Campaign to exclude Vod from DT. Please join me.

[~DefaultTrust]

Actually Vod is idiot as he has gave my red tag with that reason:

By setting his username with a tilde (~), anyone trying to distrust him will instead trust him. You need to add ~~Default Trust

Hey Vod, I thought better of you. It turns out your brain is like a chicken LOL

[Vod]

Actually Vod is idiot as he has gave my red tag with that reason:

By setting his username with a tilde (~), anyone trying to distrust him will instead trust him. You need to add ~~Default Trust

Hey Vod, I thought better of you. It turns out your brain is like a chicken LOL

LoyceV pointed out my red tag is incorrect, so I've adjusted it.

[Quickseller]

Vod is one of the most active members on the forum, has done amazing work to find and expose scammers, is considered one of the most honest and reputable members here.  He also has the support of some of the most honest and reputable members here.

I reviewed Vod’s trust page and was able to find exactly four positive ratings involving any kind of financial transactions. I am not sure what makes you believe that Vod is “honest”. There are a small number of times in which Vod has apologized for his actions and promised to stay out of scam busting after he received harsh criticism from high ranking forum members, but I cannot recall many times in which Vod had admitted his mistakes on his own. There might have been one or two instances in which Vod removed a negative after the person received a few counter ratings, but I would see this as Vod feeling like his hand was being forced rather than correcting his mistake because he realized he was wrong on his own.

Is he prone to mistakes?  Obviously, we all are.  We're all human.

Is this situation one of those mistakes?  In my opinion, yes.  I don't know why he left you that feedback, and I don't agree with it.

Am I going to exclude Vod from my trust list over this indiscretion?  Fuck no!

It is strange that someone is okay with a mistake being outstanding and continuing to support someone without trying to pressure them into correcting their mistake. You are in effect saying that you are okay with this person being wronged.

Vod is very petty and it is stances like this that enables the pettiness.

[Vod]

Vod is very pretty

It's my boob, isn't it?  Pervert.

[suchmoon]

Vod is very pretty

Awwww... Quicksy has really turned the corner, hasn't he. Even Lauda didn't get a compliment like that. Well done.

[~DefaultTrust]

Actually Vod is idiot as he has gave my red tag with that reason:

By setting his username with a tilde (~), anyone trying to distrust him will instead trust him. You need to add ~~Default Trust

Hey Vod, I thought better of you. It turns out your brain is like a chicken LOL

LoyceV pointed out my red tag is incorrect, so I've adjusted it.

Maybe a DT member should first think about what to do? I think any adequate user should put you a tilde for such tricks.

BTW your tag is still not correct but it is normal for an idiot.



If you advise to trust me, then why are you doing it in red?

 

I think that user Vod should be red-tagged because it deceives you to trust the user ~DefaultTrust !

[Vod]

BTW your tag is still not correct but it is normal for an idiot.

You seem to have cut off your image.  Here you go. 

[scammed-by-nitro]

Vod u idiot clown.
Look at your own trust site u spam artist.

[kruglikov]

This thread is another confirmation that there are some untouchable bastards here on bitcointalk that are allowed to do whatever they want. And number one is VOD. P..e of s...t. A lonely alcoholic without any friends and life. As one forum member described him:

50 years old and hanging in a forum half a day writing 30+posts/day. Classic loser without a job.

Now I am more than convinced that all that accusation regarding VOD are nothing but the truth. Because of that he deserves to be reported here. https://www.facebook.com/antipedoalliance/ Also find the list of pedo fighters here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_advocacy_organizations. If you need his detail just follow the reference of feedback left by kulmena on his trust page. Untrusted feedbacks. Now go ahead and red tag or ban me, because of touching your untouchable and lovely VOD.  I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

[~DefaultTrust]

BTW your tag is still not correct but it is normal for an idiot.

You seem to have cut off your image.  Here you go.  

Yes.
My red-trust-list is the list of well known liars and scammers. Welcome there Vod! Feel free to invite your friends there. I collect idiots like you.

[Vod]

I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

God will judge you for not calling the police on me and saving those poor helpless children.  You are a sick fuck that needs to die. 

[OgNasty]

I actually think LoyceV and suchmoon are the biggest offenders of this issue

Cute, there you go again. Why can't you just leave me out of your drama? You've been trying to smear my reputation since I didn't pick your side in your feut with Vod, and of course since I called you out on your tacky behaviour.
Then there is the case of your PM-threat with fake negative feedback because you felt insulted, and your retaliatory Trust exclusion.

Sorry for the off-topic, but since this isn't the first time OgNasty drags me into his feut with Vod by off-topic attacks on my reputation, I feel like I had to respond. Further reading: here and here.

Is this situation one of those mistakes?  In my opinion, yes.  I don't know why he left you that feedback, and I don't agree with it.

I saw the tag earlier already, and couldn't figure out the reason after checking the Reference link. I don't consider this correct use of the Trust system.

You don't agree with the feedback, yet you support his inclusion into DT thereby supporting his feedback...  You are beginning to sound like an idiot defending your own manipulative use of the trust network.  Also, you are the one who retaliated against me with the trust network after I called you out for supporting harassment of honest users.  Funny how you guys are always the victims, never do anything that has any effect on the blockchain, always trying to educate others on how to behave, and then turn out to be the biggest lying abusing worthless pieces of trash on the forum. 

You are what's wrong with this place LoyceV and your continued support of those who are clearly in the wrong to appease your circle of trust abusers is exactly why this place continues to fade into irrelevance.  I can't wait until the pigs you lay with cover you in shit, it will be well deserved.

[Vod]

You are what's wrong with this place LoyceV and your continued support of those who are clearly in the wrong to appease your circle of trust abusers is exactly why this place continues to fade into irrelevance.  I can't wait until the pigs you lay with cover you in shit, it will be well deserved.

You said the same thing about me.  I then proved you so wrong you're losing all your alts.  So you switch to someone who has a history of being diplomatic and probably won't fight back.

I don't think LoyceV will ever lay down with you or Theymos, you shitty pig.  Unless you have proof he ran a ponzi scam, or supported a ponzi scam.  Do you?

[actmyname]

You don't agree with the feedback, yet you support his inclusion into DT thereby supporting his feedback...

This is something that should be discussed, though. The true threshold of unwarranted ratings that will make people start to question inclusions.

How many "bad ratings" should a single person get away with? What standards should the ratings uphold? Would be good to apply this to everyone in DefaultTrust, active or prospective, and see which members have a high percentage of false positives toward supposed scammers (or rather, false negatives). In reality, we should always redundantly tag accounts rather than relying on single points of failure. We should always move towards decentralization as opposed to against.

[suchmoon]

What standards should the ratings uphold?

How would you enforce any such standard?

With 100 members in DT1 the "standard" is essentially what the majority "votes" for with their inclusions. It's slow and inefficient but in the long run it seems to gravitate to some sort of nearly-sane equilibrium, as evidenced by most egregious abusers being excluded, although it also allows old abusers to resurface once the outrage over their actions fades (which might or might not be a good thing depending on your view on forgiveness and all that crap).

~

I can't wait until you try to pull one of your usual stunts on LoyceV... like including someone who red-trusts him. It shall be cringy AF.

[actmyname]

How would you enforce any such standard?

51% attack the DefaultTrust network maybe.

Actually, in its current state, you need far less power to usurp the system as long as you stay under theymos's radar.Probably in the form of exclusions etc. against opinion-based feedback. Like I said: you shouldn't be forced to always justify non-exclusions with the common excuse, "ah, but they've provided more to the forum in these feedbacks" - most of the time, that's merely a fallacious deflection, isn't it? That's why I talked about redundant negatives.

Shouldn't be a strong point of argumentation that appears every time we have this type of discussion.

[suchmoon]

Probably in the form of exclusions etc. against opinion-based feedback.

But that's not enforcement, merely a statement of how it's supposed to work (and does, for the most part). No one can tell anyone what to do and if you try you'll likely get pushback from people who would otherwise agree with you if they had the illusion that they came up with this decision independently.

However you can exclude people who don't comply with your idea of standards and since the number of exclusions is not limited you have quite a lot of leverage with that (that's abused too, see peloso). So if someone is not happy with Alice AND with other users not taking action and feels very strongly about it - the nuclear option would be to exclude Alice and everyone else who's including (or not excluding while being on DT1) Alice.

[kruglikov]

I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

God will judge you for not calling the police on me and saving those poor helpless children.  You are a sick fuck that needs to die.  

Dude I already promised you that you will die vero soon from alcoholism, cirrhosis or cancer. I saw a lot of patients like you when working in rehabilitation centre. Now you think you are OK. But An increase in the volume of the abdomen, the appearance of changes in consciousness and behavior That what is happening with you right now. Your behavior on this forum changed a lot and I am sure in the real life too. All this is the clear sign that you are sick and die very soon ALONE IN THE HOSPITAL and nobody will be around because you don't have any friends. Also no one will visit the funerals of yours. Dude you are immoral, greedy, vengeful mot.......ker who will sell out anyone for money. Thats who you are.

[Laudanum]

I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

God will judge you for not calling the police on me and saving those poor helpless children.  You are a sick fuck that needs to die.  

That is a bit heavy vod. You shouldn't be saying things that could be construed as a threat of harm or worse.
You should know that.

I don't think you really mean it though. When is the last time you ventured out of the basement?

Vod isn't getting excluded. The more corrupt and dirty the more entrenched they are.
The other mass of colluding filth know that.

The very design of the merit/trust system forces collusion. Even those that would like to act against vod dare not.

I mean even vod dare not act against other scammers on DT, he has admitted as much previously.

I guess blame the game not the players. The game exists due to the rules and parameters set in place. Those were set in place by??
Yes meta board is where you want to go with things like this.
Do you want to improve the forum for everyone? Then discussing what measures can be put in place to ensure this doesn't happen in the future to other members is just how it needs to be framed.

I mean why do DT fight so hard against the introduction of transparent objective standards as a basis for the trust system ?

Even more strange why has theymos not made sure they do?

He made the flags then wussied out on removing the subjective and abused red tags?
Simply made things far worse because he removed the requirement of proven scamming or strongly looking to set up a scam or attempting to scam. I mean not that the trust abusing scammers on DT gave one shit about what he said anyway. Neither did theymos if was all just words. I mean if he was serious then how come he 1 did nothing about red tag abuse before and then grandfathered the abuse in and even added his own extra lies into the mix by bungling the warnings that now read...several members have said they think he is a scammer when that's undeniably false.

The only way to get vod and other scumbags off DT is take it always to meta board but frame the thread as a system wide solution proposal to your specific abuse.  Meta needs to have a full page of those suggesting a move to transparent objective standards than ensure every member is treated the same and that the trust system is not diluted with bogus crap until it is useless and dangerous

I have no clue why anyone thinks rep forum is useful? Or asking other DT to help is useful.

Lol nobody is going to risk their chipmixer dust to help you.

Bust meta board apart.  Keep drumming into theymos head that the forum is corrupt and dangerous until he goes flag2 and 3 only with flag1 being tightened to specific examples of strong evidence to attempt or set up a scam.

No point marooned out here on rep.

There is only 1 person with the power to help. Dt are too entrenched and too financially incentivised to collude

Understand this.

Keep asking theymos why he's such a fan of the central banking design and not the transparent trustless system that ensures everyone is treated in the same way.

Why is he not going flags only and tightening up the lemons flag 1?

[Vod]

I don't give a s...t. If you think hi is not guilty than god will judge everyone. He knows everything! He sees everything! He hears everything! And He has the very right answer to everything.

God will judge you for not calling the police on me and saving those poor helpless children.  You are a sick fuck that needs to die. 

That is a bit heavy vod. You shouldn't be saying things that could be construed as a threat of harm or worse.

I expected such a reaction from you OG.  You have been campaigning for years to decriminalize pedophilia, and I have always spoke out against it.   People who protect people who rape children should be killed.   Edmonton State Police:  780-423-4567