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February 16, 2021, 05:27:59 AM |
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Hello.
I asked a withdrawal in a website, using dogecoin (so Child Pays for Parent transaction only can be used on bitcoin, not doge). The assistance says that the wallet provider, automatically set the transaction with 0.70682430 DOGE as fee, it s just 0.03eur or 0.04 dollars. They also say "we cannot do anything for now. We can't send you another WD because it can be confirmed anytime." Of course There's not a precise time when the transaction will disappear from the network, it could be days or up to weeks. They said me "please explain to me how to delete the transaction if you know, i will do everything i could if it makes sense". Any suggestion?
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February 16, 2021, 12:31:50 PM |
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You tell us nothing. Which site you tried withdraw your DOGE? Is it a gambling site? So you posted on this thread? And what about the low fee like that? I never see any site charge doge withdrawal with such low fee like that
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February 16, 2021, 01:41:55 PM |
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Your Doge must have arrived to your wallet by now even with a low fee like that. Don't blame the dog hehe. It's not the his fault that the wallet provider chose that fee. ...Is it a gambling site?
Judging from his post history, he was probably trying to withdraw from Betnomi. And what about the low fee like that? I never see any site charge doge withdrawal with such low fee like that I agree. The fee was too low if we're talking about platforms that doesn't allow you to customize. It should have been at least 1 DOGE.
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February 16, 2021, 01:43:58 PM |
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February 16, 2021, 02:52:29 PM |
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Which gambling site? Got a little shock when i see the hash ( can't believe they used very small fee like that). Your WD also got pending for 5 days, dunno it can be accelerated like bitcoin or not for faster confirmed. ...Is it a gambling site?
Judging from his post history, he was probably trying to withdraw from Betnomi. I see, all he can do only waiting his WD arrive on his wallet then.
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February 16, 2021, 03:31:06 PM |
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I don't know what to do. I am waiting for advices!? Can a gambling site feel free of responsabilities for this error? They say that they can't send me a new withdrawal and that they are not responsible(it was an error of the wallet provider)? The truth is that this situation can be stuck for days,weeks,months!!? A gambler for definition loses almost ever. One time, he win, should not he be treated with more respect? Which gambling site? Got a little shock when i see the hash ( can't believe they used very small fee like that). Your WD also got pending for 5 days, dunno it can be accelerated like bitcoin or not for faster confirmed. ...Is it a gambling site?
Judging from his post history, he was probably trying to withdraw from Betnomi. I see, all he can do only waiting his WD arrive on his wallet then.
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February 16, 2021, 11:41:34 PM |
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I don't know what to do. I am waiting for advices!?
I tried to search for a way to accelerate but I only found this reply on a reddit post " The best way is to resend dogecoins from same UTXO with appropriate fee." but it's more complicated in your case since you don't control the wallet. Can a gambling site feel free of responsabilities for this error? They say that they can't send me a new withdrawal and that they are not responsible(it was an error of the wallet provider)? What a lame excuse. Did they say they do not plan on following up? They can send a request to the wallet provider they hired or partnered with to fix the issue.
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February 17, 2021, 04:24:23 AM |
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The truth is that this situation can be stuck for days,weeks,months!!?
Unfortunately, that is the case, yes. The transaction is still "unconfirmed" after 5 days due to the very low fees. You have 2 options now: - Wait until the transaction is confirmed at some point. But as you said, this can take an indefinite time.
- The sender of the transaction can "replace" it and put it back into the mempool with a higher fee. Then it is usually confirmed very quickly. But as I said, only the casino can do this, so you are dependent on their good will.
I would ask support again if they would replace the transaction, this time just with a higher fee.
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February 17, 2021, 09:10:14 AM |
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another relevant fact is that the price of Dogecoin fell in these days. So If the transaction goes now, I lose "something like" 30% of my withdrawal. However I am waiting. The assistance said they will reply me on this problem.
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February 17, 2021, 10:46:32 AM |
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another relevant fact is that the price of Dogecoin fell in these days. So If the transaction goes now, I lose "something like" 30% of my withdrawal. However I am waiting. The assistance said they will reply me on this problem.
Gambling site is completely responsible for this but you can't do anything about it, Doge is one of the cheapest coin to transact but still the site used very low fee which is unacceptable as a player to be honest. They will reply that wait until it gets confirmed, nothing is going to be new.
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February 17, 2021, 01:16:53 PM |
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another relevant fact is that the price of Dogecoin fell in these days. So If the transaction goes now, I lose "something like" 30% of my withdrawal. However I am waiting. The assistance said they will reply me on this problem.
Why didn't you mention the name of the gambling site here as it will help others to avoid the casino at least for a while until they have better way to process user's withdrawals. Or at least post your issue on their ANN thread (if any), I'm wondering which site is this as I do believe that most reputable casinos wont process withdrawal with such low fee. You have read some suggestion above, bring it to the admin/support of the casino where you make this withdrawal.
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February 17, 2021, 04:42:40 PM |
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For clarity sake, can you mention how much you exactly withdrew op? Am curious about this since I will be more careful with Betnomi(based on what the posters above suggested) at present.
I regularly place bets there which is why this information could be helpful to me and others. Coming to your withdrawal, if the TX doesn't get confirmed automatically, it is upto the site to resolve this one way or another.
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February 17, 2021, 08:46:22 PM |
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Hello.
I asked a withdrawal in a website, using dogecoin (so Child Pays for Parent transaction only can be used on bitcoin, not doge). The assistance says that the wallet provider, automatically set the transaction with 0.70682430 DOGE as fee, it s just 0.03eur or 0.04 dollars. They also say "we cannot do anything for now. We can't send you another WD because it can be confirmed anytime." Of course There's not a precise time when the transaction will disappear from the network, it could be days or up to weeks. They said me "please explain to me how to delete the transaction if you know, i will do everything i could if it makes sense". Any suggestion?
Could you mention on what website you're talking on? In speaking with blockchain transactions then its totally irreversible once you had processed the payment or sent out then theres nothing you can do to delete or cancel it out unless if its rejected by miners due to very low fee. Site owners wont really be willing to sent out again just because your transaction get stucked.You dont have any choice but to wait up for that transaction to confirmed up.
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February 17, 2021, 09:41:09 PM |
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although im also using an altcoin for gambling i never experience a 5 days delay because my transactions are always process no matter what is the value of the altcoins high or low but i guess that is because im playing on a good casinos . im not sure if op only experience this problem because if there are other players experience this problem , they can learn from that and they wont use a verry low fee next time because those players can also complain . they shouldnt wait for their name to get popular because of complaints .
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February 17, 2021, 10:10:53 PM |
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6 days and still unconfirmed. I thought that Dogecoin is one of the fastest in confirmation time but this is a rare case that even Doge as the known crypto to be one of the cheapest and quite good in confirmation still gets stuck. There's no way that we can do to help you but just as suggested by Lakai, you can ask help from the support to do the 2nd option that he has given.
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February 18, 2021, 04:33:11 AM |
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If transaction Stuck over 2 weeks it will automatically return to the sender I hope that site doesn't scam using this method. I mean I hope they didn't send the transaction with small fee to scam inexperienced people . However learn more about doge chain Im 100% sure the doges will return after a time limit. .
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February 18, 2021, 04:35:55 AM |
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although im also using an altcoin for gambling i never experience a 5 days delay because my transactions are always process no matter what is the value of the altcoins high or low but i guess that is because im playing on a good casinos . im not sure if op only experience this problem because if there are other players experience this problem , they can learn from that and they wont use a verry low fee next time because those players can also complain . they shouldnt wait for their name to get popular because of complaints .
I find this to be odd, for the most part the most common complain that I hear from gamblers when it comes to the fees of the casino is that they are too high, casinos prefer to send higher fees in order to avoid the situation that the OP is experiencing, casinos like to give fast confirmations to their clients so there is no doubt in the mind of their customers they are not trying to scam them. Dogecoin is famous for its fast confirmations and low fees but even Dogecoin has its limits, after 6 days the transaction has not been confirmed due to the low transaction fee and even if the transaction is eventually removed from the mempool if the wallet provider once again gives such a low fee then you are not going to get a confirmation either, so if you do not get a confirmation try to talk to the casino support and see if they can send you a transaction with a higher fee so you do not have to go through this again.
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February 18, 2021, 05:24:08 AM |
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The amount of the withdrawal was 250 eur=4347.03120728 doges . Today 4347.03120728 doges =190.96 Euro. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) (I lost my right to exchange doge in other crypto before doge price fell and the gambling site is not going to refund for this..) The website in question paid two withdrawal of 100 eur in the previous days (I received it when they sent it, the transaction fee was higher in both cases 1.65090366 DOGE). (I hope that site doesn't scam using this method.) They paid two withdrawal before and they say it's an error of the wallet provider. So It could be really they have not huge responsabilities and they can't do nothing, however this situation is very strange and stressful. I wonder how can the wallet provider be wrong? just with my transaction? (if you do not get a confirmation try to talk to the casino support and see if they can send you a transaction with a higher fee) They only say: I and they have to wait, they are trying to see how they can deleting the transaction and getting a new one.. (If transaction Stuck over 2 weeks it will automatically return to the sender) I hope it is true, can you refer where you read it?
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OP can you please confirm the name of the gambling site for reference? I would want to avoid it in the future. It's their duty to ensure that once the network's fees change, they should also update their withdrawal fees such that those who want faster transactions can also stay happy and satisfied. 6 days and still unconfirmed. I thought that Dogecoin is one of the fastest in confirmation time but this is a rare case that even Doge as the known crypto to be one of the cheapest and quite good in confirmation still gets stuck.
It has Quicker confirmations but the blocks carry very few transactions, sometimes even just 1 transaction despite the network having 1,000+ unconfirmed transactions in the mempool. This is what happens when a coin suddenly becomes popular, and yet it wasn't designed to process lots of transactions. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F07%2F19%2FZ00WT.png&t=665&c=f-VibZRawV8NSg)
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February 18, 2021, 06:09:07 AM |
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It's the only one gambling site cited by other users in this thread.
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