New RTX 3060 Work Around?

[buraz11]

Its not a rumor about the amd mining gpu its called GPRO X070

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/77380/sapphires-new-fanless-radeon-rx-5700-xt-is-silent-crypto-mining-gpu/index.html
I tried contacting sapphire to buy some, no response.

[fr4nkthetank]

Nvidia : Selling gpus direct to big miners in batches
Also Nvidia : Retail person NO YOU CANT MINE GAMING ONLY PLS

roll eyes

[JayDDee]

People have this backwards.

Nvidia knows full well that professional miners will find a workaround.

This is targeted at the causal miner.

The kids that have to pay too high a price for a card that will no longer earn them anything to take the edge off the overprice they paid. They7 wrap it in a lie that they are "protecting " them when its all about the bottom line.

This will also hurt the decentralization of all crypto.

You've got a good point but I don't see how it helps their bottom line, seems more like it's just PR for gamers.
They screwed themselves by letting the scalpers rule. They could have delayed the release until they built up
some inventory, they could have set the MSRP higher, they could have continued to sell RTX2000s, all of which
would have made them more profit.

The 2 main factors blamed for the shortage of cards (pandemic & BTC bull run) were both very evident when they
first released the RTX3000 series. They should have seen it coming.

[philipma1957]

Nvidia : Selling gpus direct to big miners in batches
Also Nvidia : Retail person NO YOU CANT MINE GAMING ONLY PLS

roll eyes

My single Nvidia 3060 mining at nicehash


https://www.nicehash.com/my/miner/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

So yeah it does not make a fortune but it will pay for itself in well under a year if I get it at retail price.

So with 3060 I look to get it at retail price.

  I got one from the Newegg Shuffle for msrp. $428 after tax and shipping it burns 5 kwatts on a 1 card rig. my winter power cost is 10 cents my summer cost is 18 cents.  so 50-90 cents make it 70 cents on average it earns 2.50-3.00 a day make it 2.70 a day - .70 is 2 bucks a day.  or 428/2 = 214 days for a free card.
I have a 3 year warranty.  I have zero issue buying these and mining octopus. I would add 3 more today if I got them at $428 each. So effectively to a guy like me 50+ plus cards running this is not a problem.

But to a guy with a 2 card rig that wants to game in the day and mine at night this is a fuckover.

[jerkob]

How dumb would it be to just flash the 3060ti bios on them and get rid of the nasty code bits?

[joniosbra]

How dumb would it be to just flash the 3060ti bios on them and get rid of the nasty code bits?

Try this and let us know 

[Sebahl]

I think if a miner dev finds a workaround for this, he/she will make bank. All 3060s produced will use that miner.

[jerkob]

How dumb would it be to just flash the 3060ti bios on them and get rid of the nasty code bits?

Try this and let us know 

I bought 10 of them, i would be willing to try it if we crowdsource 200 dollars worth of crypto

i know its hard to trust a newbie account, but im willing to put my try up on YT or something similar, and document the whole thing,

as linus torvalds said and i quote:"NVIDIA, FUCK YOU".

the faster we find a workaround the faster nvidia will stop building this silly measures into their shitty cards

[nsummy]

Take this with a grain of salt, but a couple of weeks ago I read on reddit that someone (or group) was working on a "fix" where it would store the dag in the normal system RAM, and then just stop and restart mining every 60 seconds (or however long it takes for the throttling to begin), then copy the dag back into the GPU memory, rinse and repeat 

[Juggar]

Take this with a grain of salt, but a couple of weeks ago I read on reddit that someone (or group) was working on a "fix" where it would store the dag in the normal system RAM, and then just stop and restart mining every 60 seconds (or however long it takes for the throttling to begin), then copy the dag back into the GPU memory, rinse and repeat 

Pretty sure I read the nerf is instant, the mining programs lag with the output they show.

Nvidia isn't stupid.

[JayDDee]

Take this with a grain of salt, but a couple of weeks ago I read on reddit that someone (or group) was working on a "fix" where it would store the dag in the normal system RAM, and then just stop and restart mining every 60 seconds (or however long it takes for the throttling to begin), then copy the dag back into the GPU memory, rinse and repeat 

Pretty sure I read the nerf is instant, the mining programs lag with the output they show.

Nvidia isn't stupid.

It depends on the miner. Some miners average the hashrate so it smooths out the variations, others
will show the near instantaneous hashrate which will show a drop immediately.

It's also why competing over a % hashrate here or there is silly.

Regarding your second statement, I'm not sure I agree considering the current fiasco.

If the DAG copy technique works it give a clue to how the gimping is implemented which could
lead to a more elegant solution.

[igotek]

No need for me to buy any ATM but was curious and thought it would be a nice LOL moment if someone unlocked the cards and made NVIDIA's move any sillier

You never know.. But what would be better is if eth changes it al-gore-rythm to only work with the gimped 3060 cards.

Damn. that would be cool.

Every time I win a shot to buy one in the new egg shuffle I get it and mine it on octopus.  makes money. and I dream of my 3060's whaling to the altered eth algo this summer.

I have 36 of them in 3 rigs. I like them because all of them are the same model. And one ore thing its so hard to find many gpus lately. But i can find 3060 easily
I have already 14G ethash hashrate, i think octopus may be a new ethereum for miners

[mochaaa]

I guess there's already rumor of a fix?

https://wccftech.com/chinese-cryptocurrency-miners-allegedly-bypass-nvidias-geforce-rtx-3060-hash-rate-limiter-delivers-up-to-50-mh-s-in-ethereum/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Juggar]

I guess there's already rumor of a fix?

https://wccftech.com/chinese-cryptocurrency-miners-allegedly-bypass-nvidias-geforce-rtx-3060-hash-rate-limiter-delivers-up-to-50-mh-s-in-ethereum/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Of course they'll never say how, to keep them to themselves. Typical.

That being said, there's rumors its only Octopus they are showing, and those speeds are exactly what you'd expect from a tuned card (3060).

Could also be GPU resellers trying to increase the price of 3060 artificially.

I refuse to believe it until its confirmed by a trusted source.

[zbynio]

fake this is octopus

[Juggar]

fake this is octopus

Yup, was just confirmed as fake.

https://twitter.com/I_Leak_VN/status/1369632994407804941

[Bogart]

Right now there is no known way to get around, and there likely never will be.

Not true. It's as simple as antivirus with the hat colours reversed. The antivirus is wearing the black hat
because it's blocking software legitimate users want. That motivation alone makes it only a matter of time
until it's cracked.

The Nvidia block is nothing more than a signature based "virus" detector with only one virus definition,
that being ethereum miners. Just need to tinker with the mining code to find the signature Nvidia uses
and change it slightly. It doesn't even have to change the algorithm, just the code used as the signature.

Then Nvidia will need to update the virus definition, but that's not as simple as with AV software.
Users will actively resist the update and the only way to force it is with new hardware.

Well it hasn't happened thus far, if it were easily done, it would be cracked already.

Nvidia can also improve it as each new card comes out, who knows, the 3080 Ti could be limited across all major algos.

If I had the crack I would keep it private until after the 3080 Ti launched.

[zbynio]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-3060-mining-block-seems-to-have-been-finally-hacked-ether-hash-rate-of-53-mh-s-unlocked/

[Hueristic]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-3060-mining-block-seems-to-have-been-finally-hacked-ether-hash-rate-of-53-mh-s-unlocked/

Of course, there’s a chance that the hash rate still drops after three minutes of mining which is why we can’t be 100% sure just yet that the anti-miner block has been hacked. It might still be kicking in after four or five minutes of operation, making the 3060 unfit for mining Ether. As such, take this with a grain of salt until we have some solid proof.

[skablast]

I found some ZOTAC GAMING GEFORCE RTX 3060 TI TWIN EDGE OC 8GB GDDR6X.

Are those limited as well ?
Limitation is active ONLY on the normal 3060  that does have 3584 cores?
Basically if it does have 4864 Cores isn't limited ?