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February 13, 2021, 05:32:30 PM
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It's crazy to think it's possible to game the system like this.  Are results not available live for their audience?  This seems like a standard for anything that is to be bet on.  If this wasn't their first time, they must have thought they found a loophole to win every bet.  I'd bet they did quite a bit of celebrating their new money printing method before the cops closed in on them and ruined their day.  Probably many more ruined days in their future as well...

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February 13, 2021, 05:51:11 PM
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The article is lack of information so what we can do here is speculating.
Yahoo says that they are arrested on suspicion of gambling, there is a lack of clarity as how much delay will be there while telecasting even to take advantage .

I don't know how harsh the Indian laws are, but I think this particular case will be a show trial. 
They were caught in Bangladesh and not in India and they have a strict ban on gambling while in India online gambling is a grey area.

It's crazy to think it's possible to game the system like this.  Are results not available live for their audience?  This seems like a standard for anything that is to be bet on.  If this wasn't their first time, they must have thought they found a loophole to win every bet. 
May be there is a delay while telecasting the matches and these gamblers thought about taking advantage in live bets. The reason they were caught is because they were somehow inside the stadium when no one was allowed in the audience because of strict COVID protocol, if not there is no way they will be behind bars for making bets inside stadium.
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February 13, 2021, 06:04:07 PM
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The article is lack of information so what we can do here is speculating.

Okay, let me clear it by giving you more references from other journal.

https://www.newagebd.net/article/129473/bcb-sues-three-indians-for-cricket-gambling-in-chattogram

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.crictracker.com/three-indians-arrested-at-chittagong-stadium-during-bangladesh-vs-west-indies-test/%3famp

https://www.newagebd.net/article/129400/three-indians-detained-on-suspicion-of-cricket-gambling

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sentinelassam.com/amp/international/3-indians-held-in-bangladesh-523830

It's only in a few rare case where Bangladesh allows gambling and if only these people follows the legal way of betting, they won't be in question. Hard regulation will be follow surely after the issue.
All types of gambling or betting is a crime here and it is declared by high court in Bangladesh few days ago. Just have a look on my next reference given in below.

https://calvinayre.com/2020/02/13/casino/gambling-illegal-in-bangladesh-declares-high-court/

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February 13, 2021, 06:11:40 PM
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The news is quite interesting to me because the gamblers are so much tricky that they use live match for batting in different countries by visiting the playground and used the time in betting. Because it becomes live after finishing the ball, so they used that time in betting at staying in the field.

In Bangladesh, all types of gambling is prohibited and considered as crime, cryptocurrency too. They will be charged due to violation of law. The news published by Dhakatribune. News link is here,
https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2021/02/07/three-indians-arrested-over-illegal-betting-in-zacs

Well, they broke the law. Every person should respect the visiting county's rules, liking it or not.

For example, I'm Bulgarian, and here is full of Israeli tourist coming to gamble for very similar reasons.

 

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February 13, 2021, 06:22:24 PM
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The news is quite interesting to me because the gamblers are so much tricky that they use live match for batting in different countries by visiting the playground and used the time in betting. Because it becomes live after finishing the ball, so they used that time in betting at staying in the field.

In Bangladesh, all types of gambling is prohibited and considered as crime, cryptocurrency too. They will be charged due to violation of law. The news published by Dhakatribune. News link is here,
https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2021/02/07/three-indians-arrested-over-illegal-betting-in-zacs

Well, they broke the law. Every person should respect the visiting county's rules, liking it or not.

For example, I'm Bulgarian, and here is full of Israeli tourist coming to gamble for very similar reasons.

Definitely they asked for it and they got it. Knowing-fully well that the government of Indian do not accommodate nor tolerate gambling in any form, everyone knows that gambling is in any sort forbidden and these three went ahead to broke the law, so let the law dealt with them accordingly.

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February 13, 2021, 07:20:25 PM
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The news is quite interesting to me because the gamblers are so much tricky that they use live match for batting in different countries by visiting the playground and used the time in betting. Because it becomes live after finishing the ball, so they used that time in betting at staying in the field.

In Bangladesh, all types of gambling is prohibited and considered as crime, cryptocurrency too. They will be charged due to violation of law. The news published by Dhakatribune. News link is here,
https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2021/02/07/three-indians-arrested-over-illegal-betting-in-zacs
They really should be ashamed of themselves, there is nothing wrong with gambling but if it is illegal in the country in which you are residing you better follow the law, but not only that they found a way to get inside the stadium of the cricket match when it was supposed to be held with no public and if that was not bad enough those guys were also trying to exploit a delay during the play actually happening and the casino updating its results, so really there is no way to defend what they did and they deserve whatever it comes to them.



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February 13, 2021, 07:30:40 PM
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Maybe I am the only one who is glad these were arrested.  Next time maybe they will learn their lessons not to cheat!
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February 13, 2021, 07:33:26 PM
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The news is quite interesting to me because the gamblers are so much tricky that they use live match for batting in different countries by visiting the playground and used the time in betting. Because it becomes live after finishing the ball, so they used that time in betting at staying in the field.

More of an inside job to me.

It's impossible for me that those 3 culprits able to enter the stadium, breached the security and operated their operations.

As you said, Bangladesh isn't a gambling-friendly country so expect that they are strict in terms of any securites related to gambling. Anyhow, these people surely knows the risks and already accept the fact that they will be caught soon.
Definitely, some officials and people in the stadium are involved, maybe someone in the group of security and officials are working clean, and they got caught, because as like others said and read in the news it's really not allowed to enter the said premise, there are people involved or bribe or there is a big syndicate involved with those three people maybe they are also a victim by those people.
Just like on what mentioned above that i do smell out some inside job of this one but the only thing here is that they've been caught! They would be the ones to suffer the consequences though but

to know that there's something behind on that one then i wont be surprised that they would really be getting out into this mess in no time or without any hiccups.

People should really be having that common sense that once its restricted then you can really tell on what would be the actions once you've been caught.


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February 13, 2021, 07:53:09 PM
Last edit: February 15, 2021, 11:26:58 PM by just_Alice
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Looks like double cheating! They violated both the governmental guidelines regarding gambling and betting rules, so it would be fair to say they have only themselves to blame. I realize that it's very tempting because with this strategy you can put all your money and assets and win a fortune, but that's also not fair and these people paid for it.

I think there shouldn't be any delays between the live game and broadcast, or, in case that's impossible to organize - all betting should be closed prior to the game, so that there'll be no temptation for such actions.
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February 13, 2021, 09:23:49 PM
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That the regulation.
The regulation will be always a regulation, there is a rule to obey, if you break the rule, you got the punishment.
Same here, gambling is considered as a crime so if we are revealed playing gambling, we will be arrested.

And moreover in the news stated that they do illegal betting in that country and they are proven doing that.
So, whatever the reason, if that is illegal, it will be illegal and punishment is there.

But how is the online gambling site? Is that still illegal and how do the police track that to reveal?


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February 13, 2021, 09:28:57 PM
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But how is the online gambling site? Is that still illegal and how do the police track that to reveal?

This will be possible if ISP providers do give out information on a certain user would able to surf out websites which are totally prohibited.
So this will really be hard to be traced up or really a complicate process or too much hassle on their part and also
people can make use of VPN which its really hard to detect whose the one been accessing those forbidden sites online.

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February 14, 2021, 12:57:54 AM
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Well, it has to be an insider job. I hardly doubt that security in that place is that lax, especially since it was the first Test that they performed. Having the stadium inaccessible to spectators just means that the stadium itself should've been heavily guarded. It seems like they broke not only the law about trespassing into the stadium but also, possibly (not sure if this is a law), the act of taking advantage of the time difference between live play and online broadcast.

But how is the online gambling site? Is that still illegal and how do the police track that to reveal?
I think the site isn't illegal, it may not have originated from the country even. The site just has that event on their site for online users to bet, and that in itself isn't illegal imo.

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February 14, 2021, 04:17:13 AM
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the act of taking advantage of the time difference between live play and online broadcast.
Yes, that's what I want to mean. You explained the whole scenario in general and maybe that was happened there and as a visitor they should follow the country's law and rules and it's totally violation of law. So they should be punished.

But how is the online gambling site? Is that still illegal and how do the police track that to reveal?
I personally don't know what exactly happened there. I got some news from journals and already mentioned here to know about more. Cryptocurrency and all types of gambling sites are strongly prohibited and regarded as a crime there which declared by the high court (Reference link given in my previous post in this thread)

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February 14, 2021, 05:15:05 AM
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They need to know crypto casinos or sports book so they will not face any problem.
i think they did this intentionally on purpose , because as gamblers we are aware of the places and things that may Violate contracts and rules.
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When gambling in crypto is possible because we can do it anonymously, we should see it as an opportunity to bypass our country's restriction on gambling, I think it's easy to do that, just use VPN to mask your real IP address and you are good to go, these people are smart but not so smart.
We also Knew that Most of the gambling sites seek for KYC and even those who are not but when we win some Good amount then KYC will comes out to be implemented .
Those are the cases many gamblers  facing now.

Maybe I am the only one who is glad these were arrested.  Next time maybe they will learn their lessons not to cheat!
You should not be Glad but at least be rightful because Law must be implemented in any cases , but you are also correct because this will serve as lesson and also for other gamblers to be aware.

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I don't know how harsh the Indian laws are, but I think this particular case will be a show trial. 
They were caught in Bangladesh and not in India and they have a strict ban on gambling while in India online gambling is a grey area.
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Thank you for the correction. Of course Bangladesh, not India.

Do you have any information on what punishment guys might face for breaking into a stadium during a ban on mass gatherings due to a pandemic?

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February 14, 2021, 11:34:52 AM
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The news is quite interesting to me because the gamblers are so much tricky that they use live match for batting in different countries by visiting the playground and used the time in betting. Because it becomes live after finishing the ball, so they used that time in betting at staying in the field.

In Bangladesh, all types of gambling is prohibited and considered as crime, cryptocurrency too. They will be charged due to violation of law. The news published by Dhakatribune. News link is here,
https://www.dhakatribune.com/sport/cricket/2021/02/07/three-indians-arrested-over-illegal-betting-in-zacs

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"The BCB accused them of betting through digital means inside the stadium. They were formally arrested today," said Hasan Imam, a senior Chittagong police officer.

the police still accuse? means they are not certain they are involved with the accusations raised.

BCB said they would be going into investigation on how they penetrated when spectators are banned.
This is still a question because of course the stadium will be closely guarded unless the three are working with one of the stadium employees to get inside.  hufftt for me, this news seems written carelessly.

Indeed, the article is not in a good writing, and seems to have flaws. Nevertheless, the coordinators and security seems to be the one to blame as they may have been at fault for letting the 3 indians to enter the stadium. But the way they think of using digital platforms which has delay as they watch it live is smart yet risky. So being caught is part of the risks they take.

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February 14, 2021, 11:49:36 AM
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Indeed, the article is not in a good writing, and seems to have flaws. Nevertheless, the coordinators and security seems to be the one to blame as they may have been at fault for letting the 3 indians to enter the stadium. But the way they think of using digital platforms which has delay as they watch it live is smart yet risky. So being caught is part of the risks they take.

Here is the other journal references to know about more regarding this topic.
Hopefully, you can get enough information from those which he already mentioned previously. Playground is open for all, inside and outside people of the country. Yes they took very risky part and already caught by police.

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February 14, 2021, 12:07:23 PM
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Gambling will become illegal if they don't have permit or the gambling games that they play is not authorized by the government.
In my country many people are gambling illegally but sad to say some of them are only caught but maybe that is their only ways to earn money like weteng who is very illegal to my country. But in my country gambling is not commiting like crimes and I do not why Bangladesh are treating it like a crimes.
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February 14, 2021, 12:45:39 PM
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If you do not tell anyone that you are gambling and use cryptocurrency, use VPN, or better yet TOR Browser + VPN, there should be no problems with the law!
By the way, it's better not to talk about such things anywhere and to anyone, even if they are allowed...
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February 14, 2021, 01:10:33 PM
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The heading is misleading. These people were not arrested for making bets, but for fraud. There is always a delay (30 seconds to 2 minutes) between action on the field and live TV coverage. They made use of this, while making their bets. These people witnessed the match in progress and made their bets after the delivery was over (while those watching the live TV coverage, due to the lag didn't knew about the outcome). Gambling is illegal in Bangladesh, but these people were arrested for fraud and cheating, and not for taking part in gambling.
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