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March 08, 2021, 04:10:19 AM
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Hi, i am offering a service to exchange smaller amounts of bitcoin between a few trusted sites I have dealt with and believe are reputable.

How it Works
I will accept tips on the supporting sites in exchange to send to your account on another supported site. This helps bypass the sites withdrawal / cashout fees which are usually pretty large due to the higher transaction fees on the network.

How can you afford that?
I hold bitcoin on the supported sites listed. These sites all allow tips / player to player transfers with little or no fee.  This is how my service works and I can charge smaller fees than trying to withdraw bitcoin to another bitcoin supported site you want to use.


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www.bustabit.com   (Immediate Withdrawal Fee = 150+ bits)
www.bustadice.com     (Immediate Withdrawal Fee = 150+ bits)  
www.TIP.cc Discord bot    (Immediate Withdrawal Fee = Always Changing)


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March 08, 2021, 09:10:40 AM
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as you are new to this service, you need to build first your reputation here. and that would take time. you have to understand that it is quite hard to trust your funds to a newly-introduced website. you are already offering economical fees however i guess it is not enough to attract potential customers. think of some promotional rewards for the first use (just an example)
maybe add telegram also as one of your contacts other than the chat support system.

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March 08, 2021, 02:34:35 PM
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Interesting concept, although I'm sure the use case will be very limited.

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I agree. Consider adding live support channels, or maybe make the website more palatable because now it looks pretty stale in the design department.

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March 08, 2021, 03:46:29 PM
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The service is quite interesting and will be much preferred, but for some reason I want to know how this service gets operated. Because, every gambling platform have got its own automated withdrawal system. Whenever an user wants to make a withdrawal, automatically on approval it gets credited to the address added on withdrawal. Here which way you'll speedup the withdrawal process.
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March 08, 2021, 04:11:30 PM
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How do you expect anyone here to trust a newbie without high green trust ratings? Your intentions seem right, but you need to build your reputation in this forum in order to provide such services successfully op.

Currently, the high BTC and ETH fees can be tackled through transaction accelerators, using altcoins whose TX times and fees are low(LTC, XRP etc), LN etc.

Also, are you using some kind of secret wallet or something since I never heard of a wallet that allows sending BTC successfully without providing any fees?

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March 08, 2021, 04:38:29 PM
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thanks for all the feedback,  i am new so i understand the trust issues.  I have been operating using the spam chat channels on bustabit and bustadice to get a small customer base.  I wanted to try and expand and found another reputable site in stake.com and though this forum might be a good place to atleast get the word out more.

Ill hopefully be doing a rework on the site design. I am not very good design or coder so have done it on my own.  I will try to get more ways of easier contact besides just the live chat.

The wallet I use is a pretty large one that does many transactions a minute that they do not charge anyone to send bitcoin, only when you purchase it or sell it.  (the buy and sell transfers i think cover all the fees for the onchain transactions)
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March 08, 2021, 06:17:13 PM
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I have a wallet that allows me to send bitcoin at no fee to me but still pays a high enough fee to get the miners to include it.
Can you share how this works? Who's paying the transaction fees?

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March 09, 2021, 08:38:28 AM
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The wallet I use is a pretty large one that does many transactions a minute that they do not charge anyone to send bitcoin, only when you purchase it or sell it.  (the buy and sell transfers i think cover all the fees for the onchain transactions)
This has stoked my curiosity. If it's is a large wallet as you mentioned, it must be a popular one used by many people, but I have used many popular wallets and never found one that matches this particular description.

I still don't understand how they manage to stay in profit if they cover TX fees of their customers. Can you specify the name of the wallet here?

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March 09, 2021, 09:02:05 AM
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The idea could work, but I also think that many players do not trust services like this very fast. This is something that needs to built up trust.
I am also not sure how they can get benefits from this service. There should be an idea behind if of course. Maybe just built a reputation first and charge fees later on.

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March 09, 2021, 02:22:51 PM
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thanks for all the feedback,  i am new so i understand the trust issues.  I have been operating using the spam chat channels on bustabit and bustadice to get a small customer base.  I wanted to try and expand and found another reputable site in stake.com and though this forum might be a good place to atleast get the word out more.

Ill hopefully be doing a rework on the site design. I am not very good design or coder so have done it on my own.  I will try to get more ways of easier contact besides just the live chat.

The wallet I use is a pretty large one that does many transactions a minute that they do not charge anyone to send bitcoin, only when you purchase it or sell it.  (the buy and sell transfers i think cover all the fees for the onchain transactions)

Great to know that you are hearing our feedback and hope you will manage to build a great project. Cheers!

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This is quite interesting, but there is already a similar service called CryptoGamblersPub, have you heard of that?

If yes, then how exactly are you planning on differentiating yourself from their services?

Also, it'll be very hard to anyone not playing with dust to use this service. The risks involved in getting an arbitrary third party handling your coins is simply too immense for most people to take on for BTC amounts of more than 0.01 BTC.
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March 09, 2021, 08:48:53 PM
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Well, it quite a unique exchange to able to convert bits to bitcoin, but can you explain why this service is better than we use a gambling site. As far as I know, Bustabit withdrawal from your bits and it will arrive in your wallet is bitcoin and I don't have any idea though if how much the fee. However, reality comes to end, since you are a newbie introducing your website, you need to run it here as a business to prove that you are a legitimate exchange and gambling site as well. I hope you will respond to your thread as a publicly known to others the same question as to them.









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March 09, 2021, 09:30:29 PM
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I have a wallet that allows me to send bitcoin at no fee to me but still pays a high enough fee to get the miners to include it.
Can you share how this works? Who's paying the transaction fees?
Im also wondering the same thing on who the hell would really be paying up the fees if both OP and the user wouldn't really be wasting up too much money with transaction

with still having an option to set out higher fees? I don't see any service nor wallet to have able to bypass out the network unless if you do pay up big fees then
that would be only the best thing you can do to make fast confirmation.

Just like on what Loyce been suggesting, it would be ideal or much preferred on how things been done.

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Well, it quite a unique exchange to able to convert bits to bitcoin, but can you explain why this service is better than we use a gambling site. As far as I know, Bustabit withdrawal from your bits and it will arrive in your wallet is bitcoin and I don't have any idea though if how much the fee. However, reality comes to end, since you are a newbie introducing your website, you need to run it here as a business to prove that you are a legitimate exchange and gambling site as well. I hope you will respond to your thread as a publicly known to others the same question as to them.

It seems that you do not even understand what is bits what is mbtc and etc. Bits, satoshi, bitcoin, mbtc, ubtc are just denomination of bitcoin itself. If you are confused, here is a simple example: 1bits = 100satoshi = 0.000001btc = 0.0001mbtc = 1ubtc. There is no converting process in this case obviously.
The main idea of this project is to give you an alternative way to cash your bitcoin out from the supported casino with lower fee than what is charged on the casino. The big question for this project is about the claim that he use a bitcoin wallet that does not charge transaction fee. Does such wallet exist? I have never heard about it before, if such wallet does exist then I believe many bitcoin users will use the wallet (in case the wallet is reputable).

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March 10, 2021, 09:56:44 PM
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Just as a recommendation, if you provide some evidence either in image or video for many to verify the credibility it would be good, it is difficult to believe something like that, however it is very possible, if you try to lower the rates I think many could try. Also what you say is very intriguing, avoiding fee in that way is intriguing.

Yes, an example of the process (with images, if he can't make a video) is a good one to present how this system works. Because from his website, you don't know how this service works. How can a players use this platform if he doesn't know how to use this third party exchange. Maybe add an FAQ also to know more about this platform.
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How this site actually works? The site isnt even functioning well and doesnt really even showing or any FAQ explaining on how this service works.

When it comes to fees then everyone seems interest specially on lowering it out.

It's an exchange to gambling sites that are listed on his thread, it's a newly created site and your chances to lose your money here is very high, because we don't know who we are dealing with and he just comes out with a site and an offer, the offer is good but reputation and feedbacks plays a major factor when it comes to this kind of offer.


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March 10, 2021, 10:27:11 PM
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There's no way to avoid the fee unless if the site covered the fee for their customer that has a transaction and wants to avoid the fee.

I don't understand even how it works, but the site needs legitimate proof before offering this service, it will I guess risk us to trust without any explanation of how it works. And yes, suggestion above was right, just show the proof of this even on video on how this technical stuff going on.

It's very interesting when someone talking about the ridiculous fees of bitcoin which is totally high.

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The way I understand it, the idea is to reduce the fees for gamblers, right? That's useful because if a person has some BTC on one website, but wants to transfer it to another website, it would mean paying a lot in fees (especially Bitcoin transaction fees which are quite costly now). But as some others, I don't understand how the op's service allows saving money during this process because somebody does have to pay the fees... It would be helpful if op explained how this is technically even possible, and also whether the casinos are okay with this practice.

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March 11, 2021, 08:14:12 PM
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Yes, improve your website and I think it's a good idea if you put up some visual materials on how the process works. If your service really works then that's easy for the gamblers who are into those supported sites of your service.
With the fees that are not that cheap today if it's converted to USD seem to be high and paying only with those amounts for the fee that you've listed seems to be unbelievable.

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Hi, i am offering a service to exchange bits between a few trusted sites I have dealt with and believe are reputable.

Also, with how high bitcoin transaction fees are, I have a wallet that allows me to send bitcoin at no fee to me but still pays a high enough fee to get the miners to include it.

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