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March 06, 2021, 11:54:15 PM
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Hi everyone, I read some rumours of companies or groups offering services of betting on your behalf on matches in which the betting house got, for whatever reason, their odds wrong. A friend told me that he was successful in doubling his money, although the houses obviously close any account that looks suspicious. Do you guys know any of these services?

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March 06, 2021, 11:59:06 PM
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Hi everyone, I read some rumours of companies or groups offering services of betting on your behalf on matches in which the betting house got, for whatever reason, their odds wrong. A friend told me that he was successful in doubling his money, although the houses obviously close any account that looks suspicious. Do you guys know any of these services?

You mean those sportsbetting brokers? Im not sure if i do get the wrong idea but turns out that you are pertaining about those services who do make out bet for you if you dont able to do so due
to possible restriction or just simply finding out the best odds for certain game you do tend to bet on.

About on those house betting on your behalf then im not aware for such service to exist because its just nonsense if house will make out bets for you and there no point
on playing gambling in that case.

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March 07, 2021, 01:32:51 AM
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As Oilacris mentioned, you might be referring to betting brokers.

But before you get into it, have you asked yourself why you need one in the first place? If you are betting moderate amounts and are doing it from a jurisdiction which is not restricted by your platform of choice, I don't think you really need a broker. Yes, brokers may offer you certain odds exclusively available to VIPs, but I don't think it's worth it if you are not really a heavy bettor. After all, certain fees will have to be charged on you.

Don't get into it simply because a friend has doubled his money. This a scammer's line. Instead, know all the pros and cons.

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March 07, 2021, 01:37:56 AM
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Hi everyone, I read some rumours of companies or groups offering services of betting on your behalf on matches in which the betting house got, for whatever reason, their odds wrong. A friend told me that he was successful in doubling his money, although the houses obviously close any account that looks suspicious. Do you guys know any of these services?

You mean arbitrage or exploiting mispricings due to system errors?

If the former, then people have been doing this for quite a while now. But personally I do not think it is worth it given the fact that you're giving up control over your funds to some random organisation/person for very little potential return.

If the latter, most sportsbooks have protections in place to prevent them from being liable to pay out mispriced odds. It's likely not going to be a very long term strategy given that they'll catch up to what the group's doing very soon.
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March 07, 2021, 02:23:11 AM
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Although I don't know about that services, I think it is not worth sending our money to someone we don't know to just playing gambling. That is your money, and you need to have a responsibility for the money, even if they say that they can place the bet for you if gambling is prohibited in your country.

You don't have to follow your friend to use that service because sometimes the services look very real to people, and after they get for some people, they will run away without saying anything. That would look suspicious if they said that they have an accurate prediction because that will not be easy to have that thing in sports betting.
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March 07, 2021, 03:06:21 AM
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The first part sounds like a betting broker as they're the ones who offer a wide variety of odds from different sportsbook but the wrong odds that your friend mentioned doesn't come with it though. It's probably an error on their end as it could happen sometimes. If they catch you doing it multiple times the punishment isn't always a ban since there's different ways of to drive gamblers away without putting a ban like reversing the bets or putting a very small limit on all the markets.

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March 07, 2021, 03:49:21 AM
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We have got more legitimate access with trusted gambling platforms. Maybe your friend is lucky to make a win out of the error, but the same won't happen with you. In some cases there will be fixed Matches in which you can place bets if the person have proven track record.

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March 07, 2021, 04:09:05 AM
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do they get access to fix matches?

if no then they are just as much as you are as a bettor who could also analyze which team or athlete will win over the other. why not just do it yourself. if you an avid fan of the sports or the team you support then just bet for yourself. you can't tell whether the sports betting brokers will tell you the truth or not. this is will be a challenge in the end for you.









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March 07, 2021, 04:23:41 AM
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Hi everyone, I read some rumours of companies or groups offering services of betting on your behalf on matches in which the betting house got, for whatever reason, their odds wrong. A friend told me that he was successful in doubling his money, although the houses obviously close any account that looks suspicious. Do you guys know any of these services?

I'm not familiar with that kind of service but if you have already doubts about it I think it is much better to stay away from it for your own safety or if you were really curious and wanted to test it out I think you can transfer a small amount to test it but it looks like they have a minimum deposit? If yes I think you should stay away from it.

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March 07, 2021, 05:29:22 AM
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You lost me here mate neither do I like the sound of this, by betting on your behalf do you min something like account management? If that's what you getting at....are these not the same people that also claim to sell games in the name of fixed matches??

TBH I have a bias when it comes to such, anything that has account management for me is scam as I had a similar experience with forex and things didn't go as planned!
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I have a negative attitude towards asset management whether it's betting or trading so I never use third party services and don't advise anyone because it increases your risks. In addition, using this kind of service does not allow you to gain experience, thus increasing your analytical skills, which is very important if you are into betting.

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March 07, 2021, 06:40:12 AM
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Hi everyone, I read some rumours of companies or groups offering services of betting on your behalf on matches in which the betting house got, for whatever reason, their odds wrong. A friend told me that he was successful in doubling his money, although the houses obviously close any account that looks suspicious. Do you guys know any of these services?
Sorry but why you asked this? don't you have believe in your instinct ? Gambling is base on Luck and if there are some offering like this meaning there are something
happening on that specific game that is not right.
How can someone assures you of winning when no one knows what will comes a result?
I have a negative attitude towards asset management whether it's betting or trading so I never use third party services and don't advise anyone because it increases your risks. In addition, using this kind of service does not allow you to gain experience, thus increasing your analytical skills, which is very important if you are into betting.
That's simply correct how can you experience and learn from your mistakes if you are relying on others instinct of betting?

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Hi everyone, I read some rumours of companies or groups offering services of betting on your behalf on matches in which the betting house got, for whatever reason, their odds wrong. A friend told me that he was successful in doubling his money, although the houses obviously close any account that looks suspicious. Do you guys know any of these services?

If the guy you are pertaining is really your friend, why not ask him directly on where he get that services. If that service is legit, I’m sure that you will not find it publicly because there service is special and might take down by gambling operator. I doubt that you will a service that offers like that here dude.

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March 07, 2021, 06:58:52 AM
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I didn't understand when you said that betting house got their odds wrong. However, there are sports betting websites where I think if a user makes a good amount of money, the website puts certain restrictions on them like maximum betting limit in that case, giving money to brokers to bet on your behalf makes sense, but then again, the thrill to gamble by own can't be matched with that by taking someone else's service as afterall gambling is an entertainment Tongue
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That's simply correct how can you experience and learn from your mistakes if you are relying on others instinct of betting?

You can get experience, but it will not be commensurate with the experience you get with your own analysis. Analyzing the odds on your own you gradually improve your skills and every mistake makes you put more effort and time into analyzing the past matches if we're talking about soccer as every loss takes a part of your money.

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March 07, 2021, 08:12:39 AM
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Hi everyone, I read some rumours of companies or groups offering services of betting on your behalf on matches in which the betting house got, for whatever reason, their odds wrong. A friend told me that he was successful in doubling his money, although the houses obviously close any account that looks suspicious. Do you guys know any of these services?

I would be very careful with such kind of services. It is hard to verify if the service is legit. In my opinion the risk of losing all our money to a scam is just too high. Imagine they take your money and just say they lost it all, without actually betting with it. Also why would a successful bookmaker bet for you if he can just bet with his own money? There must be some hidden risks.
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March 07, 2021, 10:09:23 AM
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Hi everyone, I read some rumours of companies or groups offering services of betting on your behalf on matches in which the betting house got, for whatever reason, their odds wrong. A friend told me that he was successful in doubling his money, although the houses obviously close any account that looks suspicious. Do you guys know any of these services?
I haven't heard of this, but I wouldn't consider using such a service even if it existed. Firstly, it's against the rules of casinos to benefit from their mistakes. Secondly, it seems morally wrong to do so. Thirdly, casinos often reserve the right to void bets which involved some technical mistakes, so there's a big chance that the payout wouldn't come.
If you mean something else like betting brokers which might look for special deals for their clients, it can be totally legal and legit, but you'd have to pay them service fees for their work on finding the best odds and placing the bets. And betting brokers aren't looking to exploit some errors; they're just looking at lots of sportsbooks, looking for the best deal.

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March 07, 2021, 10:24:14 AM
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although the houses obviously close any account that looks suspicious.
Please explain more about this, like for what instance?

Do you guys know any of these services?
Your friend probably talking about sports betting broker, it's existing but I don't think they will let themselves abuse by arbitrage betting as in the first place they are operating to be profitable and they definitely know what they are doing.

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March 07, 2021, 11:59:36 AM
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We have got more legitimate access with trusted gambling platforms. Maybe your friend is lucky to make a win out of the error, but the same won't happen with you. In some cases there will be fixed Matches in which you can place bets if the person have proven track record.
It can be tagged as illegal on some gambling site, so better to be safe to enjoy your real winnings. There are brokers than can work with you under the table but you have to pay the price first, and of course the profit is still not guaranteed. Why not enjoy betting on your own and don’t make this gambling as your real business? That’s too risky for me.
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March 07, 2021, 12:06:03 PM
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Hi, I am surprised that this question raised so many questions, but I guess I did not make it clear, so

No it is no a broker, it is a service that will make bet on your behalf when they think that the odds are very much in your favour.
No, it is not betting for fun, it is betting for profit, so houses do not like it. They will ban your account if they find out.
Yes these services exists although I am not going to link the one I know because I think betting should be fair. I do not use it.

I am just interested in knowing how widespread this is, and for the answers it seems that not a lot. Which is good.

although the houses obviously close any account that looks suspicious.

Just like that. If they think your bets are on a pattern and not casual they ban the account and user.

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