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How government did really come up into this conclusion? Are they out of their minds?
Because people who run the government often incompetent, and they want to move to a less free market and more authoritarian regime. Football and sports betting are like something inseparable, it's insane to think they want to kill something that makes this sport growing in the first place. The reason this regulation is because they want to protect the consumers (viewers) who often under 18, limit the "damage" from online casinos and stuff. Anyway, I do not really care anymore since I've stopped watching EPL since the kneeling event and "BLM" instead of names on some player's jersey, plus the VAR fiasco ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) EPL should be free of politics and handled by real men.
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February 26, 2021, 04:10:23 AM |
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Simply stupid if you ask me.
Allowing some companies to sponsor and blocking others has nothing to do with fairness. That same fairness that sports are supposed to promote!
Who's there to say what company can be displayed on uniforms and what cannot be? This should be decided by the team not some government asshole.
The government got it wrong here in taking such a decision not withstanding the other non gambling sponsors are they more important than gambling sponsorship? that isn't fair If gambling organizations can challenge the ban in any court of law they should do so, clubs had been earning huge profits from this deals and this enable some of these clubs to sign quality players having enough funds earned from all sorts of sponsorship deals particularly from gambling industries. The should rescind the ban in the interest of the clubs.
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February 26, 2021, 07:00:28 AM |
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Simply stupid if you ask me.
Indeed Really Stupidity to Banned sponsorship for gambling. Allowing some companies to sponsor and blocking others has nothing to do with fairness. That same fairness that sports are supposed to promote!
This is a clear abusing , The Companies that has Tons of Funds can buy the Law enforcement and they can have Under the table while others are being threaten . Who's there to say what company can be displayed on uniforms and what cannot be? This should be decided by the team not some government asshole.
Well this is not about the team to decide but the government so nothing we can do but to accept that fact. and this is all i can Say ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqSL4sXH.gif&t=665&c=-nNiD5Lz4V7-Mg)
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February 26, 2021, 11:01:03 AM |
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Governments can ban anything for simply they don't like it, so clubs have no ither choice than following it but sooner if thise gambling companies wants to pay huge taxes to the government then everything will be kegal again so money is the main motive behind such restrictions for sure. But no worries as fas as I know these kind of bans were existed for very small time.
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February 26, 2021, 11:20:07 AM |
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The government cannot impose any taxes from here which is why gambling is not sponsored. The government has no role here people are more inclined towards online gambling there may be steps in the future to impose taxes and build legal casinos at some stage in the government's plans the government can set extremely high rates for business licenses for gambling, which will also play a role in increasing government revenue it can impose high taxes for the purpose of spending for the development of the country and determine the specific nationality and age for entry. The government may also have long term plans for how to protect the area around the casino the first thing that will be needed is to formulate policies related to casinos, enact new laws and create a conducive environment for its implementation.
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February 27, 2021, 08:37:21 PM |
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Sponsorship has been with sports ever since, they go together it's part of commercialism and commercialism in sports is what helps to keep the team moving and keeping the team together and paying the services of their players and staffs, this is indeed a stupid decision by the government.
Maybe they just don't want the sports betting promotion on the shirt of the players. That said, any match I see there are sponsors like bet365 and recently sportsbet.io had some amazing partnerships as well with some soccer clubs, so I really don't like this decision from the government if it is actually enforced. As long as gambling is legal in the country the sport is being played, I don't see any problem with the promotion either. Maybe this won't dwell too well with the clubs and ultimately this kind of bogus government policy will be withdrawn.
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February 28, 2021, 10:26:55 AM |
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It's a very strange decision for me. If the bookmaker is legal then why not. After all, it brings money to the club, which will be able to use the money to improve something. I think this sponsorship is beneficial to all. Again the government is making up stupid bans. And besides, how will they control it. If they are going to give fines, what is to prevent them from simply paying those fines and having sponsorship deals?
Every country has a crazy rule for each of the industries and even it is a questionable rule and we understand what must be right and justifiable, we cannot do that much about it. Maybe in the future they will have to emphasize and modify rules like this.
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February 28, 2021, 03:08:47 PM |
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It's a very strange decision for me. If the bookmaker is legal then why not. After all, it brings money to the club, which will be able to use the money to improve something. I think this sponsorship is beneficial to all. Again the government is making up stupid bans. And besides, how will they control it. If they are going to give fines, what is to prevent them from simply paying those fines and having sponsorship deals?
It can bring the money to the club, but the government is not always getting the money, as the deal is between the club and the sports sponsorship. But maybe the government only wants to protect their people from playing gambling on that site. If the government can be one of the other parties in that deal, the government can arrange new regulations for the club, the sports sponsorship, and the government. I think that will help all sides to get the money if the money is the problem.
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February 28, 2021, 05:09:56 PM |
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It's a very strange decision for me. If the bookmaker is legal then why not. After all, it brings money to the club, which will be able to use the money to improve something. I think this sponsorship is beneficial to all. Again the government is making up stupid bans. And besides, how will they control it. If they are going to give fines, what is to prevent them from simply paying those fines and having sponsorship deals?
It can bring the money to the club, but the government is not always getting the money, as the deal is between the club and the sports sponsorship. But maybe the government only wants to protect their people from playing gambling on that site. If the government can be one of the other parties in that deal, the government can arrange new regulations for the club, the sports sponsorship, and the government. I think that will help all sides to get the money if the money is the problem. In fact the government is worried because gambling propaganda creates addiction on their point of view. What means there will be more *sick* people in the country, forcing the government to spend more with health institutions, professionals and treatments for addiction. And it's well known governments don't want to create more expenses as the world is constantly in economical crisis.
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February 28, 2021, 06:59:24 PM |
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Sounds stupid but from a neutral's perspective I actually think they are doing it for the betterment of people because kids are watching these matches and get to know about how gambling works and might even get into gambling at an age when they should not. West Ham for example have the big front logo of Betway I remember and I have seen fun88 or something like that on a team's jersey on the front.
It would be a big loss as mentioned in the article that there could be a 110 million Euro loss for the top teams. If the government is going to impose ban on these sponsorship then they better be ready to provide some other benefits otherwise its just net loss for the teams and owners. I am not sure if there are other sponsors in line which has given the confidence to the government to take such steps but otherwise a very bizarre and sort of unwanted move.
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February 28, 2021, 09:31:16 PM |
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This would of course put the gambling industry at a disadvantage as they will lose one of their biggest modes of sponsorship. I experienced first-hand how impactful football shirt sponsorships are, and it basically being banned from ever being used again by the government is going to be a big problem for most gambling sites, especially those that are still small and starting up. Sounds stupid but from a neutral's perspective I actually think they are doing it for the betterment of people because kids are watching these matches and get to know about how gambling works and might even get into gambling at an age when they should not. West Ham for example have the big front logo of Betway I remember and I have seen fun88 or something like that on a team's jersey on the front.
It would be a big loss as mentioned in the article that there could be a 110 million Euro loss for the top teams. If the government is going to impose ban on these sponsorship then they better be ready to provide some other benefits otherwise its just net loss for the teams and owners. I am not sure if there are other sponsors in line which has given the confidence to the government to take such steps but otherwise a very bizarre and sort of unwanted move.
You have a point, and they can't just easily censor it since it's a sponsorship for god's sake. Perhaps in the future, at the height of technological advancement we may see future technologies where machines will automatically censor stuff based on your age, but until then, the gambling sites have no choice but to put up with our kids.
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March 01, 2021, 04:32:04 AM |
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Governments can ban anything for simply they don't like it, so clubs have no ither choice than following it but sooner if thise gambling companies wants to pay huge taxes to the government then everything will be kegal again so money is the main motive behind such restrictions for sure. But no worries as fas as I know these kind of bans were existed for very small time.
But that is an abuse of power, this is a clear example of why taking random decisions should no be encouraged, governments need to make an analysis to determine if what they are trying to do is correct at all, banning gambling sponsorship in sports is not going to stop people from gambling at all and will impact very negatively the sports industry, there may be some teams that can survive this but over the long term many teams will be unable to sustain themselves without that income.
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March 01, 2021, 09:16:06 PM |
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Governments can ban anything for simply they don't like it, so clubs have no ither choice than following it but sooner if thise gambling companies wants to pay huge taxes to the government then everything will be kegal again so money is the main motive behind such restrictions for sure. But no worries as fas as I know these kind of bans were existed for very small time.
But that is an abuse of power, this is a clear example of why taking random decisions should no be encouraged, governments need to make an analysis to determine if what they are trying to do is correct at all, banning gambling sponsorship in sports is not going to stop people from gambling at all and will impact very negatively the sports industry, there may be some teams that can survive this but over the long term many teams will be unable to sustain themselves without that income. Vary on countries type of government and if you do end up on having a republican type or Democratic then these kind of decisions will really undergo in various debates and discussions which means it does have chances for it to be rejected or would really be approved depending on whats had been discussed and been agreed unlike on other type or forms of government where leaders or on top of the chain leaders would always have the power on what they do have in mind so neither it would be a non-sense or a relevant decision then no citizen could really oppose on whats been ruled in.So in short you wont really have any choice but to deal with it.
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There is so much money involved here. I'm sure they're just trying to flex and see what sort of take they can get on the action. I doubt the end game here is to stop people from putting money into their favorite clubs. That just doesn't make sense. I'm not sure where the pressure for this is coming from or what the goal is, but it seems like someone is playing a game of chicken to try and get some extra money flowing.
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March 02, 2021, 01:39:55 AM |
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Some countries always prohibit betting and gambling, in fact, where I live, they banned traditional casinos years ago, however through online sites they do not have the corresponding control, it gets out of hand, I think that people who like gambling and casino games have that solution, however, governments always seek to have the best comforts, that's why many apply devaluation, sometimes you have to be irreverent with the unfair, for that blockchain technology, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are used to bypass all these prohibitions.
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March 03, 2021, 12:07:14 PM |
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Some countries always prohibit betting and gambling, in fact, where I live, they banned traditional casinos years ago, however through online sites they do not have the corresponding control, it gets out of hand, I think that people who like gambling and casino games have that solution, however, governments always seek to have the best comforts, that's why many apply devaluation, sometimes you have to be irreverent with the unfair, for that blockchain technology, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are used to bypass all these prohibitions.
That's the good thing with crypto, it eliminates that kind of limitation as most crypto casinos promise anonymous gambling. We will be able to gamble without limitation, the only problem is if we are caught by our government violating the law, on that side, we just have to be smart in hiding our illegal activities because whether we admit or not, what we are doing is illegal.
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March 03, 2021, 01:55:47 PM |
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Some countries always prohibit betting and gambling, in fact, where I live, they banned traditional casinos years ago, however through online sites they do not have the corresponding control, it gets out of hand, I think that people who like gambling and casino games have that solution, however, governments always seek to have the best comforts, that's why many apply devaluation, sometimes you have to be irreverent with the unfair, for that blockchain technology, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are used to bypass all these prohibitions.
That's the good thing with crypto, it eliminates that kind of limitation as most crypto casinos promise anonymous gambling. We will be able to gamble without limitation, the only problem is if we are caught by our government violating the law, on that side, we just have to be smart in hiding our illegal activities because whether we admit or not, what we are doing is illegal. Well, the framework of illegality is due to the interpretation that is given according to the law, that is why there are lawyers and judges, in reality illegality in games of chance should not exist, the biggest problem that can arise would be that of falling into vice, but if so then why not prohibit alcoholic beverages? why so much codecency in some countries with drugs? Why so many assassinations, femicides and so many things so illegal in the world and they do not prohibit them? They prohibit fun, I think it is not fair, in addition, it is regulated for people of legal age, I understand that people +18 are adults and are responsible for their actions. I think that the governments that prohibit casinos, betting, gambling is because they want to have total control, it seems a bit selfish to me, if they forbid you to be happy, would you accept it? I think that many times you have to be irreberent in regard to governments, for them there are never prohibitions.
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I’m disappointed with the government as this is not the best time to enforce this: Football has been warned it faces a “significant impact” with the Government ready to impose a major crackdown on betting sponsorship.
Ministers could impose a complete ban on shirt sponsorship with gambling firms as part of their review with teams from the top two divisions making around £110m-a-year from the tie-ups.
What are your thoughts on this do you agree with the government or you’re against this proposal, and how do you think that the club owners will react knowing that they’ll have to suffer more financial losses if this is implemented. Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/football-clubs-warned-betting-sponsorship-23457892.ampI think it's a ridiculous proposal. Why be so tough on betting anyway? If someone has an addiction, this person requires help. But alcohol addiction is a serious problem, and yet it's widely available (and I don't know about Western countries, but in Ukraine alcohol is advertised on TV a lot, and there are often alcohol sponsorships of various events). I think that such sponsorships are beneficial for teams, sportsbooks and bettors, so I don't see why the government would ban them. Addiction might not be a good enough reason for this decision.
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March 03, 2021, 06:10:35 PM |
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Well, the framework of illegality is due to the interpretation that is given according to the law, that is why there are lawyers and judges, in reality illegality in games of chance should not exist, the biggest problem that can arise would be that of falling into vice, but if so then why not prohibit alcoholic beverages? why so much codecency in some countries with drugs? Why so many assassinations, femicides and so many things so illegal in the world and they do not prohibit them? They prohibit fun, I think it is not fair, in addition, it is regulated for people of legal age, I understand that people +18 are adults and are responsible for their actions.
I think that the governments that prohibit casinos, betting, gambling is because they want to have total control, it seems a bit selfish to me, if they forbid you to be happy, would you accept it? I think that many times you have to be irreberent in regard to governments, for them there are never prohibitions.
Interpreting how the government comes up with the ideas are really tough, they are trying to implement something that also have weight in people's life, those examples that you have mentioned are true, why bothered to prohibits gambling if there are also other addicting vices around, the limitations is under the control of the government. Citizens are just there to follow whatever the governmetn decide to rule out, unless you are willing to go dark and play along or ride along with the black market and works with illegal doers.
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March 03, 2021, 06:32:04 PM |
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I who live in a country where gambling is completely prohibited (only federal and other authorized lotteries are allowed) tell you:
Any kind of prohibition only increases clandestine gamblings and ends up leading people to bet in the wrong way, often losing their money in fraudulent games. I see this proposal for a ban as something very poorly planned and that willn't bring any benefit.
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