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February 18, 2021, 06:45:41 AM
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Do you mean Betnomi? But why don't you speak just for yourself? Its your money right then there is nothing wrong about mentioning the site where you are facing issues then only people can help you to get resolved.
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February 18, 2021, 07:24:49 AM
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This is what happens when a coin suddenly becomes popular, and yet it wasn't designed to process lots of transactions.
I agree on that. That's all because of the popularity that's being brought on it by Elon. I think this is the first time that it has processed a lot of transactions due to the bull run and also with the help of Elon publishing it on his twitter handle.

(If transaction Stuck over 2 weeks it will automatically return to the sender) I hope it is true, can you refer where you read it?
I was looking for this thread that's being asked in the past about it but have found none. But for the other altcoins that whenever their transaction got stuck for a long time at least 2 weeks, it will be dropped by the network. It could be the same as Doge but I have no reference with that.

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February 18, 2021, 11:23:44 PM
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Hello.

I asked a withdrawal in a website, using dogecoin (so Child Pays for Parent transaction only can be used on bitcoin, not doge). The assistance says that the wallet provider, automatically set the transaction with  0.70682430 DOGE as fee, it s just 0.03eur or 0.04 dollars. They also say "we cannot do anything for now. We can't send you another WD because it can be confirmed anytime." Of course There's not a precise time when the transaction will disappear from the network, it could be days or up to weeks. They said me "please explain to me how to delete the transaction if you know, i will do everything i could if it makes sense". Any suggestion?


We will repeat what our live chat support said to you regarding this issue.
There is not much that can be done in this case but to wait. If the transaction gets confirmed, then you are all set.
In the event the transaction fails/ is dropped, we will simply resend the payment to you.

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February 19, 2021, 07:39:28 AM
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Hello.

I asked a withdrawal in a website, using dogecoin (so Child Pays for Parent transaction only can be used on bitcoin, not doge). The assistance says that the wallet provider, automatically set the transaction with  0.70682430 DOGE as fee, it s just 0.03eur or 0.04 dollars. They also say "we cannot do anything for now. We can't send you another WD because it can be confirmed anytime." Of course There's not a precise time when the transaction will disappear from the network, it could be days or up to weeks. They said me "please explain to me how to delete the transaction if you know, i will do everything i could if it makes sense". Any suggestion?


We will repeat what our live chat support said to you regarding this issue.
There is not much that can be done in this case but to wait. If the transaction gets confirmed, then you are all set.
In the event the transaction fails/ is dropped, we will simply resend the payment to you.
But this is not the actual way of treating the player and what is going to be the response for the loss of value in the meanwhile time because Doge is the cheapest coin to transact but still the site processed with too low fee to get stuck?...
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February 21, 2021, 08:20:49 PM
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We will repeat what our live chat support said to you regarding this issue.
There is not much that can be done in this case but to wait. If the transaction gets confirmed, then you are all set.
In the event the transaction fails/ is dropped, we will simply resend the payment to you.
I think you should work on updating the withdrawal fees every time major changes happen in the market like in this bull run. When Bitcoin and Ether fees spike for weeks or months, it simply means that most other altcoins are also going to experience higher fees for quicker confirmations.

A customer should never be punished just because of negligence from the casino's side. Use this a learning lesson and improve on withdrawals as soon as possible.

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February 21, 2021, 08:55:22 PM
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Well, I thought this Dogecoin has the cheapest fee and has the fastest transaction speed. Is the system will not automatically set a required amount of fee to the network that will never be stuck? However, Op perhaps has a reason why OP choose Dogecoin to withdraw to think that it is very quick to withdraw but how come it will take a longer time, it sounds not good here. A good casino should always have updates upon their deposit/withdrawal fees because this is a very important aspect that most gamblers looking at.









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February 22, 2021, 01:01:14 AM
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Hello.

I asked a withdrawal in a website, using dogecoin (so Child Pays for Parent transaction only can be used on bitcoin, not doge). The assistance says that the wallet provider, automatically set the transaction with  0.70682430 DOGE as fee, it s just 0.03eur or 0.04 dollars. They also say "we cannot do anything for now. We can't send you another WD because it can be confirmed anytime." Of course There's not a precise time when the transaction will disappear from the network, it could be days or up to weeks. They said me "please explain to me how to delete the transaction if you know, i will do everything i could if it makes sense". Any suggestion?


We will repeat what our live chat support said to you regarding this issue.
There is not much that can be done in this case but to wait. If the transaction gets confirmed, then you are all set.
In the event the transaction fails/ is dropped, we will simply resend the payment to you.
But this is not the actual way of treating the player and what is going to be the response for the loss of value in the meanwhile time because Doge is the cheapest coin to transact but still the site processed with too low fee to get stuck?...

The exchange has no responsibility anymore when they push already the transaction to the blockchain since the user itself apply the fee before he withdraw. They reply fair enough base on the statement that betnomi provide on your quoted post above. The loss in value is the cons of using a highly volatile coin.

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February 23, 2021, 05:57:46 AM
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The exchange has no responsibility anymore when they push already the transaction to the blockchain since the user itself apply the fee before he withdraw. They reply fair enough base on the statement that betnomi provide on your quoted post above. The loss in value is the cons of using a highly volatile coin.
Exchanges has the habit of increasing the fee or fixed fee which is always higher than the actual transaction fee this also can be opted by casinos but they never send a fee for a coin which just need cents for the fastest confirmation isn't acceptable becuase people can use any coin for the same bet but if they choose Doge means they expect everything faster.
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The exchange has no responsibility anymore when they push already the transaction to the blockchain since the user itself apply the fee before he withdraw. They reply fair enough base on the statement that betnomi provide on your quoted post above. The loss in value is the cons of using a highly volatile coin.
Exchanges has the habit of increasing the fee or fixed fee which is always higher than the actual transaction fee this also can be opted by casinos but they never send a fee for a coin which just need cents for the fastest confirmation isn't acceptable becuase people can use any coin for the same bet but if they choose Doge means they expect everything faster.
I agree, I am glad that one of the casino representatives took the time to answer in this thread and while they are technically correct, since once you send the transaction there is nothing they can do except to wait and see if the transaction gets confirmed or if its dropped from the mempool, at the same time the OP has had to wait for 13 days already and there is no confirmation and that is a long time.

Which means that in the case they have the resend the transaction to the OP, as it is the most likely scenario at the moment, if they use once again such a cheap fee the OP will be once again in this situation, so casinos need to check very closely the amount they send as a fee as waiting 13 days just for a chance to receive your payment is simply unacceptable.

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February 25, 2021, 05:09:02 AM
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The exchange has no responsibility anymore when they push already the transaction to the blockchain since the user itself apply the fee before he withdraw. They reply fair enough base on the statement that betnomi provide on your quoted post above. The loss in value is the cons of using a highly volatile coin.

The main problem is that the casino sent the withdrawal with so low fee, so basically it is the casino's responsibility if the withdrawal stuck on the mempool for too long time. Casino should give a better fee, at least use the minimum best fee to get the withdrawal confirmed fast. I'm pretty sure the user chose dogecoin because he thinks that he will get the money faster than other coins. It is not acceptable if the casino sent the withdrawal with such low fee that makes the withdrawal stuck.

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February 25, 2021, 11:42:53 AM
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The exchange has no responsibility anymore when they push already the transaction to the blockchain since the user itself apply the fee before he withdraw. They reply fair enough base on the statement that betnomi provide on your quoted post above. The loss in value is the cons of using a highly volatile coin.
The main problem is that the casino sent the withdrawal with so low fee, so basically it is the casino's responsibility if the withdrawal stuck on the mempool for too long time. Casino should give a better fee, at least use the minimum best fee to get the withdrawal confirmed fast. I'm pretty sure the user chose dogecoin because he thinks that he will get the money faster than other coins. It is not acceptable if the casino sent the withdrawal with such low fee that makes the withdrawal stuck.
Betnomi is kind of washing their hands here and putting the blame on the wallet provider since they are responsible for setting the fees and updating it. It should be interesting to see their next response if the transaction didn't drop from the Dogecoin mempool and remains unconfirmed for the next two weeks.

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February 25, 2021, 12:08:19 PM
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In the next 9 hours, the transaction reach 14 days without being confirmed so there should be canceled. The assistence of Betnomi said they will set a new transaction ( but they didn't specify if they will set a higher fee manually this time). I have just asked the assistance to withdraw in bitcoin to avoid new problems. I will let you know their answer.
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February 25, 2021, 01:08:16 PM
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In the next 9 hours, the transaction reach 14 days without being confirmed so there should be canceled. The assistence of Betnomi said they will set a new transaction ( but they didn't specify if they will set a higher fee manually this time). I have just asked the assistance to withdraw in bitcoin to avoid new problems. I will let you know their answer.
Betnomi is the one who can handle this one, and they are communicating with you already so I don't see any big problem here aside from the inconvenience has caused to you. Casinos are using small fees for withdrawals most of the time and some already have a fixed amount of fees, and I think this is not suitable anymore especially if the market is highly congested, and not unless you're willing to pay for a higher fees.

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February 25, 2021, 04:17:02 PM
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In the next 9 hours, the transaction reach 14 days without being confirmed so there should be canceled. The assistence of Betnomi said they will set a new transaction ( but they didn't specify if they will set a higher fee manually this time). I have just asked the assistance to withdraw in bitcoin to avoid new problems. I will let you know their answer.
That's a record for Doge that I didn't experienced and never heard from someone. I hope that this problem of yours with Doge shall be solved when you get a newer transaction. We'll wait for your update and I know that it will be solved any time soon.

This gambling site is fully responsible and the price of dogecoin has come down for this.
There's no connection about his transaction and the drop or rise of Dogecoin's price.

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February 25, 2021, 04:18:13 PM
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The exchange has no responsibility anymore when they push already the transaction to the blockchain since the user itself apply the fee before he withdraw. They reply fair enough base on the statement that betnomi provide on your quoted post above. The loss in value is the cons of using a highly volatile coin.
Exchanges has the habit of increasing the fee or fixed fee which is always higher than the actual transaction fee this also can be opted by casinos but they never send a fee for a coin which just need cents for the fastest confirmation isn't acceptable becuase people can use any coin for the same bet but if they choose Doge means they expect everything faster.
I agree, I am glad that one of the casino representatives took the time to answer in this thread and while they are technically correct, since once you send the transaction there is nothing they can do except to wait and see if the transaction gets confirmed or if its dropped from the mempool, at the same time the OP has had to wait for 13 days already and there is no confirmation and that is a long time.

Which means that in the case they have the resend the transaction to the OP, as it is the most likely scenario at the moment, if they use once again such a cheap fee the OP will be once again in this situation, so casinos need to check very closely the amount they send as a fee as waiting 13 days just for a chance to receive your payment is simply unacceptable.
And its Dogecoin which is why I said it isn't unacceptable, casinos sent the transactions in batch then why they don't want to set the right fee while making the transaction, if wallet providers having such issues then it should be sorted out as soon as possible because it is not good for the future of any casinos.
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February 25, 2021, 04:30:43 PM
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In the next 9 hours, the transaction reach 14 days without being confirmed so there should be canceled. The assistence of Betnomi said they will set a new transaction ( but they didn't specify if they will set a higher fee manually this time). I have just asked the assistance to withdraw in bitcoin to avoid new problems. I will let you know their answer.

If they will set a new transaction, they have to make sure that they are going to do it with higher fee than what they spent on your stuck withdrawal.
It wont be more unacceptable if they do the same mistake for the new transaction.
If I'm the admin/owner of the casino, I will give you a compensation for the inconvenience although just a small amount or a bonus such as free spin or free bet on the site.

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February 25, 2021, 06:40:32 PM
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In the next 9 hours, the transaction reach 14 days without being confirmed so there should be canceled. The assistence of Betnomi said they will set a new transaction ( but they didn't specify if they will set a higher fee manually this time). I have just asked the assistance to withdraw in bitcoin to avoid new problems. I will let you know their answer.

If they will set a new transaction, they have to make sure that they are going to do it with higher fee than what they spent on your stuck withdrawal.
It wont be more unacceptable if they do the same mistake for the new transaction.
If I'm the admin/owner of the casino, I will give you a compensation for the inconvenience although just a small amount or a bonus such as free spin or free bet on the site.
Some sort of compensation due to inconvenience? that would really be giving out some good impressions towards the site but honestly they do have fault on that one

so it is just right or ethical on giving out those bonuses or free spins due to that situation.This is why I do always prefer on seeing gambling sites that does have
dynamic fees rather than into those static ones and also same goes to have an option on how fast you do like for transaction to be
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February 25, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
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In the next 9 hours, the transaction reach 14 days without being confirmed so there should be canceled. The assistence of Betnomi said they will set a new transaction ( but they didn't specify if they will set a higher fee manually this time). I have just asked the assistance to withdraw in bitcoin to avoid new problems. I will let you know their answer.
Betnomi is the one who can handle this one, and they are communicating with you already so I don't see any big problem here aside from the inconvenience has caused to you. Casinos are using small fees for withdrawals most of the time and some already have a fixed amount of fees, and I think this is not suitable anymore especially if the market is highly congested, and not unless you're willing to pay for a higher fees.

14 days is such a long wait, this could happen to anyone on any gambling site that fails to update the transaction fees, when Betnomi specify that they are going to set up a new transaction that means they are sending Doge again with a much higher fee for the transaction to push through, of course, they do not want to face issues again by sending low fees, they want to fix this issues, hope the transaction push through and you can get your Doge and move forward.


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February 26, 2021, 07:14:49 PM
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Hi, I didn't use my main email for registering here and I lost the access to my BITCOINTALK account mathematics_lover.  However, this thread got popularity and so I wanted to give an update.  Finally 10 hours ago  the withdrawal was canceled after approximatively 14 days and 12 hour. I asked a new withdrawal to Betnomi assistence (  this time in bitcoin). I am waiting updates from them.
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February 26, 2021, 08:09:44 PM
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Hi, I didn't use my main email for registering here and I lost the access to my BITCOINTALK account mathematics_lover.  However, this thread got popularity and so I wanted to give an update.  Finally 10 hours ago  the withdrawal was canceled after approximatively 14 days and 12 hour. I asked a new withdrawal to Betnomi assistence (  this time in bitcoin). I am waiting updates from them.
Just as expected and the same with other altcoins when they'll drop transactions, the estimation is correct about 2 weeks.. That's a long wait for you but they're aware of your transaction and will assist you as soon as possible. Once it's already okay and solved, you can close the thread after that.

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