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February 15, 2021, 11:53:16 PM
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Ready for the new scam site?  I found BITCOLOAN while watching Vosk youtube videos today. 

It is clearly a scam, I'm sure they will make some money for a while then bail with the funds like Bitconnect did.

Their site has little videos, and everyone has a foreign accent, so they really expect us to trust them?

Minimum deposit is about $25, or 0.0005 BTC, I might do it just for the hell of it and see how it goes.
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February 16, 2021, 09:41:41 AM
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I might do it just for the hell of it and see how it goes.

If it's a scam as you said (and more likely it is) then why deposit even 1 sat and help them to continue their crap? Even if you deposit as a test, this will help them and not you or anyone else. Undecided

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February 16, 2021, 04:45:35 PM
Last edit: February 16, 2021, 05:04:19 PM by TedMosby
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I might do it just for the hell of it and see how it goes.

If it's a scam as you said (and more likely it is) then why deposit even 1 sat and help them to continue their crap? Even if you deposit as a test, this will help them and not you or anyone else. Undecided

I've just checked the website.
the daily interest rate starting from 1.5%.
you could get $1360 from $1000 of "investment"
it's too good to be true, but it's not scam YET.

a scam is not a scam until it's scam.
with that big ROI, I doubt that this scam can run for longer than 6 months.

the domain was registered on 2020-07-04 (https://who.is/whois/bitcoloan.com)
and according to CrunchBase, it was founded on 2020-12-09 (https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/bitcoloan)

VoskCoin youtube video about BitcoLoan here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmEYWrZm9Y
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February 17, 2021, 05:02:22 AM
Last edit: February 17, 2021, 05:14:09 AM by WhyFhy
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Ready for the new scam site?  I found BITCOLOAN while watching Vosk youtube videos today.  

It is clearly a scam, I'm sure they will make some money for a while then bail with the funds like Bitconnect did.

Their site has little videos, and everyone has a foreign accent, so they really expect us to trust them?

Minimum deposit is about $25, or 0.0005 BTC, I might do it just for the hell of it and see how it goes.
so this guy knows it's a scam but is promoting it?  In the description he has ref url too.
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February 17, 2021, 04:51:14 PM
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Always funny to see how similar the model is every time, and the same people fall for it over and over again. Some BS about "democratizing finance" through decentralization, promised returns that defy any logic, paid press releases to slap big media logos on their site, fake reviews and social media pages-rinse and repeat.
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February 17, 2021, 11:20:40 PM
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Ready for the new scam site?  I found BITCOLOAN while watching Vosk youtube videos today. 

It is clearly a scam, I'm sure they will make some money for a while then bail with the funds like Bitconnect did.

Their site has little videos, and everyone has a foreign accent, so they really expect us to trust them?

Minimum deposit is about $25, or 0.0005 BTC, I might do it just for the hell of it and see how it goes.

So youre talking about this one: https://bitcoloan.com/ ?

Im much aware with that Vosk guy posting up on altcoin boards showing off some shilling out coins or projects or anything that he do able to post for the sake of youtube views.
Is this the new bitconnect? For people who had been aware of this situation or event will eventually not tend to touch with a 10ft pole on this new shitty lending project.
People are smart and wont repeat the same mistake after that incident not only limited on Bitconnect alone but also in other projects as well.

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February 18, 2021, 06:59:38 AM
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I'm in doubt with the numbers that it shows on the landing page. I'm talking about the following;
  • Borrowers worldwide
  • Lenders worldwide
  • Money lent daily
Source: https://bitcoloan.com/

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February 18, 2021, 08:21:22 AM
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I've just checked the website.
the daily interest rate starting from 1.5%.
you could get $1360 from $1000 of "investment"

That's not what you can earn, that's what you must pay back if you take a loan:


The rates are horribles, for a 90 days load you have to pay 135%  in interest. The lender gets around half of it, 81% in 90 days.
But of course, you have to find someone to take a loan in the first place and then pray to god you will get paid back.

That being said, it has nothing in common with bitconnect.

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February 18, 2021, 11:42:04 AM
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Ready for the new scam site?  I found BITCOLOAN while watching Vosk youtube videos today. 

It is clearly a scam, I'm sure they will make some money for a while then bail with the funds like Bitconnect did.

Their site has little videos, and everyone has a foreign accent, so they really expect us to trust them?

Minimum deposit is about $25, or 0.0005 BTC, I might do it just for the hell of it and see how it goes.

You know it's scam so why think about trying them? Spreading word about the situation on that site is enough and risking any amount will just give them courage to do something good tactics to market theirselves so better don't put any amount and just warn people when you see them going to invest on the site you mentioned.

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February 19, 2021, 07:03:24 AM
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lol even some of the top tier exchanges got lower minimum deposit or no minimum deposit at all, that scam wont live long lmao
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February 19, 2021, 10:03:12 AM
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Ready for the new scam site?  
why are going to be excited for a new scam site lol. its the scammers are going to be excited because they can scam again but thanks for warning us here if your intention is good and not the other way around , you know promoting a scam site because many scamers already attemtped that before . can you provide more evidence aside from the videos and accent because i dont find that suspicous

lol even some of the top tier exchanges got lower minimum deposit or no minimum deposit at all, that scam wont live long lmao
no this isnt an exchange but its a loaning business ( as written on its name )
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February 23, 2021, 10:52:45 AM
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There are some red flags in my opinion : browsing the site I can't find any info about company owners and where they run their business; interest rates you can earn by lending, or I'd better say depositing, your money are too good to be true ; and above all I can't understand where they can make a sustainable profit to be able to pay out those tremendously high interest rates.

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February 23, 2021, 11:08:43 AM
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There are some red flags in my opinion : browsing the site I can't find any info about company owners and where they run their business; interest rates you can earn by lending, or I'd better say depositing, your money are too good to be true ; and above all I can't understand where they can make a sustainable profit to be able to pay out those tremendously high interest rates.


In short this is to good to be true and so shady business model so it's automatic red flag which we really needed to avoid. I don't know if there's are people will still fall from this but as we already so many like this better to really stay away and don't look for more information since I'm sure they have group of shills that will convince those people who got curious to look at this site.

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February 25, 2021, 05:18:35 AM
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Founded way back December 2020, seems like O.P. trying to help us be aware but Ironic coz seems like he is promoting it. lol, amount does not make us feel interested.. 

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February 25, 2021, 12:42:16 PM
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Founded way back December 2020, seems like O.P. trying to help us be aware but Ironic coz seems like he is promoting it. lol, amount does not make us feel interested..  

I Tagged Voskcoin Over this


""⚠ WARNING this video is for entertainment purposes only! If you'd like to learn more about BitcoLoan and are fine with the numerous red flags and think that BitcoLoan will not end up as a ponzi scheme like Bitconnect BCC then you can view the official BitcoLoan site here - http://voskco.in/btcl​

People forget that Bitconnect quickly found itself at the center of the previous crypto bullrun, and literally, tens of thousands of users and crypto investors were using Bitconnect and making hundreds thousands and millions of dollars with BCC crypto lending and trading bot platform. Now as we enter the next huge bitcoin crypto bullrun it seems Bitconnect's successor has arrived, BitcoLoan. BitcoLoan has a clean website, nice UI, and encourages you to lend them all of your Bitcoin in exchange for earning more Bitcoin. BitcoLoan has a lot of reviews, referencing how people learned about crypto lending and have made a lot of money with their platform. However, in our research BitcoLoan has A LOT of red flags, and is eerily similar to Bitconnect. A scam is not a scam until it scams, so to date, BitcoLoan cannot be proven to be a scam or a ponzi scheme. However, to participate in BitcoLoans crypto lending platform you have to entrust your Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies to them. This puts the user at high risk that they could simply exit scam with all of your coins and money, just like Bitconnect did. BitcoLoan did pay us to review their platform, and that is exactly why we are bringing you an entertaining review of BitcoLoan!""


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=987465

Since tagging him he's changed a lot of his description and disclosed he's getting paid for reviewing it,  He also removed a sentence I tagged him over stating
 "I think that BitcoLoan will not end up as a ponzi scheme like Bitconnect BCC then you can view the official BitcoLoan site here - http://voskco.in/btcl​"
he removed his personal opinion and decided to make it informational due to that I wont be removing it .- something along those lines The fact he has a ref states to his viewers he believes in it.

Promoting likely Bitcoloan scam to gullible new miners that follow his youtube channel.
http://voskco.in/btcl (redirects to his reference)
Anything that offers 8% referrals and 1% daily returns isn't sustainable. A experienced community member with a serious following you have a duty to NOT recommend things like this.


@Condoras you've been lending a few years is there any way at all this could be legit?
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Last edit: February 26, 2021, 05:21:00 PM by ladyfox
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Minimum deposit is about $25, or 0.0005 BTC, I might do it just for the hell of it and see how it goes.
That is the dumbest thing I have read today. You say that they are a scam but then you are interested in adding fuel to their fire? Enjoy your pump and dump. Hopefully you lose those $25.
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March 26, 2021, 03:46:09 PM
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The most hilarious part can be found in their terms and conditions:

This agreement is made entirely in accordance with the law, under the jurisdiction of whichthe BitcoLoan owners are located.

This screams "SCAM".
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April 02, 2021, 07:42:43 AM
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I agree, the loan offers are ridiculously high and seem like made up customer names and profile photos of "1000+ users" participating, lending to businesses with a "4.9 rating"... That said, I made a $200 deposit and received daily interest payouts in BTC exactly as advertised, over ten days I received nearly $20 and was able to transfer it out. Pyramid scam maybe, but it's gonna work for awhile.
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Last edit: April 03, 2021, 07:30:47 AM by ninthstate
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Something weird is def going on with BitcoLoan. It's obvious but I did some research.

The website doesn't even list out the companies physical address, CEO or employees.

As one reviewer said “I don’t know who runs or owns the company...they only have UK Companies House registration, which is not enough since they are operating in the financial sector. They do need valid registration from financial regulators such as FCA… I can’t see where they make their income, I believe they would get a portion of the interest rate but I wasn’t able to find that out on their website. Not showing how they make their income is a bit worrying to me too. Cause if you don’t know how they make money, then how could you be sure that they are able to pay you those rates?”

What did I find?

First of all, the "Director" and sole shareholder of Bitcoloan LTD is Mark Lester (He's not the "Owner").
The registered address is:
60 Queen Victoria St London England Ec4n4tr Cordwainer
Incorporated on 09 Dec 2020   

A Mark Lester is also Director at many businesses that all have the same address, less than 2 miles from 60 Queen Victoria:
71-75 Shelton Street, Covent Garden, London, United Kingdom, WC2H 9JQ
A few of the businessed were dissolved.

I found 3 different dates of birth for Directors Mark Lester, related to these two addresses, in company directories online.
They could be related, different, or the same person, but what are the chances that two people have the same name, title and also offices 2 miles apart.

The company Yapily, a Banking API business is also at the 60 Queen Victoria address for what it's worth.

That’s not all. Also at the 71-75 Shelton Street, Covent Garden, London, United Kingdom, WC2H 9JQ address,
another business called Bitcoinpay Trade Ltd exists.

The sole Director is Mr Vadym Hubenko (Age: 31; Born: January 1990) Appointed: 25 Feb 2021, Company Incorporated: 25 Feb 2021, About only a month ago and 2 weeks after the domain name bitcoloan.co.uk was transferred from the server in Denver, to the UK.
Mr Vadym Hubenko  is also a member of the company Money Group International LLP https://moneygroupinternational.co.uk/ They have an "online wallet" and bitcoin exchange. Is this the dev team behind Bitcoloan?
Located at 776-778 Barking Road, London, E13 9PJ,
only 9 miles from
71-75 Shelton Street, Covent Garden, London, United Kingdom, WC2H 9JQ



Here are the websites that have the information I found above:

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https://www.datocapital.uk/companies/Bitcoloan-Ltd.html
Company type: Private Limited Company, Active
Official address: 60 Queen Victoria St London England Ec4n4tr Cordwainer
Last updated: Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:00:59 AM UTC
Sector: Activities of investment trusts
Filings: Registry: Dec 9, 2020
Company Number: 13072741
Directors: Mark Lester (born on Oct 24, 1949), 37 companies
Friday, March 19, 2021: Appointment as Director
Wednesday, December 9, 2020: Appointment as Individual or entity with significant influence or control   City Of London

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https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/J3bQ6DxqHEQ-EkxbThl6lG8U03o/appointments
Mark Lester
Total number of appointments 17
Date of birth September 1975
Most of which the address is 71-75 Shelton Street, Covent Garden, London, United Kingdom, WC2H 9JQ


https[Suspicious link removed]cutives/Mark-Lester.html
Mark Lester: Appointee List


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https://www.companysearchesmadesimple.com/company/uk/13072741/bitcoloan-ltd/
BITCOLOAN LTD

Director: Mark Lester (1)
Shareholders: Mark Lester 100.00 % Owned
09/12/2020 - Present (3 months)
Born in Dec 1977 (age: 43)

General Information
NAME- BITCOLOAN LTD
COMPANY NUMBER- 13072741
COMPANY TYPE- Private limited with Share Capital
BUSINESS ACTIVITY (SIC)- 64301 - Activities of investment trusts
INCORPORATION DATE- 09/12/2020 (3 months old)
REGISTERED ADDRESS
60 QUEEN VICTORIA ST
LONDON
EC4N 4TR
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Companies House
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13072741/filing-history
09 Dec 2020   Incorporation
Statement of capital on 2020-12-09
GBP 1
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-live.ch.gov.uk/docs/0amH93PWMswngc6WAje3qOT_cBPn7Ktk4HpMELfCcWg/application-pdf

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https://opengovuk.com/company/11991796
See: “Companies with the same officer” at the link.
There is a Mark Lester who is a Director at at least 9 businesses at the address 71-75 Shelton Street, London, Greater London, WC2H 9JQ
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https://velocity.business/uk/13072741-bitcoloan-ltd/
Bitcoloan Ltd
Company Number 13072741
EC4N 4TR, 60 Queen Victoria St, London, England (1.8 miles from 71-75 Shelton Street)
Bitcoloan Ltd was created on 2020-12-09 ~0.3 years ago

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https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/13224632-bitcoinpay-trade-ltd
At 71-75 Shelton Street, London, Greater London WC2H 9JQ
Bitcoinpay Trade Ltd
Mr Vadym Hubenko Appointed: 1 Month25 Feb 2021
Company Incorporated: 1 Month25 Feb 2021

https://www.secret-bases.co.uk/company/OC415887
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/OC415887
MONEY GROUP INTERNATIONAL LLP (9miles from 71-75 Shelton Street)
Company number: OC415887
Registered office: INTERNATIONAL HOUSE, 776-778 BARKING ROAD, LONDON, E13 9PJ
Company type: Limited Liability Partnership
Company status: ACTIVE
Incorporated on: 13 February 2017
Company number OC415887

Vadym HUBENKO (llp designated member)
Age: 31; Born: January 1990


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https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/09274045-eigen-technologies-ltd
2 companies at 60 queen vic
Yapily Banking API
T Rowe Price International Ltd
https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/company/2575666Z:LN

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https://www.nominet.uk/whois/?query=bitcoloan.co.uk&cc-num=#whois-results
URL privately registered on July 2020, updated on October 2020.
Domain/server seems to be in Denver, Colorado USA.
Registrar:
Internet Domain Services BS Corp t/a Internet.bs [Tag = IDS-BS]
URL: http://internetbs.net

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 08-Feb-2021
Expiry date: 08-Feb-2023
Last updated: 02-Mar-2021

Registration status:
Registered until expiry date.

Name servers:
bill.ns.cloudflare.com
Paislee.ns.cloudflare.com

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https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/bitcoloan.com
Positive highlights
The owner of the site has claimed the domain name for a long time
According to Xolphin SSL Check the SSL certificate is valid.
We found several positive reviews for this site
An external review system has been detected

Negative highlights
The website's owner is hiding his identity on WHOIS using a paid service
This website has only been registered recently.
The Alexa rank is high, but the site young
We determined this very young site has a very high number of reviews
We found many low rated websites on the same server
Characteristics of a HYIP site detected
Alexa rank
31249
Owner
Name
Whois Agent
Organisation
Domain Protection Services, Inc.
Street
PO Box 1769 80201 Denver CO
Country
US
Telephone
+1.7208009072
E-mail
https://www.name.com/contact-domain-whois/bitcoloan.
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https://www.emporis.com/buildings/226966/60-queen-victoria-street-london-united-kingdom
60 Queen Victoria Street London
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April 03, 2021, 07:06:51 AM
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Don't know how obvious a scam can be.

1.4% daily => 160x yearly compounded. Compare that to Buffet's 20-30% p.a. returns which are considered to be incredibly in investment circles. The admin of the site must be the real sage of Omaha Roll Eyes

Seriously, if you still believe in HYIPs (i.e., ponzis) in 2021, you need to grow up. I remember their popularity back earlier last decade when BTC and internet investing were still new concepts, but with the robustness of internet investing now and the wealth of public knowledge, there is really no excuse not to exercise your due diligence.
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