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February 12, 2021, 10:27:15 PM
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BitShares is a well-known platform for cryptocurrencies exchange. They say :

"BitShares is a decentralized platform designed to provide a more efficient global payment network and is commonly used for securely trading cryptocurrencies without any intermediaries."
see https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares/

This is a lie and a fraud !  The platform is not decentralized and does not provide security for funds. A cryptocurrency, that you transfer to the BitShares wallet, is actually sent to some outside company controlled by a certain person. And it depends only on the goodwill and honesty of this person, whether you get your money back or not. For your cryptocurrency you get a "debt certificate". In my case, I sent ETH to the BitShares wallet and I received open.ETH in return, which I kept there. A centralized company, which took my ETH, is OpenLedger. What happened with OpenLedger ? It disappeared with my ETH. See here: https://safenetforum.org/t/open-ledger-dex-has-closed-all-activities/32312
What happens with my open.ETH ? It could not be transformed back to ETH. I can sell it inside BitShares wallet with 99% discount.  Below I put a screenshot from my BitShares wallet, you can see that I have 0.1497 ETH blocked in the wallet and it could not be withdrawn.

You can say me that it is not a problem of the BitShares platform. Yes, but it could happen with any other type of assets you keep in the wallet. The platform does not provide any security of the funds and you can lose all your money one day. The BitShares company never warn the users about this kind of risks. I strongly recommend never use BitShares platform for any type of operations with cryptocurrencies.



At the end I would like to show you a CEO of OpenLedger, Ronny Boesing, a guy who has stolen my 0.1497 ETH using BitShares platform. He probably bought himself a yacht already.





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February 13, 2021, 07:04:59 AM
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So you used a bridge to move ETH (or what was supposed to be ETH) into Bitshares, and then the bridge burned down. Yeah that sucks. While I don't think he went out and bought a yacht with your $275, its possible they kept a hundred grand or so in coins. Sounds like most of what was lost was MAID.

The OpenLedger guy is pretty active on Twitter. You can ask him about what do there. I recommend not accusing him of scamming or anything at first as he'll be less inclined to help you.

Out of curiosity, what were you planning on buying at Bitshares? I notice its undergoing a pump, but other than that I can't imagine anything new is happening over there.





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February 13, 2021, 07:26:47 AM
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Thanks for this warning. Yesterday, I saw some gains on BTS/USDT and wanted to buy some of them on the Binance platform, I didn't think they were a exchange platform. Cheesy
What was the value that you bought/sent ETH/open.ETH? And did you use the platform during that period to get notifications?
The point of their claim that they are a decentralized platform and their use of a third party makes it impossible to trust them.





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February 13, 2021, 08:19:16 AM
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While I don't think he went out and bought a yacht with your $275
The total quantity of scammed Open.ETH is 6775 (see the screenshot), so 12 millions dollars is enough to buy a yacht. But there are also Open.BTC, Open.DOGE etc. He is very rich, this guy, now.


The OpenLedger guy is pretty active on Twitter. You can ask him about what do there. I recommend not accusing him of scamming or anything at first as he'll be less inclined to help you.
I sent a message to OpenLedger, using the form here https://openledger.info/contacts/
Also I sent email to BitShares using the contact email dbis@bitshares.org, which they provide here: https://bitshares.org/#/
No reply in both cases.

Out of curiosity, what were you planning on buying at Bitshares? I notice its undergoing a pump, but other than that I can't imagine anything new is happening over there.
I wanted to buy BitShares because I think that the future belongs to decentralized platforms. But since the price of BTS was slowly decreasing during long time, I bought only 283 BTS, and left the rest of my money in Open.ETH, thinking that my funds are safe. But it turned out that BitShares team always lies saying that their platform is decentralized. There are serious risks and now I want to warn others.
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February 13, 2021, 08:44:43 AM
Last edit: February 13, 2021, 09:03:07 AM by Inlite
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Thanks for this warning. Yesterday, I saw some gains on BTS/USDT and wanted to buy some of them on the Binance platform, I didn't think they were a exchange platform.
I don't think that you can lose BTS as I lost Open.ETH, in this sense it is safe. And the price of BTS could go up in the short period, because something crazy is going on on the market now. But in long term, I don't think that buying BTS is a good idea, because their platform is very dangerous for users. No one will use this BitShares exchange in future.   

What was the value that you bought/sent ETH/open.ETH? And did you use the platform during that period to get notifications?
Initially I sent 0.231562 ETH to the BitShares wallet, I bought 283 BTS and the rest of my money I left in Open.ETH up to now. I made this investment 29.01.2018 (see the screenshot), and the price of ETH at that time was about ~1000$ ( https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/ ). Then the prices went down and I left my investments for better times. Recently I decided to check how much I earned during 3 years and surprisingly I discovered that my money were actually stolen. I never received notifications neither from BitShares, nor from OpenLedger.
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February 14, 2021, 01:50:47 AM
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While I don't think he went out and bought a yacht with your $275
The total quantity of scammed Open.ETH is 6775 (see the screenshot), so 12 millions dollars is enough to buy a yacht. But there are also Open.BTC, Open.DOGE etc. He is very rich, this guy, now.

That's just the circulating supply of OPEN.ETH, not necessarily reflective of how much ETH was unfairly trapped when the bridge was removed. There's less than 30 OPEN.ETH for sale on the entire BitShares orderbook.

Also, you didn't mention that Open Ledger closed up shop back in April 2020. You would have had a better chance of getting your money back last year.

Not much you can do if they're not responding, I understand. Maybe just remind everybody what this guy did if you see him trying to build something new in the future.





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February 14, 2021, 07:01:12 AM
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That's just the circulating supply of OPEN.ETH, not necessarily reflective of how much ETH was unfairly trapped when the bridge was removed. There's less than 30 OPEN.ETH for sale on the entire BitShares orderbook.
As far as I understand, the circulating supply is what physically exists inside BitShares platform now. If somebody luckily removed his open.ETH last year from Bitshares using OpenLedger bridge, the circulating supply of open.ETH would decrease.
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That's just the circulating supply of OPEN.ETH, not necessarily reflective of how much ETH was unfairly trapped when the bridge was removed. There's less than 30 OPEN.ETH for sale on the entire BitShares orderbook.
As far as I understand, the circulating supply is what physically exists inside BitShares platform now. If somebody luckily removed his open.ETH last year from Bitshares using OpenLedger bridge, the circulating supply of open.ETH would decrease.

Taking a look at the list of holders, I'm impressed that over 5000 Bitshares accounts exist:



So a bit less than half of the circulating OPEN.ETH is held by 1 account which hasn't been active since 2019. I can't figure out who it belongs to, except for a dormant Bitshares whale.

Don't know if you saw this already:

https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/k1yc04/openledger_dex_alleged_fraud_investigation/

You're not the only one having problems, it would appear. Should probably confer with those guys as I don't think anyone else on the forum has used Bitshares in approx. 1 million years.

What would be interesting to me is the ETH address that holds the funds that are supposed to be locked. There's probably a smart contract address that has control over those funds. It would be good to see what they're up to.

Also, there is a thread for OpenLedger on the forum, its been inactive for over a year but I referenced this discussion there.





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Don't know if you saw this already:
https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/k1yc04/openledger_dex_alleged_fraud_investigation/
You're not the only one having problems, it would appear. Should probably confer with those guys as I don't think anyone else on the forum has used Bitshares in approx. 1 million years.
Yes, I saw this post on Reddit and I sent email to hwtu20 (at) protonmail dot com to get in touch few days ago. No reply for the moment.

Also, there is a thread for OpenLedger on the forum, its been inactive for over a year but I referenced this discussion there.
Thank you very much for making this discussion more visible. I sent also request to CoinMarketCap using this form
https://support.coinmarketcap.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000562051
asking to add the information on the BitShare page about scam risks, but I don't think they will do it.

In the instruction, how to launch a BitShares Cli-Wallet, here
https://dev.bitshares.works/en/master/development/apps/cli_wallet.html
they use an OpenLedger as an example. It looks like BitShares and OpenLedger are affiliated companies.


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All of what you describe here, the problem is not BitShares but the problem of OL, and all assets that have created OL open.BTC, open.ETH etc., together with disappearing OL, have also become nothing. I had BTS on the platform, and I can log in from another interface with my private key and easily transfer my tokens

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All of what you describe here, the problem is not BitShares but the problem of OL
BitShares does not provide security for funds. BitShares is not decentralized. BitShares and OpenLedger are probably affiliated. BitShares is a perfect instrument for stealing money because they can create a new "bridge", collect money, then destroy the bridge, and repeat this again and again. That's why BitShares is a scam project.
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Can anyone access this page? It has not been available to me for several months ..
https://bitshares.openledger.info/
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