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I think everybody should own some Gold whether they like it or not. It is like an insurance. Bitcoin is seen as an insurance too but there is still a possibility that bitcoin can fail but gold has proven its worth over 5000 years as the ultimate store of value.
Diversification is the key. Get some gold, get some crypto, get some FIAT, get some stocks, some real estate... Sell the one that has mooned and buy the one that is still cheap.
Imo Gold is now very cheap.
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March 18, 2021, 11:55:44 AM |
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I think everybody should own some Gold whether they like it or not. It is like an insurance. Bitcoin is seen as an insurance too but there is still a possibility that bitcoin can fail but gold has proven its worth over 5000 years as the ultimate store of value.
Diversification is the key. Get some gold, get some crypto, get some FIAT, get some stocks, some real estate... Sell the one that has mooned and buy the one that is still cheap.
Imo Gold is now very cheap.
Asset diversification is indeed a mainstay of large investors because by implementing a good portfolio strategy you can increase the wealth you have invested. Not only nowadays, but people have always used gold as one of their safe assets so that they can mitigate if the volatility of other assets is bad enough. However, the proportions given are quite difficult choices. Because the higher the return, the higher the risk. Gold is an asset that is quite low in risk compared to other assets and that is why the price of gold is not very attractive to invest in in the short term.
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Investing in both assets is a good thing, there are a lot of benefits that we can have for investing in bitcoin and gold, but as of now I still haven't tried investing in Gold because I am still focused on bitcoin which is what I love and believe that it could still go up but now I am already planning to invest in Gold so that I could give it to my future children whenever I wasn't able to teach them about the crypto world.
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March 18, 2021, 02:14:15 PM |
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I think everybody should own some Gold whether they like it or not. It is like an insurance. Bitcoin is seen as an insurance too but there is still a possibility that bitcoin can fail but gold has proven its worth over 5000 years as the ultimate store of value.
Diversification is the key. Get some gold, get some crypto, get some FIAT, get some stocks, some real estate... Sell the one that has mooned and buy the one that is still cheap.
Imo Gold is now very cheap.
Asset diversification is indeed a mainstay of large investors because by implementing a good portfolio strategy you can increase the wealth you have invested. Not only nowadays, but people have always used gold as one of their safe assets so that they can mitigate if the volatility of other assets is bad enough. However, the proportions given are quite difficult choices. Because the higher the return, the higher the risk. Gold is an asset that is quite low in risk compared to other assets and that is why the price of gold is not very attractive to invest in in the short term. You shouldn't see it as an investment. I mean, it is an investment but it is more of an insurance. There might be a time in the future where you'll need physical gold. I am not talking about the gold in your bank account. I am talking about a mad-max like scenario. Gold will be your hedge against the full system collapse. It is a life insurance. What happens when your home catches fire and you don't have an insurance? You'll lose your house and get nothing from anywhere to compensate the damages. The same idea applies. If the whole systems goes down and people go back to the gold standard, then you'll have 2 options: 1- You have some gold and survive. 2- You don't have any gold and die. You can apply the same logic to bitcoin as well. If the whole world wants to use bitcoin as the new reserve currency, it is probably good idea to have some around. Diversification...
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March 18, 2021, 04:37:43 PM |
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I think everybody should own some Gold whether they like it or not. It is like an insurance. Bitcoin is seen as an insurance too but there is still a possibility that bitcoin can fail but gold has proven its worth over 5000 years as the ultimate store of value.
Diversification is the key. Get some gold, get some crypto, get some FIAT, get some stocks, some real estate... Sell the one that has mooned and buy the one that is still cheap.
Imo Gold is now very cheap.
- There's no denying that gold has been a very good asset over time but because we consider it as a store of value, that makes the price of gold relatively stable every year and if we invest too little, profits cannot be satisfied according to our needs, more investment will make us do not have the capital to diversify investments. So, before we confirm the idea of buying gold, we should look at our total capital, if it is really not enough for too many types of investments, bitcoin is still a choice that offers more opportunities regardless its risks
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March 18, 2021, 10:34:34 PM |
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Yeah bitcoin has definately gained ground. There will always be a space for fine metals and gold is king. For me I always think buying any long term investment amongst a nice dip is always smart. Buying multiple asset classes is smart. No need for full exposure with just one asset and leave yourself apt for some wrecked years.
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March 18, 2021, 10:53:21 PM Last edit: March 19, 2021, 12:32:35 AM by AndySt |
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Yeah bitcoin has definately gained ground. There will always be a space for fine metals and gold is king. For me I always think buying any long term investment amongst a nice dip is always smart. Buying multiple asset classes is smart. No need for full exposure with just one asset and leave yourself apt for some wrecked years.
The classic rule that you should not keep all your eggs in one basket should be the law for any investor It's just that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have now been added to the classic market assets such as bonds, stocks, and precious metals. One thing, of course, will not replace the other, and you should not have any illusions about this, so the diversification of the investment portfolio and the determination of the shares of assets in the portfolio should be the main task of the investor.
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March 19, 2021, 01:09:57 AM |
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It's a very good idea to take some profit from Bitcoin to buy Gold, because the current Bitcoin price is quite high to sell. Moreover, Gold is one of the oldest assets which has proven to be very good for holding in the long term. Sometimes to make us richer, we do have to invest in more than one asset. For now I invest not only in Bitcoin and Gold, but I also invested in Real estate which proved to be good for long term investment too.
If you are going to do something like that then make sure that you are fine with holding your gold for decades, people already have some problems holding their bitcoin but gold takes an even longer amount of time to show great profits, time that you could have used to invest in something else and then make money that way as well, however investing in gold is one of the safest options there are and can be extremely profitable if done at the right time.
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March 19, 2021, 01:33:38 AM |
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You shouldn't see it as an investment. I mean, it is an investment but it is more of an insurance.
There might be a time in the future where you'll need physical gold. I am not talking about the gold in your bank account. I am talking about a mad-max like scenario. Gold will be your hedge against the full system collapse.
It is a life insurance.
What happens when your home catches fire and you don't have an insurance? You'll lose your house and get nothing from anywhere to compensate the damages.
The same idea applies.
If the whole systems goes down and people go back to the gold standard, then you'll have 2 options:
1- You have some gold and survive.
2- You don't have any gold and die.
You can apply the same logic to bitcoin as well. If the whole world wants to use bitcoin as the new reserve currency, it is probably good idea to have some around. Diversification...
Maybe I am getting too used to seeing all assets as investments. Indeed, on the other hand, the assets we have can be used as insurance for life today. The investment concept is the same as the advanced version of savings. When talking about savings as life insurance, this is the basic thing that everyone thinks. Indeed, the fact is that by having assets such as gold and bitcoin, the bad conditions we experience can be covered by assets that we have set aside from all the necessities of life. Income = Expenses - Saving. With this concept, life can be maintained in the future. And if you choose the type of asset, the financial concept is used so that it can generate great benefits.
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March 19, 2021, 02:08:34 AM |
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I think everybody should own some Gold whether they like it or not. It is like an insurance. Bitcoin is seen as an insurance too but there is still a possibility that bitcoin can fail but gold has proven its worth over 5000 years as the ultimate store of value.
Diversification is the key. Get some gold, get some crypto, get some FIAT, get some stocks, some real estate... Sell the one that has mooned and buy the one that is still cheap.
Imo Gold is now very cheap.
Asset diversification is indeed a mainstay of large investors because by implementing a good portfolio strategy you can increase the wealth you have invested. Not only nowadays, but people have always used gold as one of their safe assets so that they can mitigate if the volatility of other assets is bad enough. However, the proportions given are quite difficult choices. Because the higher the return, the higher the risk. Gold is an asset that is quite low in risk compared to other assets and that is why the price of gold is not very attractive to invest in in the short term. If the whole systems goes down and people go back to the gold standard, then you'll have 2 options: 1- You have some gold and survive. 2- You don't have any gold and die. This takes too many things for granted to be accurate. First of all, being on the gold standard just means the currency is backed by gold. If we "went back to the gold standard" that wouldn't mean you need gold to operate in the system since your currency would be redeemable for gold. Further, people without gold wouldn't simply die for a lot of different reasons.
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March 19, 2021, 07:46:52 AM |
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This takes too many things for granted to be accurate. First of all, being on the gold standard just means the currency is backed by gold. If we "went back to the gold standard" that wouldn't mean you need gold to operate in the system since your currency would be redeemable for gold. Further, people without gold wouldn't simply die for a lot of different reasons.
I didn't want to mean that you die, literally. You'll die financially. If gold becomes the main thing again, gold will shoot up and everything else will be worthless compared to it. You'll want that gold backed currency but how are you gonna get it if your whole assets collapsed against gold and you have no gold?
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This takes too many things for granted to be accurate. First of all, being on the gold standard just means the currency is backed by gold. If we "went back to the gold standard" that wouldn't mean you need gold to operate in the system since your currency would be redeemable for gold. Further, people without gold wouldn't simply die for a lot of different reasons.
I didn't want to mean that you die, literally. You'll die financially. If gold becomes the main thing again, gold will shoot up and everything else will be worthless compared to it. You'll want that gold backed currency but how are you gonna get it if your whole assets collapsed against gold and you have no gold? Gold standard or not, owning some physical gold is just smart. Diversification. Owning some BTC is just smart too, BTC and Au have different "fundamentals" so each is good diversification.
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I am not sure about this because the gold price is also fairly high right now. I have been holding some gold index funds for a while now and think it might be better to take a profit in Gold rather than Bitcoin. If the corona pandemic is really over now than the stock market should be taking off again. I might switch my gold into stocks for now.
Gold prices are not at the peak right now, it dropped a bit, I think it will not be like this for a long time but it also did dropped a lot so we can't argue that we should take out our profit right now. If you took it out during the peak I wouldn't be against it, but you could wait a bit more if you ask me. However if you are going to end up buying bitcoin with that money I would suggest you to do it right away, bitcoin will always move faster than gold, gold is very slow whereas bitcoin is very volatile. I am sure during a period when gold goes up 50%, bitcoin could drop 50%, increase 3x, drop another 30% and increase another 3x and it would still have time left as well. That is why if you are going to buy bitcoin with that money you could sell your gold, but if you are just waiting to get back into gold, then I would say being a bit more patient.
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March 19, 2021, 07:55:29 PM |
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Imo Gold is now very cheap.
Might that depends on a place? Gold here is still pricey and more valued than Bitcoin or any form of currency. So investments on gold here is not an option, people here might just want to invest on land. You'll want that gold backed currency but how are you gonna get it if your whole assets collapsed against gold and you have no gold?
Good Question, but too far from reality as we are already out on Stone Age most of the people now wants that piece of paper than anything.
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Imo Gold is now very cheap.
Might that depends on a place? Gold here is still pricey and more valued than Bitcoin or any form of currency. So investments on gold here is not an option, people here might just want to invest on land. It is cheap if you are earning Euros or Dollars I guess. If gold is very expensive in where you live, probably everything is expensive for you. Land is good too. I don't know which country you are in though. If you are planning to retire in your country and you are buying your land there, yeah it is also a good investment. You'll want that gold backed currency but how are you gonna get it if your whole assets collapsed against gold and you have no gold?
Good Question, but too far from reality as we are already out on Stone Age most of the people now wants that piece of paper than anything. It doesn't necessarily mean "returning to the Stone Age" While we are speaking right now, it is possible that the central banks are working on a new digital currency that operates on a blockchain and backed by gold. That's just speculation of course I have no insider information.
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Imo Gold is now very cheap.
Might that depends on a place? Gold here is still pricey and more valued than Bitcoin or any form of currency. So investments on gold here is not an option, people here might just want to invest on land. It is cheap if you are earning Euros or Dollars I guess. If gold is very expensive in where you live, probably everything is expensive for you. Land is good too. I don't know which country you are in though. If you are planning to retire in your country and you are buying your land there, yeah it is also a good investment. Yeah, that could be a good one only if in Euro or USD, and only rich families can afford that Golds. Anyways, unluckily I'm from Philippines where most people are too dumb to realize something important and from what I see on the economy right now, Land is the only thing to have a good investment with, good thing I have known crypto even if it's a bit late on 2018.
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March 19, 2021, 08:47:29 PM |
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Since the bullish of Bitcoin market seems to impact the dump in price of Gold i believe this is also the chance to accumulate some Gold but not through Gold standard monetary system which the fiat may experience devaluation and if this system seems not to be a failure Satoshi wint have create Bitcoin in the first place.
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March 20, 2021, 07:49:08 AM |
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It is cheap if you are earning Euros or Dollars I guess. If gold is very expensive in where you live, probably everything is expensive for you. Land is good too. I don't know which country you are in though. If you are planning to retire in your country and you are buying your land there, yeah it is also a good investment.
Yeah, that could be a good one only if in Euro or USD, and only rich families can afford that Golds. Anyways, unluckily I'm from Philippines where most people are too dumb to realize something important and from what I see on the economy right now, Land is the only thing to have a good investment with, good thing I have known crypto even if it's a bit late on 2018. Although land investment is quite good, this asset is not liquid, because there are many factors in it. Such as geographic factors and price factors that are not fixed and price determination is only through negotiation. If gold is too expensive, perhaps it is best to buy crypto assets apart. Because seeing the many comparisons, gold is cool but it is too old if investing in an insurance context always ends in gold because at this time. Printing of money is not even guaranteed by gold anymore. So what's interesting is Bitcoin and other crypto assets.
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March 21, 2021, 04:03:52 AM |
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This takes too many things for granted to be accurate. First of all, being on the gold standard just means the currency is backed by gold. If we "went back to the gold standard" that wouldn't mean you need gold to operate in the system since your currency would be redeemable for gold. Further, people without gold wouldn't simply die for a lot of different reasons.
I didn't want to mean that you die, literally. You'll die financially. If gold becomes the main thing again, gold will shoot up and everything else will be worthless compared to it. You'll want that gold backed currency but how are you gonna get it if your whole assets collapsed against gold and you have no gold? I guess I would say that gold was never the main thing. Even when fiat was back by gold, nobody transacted in gold, they transacted in fiat. The fiat was redeemable for gold, but that was rarely ever used compared to the number of transactions in fiat overall.
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Bitcoin outperforms gold because it's a rarer asset. That's why I'd rather invest in digital gold.
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