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March 21, 2021, 06:53:00 AM
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You can trade crypto futures and even use leverage so it is very possible nowadays. I think trading capital ultimately depends on the trader and how much they are willing to lose per trade.

With futures trading you can trade with more capital which you have but the future trading is also risky and it can make your portfolio to zero if the trade gone wrong.
Better to do spot trading with low capital and slowly grow your trading portfolio.
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March 21, 2021, 07:18:56 AM
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Investing huge capital is not issue, issue is to effectively utilize that capital and earn profit. If you are newbie and don't know much about trading then don't jump straight away with huge capital just invest as much you can afford to lose.
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March 21, 2021, 07:21:22 AM
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The minimum capital that is required to trade effectively and compound profit is 50$; anything below that means that you are literally wasting your own calls, signals; because without a good capital; the only way to make money is if you are making over 100% profit which is not sustainable. Your profit is someone else trade capital; so i implore us to twice your trading capital.

And once again, if you are to scared to loose money; then don't trade, it is not for you
For a beginner, low amount of capital is okay because they don't have experience and enough knowledge on trading. With small amount, they will be able to learn trading properly. But for a professional person, $50 is not a good amount of money for trading.
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March 22, 2021, 06:04:52 AM
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It goes in both ways, either you trade with small capital or with big capital it still ball down to the same thing. to accumulate huge profits trading with big capital is at advantage  but in the time of lose small capital will not hot you much. What i do is to trade in percentage I don't put all my capital into one trade I reserve some incase my trade ends in an unexpected direction I can easily have fund to start over again.
Not putting all your money in trading is a good idea, that should be something everyone does and will always be that much valuable. Obviously speaking we are not talking about the investments, I do support putting all your savings 100% into crypto, I am talking about trading and per trade, that is something different.

The point here is that if you only have 50 bucks, what are you going to do, not like you could put that aside and just trade with small portion of it, the whole thing is small itself, which means you have to trade the whole of it, and you will not be happy about it. Hell even the best possible 10x is still just 500 bucks and not a good enough capital but let's assume it is, you just took the whole bull run and still didn't do much. That is why if you do not have a proper capital you should not start trading and hope for much, first you should "earn" decent capital.

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March 22, 2021, 06:58:31 AM
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Good thing that there is now what we call futures or leverage trading. It is a high risk high reward type of trading but if you are really good at predicting the price and you have proper risk management, you can earn big from this. I know someone who started with a 100$ capital but everytime he trades, he only puts 1-5$ per position. With this bull market he managed to earn a good amount of money. Trading is not only a game of capital because even if you have tons of it but you are greedy then you will slowly lose it.
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March 22, 2021, 01:02:40 PM
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I thought you only invest at a certain amount you can afford to lose. I have traded before with just a small amount of fiat money, it was less than $50 at that time and I did gain more than what I had expected 4 years ago. Up until now, I still do not that much because I wouldn’t want to risk my cash money in case I need them for emergencies.
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March 22, 2021, 01:58:26 PM
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I thought you only invest at a certain amount you can afford to lose. I have traded before with just a small amount of fiat money, it was less than $50 at that time and I did gain more than what I had expected 4 years ago. Up until now, I still do not that much because I wouldn’t want to risk my cash money in case I need them for emergencies.
if we take into account the period of the end of 2020 and the beginning of 2021, then thanks to $ 50, it was possible to earn very good money through investments for a long period. Trading even with day trading, with a starting capital of $ 50, is very difficult to earn something. But some projects showed more than 1000 percent growth in several months and, accordingly, you can calculate what kind of profit you get.

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March 22, 2021, 05:03:37 PM
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if we take into account the period of the end of 2020 and the beginning of 2021, then thanks to $ 50, it was possible to earn very good money through investments for a long period. Trading even with day trading, with a starting capital of $ 50, is very difficult to earn something. But some projects showed more than 1000 percent growth in several months and, accordingly, you can calculate what kind of profit you get.
It would still be quite difficult to turn 50 dollars into 5000 dollars, was it technically possible? Sure, if you got in at every bottom and got out at every peak and kept doing that daily few times every single day for few months you would make a lot of money. However, the reality is that we do not believe that we can pick the bottom and the peak every single day for months right?

I mean I do not believe that could happen. This is why I think it is obvious that we will probably not make that kind of money, 50 bucks can be turned into 500 dollars if we are lucky, and that is in many months, that is the only thing we should be hoping for, and in the next bull run (years later, whenever we get another 10x bull run like this year) we could turn that into 5000 dollars, it won't be on this bull run because finding 10x is already near impossible, finding it twice is just impossible.

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March 22, 2021, 07:03:26 PM
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For a trader 50$ start-up capital is a very small amount. It will take a lot of time for him to make a good profit from this money, so it’s better to invest more. When I just started trading my start-up capital was 2000$ and it took me for more than half a year of day by day trading to managed to double them. That is how unskillful newbie traders usually trade. In fact, more unlucky newbie traders lose everything.



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March 23, 2021, 05:39:15 PM
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The minimum capital that is required to trade effectively and compound profit is 50$; anything below that means that you are literally wasting your own calls, signals; because without a good capital; the only way to make money is if you are making over 100% profit which is not sustainable. Your profit is someone else trade capital; so i implore us to twice your trading capital.

And once again, if you are to scared to loose money; then don't trade, it is not for you

how you define that $50 as the minimum capital that is required for trading? also, how's your trading proportion with that money?
do you use that $50 for trading in 1 coin/token only?
let's use binance as the benchmark for the exchange that we will use.
$50 means we can trade 5x 10usd.
1x initial trade + 4x accumulation during the dip.

but, if you use contract trading, even $10 is enough to double your money instantly.
(ofc it can be zero instantly too  Grin)
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March 24, 2021, 05:50:23 PM
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You can trade crypto futures and even use leverage so it is very possible nowadays. I think trading capital ultimately depends on the trader and how much they are willing to lose per trade.

With futures trading you can trade with more capital which you have but the future trading is also risky and it can make your portfolio to zero if the trade gone wrong.
Better to do spot trading with low capital and slowly grow your trading portfolio.
I do leverage trading x10 with 50$ which become 550$ in total. I try to be around 10$ a day in profit. I don't have much money but with this amount I'm comfortable to play. Somedays I win somedays I lose but at the end all is learning to be better in the future.
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March 24, 2021, 08:56:04 PM
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Making a benefit will likewise rely upon each dealer, and in the event that they can see the benefit, they need to take benefit before the risk is no more. So it is critical to chip away at expanding your exchanging abilities prior to exchanging with more capital. I have seen numerous brokers who need more exchanging abilities to do well in any event, with regards to exchanging with their large capital. So I think exchanging abilities are a higher priority than capital.


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March 24, 2021, 10:54:48 PM
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Capital, in my opinion, is the basic thing that we can use for trading. And we must also ensure that we can afford to lose the capital. Never use the money that is not free or loan as the capital for trading.
We know that trading has high risks of losing but also has a great chance of getting profits. However, never only pay attention to the profits. ABout capital itself, it is better to differentiate the capitals into several coins. Of course, it will depend on what we are going to do, for trading, short investment, or long term investment.


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March 24, 2021, 11:30:53 PM
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I do leverage trading x10 with 50$ which become 550$ in total. I try to be around 10$ a day in profit. I don't have much money but with this amount I'm comfortable to play. Somedays I win somedays I lose but at the end all is learning to be better in the future.
Losing and winning is common, and if we are not comfortable with the outcomes of our trades, then we have to decide about leaving or continuing. Trading is not the place for emotional people, nor it is for the weak hands, and also we don't force ourselves if we are not fully interested in it because this will only give us huge losses.

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can I bet with you, that a lot of capital without knowledge is tantamount to lose!
why doesn't everyone trade? because it is not easy, and many billionaires lose because of wrong steps in choosing an investment. experience - capital - and confidence is a great composition.



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March 25, 2021, 10:26:29 AM
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The minimum capital that is required to trade effectively and compound profit is 50$; anything below that means that you are literally wasting your own calls, signals; because without a good capital; the only way to make money is if you are making over 100% profit which is not sustainable. Your profit is someone else trade capital; so i implore us to twice your trading capital.

That depends. To be honest, I first started with a capital of $10 (yes just a measly $10 because I'm poor af). Had a good call here and there while making losses but in the end, made that $10 into $100 and so on. I think it doesn't matter how much capital you have as long as you are willing to invest what you can afford to lose. It's not healthy to invest more if you're psychologically not stable in your financial position.
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March 25, 2021, 10:39:20 PM
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I would have agreed with you but then again I remembered someone can have that $50 and will still not be able to compound any profit out of it, trading is never a game of capital, cuz it depends on a trader's ability to make profit, you can't say people starting with $10-$40 are wasting their time, cuz with time of they keep winning trades they can make a fortune out of nothing, lastly trading is not for the faint of heart, anyone whose not in a stable mind shouldn't trade at all.

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March 26, 2021, 02:54:37 AM
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if you have good skills in trading and your capital in trading is low it is very hard to gain higher profit. lower capital means lower profit and such wasting time that you trade 24hours and gaining small amount , it is an advantage to those traders that have high capital they earn very well if they know and good trader.

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March 26, 2021, 03:43:10 AM
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I think trading capital ultimately depends on the trader and how much they are willing to lose per trade. There are traders who can take a $10 or $20 trading accounts to the highs of $5000 - $10000. Anybody can do it if they know what they're doing. It's very much possible these days since you can trade crypto futures and even use leverages. Your patry $20 capital would be $200 when on a 10x leverage account.

Anyway, I'm not here to talk about leverage trading. The point I'm trying to drive home is that any trading capital should be fine as far as the trader is comfortable with it and knows what they're doing. But one thing is clear those, the more the capital, the more you're likely to profit per trade if it goes well - for instance, gaining 500% on an $10 account doesn't seem to be worth it considering you only get $40 as profit. Compare that with a $500 - $5000 trading account.

I am very much agreed to your explanation Sir, there is really no problem with the capital whether it is small or big.
The really thing important is that the individual traders knows what they are doing inside the trading platform were in the end
they could get a nice profit of course. In fact, in my experienced I started with a small capital amounting 20$ then within a week I can make it turn into 50$ - 100$ or more something like that even up to the present.

When a person decides to start a traditional business, the ROI he calculates is 3 years or so, in trading it should also be seen as a business, only it does not take 3 years to make a profit.

The mistake that many make is that sometimes they enter with a large capital and risk everything, that is not the correct way to want to make money, as they say, $ 10-20 can lead to much more in a strategy, which should be clear to the trader is that you cannot become a millionaire quickly. So clearly if you know how to trade and you know how to use leverage you can do it, but the more capital you risk and win the profits will be greater than starting with $ 10 or $ 20.

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March 26, 2021, 04:03:34 AM
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if you have good skills in trading and your capital in trading is low it is very hard to gain higher profit. lower capital means lower profit and such wasting time that you trade 24hours and gaining small amount , it is an advantage to those traders that have high capital they earn very well if they know and good trader.

Logically right, if you have low capital it takes time especially if you are very concern with your trading activities. If you are always in a much safer side, the grow of your investment will take time.

Unlike with having good amount of investment to use, you are capable of moving your money from each assets and have a wider scope to find the right profitable assets and the amount of earnings is very decent.

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