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Question: Have you gained from trading
Yes, I have gained while trading - 24 (70.6%)
I have lost while trading - 9 (26.5%)
No, I haven't gained or lost while trading - 1 (2.9%)
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March 04, 2021, 08:59:06 PM
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Dont mind about the losing percentage of traders who are into this market.What matter most is to think up for yourself to succeed or making yourself included to the
profiting side.Its true that lots are on the losing side but doesnt mean that you would allow yourself to be sitting on that part, have some goals and strive the best as
you can to be profitable.In the poll, i had put up im on the profiting side.Not to be boastful but somewhat i do able to sustain myself into this market on what ive been trading.
Losing is inevitable but doesnt mean that this will be completely shut your off or make your stop on dealing with the market.
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March 04, 2021, 09:11:40 PM
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It is surprising what I saw about trading, that 95% of traders are losing, this was not what I even thought before, I was considering 75% of traders, but no research paper exists that proves this number right while some suggesting that the actual figure is much, much higher.



This poll are strictly for traders, it is clear that holding bitcoin and some other strong altcoins in the past did not later result to loss, unless the people that sold out of panic, because the price of these crypto assets increased back. So, this poll are only for traders, for us to know how trading is risky.

This is not about what you feel about trading, it is about what has happened to you, maybe you have lost to trading, or you are gaining from trading.

https://tradeciety.com/24-statistics-why-most-traders-lose-money/

I have experience working with proprietary firms. Let me share with you my experience and some undeniable fact, unfortunately many of the trader out there especially retail traders unwilling to accept. It's not just crypto, this includes almost the whole financial market for instance stocks, commodities, bonds, precious metals etc.

GREED AND HOPE TO GET RICH OVERNIGHT
Human born nature to be greedy. This is the main reason someone get into trading but they forgotten no one can predict future.

EITHER HEAD OR TAIL
A financial chart is almost like a TV screen in front of a roulettes table inside casino. It's RED on this hand but it does not predict the outcome on next hand, still 48.7% RED, 48.7% BLACK, 2.6% GREEN. Sometime they get lucky getting in before the trend and think they are good enough to get rich soon, they forget the outcome are always either HEAD or TAIL.

MONEY MANAGEMENT
Putting small money and hope to win big. That's call gambling and not trading. Those who really success in trading are putting big money to win small money with predictable risk.

These couple examples are the most common why most trader loss their money. Investing is buying something which you assume it has appreciation value and hold for some time. But when it comes to trading especially on intraday or short term trading, if someone lack of experience or discipline, it can easily become gambling. If someone still think they can get rich by predicting the direction in short terms, I can assured you that's not how it works especially those big investment firms. Very few of them can success trading on intraday or short term, but always remember, the shorter time frame you trade, the higher skill level you need. Sorry for my broken English because it's not my first language.
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March 04, 2021, 09:35:48 PM
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Losing in trading depends, for new traders that are not patient to learn, 99.99% or more of them will lose, trading is not about thinking about profit, it deals mostly to think about ways not to lose and how to manage risks. That 95% traders to be losing is also too high, I think it can not be up to that extent, but trading is risky. Someone can lose millions to trading in just a short period of time. I like to advice about savings which helps people in life, but if want to trade, it should be done with what you can afford to lose.

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March 08, 2021, 05:33:24 AM
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Traders are losing because that's normal and our goal is not to always make profit but of course to earn money and reach our target profit at the end of the day.

I personally have an excel file of my trades (journal), and I can say that I lose on many trades but I also make money on some of my trades. My result last year was great since I'm on a gain position. Many says that, long term investors are way more profitable than trading and less hassle of course which is true so if you're not into trading, then play long.  
The numbers presented by the OP may seem surprising but this is the reality on most markets, most people lose money that is inevitable, this is a competition and when we take into account the fees you need to pay to move your coins, the fees of the exchange and the taxes you need to pay then it is normal that more than 50% of traders lose, then wen we add the ignorance of most traders this numbers grows even more dramatically, which is why a minority of the traders keeps most of the profits to themselves and are the only ones that can become profitable over the long term.
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March 08, 2021, 06:07:35 AM
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The data shows how important for a trader to stay longer. In short, preserving capital will result of staying on the run longer.
The chart is extremely true, that's why some successful traders keep saying how important risk management is and preserving the capital.
The game is likely how you will survive in the long term.
As if a lot of trader have the funds for their trading upkeep costs. If the trader is losing because of his/her decisions then there is no saving grace such as going long or short. Also, most traders are greenhorns who just wants to get into trading because a friend of their friend introduced them to trading and they think that they can do it themselves and most of the time, the people who genuinely wants to learn about trading and such are a fraction of those 95%.
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March 08, 2021, 07:47:42 AM
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I felt bad back in the days when I was still day trading. It felt like a defeat when I experienced loss in my first day in my day trading experience.
It is written in my journal as well, but that's almost like buried already in my history here in crypto. It should be safe to say that I, at the least, became a short-term trader because I already experienced both sides.
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March 08, 2021, 10:51:24 AM
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Only very little people have preserverance needed to be success and that goes to other things aswell, even in life only very few people could succeed the rest just becomes canon fodder for the succesfull people but when it comes to trading im pretty sure the remaining 5% consists of vip groups that got fed with information from the higher ups people and very few individuals, (no im not talking about crypto but stocks in general) but when it comes to crypto I guess people like the small fries have more chance.

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March 08, 2021, 11:18:17 AM
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On the other hand I would really like to know if there is some statistic available somewhere on how much are exchanges earning by the huge volume of money traded everyday : anyone knows if there is some site with such information?

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March 08, 2021, 01:17:00 PM
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Losing in trading depends, for new traders that are not patient to learn, 99.99% or more of them will lose, trading is not about thinking about profit, it deals mostly to think about ways not to lose and how to manage risks. That 95% traders to be losing is also too high, I think it can not be up to that extent, but trading is risky. Someone can lose millions to trading in just a short period of time. I like to advice about savings which helps people in life, but if want to trade, it should be done with what you can afford to lose.
No, I doubted how you get that 99.99% have lost in trading because that means that a trader has no chance to succeed. I know that all of them( including me) had suffered such losses but it doesn't mean that we don't have any chance to improve and recover our losses. It sounds like you are discouraging people not to trade anymore.

Trading in crypto is just like also in the stock market, you will lose and you will also make a profit. And that absolutely depends on how you manage your trade.

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March 08, 2021, 06:38:21 PM
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Only very little people have preserverance needed to be success and that goes to other things aswell, even in life only very few people could succeed the rest just becomes canon fodder for the succesfull people but when it comes to trading im pretty sure the remaining 5% consists of vip groups that got fed with information from the higher ups people and very few individuals, (no im not talking about crypto but stocks in general) but when it comes to crypto I guess people like the small fries have more chance.
There are actually more individuals that are successful in trading. Traders are using technical analysis and have a basis on their trades. I am assuming that VIP groups are a signal group that most likely is using technical analysis on their signals. Losses are inevitable in trading, and losing doesn't mean you aren't successful, It's one of the obstacles in gaining winning trades.

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Well what I usually understand is that for each person who wins, one loses, an Exchange never loses, the Exchanges may be taking advantage of making more profits, the market is at the moment showing signs of going up, and when seeing the volume of Negotiations are corroborated, now with the results of the survey it is really alarming, it means that those who are small to medium traders are losing, apparently the whales are winning more than they planned.

Here it is best to be patient, the market gives many good entries, you do not have to rush, many traders do not understand that, and therefore they add to the statistics.

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March 08, 2021, 07:48:03 PM
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Only very little people have preserverance needed to be success and that goes to other things aswell, even in life only very few people could succeed the rest just becomes canon fodder for the succesfull people but when it comes to trading im pretty sure the remaining 5% consists of vip groups that got fed with information from the higher ups people and very few individuals, (no im not talking about crypto but stocks in general) but when it comes to crypto I guess people like the small fries have more chance.
There are actually more individuals that are successful in trading. Traders are using technical analysis and have a basis on their trades. I am assuming that VIP groups are a signal group that most likely is using technical analysis on their signals. Losses are inevitable in trading, and losing doesn't mean you aren't successful, It's one of the obstacles in gaining winning trades.
There are people who do really make out profits but to think that there are lossers and gainers of this market which simply implies that anytime there's a profiting trader
there would be a losing one in the other side which simply shows that we cant really determine on what percentage does the entire market does have those gainers
and losers when it comes to their investment. 95% is a bit high if we do really say that they are losing because if thats true then we wont really be seeing
much liquidity on this because people arent really making money at all.
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March 08, 2021, 08:03:36 PM
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I am not surprised to find out that data on 95% of traders are losing, because most traders start trading without any knowledge and preparation.
So it is very natural that many traders end up experiencing losses, including me, remembering the first time I traded. Immediately try to buy coins
that I think are potential, then after buying these coins the price of coins decreases and because of panic and impatience, I also sold the coins that
I bought and lost money at that time. Indeed, trading is not as easy as imagined, to succeed in trading requires a long process. We need to
learn knowledge about trading and also have trading experience.

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March 08, 2021, 08:29:46 PM
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For forex.

A commonly known fact is that a significant amount of forex traders fail. Various websites and blogs even go as far as to say that 70%, 80%, and even more than 90% of forex traders lose money and end up quitting. Source

For crypto
A research estimate stated that 95% of traders lose money in the leading virtual currency, bitcoin.Source



So every market do really goes up beyond 90%? I do believe on that but due to unlimited opportunities on making profits on this market there are still lots who are really risking out
to deal with the market.

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March 08, 2021, 10:53:41 PM
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By the way, I think the poll is missing one option - I have gained or lost while trading. More than likely, most of us here both experienced losing and gaining in trading. It is not always the case that we are winning in our trading. At some point, we lost a little, we gain a little. And the experiences will teach us some tricks along the way, which is not covered by any technical analysis out there.
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March 08, 2021, 10:54:30 PM
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It is true that 95% traders lose in trading because they don't have patience, so they sell at any time given that they are satisfied. They never set an entry and buy on market prices only which increases chances of losing on a better entry at a much lower price. What are the support and resistance areas for, if these traders will trade on the basis of their emotions?
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March 09, 2021, 02:20:57 PM
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It is already given that upon entering the trading industry you will be expecting that you will be earning losses more than profits at the first trials you will have as well as even if you are already an experienced one for the fact that there is a higher probability of experiencing loss in this industry and it will take hardship and effort for you to gain success through being wise on doing decisions upon picking the coin as well as maintaining that you are working into it in your favor. The data is not wrong for stating a large percentage of failures rather than success because admit it or not, it is really very challenging dealing on trading more than anything else which is why we need to be knowledgeable so we can deal with the odds and manage those so that gains will be upon us.

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March 09, 2021, 02:40:17 PM
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It is true that 95% traders lose in trading because they don't have patience, so they sell at any time given that they are satisfied. They never set an entry and buy on market prices only which increases chances of losing on a better entry at a much lower price. What are the support and resistance areas for, if these traders will trade on the basis of their emotions?
I think this data is not too accurate because in trading we often see a lot of accumulation and buying phase at a low price, this means that each person will try to buy at the price they analyzed, each person will have different milestones, usually we will not be profitable during this period and we will most likely lose more or less depending on our price level. And the data statistics will get fake signals here, 95% is just the number of the day, after a few months or weeks, this number will change in the positive direction, traders are becoming wiser, they are no longer moving with emotion

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March 09, 2021, 05:40:42 PM
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It is true that 95% traders lose in trading because they don't have patience, so they sell at any time given that they are satisfied. They never set an entry and buy on market prices only which increases chances of losing on a better entry at a much lower price. What are the support and resistance areas for, if these traders will trade on the basis of their emotions?

There are lots of reasons behind this percentage being correct. Most traders come to trade with the idea of ​​earning money fast. This thinking is formed only when they are influenced in different ways and come to trade. Online you will find lots of people who share screenshots of their profits every day to add more new traders to their group. They never share screenshots of their losses so that new traders do not see the loss side of the trade. As a result, those who follow such people and come to trade lose their capital and leave the market in a few days. Because most of these traders take trades based on emotions. So when they start making losses they become more aggressive to take more trade which results in a complete fund loss.

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March 09, 2021, 08:48:47 PM
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The data shows how important for a trader to stay longer. In short, preserving capital will result of staying on the run longer.
The chart is extremely true, that's why some successful traders keep saying how important risk management is and preserving the capital.
The game is likely how you will survive in the long term.

That's right! Always secure your capital when you do trading. Those with enough knowledge about trading will stay and survive in the long term but those without knowledge and strategy will surely loss and push them to stop trading. Trading is profitable and interesting but it depends on how you handle your trading strategy.
Easy to say but would really be hard to do when you are already on the actual situation because trading isn't simple since from the beginning even if you are already considered to be
experienced but doesn't mean that will guaranteed success into your trading career but though you would really have advantage compared to those newer ones but still you do
continue need to learn about the market because this place is a never ending thing for you to keep learning as you progress on or do trade further.Losing is inevitable
it is just a matter of persistence and dedication for you to end up to be profitable.Just don't mind out about having perfect trades because it wouldn't really happen.

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