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May 30, 2021, 06:19:06 AM
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As if the fees really are a big hindrance for the gamblers, whatever the market situation, gamblers would still continue to play and enjoy. Besides, a 10 USD fee difference is not really huge, it will not stop them from gambling
For the usual gamblers, it doesn't matter. But not every one of us has that the same situation that we don't care about the fees. There are those small gamblers that a $2-$5 fee is already a big matter to them.
They are stupid if they will force using bitcoin. We have a lot of altcoins as an alternative, they just simply use it and their worries will be gone.
With some altcoins that you can pay less than $1 as a transaction fee, gambling should not be a problem.

Let's continue having fun, regardless of the market situation.
I won't call them stupid but there really are gamblers that depending on it for their gambling needs and some casinos don't accept altcoins and mainly focuses with bitcoin.

trading is different from gambling so we should stop comparing it or making it like they should compe together when making a decision.
The comparison of gambling and trading I think will never stop. From the perspective of other people, they'll always look at both things as the same.
I agree unless they will use a stable coin in gambling.
Yes, that's another different thing.



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June 01, 2021, 05:11:54 PM
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The logic is very simple, most gamblers do not really make money in gambling, most of them lose but they can be profitable investing in crypto due to the bull run, therefore they have a lot of money to burn in gambling.
There is an opposite side of it too. I have seen a user who was never in gambling but he started to gamble with his investment while bitcoin price dropped significantly last year. He thought that he could manage to make profit by gambling and it will help him to recover the amount what he had lost for the price drop. At first he was able to make few BTC profit, but eventually he lost all of his bitcoin and become so much disappointed. I remember, he said in the chat that he have no option left without committing suicide. Everyone tried to convince him at chat but don't know what he did later.
If I were you I wouldn't count much into some random chat messages. People can claim almost everything and in my personal opinion mostly this is just a way to gain interest of others to make them pay for you. This doesn't work in 99%, but in 1% they are successfull. This seems to be enough obviously. Dont waste your time listen to these chat messages.
While it is difficult to trust what you read online at the same time what he says aligns itself perfectly with many things that we have seen happening, after all while I was not really that affected by the crash that happened at the same time I have no doubts that there were people that lost everything during the crash and are probably considering doing something similar as not only they lost their money but lost even the money of their friends and family members.

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June 01, 2021, 06:32:14 PM
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While it is difficult to trust what you read online at the same time what he says aligns itself perfectly with many things that we have seen happening, after all while I was not really that affected by the crash that happened at the same time I have no doubts that there were people that lost everything during the crash and are probably considering doing something similar as not only they lost their money but lost even the money of their friends and family members.

It's very possible that they've loan or barrow money from their family or close friends where they spend everything into gambling, there's no other options and suicide for them is quickest solutions from this failures.

There are many similar actions and it's been shared here not just with gambling but also losing with trading, those kind of people who thinks that it's better to end their life than to continue trying to recover.

I don't want to see myself like that, if, even I lose everything I will choose to live and continue my life than to think
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June 05, 2021, 06:14:53 PM
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Don't talk too much about the dump as currently, a pump is happening.

Check out the https://coinmarketcap.com/.. bitcoin has an 11% rise today and altcoins have ever better rise.
This should give value to your bitcoin, up 11%, is an extra profit.

So this is it, sometimes it's bullish, sometimes it's bearish, nothing special.
That's very usual.

We dump, we see the pump.

We see a small percentage for the pump but we've got more than it during the dump. But that's it, as said, it's very normal.

Bitcoin is struggling to break the $40k, it was supposed to be easy if the market is bullish, but it seems not already. A rise is good but we should not make an instant judgment yet to ride with it, we have to be careful as bitcoin has not fully recovered yet, it could fall again and cause panic, you know that's how the market worked, it's very unpredictable, so we have to be smart all the time.
Well, that could be the conclusion that we're no longer in the bull run if that's the attitude of it if it cannot be back on the $40k level again. But like today, it has broken $40k and I saw it. But that doesn't mean the bull run is back again.

These are really the usual fluctuations that we'll see in the market. And I'll just include the tx fees, it's such a good thing to see that it's not that high as the other cryptos during transfers and those who are not confident to gamble in btc should be confident now.

It's not the kind of run that we saw in the past months, it's slowing down and bullish sentiment might slowly be going down now. Though there are some bullish movements I believe bearish is more dominant as we are heading for a heavy correction.

In connection to that, when the market is less congested, we can expect an affordable transaction fee and gambling would be back to normal for small-time gamblers.
I really think the worst is behind us, the correction that we saw is massive and that is undeniable however now the ones that remain not only have a stronger belief in the technology of bitcoin they are also the ones that did not took as many risks, as I really believe that even if the correction started with the declarations of Musk this would not have happened if we did not have many traders using a lot of leverage to try to earn more profits only to get margin calls and lose everything in a matter of minutes.

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June 06, 2021, 11:12:14 AM
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I really think the worst is behind us, the correction that we saw is massive and that is undeniable however now the ones that remain not only have a stronger belief in the technology of bitcoin they are also the ones that did not took as many risks, as I really believe that even if the correction started with the declarations of Musk this would not have happened if we did not have many traders using a lot of leverage to try to earn more profits only to get margin calls and lose everything in a matter of minutes.
However, the correction now is too deep from the last high price. People are not thought that the price from $64k and get down slowly and reach the $35k level. Those people regretted not selling their bitcoin when the price was $50k-$60k, but that is no use to regret. If they can calm down and patients wait for the next rally, they can see that this is their chance to buy more bitcoin and not use it for playing gambling because they can use altcoin to gamble.

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June 06, 2021, 11:43:29 AM
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I really think the worst is behind us, the correction that we saw is massive and that is undeniable however now the ones that remain not only have a stronger belief in the technology of bitcoin they are also the ones that did not took as many risks, as I really believe that even if the correction started with the declarations of Musk this would not have happened if we did not have many traders using a lot of leverage to try to earn more profits only to get margin calls and lose everything in a matter of minutes.
However, the correction now is too deep from the last high price. People are not thought that the price from $64k and get down slowly and reach the $35k level. Those people regretted not selling their bitcoin when the price was $50k-$60k, but that is no use to regret. If they can calm down and patients wait for the next rally, they can see that this is their chance to buy more bitcoin and not use it for playing gambling because they can use altcoin to gamble.
If they still continue to believe in the word "HODL", they would hold, but if not they will panic, that's the usual scenario we witness, a bull run makes the market overvalued, people always expect a high price, but when the price correct they easily panic. Anyway, we are gamblers, so it should not affect us, by the way the fee for bitcoin transaction now is very cheap.



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June 06, 2021, 11:58:37 AM
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However, the correction now is too deep from the last high price. People are not thought that the price from $64k and get down slowly and reach the $35k level. Those people regretted not selling their bitcoin when the price was $50k-$60k, but that is no use to regret.
Nah, this wasn't anticipated one bit. No one would have even believed its possibility from such a high and now, its almost half the price. Its unimaginable but thats the reality of the trade. Its not about what you imagine it to be and won't play into your analysis more accurately. At the moment, I believe a lot of us, I inclusive isn't 3xp3cting any further bear move but then, its still possible isn't it? Lol, we can only wish not.

Those that still regret not to have sold at the ATH, I think its a blessing in disguise for those of them that can hodl or perhaps, now is the time to pump some more new money into the market and hodl altogether in anticipation for the next bullrun. When would that be, we can't tell though, there is a 4 years pattern at play. Is it really that? And would it be worth it to hold for another 4years?

The moves is the only thing that could answer that.
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June 06, 2021, 12:39:50 PM
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Anyway, we are gamblers, so it should not affect us, by the way the fee for bitcoin transaction now is very cheap.

Yes, the transaction is very cheap now, it's good to gamble with bitcoin.

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We should gamble more now, bitcoin price is not pumping so that's another win if it will recover.

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June 06, 2021, 01:59:14 PM
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Anyway, we are gamblers, so it should not affect us, by the way the fee for bitcoin transaction now is very cheap.

Yes, the transaction is very cheap now, it's good to gamble with bitcoin.

the lowest fee I've seen this year so far.


source : https://mempool.space/

We should gamble more now, bitcoin price is not pumping so that's another win if it will recover.

You should not suggest others to gamble more just because the fee is cheap and/or because the price of btc is not pumping.
You are free gamble more with that reasons as you are gambling with your own money but dont suggest others to do it with that reasons as it is not wise at all.
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June 06, 2021, 03:40:44 PM
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Yes, the transaction is very cheap now, it's good to gamble with bitcoin.

the lowest fee I've seen this year so far.


source : https://mempool.space/

We should gamble more now, bitcoin price is not pumping so that's another win if it will recover.

You should not suggest others to gamble more just because the fee is cheap and/or because the price of btc is not pumping.
You are free gamble more with that reasons as you are gambling with your own money but dont suggest others to do it with that reasons as it is not wise at all.
For others: always gambler whenever you are ready to lose the money only, dont gamble more because of these above reasons.

The call to gamble more is really a bit strange, but in terms of information content, it's a good post. I have some assets in the casino and I do not follow the cost of transactions, and thanks to him I learned that now is a good time to move it)
And I do not think that his appeal will attract someone who did not want to gamble and after reading the post, they will sharply want to  Cheesy

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June 06, 2021, 04:22:17 PM
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However, the correction now is too deep from the last high price. People are not thought that the price from $64k and get down slowly and reach the $35k level. Those people regretted not selling their bitcoin when the price was $50k-$60k, but that is no use to regret.
Nah, this wasn't anticipated one bit. No one would have even believed its possibility from such a high and now, its almost half the price. Its unimaginable but thats the reality of the trade. Its not about what you imagine it to be and won't play into your analysis more accurately. At the moment, I believe a lot of us, I inclusive isn't 3xp3cting any further bear move but then, its still possible isn't it? Lol, we can only wish not.

Those that still regret not to have sold at the ATH, I think its a blessing in disguise for those of them that can hodl or perhaps, now is the time to pump some more new money into the market and hodl altogether in anticipation for the next bullrun. When would that be, we can't tell though, there is a 4 years pattern at play. Is it really that? And would it be worth it to hold for another 4years?

The moves is the only thing that could answer that.

Everyone must be surprised by the drop in Bitcoin price so far, imagine after Bitcoin managed to hit the ATH price of $65k. Now that it's under $40k,
it's only natural that people end up worrying about it. There's not much we can do, other than holding Bitcoin until the price goes up again. We can
prove it by holding for the next 4 years, whether the price of Bitcoin will rise much higher, in 4 years later. If in 4 years Bitcoin can go much higher,
it will be the luck of people who have bought Bitcoin from now on. Then with the increase in the price of Bitcoin it doesn't seem to affect some people
to keep gambling, including me still use Bitcoin when playing online gambling. Because I've been used to gambling using Bitcoin long ago,
so if I have to use altcoins to gamble, I feel uncomfortable.

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June 07, 2021, 06:25:39 AM
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If they still continue to believe in the word "HODL", they would hold, but if not they will panic, that's the usual scenario we witness, a bull run makes the market overvalued, people always expect a high price, but when the price correct they easily panic. Anyway, we are gamblers, so it should not affect us, by the way the fee for bitcoin transaction now is very cheap.
If they believe in bitcoin, I am sure they will still hold it, no matter what happens with bitcoin. But if they panic, that will be a different story because they will fast sell their bitcoin without thinking twice or holding for more. Even if the bitcoin transaction fee is now cheap, I think we can still use altcoin to gamble because bitcoin can increase anytime.

Nah, this wasn't anticipated one bit. No one would have even believed its possibility from such a high and now, its almost half the price. Its unimaginable but thats the reality of the trade. Its not about what you imagine it to be and won't play into your analysis more accurately. At the moment, I believe a lot of us, I inclusive isn't 3xp3cting any further bear move but then, its still possible isn't it? Lol, we can only wish not.

Those that still regret not to have sold at the ATH, I think its a blessing in disguise for those of them that can hodl or perhaps, now is the time to pump some more new money into the market and hodl altogether in anticipation for the next bullrun. When would that be, we can't tell though, there is a 4 years pattern at play. Is it really that? And would it be worth it to hold for another 4years?

The moves is the only thing that could answer that.
We hope this will end soon and we will see the bull run comes again. But if that does not happen, we can only wait and still buy bitcoin at a low price. But some people will still use bitcoin with the current price because they think it is a good time for them to try to increase the bitcoin amount they have from gambling. I am sure the pump will coming soon, and we need to prepare ourselves for that coming. We still do not know when the next bull run will come but it will be back to the market, and we have more times to wait for that moment.

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June 07, 2021, 07:27:38 PM
 #593

Anyway, we are gamblers, so it should not affect us, by the way the fee for bitcoin transaction now is very cheap.

Yes, the transaction is very cheap now, it's good to gamble with bitcoin.

the lowest fee I've seen this year so far.


source : https://mempool.space/

We should gamble more now, bitcoin price is not pumping so that's another win if it will recover.

You should not suggest others to gamble more just because the fee is cheap and/or because the price of btc is not pumping.
You are free gamble more with that reasons as you are gambling with your own money but dont suggest others to do it with that reasons as it is not wise at all.
For others: always gambler whenever you are ready to lose the money only, dont gamble more because of these above reasons.


Why not? I'm just sticking to the topic, OP asked if we are still playing with BTC or other coins when bitcoin was at  $50k.. so the main intention of the question is if we still gamble despite the high transaction fee or we shift to altcoins to save on a transaction fee.

So as a gambler, I suggest that you gamble more when the transaction fee is cheap so you can save.

If you are here for a reason, that means you are a gambler, I say gamble more to enjoy more.. What do you guys think? Do you gamble to lose more money? Then you are not a responsible gambler if you have that kind of mindset.

Me just thinking of taking advantage of the situation.

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June 09, 2021, 02:03:49 PM
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Yes, the transaction is very cheap now, it's good to gamble with bitcoin.

the lowest fee I've seen this year so far.


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We should gamble more now, bitcoin price is not pumping so that's another win if it will recover.

You should not suggest others to gamble more just because the fee is cheap and/or because the price of btc is not pumping.
You are free gamble more with that reasons as you are gambling with your own money but dont suggest others to do it with that reasons as it is not wise at all.
For others: always gambler whenever you are ready to lose the money only, dont gamble more because of these above reasons.

The call to gamble more is really a bit strange, but in terms of information content, it's a good post. I have some assets in the casino and I do not follow the cost of transactions, and thanks to him I learned that now is a good time to move it)
And I do not think that his appeal will attract someone who did not want to gamble and after reading the post, they will sharply want to  Cheesy
The mempool has been quite empty for some time which tells me that we are still very far away from seeing a recovery, most of the time when we see the price going up there are a lot of transactions on the mempool waiting to be confirmed as everyone is moving their coins to exchanges, the fact this is not happening means that most people are just storing their coins, however if there is something you need to do with your coins or you want to consolidate some inputs this is the perfect time to do so.

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June 09, 2021, 02:51:31 PM
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Anyway, we are gamblers, so it should not affect us, by the way the fee for bitcoin transaction now is very cheap.

Yes, the transaction is very cheap now, it's good to gamble with bitcoin.

the lowest fee I've seen this year so far.


source : https://mempool.space/

We should gamble more now, bitcoin price is not pumping so that's another win if it will recover.

Which leads me to think that we should not ever bet with Ethereum Wink I hope that the transaction fees keep low, it was a big problem in the old times before the lighting network was fully active and it made bitcoin as difficult to trade as ethereum tokens are today if not more. I guess this is a bit by design, so that large amounts are favoured on the bitcoin network while other chains get the low volume exchanges. Anyway, good new for fair betting and bitcoin based games... the best-

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June 09, 2021, 08:42:37 PM
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Anyway, we are gamblers, so it should not affect us, by the way the fee for bitcoin transaction now is very cheap.

Yes, the transaction is very cheap now, it's good to gamble with bitcoin.

the lowest fee I've seen this year so far.


source : https://mempool.space/

We should gamble more now, bitcoin price is not pumping so that's another win if it will recover.

Which leads me to think that we should not ever bet with Ethereum Wink I hope that the transaction fees keep low, it was a big problem in the old times before the lighting network was fully active and it made bitcoin as difficult to trade as ethereum tokens are today if not more. I guess this is a bit by design, so that large amounts are favoured on the bitcoin network while other chains get the low volume exchanges. Anyway, good new for fair betting and bitcoin based games... the best-

That would not take long, the price will eventually back up and the fees as well. If we want to see that fee again, it should be okay for us also for bitcoin to go down and people will not hype it to see a bull run. As the market is slowly recovering, we are also now seeing an increase in fee, but the fee is still below $1 which is good.

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June 09, 2021, 11:34:50 PM
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Anyway, we are gamblers, so it should not affect us, by the way the fee for bitcoin transaction now is very cheap.

Yes, the transaction is very cheap now, it's good to gamble with bitcoin.

the lowest fee I've seen this year so far.


source : https://mempool.space/

We should gamble more now, bitcoin price is not pumping so that's another win if it will recover.

Which leads me to think that we should not ever bet with Ethereum Wink I hope that the transaction fees keep low, it was a big problem in the old times before the lighting network was fully active and it made bitcoin as difficult to trade as ethereum tokens are today if not more. I guess this is a bit by design, so that large amounts are favoured on the bitcoin network while other chains get the low volume exchanges. Anyway, good new for fair betting and bitcoin based games... the best-

That would not take long, the price will eventually back up and the fees as well. If we want to see that fee again, it should be okay for us also for bitcoin to go down and people will not hype it to see a bull run. As the market is slowly recovering, we are also now seeing an increase in fee, but the fee is still below $1 which is good.
Fees under 1$ won't hurt you so much if you will put it on a casino, You can regain it easily. What you will care about is the withdrawal fee that the casino set. It is sometimes fixed and it is much expensive than the actual fee on mempool. After months of overpriced fees, We are back again on cheap fees. I can quit now on using TRX for my casino transactions and go back into BTC.
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June 09, 2021, 11:46:16 PM
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Anyway, we are gamblers, so it should not affect us, by the way the fee for bitcoin transaction now is very cheap.

Yes, the transaction is very cheap now, it's good to gamble with bitcoin.

the lowest fee I've seen this year so far.


source : https://mempool.space/

We should gamble more now, bitcoin price is not pumping so that's another win if it will recover.
Been an unusual sight to be seen since 1 sat/byte fee is something that you cant see often.I had experience 5-10 as the lowest for this year but not 1.
Im really much glad that made out some transactions with very cheap fees and not only on making transaction for gambling but also with some transferring
of my funds into some wallets since fees are way too low unlike on a very clogged network where fees is almost $10 each tx.

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June 10, 2021, 05:29:25 AM
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Bitcoin, stable coin or fiat money no matter what, they are still money which is having value right now so one who wants to gamble and have money in whatever form they can use it for the purpose. And also there are gambling sites which convert your deposits into USD value after depositing means it is just a value interm of dollar no matter which coins we are used.

If you play carefully and do not bet on the entire deposit or most of it, then fluctuations of 20% are sensitive for you, right? It is probably unpleasant to know that your deposit has decreased by 20% due to fluctuations in the bitcoin rate, despite the fact that you have not even made a single bet. Many gamblers are not satisfied with this option and they are looking for stable coins.
Most stable coin just use the coin which is actually deposited by the user which is not I am talking about, there are gambling site which converts our despoit into USD balance and it only will get reflected in our wallet balance which means we can choose that gambling site to bet since we are not going to affected by the price fluctuations.
That is exactly the method adopted by a gambling site I once gambled with beside the crypto value is the USDT balance however as the value of the crypto drops so also the USDT value, in a bearish season it quite difficult for gamblers to make decent profits because their earnings also drops however if they continue to hodl in anticipation of the bullish season all well and good but if the bears continue to dominate the market, then the only option is to always  exchange their  profits to a stable coin.

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June 10, 2021, 12:06:38 PM
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I'm playing with BTC and my goal was not in USD my goal was to have more and more Bitcoin so it doesn't matter for me what price is the Bitcoin now my goal was to increase my Bitcoin but of course if the Bitcoin's price is increase it means that the transaction will increase too that's what my concern the most the withdrawal fee sometimes becomes expensive.

In terms of bet amount, no matter what price of the BTC is my minimum bet doesn't change at all.

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