New RTX 3060 Work Around?

[booze]

Hi fellas,

Do you think some software/GPU magician is going to be able to somehow release a work around the hash rate limiter on the new 3060's? Similar to the old Ethenlargementpill for the 1080s? Or has a factory release actually managed to lock something down tight do you think?

Cheers

[batsonxl]

After people saw that rtx 3060 can pull 48mhs speed im sure there will be hack into bios and achieve that 48mhs later we will see.

[MCcryptonia]

Don't buy the card simply because there may be a workaround on the hashrate lock later on, nothing is certain but in time we will know what will happen, for now stay away from the card and buy RTX3060ti instead

[Wotan Wipeout]

First, i didnt read about anybody who can edit the bios of a nvidia gpu.
Second, i read about the 3080ti that it has the same eth reduce (around 50%),
programmed into the bios and the driver.

The driver problem may be solved, but if the ETH mining is recognized and lowered in the bios
i dont see any chance to solve it.

[philipma1957]

yeah but it mines fine for octopus which is still a money maker.

[booze]

No need for me to buy any ATM but was curious and thought it would be a nice LOL moment if someone unlocked the cards and made NVIDIA's move any sillier

[philipma1957]

No need for me to buy any ATM but was curious and thought it would be a nice LOL moment if someone unlocked the cards and made NVIDIA's move any sillier

You never know.. But what would be better is if eth changes it al-gore-rythm to only work with the gimped 3060 cards.

Damn. that would be cool.

Every time I win a shot to buy one in the new egg shuffle I get it and mine it on octopus.  makes money. and I dream of my 3060's whaling to the altered eth algo this summer.

[booze]

No need for me to buy any ATM but was curious and thought it would be a nice LOL moment if someone unlocked the cards and made NVIDIA's move any sillier

You never know.. But what would be better is if eth changes it al-gore-rythm to only work with the gimped 3060 cards.

Damn. that would be cool.

Every time I win a shot to buy one in the new egg shuffle I get it and mine it on octopus.  makes money. and I dream of my 3060's whaling to the altered eth algo this summer.

hahaha you are spot on, that would be hilarious!!!

[Juggar]

The question has been asked many times.

Right now there is no known way to get around, and there likely never will be.

I run my 3060 in my Plex server for transcoding duty but also mine Octopus on it.

Nice hash says it gets around $3.15 a day as of today with 45 MH/s on octopus. (80% PL, +250 core, + 1200 mem).

[philipma1957]

The question has been asked many times.

Right now there is no known way to get around, and there likely never will be.

I run my 3060 in my Plex server for transcoding duty but also mine Octopus on it.

Nice hash says it gets around $3.15 a day as of today with 45 MH/s on octopus. (80% PL, +250 core, + 1200 mem).

which is a fine set of numbers for me. So my advice is if you find a cheap one under 400 usd get it.

[JayDDee]

Right now there is no known way to get around, and there likely never will be.

Not true. It's as simple as antivirus with the hat colours reversed. The antivirus is wearing the black hat
because it's blocking software legitimate users want. That motivation alone makes it only a matter of time
until it's cracked.

The Nvidia block is nothing more than a signature based "virus" detector with only one virus definition,
that being ethereum miners. Just need to tinker with the mining code to find the signature Nvidia uses
and change it slightly. It doesn't even have to change the algorithm, just the code used as the signature.

Then Nvidia will need to update the virus definition, but that's not as simple as with AV software.
Users will actively resist the update and the only way to force it is with new hardware.

[Juggar]

Right now there is no known way to get around, and there likely never will be.

Not true. It's as simple as antivirus with the hat colours reversed. The antivirus is wearing the black hat
because it's blocking software legitimate users want. That motivation alone makes it only a matter of time
until it's cracked.

The Nvidia block is nothing more than a signature based "virus" detector with only one virus definition,
that being ethereum miners. Just need to tinker with the mining code to find the signature Nvidia uses
and change it slightly. It doesn't even have to change the algorithm, just the code used as the signature.

Then Nvidia will need to update the virus definition, but that's not as simple as with AV software.
Users will actively resist the update and the only way to force it is with new hardware.

Well it hasn't happened thus far, if it were easily done, it would be cracked already.

Nvidia can also improve it as each new card comes out, who knows, the 3080 Ti could be limited across all major algos.

[JayDDee]

Well it hasn't happened thus far, if it were easily done, it would be cracked already.

Nvidia can also improve it as each new card comes out, who knows, the 3080 Ti could be limited across all major algos.

3060s are still rare and hard to get and they aren't really that attractive for large scale mining so it's still very early.
If the 3080ti is gimped there will be more of a rush to hack it.

If Nividia escalates this into an arms race they can't win because algos can be tweaked indefinitely.

[miner29]

But they win as long as demand and prices stay sky high....

[JayDDee]

But they win as long as demand and prices stay sky high....

But what the're doing is intended to reduce demand. They need to increase supply, the Turing CMPs
need to be plentyful and cheaper than equivalent RTX. Then miners and gamers are happy and Nvidia
makes more money.

[philipma1957]

But they win as long as demand and prices stay sky high....

Yeah this could killed them bigly amd may say buy us we can mine eth

Also I get over 4 a day on my 3060 doing octopus.  So I simply say 100 x 4 = 400 = just about roi buy it anyway.

[Toughit]

Right now there is no known way to get around, and there likely never will be.

Not true. It's as simple as antivirus with the hat colours reversed. The antivirus is wearing the black hat
because it's blocking software legitimate users want. That motivation alone makes it only a matter of time
until it's cracked.

The Nvidia block is nothing more than a signature based "virus" detector with only one virus definition,
that being ethereum miners. Just need to tinker with the mining code to find the signature Nvidia uses
and change it slightly. It doesn't even have to change the algorithm, just the code used as the signature.

Then Nvidia will need to update the virus definition, but that's not as simple as with AV software.
Users will actively resist the update and the only way to force it is with new hardware.

Well it hasn't happened thus far, if it were easily done, it would be cracked already.



Nvidia can also improve it as each new card comes out, who knows, the 3080 Ti could be limited across all major algos.

There aren't that many 3060's out there yet. 

Do we even know if any of the major Eth mining software owners even have a 3060 to play with?

Maybe we need to take up a collection and get a card to Phoenix Miner.

[JayDDee]

Yeah this could killed them bigly amd may say buy us we can mine eth

There are rumours of AMD producing mining cards. Hopefully the'll be smart and use the carrot
(lower price on mining cards) and not the stick (gimping gaming cards), to relieve the shortage of
gaming cards.

[JayDDee]

Maybe we need to take up a collection and get a card to Phoenix Miner.

Some of the big miner devs have been absent from their threads since the new year.
Seems unusual considering the current frenzy.

[Hueristic]

People have this backwards.

Nvidia knows full well that professional miners will find a workaround.

This is targeted at the causal miner.

The kids that have to pay too high a price for a card that will no longer earn them anything to take the edge off the overprice they paid. They7 wrap it in a lie that they are "protecting " them when its all about the bottom line.

This will also hurt the decentralization of all crypto.