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February 13, 2021, 04:30:27 PM
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The group oversees about 19 funds, of which five delivered gains in excess of 100% in 2020. Its mutual funds have consistently made the top tier of rankings in recent years. Last year’s unusually high returns were aided by bets on companies benefiting from the pandemic, such as e-commerce and streaming entertainment. Prominent investments included Amazon.com Inc., Shopify Inc., Slack Technologies Inc., Zoom Video Communications Inc. and Moderna Inc.
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February 13, 2021, 05:13:26 PM
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This is an interesting move by Morgan Stanley to consider  investing directly in Bitcoin.

Alternative link > https://news.yahoo.com/morgan-stanleys-investment-arm-reportedly-162950645.html

Morgan Stanley are not new to Bitcoin, It was recently announced that they were
heavily invested in Microstrategy, holding 10.9%. We all know how Bitcoin bullish Microstratey are.

https://news.bitcoin.com/morgan-stanley-bitcoin-microstrategy/

Morgan Stanley are definitely not shy towards Bitcoin.

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February 13, 2021, 05:17:54 PM
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Hope this happens, it’d be very bullish for the price. Obviously seems to just be a rumour at the moment but I hope it happens. I think there’s going to be a lot of institutional money piling in during the next few months.


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February 13, 2021, 05:35:48 PM
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For bitcoin holders like us, it's good news considering the last pump of bitcoin was a big one, more bitcoin adaptation and news like this could easily make the market price pump maybe up to 60k$ in just the end of February.

After the Tesla announcement, a lot of companies are also considering bitcoin as a company investment I just can't wait anymore for the billion dollars or even trillion dollars companies to also use bitcoin as their assets.

Just a simple announcement for like, for example, Microsoft would ridiculously increase the market price for sure, but I still hoping to buy more bitcoin at a much cheaper price hopefully in the correction even a 40k$ would be cheaper after just a few months.
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February 13, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
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This are the guy who criticise bitcoin every bull cycle, so the guy does fud before they get their feet wet.

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February 13, 2021, 06:18:07 PM
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What was interesting to me were the opening statements:


Both of them are contracting each other:
1. Global Unit is weighing about the suitability of bitcoins whereas other firms and companies ( like Tesla) are accepting them as a whole.

Global Unit might use years to think and they would not only take steps back but would be left behind in the future. This is extremely weird since bitcoins were in the business since 2009 and what we saw were immense growth and time and again there were chances for the big companies to integrate them with bitcoins but now the price is near 50k$ , unthinkable really!!! It was too sudden and even right now they are thinking lol!

This is an interesting move by Morgan Stanley to consider  investing directly in Bitcoin.

Alternative link > https://news.yahoo.com/morgan-stanleys-investment-arm-reportedly-162950645.html

Morgan Stanley are not new to Bitcoin, It was recently announced that they were
heavily invested in Microstrategy, holding 10.9%. We all know how Bitcoin bullish Microstratey are.

https://news.bitcoin.com/morgan-stanley-bitcoin-microstrategy/

Morgan Stanley are definitely not shy towards Bitcoin.

Stanley might already be holding some bitcoins and his this move means that he might professionally tell everyone and might move the market a bit up , might be an amazing time for us to buy and hold !!

- right now it's a perfect opportunity for us to buy and hold bitcoins ! Don't sell right now we might see some big wave coming in the future.


I do think it is a suitable asset for a person or a firm who do knows how to handle it in a proper way , not for everyone else , you do need a certain basic knowledge before getting into this whole thing for sure.
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February 13, 2021, 07:03:50 PM
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At first I thought that Morgan Stanley Investment Management wanted to invest $ 150 billion in bitcoin. This is a hundred times more than Tesla invests, whose information triggered an increase in the price of bitcoin in one day by about five thousand dollars. However, it turned out that this figure is the annual turnover of this company and it is only considering the possibility of investing in bitcoin. But this is all the same good information, since there will certainly be such an investment. The more such cases, the better this market will develop, including in terms of price, and the more difficult it will be for states in the future to take any restrictive or prohibitive measures for the circulation of cryptocurrency.
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February 13, 2021, 07:25:52 PM
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it took bitcoin to be $46K before they explore cryptocurrency whether it's suitable for their investors. they couldn't just do what grayscale and microstrategy did.

Talk about btc hitting the spotlight,  another possible $1.5 billion investment on btc will send the market to a greater height,  it is Elon's move is more like an open challenge to all the rich dudes out there, I hope they are able to go through with it eventually.

150B actually. yes it's a spotlight focused to BTC, we don't see this kind of news every day on big papers like Bloomberg. If the kind of news comes up to all papers with such headlines, it will influence more investors to join the wagon.

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February 13, 2021, 08:23:35 PM
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Hope this happens, it’d be very bullish for the price. Obviously seems to just be a rumour at the moment but I hope it happens. I think there’s going to be a lot of institutional money piling in during the next few months.


*Morgan Stanley is well respected in the financial world...
$ 150B is 10x more than the Elon Musk investment. if this happens then other large companies will definitely join in. just waiting for an official statement from him.

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February 13, 2021, 09:31:18 PM
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Can start calculating how much addition to the market cap of bitcoin if that happens. But if it's not yet happening, treat it as a rumor and don't put yourselves into it while it's not official. However, there were several rumors in the past that came into reality.

Just like anyone else, who doesn't want it to happen. That's $150B and that's more than the richest man in Earth invested with the recent news that got hype and made bitcoin's price near to $50k.

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I still consider this with a grain of salt though. The keyword here is "may" bet.

Of course, who wouldn't want that billion of dollars going into the ecosystem? But we have to understand that this is bankers, they wouldn't just pour their money without getting huge returns and this could be manipulation waiting to happen. As much as this is very welcoming news, I will still be cautious about their intent.
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Morgan Stanley will not be wasting their money on anything they are not sure to produce big rate of returns, and I am sure that they are now studying when they can enter Bitcoin at the most advantageous time. This group has a strong tendency to make good choices and can see trends  and make money out of those trends. Certainly, the whole cryptocurrency industry is welcoming the presence of Morgan Stanley as this can certainly help Bitcoin to go up some more. This must be one of the fruits coming from the Tesla involvement with Bitcoin and the endorsement of no less than Elon Musk.

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Although it is only a possibility, not yet confirmed, more and more companies will be joining in. Tesla opened the way, and MicroStrategy recently
Institutional adoption is on the way, and there is no way it can be stopped.

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February 14, 2021, 05:08:29 AM
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I still consider this with a grain of salt though. The keyword here is "may" bet.

Of course, who wouldn't want that billion of dollars going into the ecosystem? But we have to understand that this is bankers, they wouldn't just pour their money without getting huge returns and this could be manipulation waiting to happen. As much as this is very welcoming news, I will still be cautious about their intent.
as long as there is a "may" which you also say, it indicates that it can happen and it cannot. All the analyzes expressed by whoever that I have never really trusted and there is nothing to believe in the analysis, it's the same as the analysis we do properly. not the same as the analysis from @elonmusk, because he is a business and has the power to make purchases that can clearly influence both analysis and action.

Obviously as a business there is something that will be done for profit no one does just because of conscience, because any money that is poured into them must be something of a profit. I agree that all are happy with the actions that are carried out as long as it is for improvement .

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February 14, 2021, 09:22:40 AM
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I still consider this with a grain of salt though. The keyword here is "may" bet.

Of course, who wouldn't want that billion of dollars going into the ecosystem? But we have to understand that this is bankers, they wouldn't just pour their money without getting huge returns and this could be manipulation waiting to happen. As much as this is very welcoming news, I will still be cautious about their intent.
Rumors are flying in and out everyday, we just have to bet that most gossip in the finance world sometimes materializes. It is right that we are to be cautious because of what they are, but we can take advantage of that, if they can manipulate the market to go up and down then we just have to know when to strike, buy when they sell and sell when they buy. This is inevitable and the only way is for us small investors to survive is to adapt to the changes, this is a dream and a nightmare for bitcoin and we can't have the other without embracing both of them.
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February 14, 2021, 11:36:15 AM
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The group oversees about 19 funds, of which five delivered gains in excess of 100% in 2020. Its mutual funds have consistently made the top tier of rankings in recent years. Last year’s unusually high returns were aided by bets on companies benefiting from the pandemic, such as e-commerce and streaming entertainment. Prominent investments included Amazon.com Inc., Shopify Inc., Slack Technologies Inc., Zoom Video Communications Inc. and Moderna Inc.
Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-13/morgan-stanley-may-bet-on-bitcoin-in-150-billion-investment-arm

In fact, Morgan Stanley's approval of Bitcoin would not be considered unusual now. Following the news that another Wall Street giant, BNY Mellon, has launched cryptocurrency custody services for its customers.

They would actually do it through an investment group called Counterpoint Global (CG), which is valued at over $ 150 billion and has become known in the world of mutual funds for its record performance.

To move forward with any investment in BTC, CG will need approval from Morgan Stanley and regulators.
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February 15, 2021, 10:13:39 AM
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Rumors are flying in and out everyday, we just have to bet that most gossip in the finance world sometimes materializes. It is right that we are to be cautious because of what they are, but we can take advantage of that, if they can manipulate the market to go up and down then we just have to know when to strike, buy when they sell and sell when they buy. This is inevitable and the only way is for us small investors to survive is to adapt to the changes, this is a dream and a nightmare for bitcoin and we can't have the other without embracing both of them.
The crypto world will always be peppered with things like this, because social media plays an active role in the chain of dissemination.
but sometimes there are those that are real but not a few that are not proven, it is difficult to determine which will be real or just a sweet spice in crypto.

I agree with you, the most important thing is if we stay on track because we ourselves are not big investors who can manage everything but take advantage of the movements they make for good interests.
from the experiences that occur, we can anticipate it, even though it is not completely true.
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February 15, 2021, 10:22:50 AM
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I still consider this with a grain of salt though. The keyword here is "may" bet.

Of course, who wouldn't want that billion of dollars going into the ecosystem? But we have to understand that this is bankers, they wouldn't just pour their money without getting huge returns and this could be manipulation waiting to happen. As much as this is very welcoming news, I will still be cautious about their intent.
Rumors are flying in and out everyday, we just have to bet that most gossip in the finance world sometimes materializes. It is right that we are to be cautious because of what they are, but we can take advantage of that, if they can manipulate the market to go up and down then we just have to know when to strike, buy when they sell and sell when they buy. This is inevitable and the only way is for us small investors to survive is to adapt to the changes, this is a dream and a nightmare for bitcoin and we can't have the other without embracing both of them.

Yes, and any news regardless if positive or negative is still publicity for bitcoin and crypto. And if this materialises then we can see the price again breaking into $50k or more. I think this is the news that put the price closer to $50k yesterday. But it doesn't have the momentum to break it.

Adoption is getting closer and maybe in the next 5 years almost 50% of any sectors or industries around the world are going to accept crypto and this is inevitable.

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