They don't have any registration (even in such places as offshores ) and running as ordinary sites. So in fact, we are all using illegal casinos for gambling 
With sport bets it's much harder to talk. Maybe only with cock fights or cockroach races i can imagine this 

[Goodluckmate.com]

This is an interesting thread for a crypto gambling forum I'd say.  Most operators that are popular here hold only the Curacao eGaming license and that practically makes them illegal websites for British customers. Basically, Brits should gamble at UKGC casinos only and most operators here don't have that one.

I guess everything depends on how you define 'illegal'. If a website has good reputation but accepts UK players even though that's not allowed, is it an illegal one in your eyes? Because it's definitely not 100% legit but it's also a trusted brand with lots of positive reviews. So, I think that there's a bit of a grey area.

I know for a fact that many UK players play at international and offshore gambling sites. Why? The reasons are plenty. They want to escape Gamstop (no smart btw if you have a gambling problem), they want to make credit card payments (banned in the UK since April 2020), they want more freedom, etc. In that regard, I'd agree with the OP thesis that the black market thrives in Britain. But, I wouldn't say that it's 100% black, maybe grey in most instances.

Like, these operators do perform KYC checks and follow some rules. They're just not as strict as the ones approved by the UKGC. Also, some of them may be scam operators who just want to steal your cash, avoid approving withdrawals, and stuff like that.