Why COVID diagnostics are crashing.

[MUHAMMAD NUR AMANAH]

I may personally that may be possible because each person is immune to themselves not quite the same depending on the person himself and perhaps that's some small example of why the corona virus can't be accurate or maybe it can be some small example of why the corona virus is evolving over time and various ways to prevent the corona virus developing Dealing with this and finding a cure or vaccine that could prevent the transmission of the corona virus, and it could also be our hope that this pandemic will soon be over, maintain a healthy sense of distance as well as cleanliness and obey health protocols

[BADecker]

When you look at statistics as a whole, there are far fewer people that were reported dying from Covid than from cancer or heart disease. Later, the CDC said that 94% of these people essentially died from something else.

And then if you throw in the fact that the CDC had to combine Covid deaths with influenza deaths with pneumonia deaths just to hide the fact that, without their push to make Covid into something, the deaths would have been attributed to influenza or pneumonia.

Essentially, Covid is big bunch of blab by the medical, the media, and governments. People who are nutritionally sound are not even affected by Covid. People who are mentally sound, are not even affected by the fear of Covid.

[tabas]

I have noticed that the numbers had decreased and what most people are scared of are the opening of ports and can no longer bear another series of lockdowns because it's totally going to dry the economy of a country that will do that entirely. Those recordings about deaths not from covid and being recorded as covid, they're also a hot issue since last year. But we're now having probably the last wave since the vaccines are rolling out. And with the decline of the number of cases, people have learned that following simple protocols and measures are helping.

[Gyfts]

But still there are many countries who are yet to receive their ordered vaccines which means how they able to reduce the number of cases in the same time? Maybe it has an effect but it is clear that media lost their interest so we are not seeing much aggressive news about covid and it also seems that number of affected persons are also decreasing.

Look at the data and see if there are any clear patterns. Anecdotal evidence and speculation give us nothing... nothing beyond an initial hypothesis, which then needs to be tested against the data.
We've had a year of this pandemic, all around the globe. There are vast quantities of data from a vast number of independent sources. Let's not rely on speculation too much.

Pick a country that has reduced cases but no real vaccination programme. Look at the data, and see what's happening. Has a lockdown reduced community transmission? Compulsory mask-wearing? Is there a decline in testing, and therefore a decline in confirmed cases? Is the government claiming that Covid deaths are actually deaths from other causes - in which case the pattern would become clear from an excess mortality analysis. What do the data tell us?

The point of a vaccine is to reach herd immunity so by being purely technical, it can be said that cases are coming down due to herd immunity. So even if no vaccination program existed, eventually cases have to come down.

There are only two ways of reaching herd immunity.

1.) Mass vaccination
2.) Mass community spread.

So we have a lot of data for the US because they've vaccinated the most in absolute numbers. Take a look at the NYT daily case chart - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

You obviously see the steep decline which is a result of the elderly getting vaccinated and because millions have already gotten the virus, recovered, and can no longer transmit. The amount of people vaccinated do not even come close to *true* herd immunity which is 80 percent or more, but if you think about it -- the older folks getting vaccinated means the virus will primarily transmit within the younger population. This means you get less positive test results because younger folks will probably by asymptomatic and will not produce a positive test result.

[Mauser]

I have noticed that the numbers had decreased and what most people are scared of are the opening of ports and can no longer bear another series of lockdowns because it's totally going to dry the economy of a country that will do that entirely. Those recordings about deaths not from covid and being recorded as covid, they're also a hot issue since last year. But we're now having probably the last wave since the vaccines are rolling out. And with the decline of the number of cases, people have learned that following simple protocols and measures are helping.

Yeah I hope this is the case. In my country they are now selling corona self testing kits for home. No idea how is this going to work. I hope that not many people will actually use them, because otherwise the corona numbers are going to rise again a lot. Especially for the false positive cases, of which there are quite a few lately. And what about self reporting as a corona person? Somehow we need to get back to a normal life. It has been almost 1.5 years already.

[tabas]

I have noticed that the numbers had decreased and what most people are scared of are the opening of ports and can no longer bear another series of lockdowns because it's totally going to dry the economy of a country that will do that entirely. Those recordings about deaths not from covid and being recorded as covid, they're also a hot issue since last year. But we're now having probably the last wave since the vaccines are rolling out. And with the decline of the number of cases, people have learned that following simple protocols and measures are helping.

Yeah I hope this is the case. In my country they are now selling corona self testing kits for home. No idea how is this going to work. I hope that not many people will actually use them, because otherwise the corona numbers are going to rise again a lot. Especially for the false positive cases, of which there are quite a few lately. And what about self reporting as a corona person? Somehow we need to get back to a normal life. It has been almost 1.5 years already.

Those kits are just a way to check if the people at their homes are probably infected, although most of those aren't really accurate but they are doing something to help themselves and to determine if they have the virus or not. It's actually a good initiative from those individuals and they're not only helping themselves but also the people who are near them. We'll be back to the normal living in the near future but not in the soonest that we can think.

[BADecker]

^^^ There are loads of tiny particles in the body. Nobody properly sorted out any Covid virus from the rest of the stuff, so that they could say with certainty that they know that there is a virus.

Yes doctor, any basis? research, article or research journal is accepted.

I don't have prior knowledge with these about "Tiny Particles" withholding a virus from being detected and such.

Try looking at some blood under a microscope. After all, nobody has detected a Covid virus. It's all guess-work. There are loads of tiny particles the size of viruses. Exosomes are some of them.

    

[Vatimins]

     Quite an interesting thought and has quite some legitimacy to it. But even so, I still think the preventive measures of the governments which are requiring face masks, social distancing, population control on malls and all, lockdowns, quarantines of different types along with all the other preventive measures that I failed to mention were helpful and really did have some important role in reducing the number of new active cases for covid-19.

[Natsuu]

^^^ There are loads of tiny particles in the body. Nobody properly sorted out any Covid virus from the rest of the stuff, so that they could say with certainty that they know that there is a virus.

Yes doctor, any basis? research, article or research journal is accepted.

I don't have prior knowledge with these about "Tiny Particles" withholding a virus from being detected and such.

Try looking at some blood under a microscope. After all, nobody has detected a Covid virus. It's all guess-work. There are loads of tiny particles the size of viruses. Exosomes are some of them.

    

In other words, you are just making stuffs out, whoopsies.

You don't have any evidences or supporting documents that will fortified your claims, ergo it is useless and irrelevant.

[Cnut237]

nobody has detected a Covid virus. It's all guess-work.

Here you go. Assume 'guess-work' was a typo and you meant 'verifiable and reproducible scientific evidence'.


_{Thin-section electron micrographs of the 2019 novel coronavirus grown in cells at The University of Hong Kong. Image from John Nicholls, Leo Poon and Malik Peiris, The University of Hong Kong (Posted on Twitter/@hkumed on February 3, 2020)}

https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story/coronavirus-2019-ncov-photos-microscope-images-1642905-2020-02-03

[Tash]

COVID cases: South Africa’s mysterious coronavirus turnaround
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/covid-cases-south-africas-mysterious-coronavirus-turnaround/news-story/37a576067f5d825b5bc141c90e5fb989

[Cnut237]

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It's great news that the anticipated wave of new infections didn't appear. And it is indeed somewhat of a mystery.
We shouldn't jump to conclusions, so it's just speculation at the moment... and the most likely explanation is perhaps that a degree of herd immunity has been achieved. Excess deaths in January vastly outstripped confirmed Covid deaths, which suggests a large degree of under-reporting of cases.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/south-africas-drop-in-covid-19-cases-adds-to-questions-about-waves-of-infections-11615734003

[Toplistico.com]

I have the thought that the global Covid-19 cases have dropped because human immunity is getting used to the presence of this virus.

[Sterbens]

Now, exactly about Covid 19 is not clear, data from the government engaged in the vaccine business is increasingly being played with, even though there are many irregularities. For example, the country where I live will use the vaccine from China. The local government said "we will use the vaccine from China according to the direction and policy of the Ministry of Health, but if the vaccine from China does not react, then we will replace it with a vaccine from the UK."
Doesn't it look like citizens are turning into mice, switching from vaccine to vaccine. obviously we weren't even sure, and refused to be vaccinated.
the government does not give full confidence in the assurance of safety. Plus the current growing issue, that there is a fake vaccine that is spreading. the residents' fear grew.

[BADecker]

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It's great news that the anticipated wave of new infections didn't appear. And it is indeed somewhat of a mystery.
We shouldn't jump to conclusions, so it's just speculation at the moment... and the most likely explanation is perhaps that a degree of herd immunity has been achieved. Excess deaths in January vastly outstripped confirmed Covid deaths, which suggests a large degree of under-reporting of cases.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/south-africas-drop-in-covid-19-cases-adds-to-questions-about-waves-of-infections-11615734003

If Budesonide, or HCQ + zinc had been used, there would have only been a few deaths, and there wouldn't have been any pandemic.

[Cnut237]

If Budesonide, or HCQ + zinc had been used, there would have only been a few deaths, and there wouldn't have been any pandemic.

The thing is though, you need to supply evidence to back up these claims. Not just someone talking on YouTube, but proper data. Peer reviewed papers, mass trials involving thousands of test subjects, meta-analyses bringing in data from different and independent sources, that sort of thing. That would give your assertions more weight.

[BADecker]

If Budesonide, or HCQ + zinc had been used, there would have only been a few deaths, and there wouldn't have been any pandemic.

The thing is though, you need to supply evidence to back up these claims. Not just someone talking on YouTube, but proper data. Peer reviewed papers, mass trials involving thousands of test subjects, meta-analyses bringing in data from different and independent sources, that sort of thing. That would give your assertions more weight.

You didn't click the link in my signature area? But if-you-did/when-you-do, you need to follow up by contacting the doctor and his staff, and getting the proof. The proof isn't just going to jump into your lap... except, of course, if you cured your cat with Budesonide.

[Cnut237]

contacting the doctor and his staff, and getting the proof.

My point really is that whatever your opinion on a topic, you'll certainly be able to find someone, somewhere who agrees with it. But the opinion of one doctor is not the same as the opinions of the rest of the scientific establishment. We need data to make a judgement. This is why large studies are better than small studies, why data attained from multiple independent sources are better than are from a single source, why reputable sources and websites with a proven track record are better than a random doctor on YouTube.

[franky1]

use of drugs that have immune-surpressor element. should not be taken as a daily supplement before getting infected. as it dampens your immune system. meaning your body is not ready to fight it off effectively..

immuno suppression should only be used after the infection has peaked. to then dampen down the immune response IF its the immune response thats then causing adverse symptoms beyond whats meant to happen

many studies have been done and found that although the theory of immune suppression can reduce deaths caused by immune overload.. the reality is that using it too soon or too late makes the drug ineffective as a treatment.

remember the doctors advertising people should buy drugs/supplements when not currently suffering and use them above daily recommended dosages. are what the world call 'pillmills' selling pharma for profit

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as for the graph with the high excess death in december that is much higher then covid.
well it appears that those diagnosed.tested. scanned. treated but then succumb to covid and die. are covid deaths.
but there are alot that are not tested/scanned/diagnosed/treated. thus they have not been categorised as a covid death
it proves that not everyone is just auto-listed as covid death.
places like nursing homes with residents on DNR have had their death not listed as covid death even though covid and fighting covid was the ailment that made them suffer

yes maybe cuomo could have made it a policy to swab.blood test. xray and diagnose all corpses instead of his cover up.
but the stats show something in 2020 did cause significant larger amount of deaths than normal and it appears that 80% of decembers excess deaths of covid was under counted.. unlike badeckers assumption of over counting

[BADecker]

Drugs are poison. It kinda works like this.

You get illness/malady ABC. Immune system action DEF is just the right thing to handle illness/malady ABC. But for some reason the immune system isn't sensitive enough to realize that illness/malady ABC exists in a rather dangerous way. Possibly the immune system is all worn out from fighting all kinds of illnesses/maladies without the proper nutrition to keep it going.

So, the doctor gives drug XYZ, which causes the immune system to go into overdrive. The immune system feels drug XYZ. It says, "Yikes, danger, danger, danger. Emergency, emergency, emergency... there's a big, bad, killer drug XYZ that has just entered the system." So the immune system goes into overdrive, and accidentally activates immune system action DEF, which cures illness/malady ABC at the same time it is defeating drug XYZ.

When the body is finally past the danger zone, the poor, all-tired-out immune system takes a break. It gradually returns to its former strength, which wasn't really strength at all. About that time the doctor gives another dose of the drug, and it starts all over again.

Finally the immune system is so weak, that it doesn't react to any drugs any longer. The doctor says that the illness/malady has become drug resistant, when all it is, is a worn out immune system.

If the patient doesn't die, he is admitted to the hospital with some form of autoimmune disease... which is really only immune system sluggishness. Then the hospital kills him... accidentally, of course.