New Government Rules Mean No More Gambling Sponsorship

[uneng]

I who live in a country where gambling is completely prohibited (only federal and other authorized lotteries are allowed) tell you:

Any kind of prohibition only increases clandestine gamblings and ends up leading people to bet in the wrong way, often losing their money in fraudulent games.
I see this proposal for a ban as something very poorly planned and that willn't bring any benefit.

Yes, probably it happens in every countries where gambling is illegal. I see two reasons why there isn't any kind of will from authorities to regulate it:

• In religious countries donations from rich guys go to churches and similar organizations and by donating these rich guys have discounts on their income tax annualy, plus laudering money meanwhile. Since gambling is allowed, a large part of these donations funds would go to gambling instead of donations;
• Corrupt authorities profit from illegal gambling, as they charge payments from these illegal operations to turn a blind eye to their businesses. If gambling were legal, some corrupt agents would lose a big source of profit.

[RealMalatesta]

the framework of illegality is due to the interpretation that is given according to the law, that is why there are lawyers and judges, in reality illegality in games of chance should not exist, the biggest problem that can arise would be that of falling into vice, but if so then why not prohibit alcoholic beverages? why so much codecency in some countries with drugs? Why so many assassinations, femicides and so many things so illegal in the world and they do not prohibit them? They prohibit fun, I think it is not fair, in addition, it is regulated for people of legal age, I understand that people +18 are adults and are responsible for their actions.

I think that the governments that prohibit casinos, betting, gambling is because they want to have total control, it seems a bit selfish to me, if they forbid you to be happy, would you accept it? I think that many times you have to be irreberent in regard to governments, for them there are never prohibitions.

The difference is that people know the dangers of those things which are to health and even though it is long term it is dangerous and scientific research has happened and there are even places that helps you recover from that if you can, but basically it is a public thing that everyone knows and it is purely bad, there is no good that comes with it.

On the other hand gambling is not like that, everyone knows that most probably you are going to lose all your money there, and that is good right like there is no health thing, if you know your budget that means you are both spending money and having fun like going to movies, obviously bad if you lose all your money and bankrupt but that is a bad thing that is better than being killed by smoking or drinking hard booze, so that should be fine then?

No, because there is a "chance of winning big" which makes it more tempting than any other bad habit, and that is the part that makes it illegal so much, because when you drink you know you are only hurting your body and there is no chance of something good happening if you smoke, but when you gamble there is a chance of winning and that is why it is harder to prevent it.

[CryptocurencyKing]

Sometimes, I just don't understand what is government's obsession with companies making profit through active adverts. Is it that,
The firms aren't being tasked?
Or perhaps gambling has been considered illegal?
This is what could be raising concerns on the industry and possibly when it has to affect health because, as as far as I can tell, the gambling is an out of freewill enterprise and all gamblers knows this. Either they loose or not, but your never forced to play so, if you if a company is sponsoring a team and getti g adverts out of it, then you it's conpletely okay.

Besides, these are a few ways through which the team generates funds and the firm benefits from inspired trust through these clubs and the government still gets revenue from it.
They should look for other things to deliberate on other than the profit a legitimate businesses, but paying taxes and all is making.

[Vaskiy]

I who live in a country where gambling is completely prohibited (only federal and other authorized lotteries are allowed) tell you:

Any kind of prohibition only increases clandestine gamblings and ends up leading people to bet in the wrong way, often losing their money in fraudulent games.
I see this proposal for a ban as something very poorly planned and that willn't bring any benefit.

But these are for few gamblers as majority would certainly stop knowing that gambling is prohibited in their country. Making gambling illegal is like putting an end of gambling if that is already part of the culture, of course it will not be completely eliminated but it will reduce the interest of the gamblers until they realize that there's still another way to enjoy aside from gambling.

Yes, this will reduce the interest of gamblers. Already more countries have banned gambling. That hasn't made gamblers stay within the restriction. But, people look for alternate and other ways to gamble. The serious issue of gambling need to be taken into consideration when the gambling activity affects the living.

[Renampun]

There is so much money involved here.  I'm sure they're just trying to flex and see what sort of take they can get on the action.  I doubt the end game here is to stop people from putting money into their favorite clubs.  That just doesn't make sense.  I'm not sure where the pressure for this is coming from or what the goal is, but it seems like someone is playing a game of chicken to try and get some extra money flowing.

makes a lot of sense with this possibility...
create stricter rules with the aim of getting more money from the results of the negotiations. Well, it looks like the lawmakers will live as corrupt as long as possible.

[tabas]

makes a lot of sense with this possibility...
create stricter rules with the aim of getting more money from the results of the negotiations.

Yeah, sometimes that's all it takes for them to make more money. They become stricter for more permits and adds more contribution and money for it.

Well, it looks like the lawmakers will live as corrupt as long as possible.

That's normal in politics and some government. Instead of making people lives better, they'll make it difficult just as removing this kind of sponsorship, it's just unfair.

[South Park]

There is so much money involved here.  I'm sure they're just trying to flex and see what sort of take they can get on the action.  I doubt the end game here is to stop people from putting money into their favorite clubs.  That just doesn't make sense.  I'm not sure where the pressure for this is coming from or what the goal is, but it seems like someone is playing a game of chicken to try and get some extra money flowing.

This explanation makes sense, but in my experience we should never underestimate the desire of politicians to just show their power or try to make themselves look good, if this is just an attempt to try to get more money in someway out of the industry then there should be nothing to worry about it, but if that is not the case then they are dumb enough to pass a regulation like that which will have no effect on those which have gambling problems and will create problems for football clubs to keep themselves in business.

[AmoreJaz]

There is so much money involved here.  I'm sure they're just trying to flex and see what sort of take they can get on the action.  I doubt the end game here is to stop people from putting money into their favorite clubs.  That just doesn't make sense.  I'm not sure where the pressure for this is coming from or what the goal is, but it seems like someone is playing a game of chicken to try and get some extra money flowing.

This explanation makes sense, but in my experience we should never underestimate the desire of politicians to just show their power or try to make themselves look good, if this is just an attempt to try to get more money in someway out of the industry then there should be nothing to worry about it, but if that is not the case then they are dumb enough to pass a regulation like that which will have no effect on those which have gambling problems and will create problems for football clubs to keep themselves in business.

anyway, we will know if they can indeed implement such regulation or are they just going to settle here later on? this type of sponsorship has been going for years and years already. why only now?
maybe those politicians are just making good impression to their constituents, as others have already pointed out. the money involve here is quite huge, so dont think they will just follow what the government is saying them to do without giving a fight.

[dimonstration]

makes a lot of sense with this possibility...
create stricter rules with the aim of getting more money from the results of the negotiations. Well, it looks like the lawmakers will live as corrupt as long as possible.

When it comes ti sponsorship, its quite hard to control who will be able to get the priviledged who will get the sponsorship. Sometimes in may countrythe official or governments said to be there are the one who sponsor the events but in fact it can be came from the gambling activities, its hard to control whenmoneyinvolved and when some officials are covering them.

[DarkDays]

Some countries always prohibit betting and gambling, in fact, where I live, they banned traditional casinos years ago, however through online sites they do not have the corresponding control, it gets out of hand, I think that people who like gambling and casino games have that solution, however, governments always seek to have the best comforts, that's why many apply devaluation, sometimes you have to be irreverent with the unfair, for that blockchain technology, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are used to bypass all these prohibitions.

That's the good thing with crypto, it eliminates that kind of limitation as most crypto casinos promise anonymous gambling. We will be able to gamble without limitation, the only problem is if we are caught by our government violating the law, on that side, we just have to be smart in hiding our illegal activities because whether we admit or not, what we are doing is illegal.

It is illegal in their eyes because local governments are not willing to be putting in the time and money to understand the crypto space. For them it is easier to ban anything crypto related.

Gambling is not that different, and the more control the government wants to claim the harder it gets for them to keep everyone in order as there will always be alternative ways to avoid conflict with the law.

[ene1980]

I see two reasons why there isn't any kind of will from authorities to regulate it:

In religious countries donations from rich guys go to churches and similar organizations and by donating these rich guys have discounts on their income tax annualy, plus laudering money meanwhile. Since gambling is allowed, a large part of these donations funds would go to gambling instead of donations

This is not the reason why gambling is not legal everywhere. Church might advice someone not to gamble because once you are addicted then you will gamble everything you have and will harm an individual and his home and not for the donations. No one is forcing anyone to donate and even if there is a casino the people who wants to donate will still keep on doing that.

Corrupt authorities profit from illegal gambling, as they charge payments from these illegal operations to turn a blind eye to their businesses. If gambling were legal, some corrupt agents would lose a big source of profit.

Politicians makes the law and if they make them legal then they will earn more money in terms of taxes and the corrupt authorities can work full time even if it is a legal casino and corrupt agents has nothing to do with making the law.

[yazher]

There is so much money involved here.  I'm sure they're just trying to flex and see what sort of take they can get on the action.  I doubt the end game here is to stop people from putting money into their favorite clubs.  That just doesn't make sense.  I'm not sure where the pressure for this is coming from or what the goal is, but it seems like someone is playing a game of chicken to try and get some extra money flowing.

I those government just simply want prepare something here. They just want some extra payment from those companies because they think the money they get is not enough since those companies making some big money from the people. Now that they also have online gambling out there, their income has increased as well but the payment they gave to the government which what we call a tax. If they really wanted to implement such rules I think they won't announce them until the law is in the higher court. Now like you said since it has announced some gambling organization might counter their decision either with money or some high-status person which will help them disapprove of such plans.

[South Park]

There is so much money involved here.  I'm sure they're just trying to flex and see what sort of take they can get on the action.  I doubt the end game here is to stop people from putting money into their favorite clubs.  That just doesn't make sense.  I'm not sure where the pressure for this is coming from or what the goal is, but it seems like someone is playing a game of chicken to try and get some extra money flowing.

This explanation makes sense, but in my experience we should never underestimate the desire of politicians to just show their power or try to make themselves look good, if this is just an attempt to try to get more money in someway out of the industry then there should be nothing to worry about it, but if that is not the case then they are dumb enough to pass a regulation like that which will have no effect on those which have gambling problems and will create problems for football clubs to keep themselves in business.

anyway, we will know if they can indeed implement such regulation or are they just going to settle here later on? this type of sponsorship has been going for years and years already. why only now?
maybe those politicians are just making good impression to their constituents, as others have already pointed out. the money involve here is quite huge, so dont think they will just follow what the government is saying them to do without giving a fight.

We will have to wait and see, if I was a member of an industry that also sponsored football clubs then I will be worried about it, after all if they go against gambling in general what is stopping the government to go against the alcohol industry arguing that increases the consumption of those beverages or something, so it may be a good idea for industries like that to join forces and to move their influence and to not allow this law to pass on the first place.

[michellee]

makes a lot of sense with this possibility...
create stricter rules with the aim of getting more money from the results of the negotiations. Well, it looks like the lawmakers will live as corrupt as long as possible.

When it comes ti sponsorship, its quite hard to control who will be able to get the priviledged who will get the sponsorship. Sometimes in may countrythe official or governments said to be there are the one who sponsor the events but in fact it can be came from the gambling activities, its hard to control whenmoneyinvolved and when some officials are covering them.

Both of you are right, especially with the internet available in many places, that sponsorship can continue without any regulators or government knows. They can make an agreement in below of hands without anyone know. Even without the internet, the corrupt official can handshake with the other people without the government know. But if the government seriously eradicates or reduces the corrupt, they can contact the club owner and the shirt sponsorships to discuss more the agreement.

[jostorres]

This explanation makes sense, but in my experience we should never underestimate the desire of politicians to just show their power or try to make themselves look good, if this is just an attempt to try to get more money in someway out of the industry then there should be nothing to worry about it, but if that is not the case then they are dumb enough to pass a regulation like that which will have no effect on those which have gambling problems and will create problems for football clubs to keep themselves in business.

Specially since the pandemic has just ended and I am sure almost every club is striving for extra income and during such hard times forcing this kind of restriction that you cannot have gambling sites as sponsors is a poor decision. Clubs make so much money with these sponsors because only gambling sites can afford such high costs and don't know who else can pay even close to these amounts which the gambling sites like bet365 are paying to clubs.

I those government just simply want prepare something here. They just want some extra payment from those companies because they think the money they get is not enough since those companies making some big money from the people. Now that they also have online gambling out there, their income has increased as well but the payment they gave to the government which what we call a tax.

It might be true that banning these sponsors will make clubs and even the sponsors get in touch and pay some hefty sum of money to overturn this decision but the easier way would have been imposing higher taxes on having gambling sponsors or something similar to that which doesn't hurt the sponsors too much while clubs make a lot of money and paying some part as a fees won't be a big problem.

[South Park]

This explanation makes sense, but in my experience we should never underestimate the desire of politicians to just show their power or try to make themselves look good, if this is just an attempt to try to get more money in someway out of the industry then there should be nothing to worry about it, but if that is not the case then they are dumb enough to pass a regulation like that which will have no effect on those which have gambling problems and will create problems for football clubs to keep themselves in business.

Specially since the pandemic has just ended and I am sure almost every club is striving for extra income and during such hard times forcing this kind of restriction that you cannot have gambling sites as sponsors is a poor decision. Clubs make so much money with these sponsors because only gambling sites can afford such high costs and don't know who else can pay even close to these amounts which the gambling sites like bet365 are paying to clubs.

The lack of foresight of most governments always surprises me, I understand that governments are supposed to try to protect their citizens but it comes to a point in which they become overprotective and not only this is disliked by the population but this produces laws that do not really bring a positive effect to the society but in fact produce negative outcomes, after all the gambling industry dedicates a great deal of resources to promote sports and without that support clubs will have problems keeping themselves in business.

[jaberwock]

The lack of foresight of most governments always surprises me, I understand that governments are supposed to try to protect their citizens but it comes to a point in which they become overprotective and not only this is disliked by the population but this produces laws that do not really bring a positive effect to the society but in fact produce negative outcomes, after all the gambling industry dedicates a great deal of resources to promote sports and without that support clubs will have problems keeping themselves in business.

To me, it is pretty simple. If gambling is legal in your country, allow gambling promotions and sponsors but if gambling is not legal then it is justified to ban the sponsors because it might lead to illegal gambling eventually.

The government doesn't stop their citizens from spending money on alcohol right so they should have no control to stop them from gambling either. If they are worried about the underage kids gambling then make the casinos and sportsbooks even more strict about their KYC or just cancel their license.

The article shared in the OP has one statement which is quite strange.  It says "Neil Banbury, UK General Manager at Kindred Group, says their figures show and in-depth research show that “high risk” customers make up four per cent of their business and their target is to reach zero levels." which means only 4% was there and a decision to ban gambling sponsors for such a small percentage wasn't justified.

[uneng]

I see two reasons why there isn't any kind of will from authorities to regulate it:

In religious countries donations from rich guys go to churches and similar organizations and by donating these rich guys have discounts on their income tax annualy, plus laudering money meanwhile. Since gambling is allowed, a large part of these donations funds would go to gambling instead of donations

This is not the reason why gambling is not legal everywhere. Church might advice someone not to gamble because once you are addicted then you will gamble everything you have and will harm an individual and his home and not for the donations. No one is forcing anyone to donate and even if there is a casino the people who wants to donate will still keep on doing that.

I can't say for every country, but on mine religions not only advice someone not to gamble, as they have huge influence inside the political national sphere, actually several congressmen belong to religious organizations. They are prayers, preachers, gospel artists and so on. Naturally they will prevent the country from legalizing gambling for the reason I mentioned before.

Corrupt authorities profit from illegal gambling, as they charge payments from these illegal operations to turn a blind eye to their businesses. If gambling were legal, some corrupt agents would lose a big source of profit.

Politicians makes the law and if they make them legal then they will earn more money in terms of taxes and the corrupt authorities can work full time even if it is a legal casino and corrupt agents has nothing to do with making the law.

Corrupt politicians godfather corrupt agents. All of them are benefited and connected.

[semobo]

Governments decide what things are allowed and not, so no one can oppose it unless the leader changes and who willing to lift the ban which was proposed in the earlier ruling period. But banning the sponsorship may not affect the gambling industry which only affects the revenue of the club.

[Ryker1]

To me, it is pretty simple. If gambling is legal in your country, allow gambling promotions and sponsors but if gambling is not legal then it is justified to ban the sponsors because it might lead to illegal gambling eventually.

The government doesn't stop their citizens from spending money on alcohol right so they should have no control to stop them from gambling either. If they are worried about the underage kids gambling then make the casinos and sportsbooks even more strict about their KYC or just cancel their license.

Well, you have a good point here and that right, it is a pretty simple idea if governments want to stop sponsorship related to any gambling businesses. What is the purpose of the gambling site following governments restriction and following rules and regulations and the most among of all is gambling site should have a license. I think they pay their taxes, this is not fear to them, governments milking on the gambling industry for how many years collecting revenue from gambling. Now, how they will have also generate profit if they don't have users in the first place.