Stainless steel Bitcoin Recovery Seed Plate

[willi9974]

Hasn't been tested there yet, but it's a good idea and can be done.
In my opinion, however, the Seed Plate should do very well here, because stainless steel in the thickness should be very resistant.

If nothing else, sending it to Lopp for testing would certainly bring more attention to your stainless steel plate, and who knows maybe it gets rated high on the table.
He was testing all of them for corrosion, crush test, heat, price and gives them overall rating.
Not all stainless steel are equal, and more thickness is better for sure

PS
Let us know if you decide to send him plate for testing, I would love to read review.

The test plate is done and on the road
I am curious to see how the test performs and i hope i will not on the laste place 

[m2017]

My stainless steel plate is engraved with my fiber laser.

Thanks for your clarification.

What are the weaknesses when using this method of applying text (if they exist at all)? Over time, the information will not be erased and it will not turn out that seed-phrase can't be read (this is where a stencil with a table template with rows of letters and numbers would come in handy)?

Waiting for answers from Lopp? 

Hammer and marker can buy at any hardware store (or look in your toolbox). I don't think that a piece of this inox plate will also be difficult to find.

I find willi9974 set more a collectible set than something I'd mess with. I may have odd taste, but the plate with the mount, the HOLD Hammer and marker seem to ask to be shown, not hidden away.

Thanks for your clarification too.

If look from the position of the collectible set, then there are no questions. I think this set is great as a gift for people who get the joke with "hodl hammer".

[aoluain]

^
I cant see any weaknesses of the letters and engraving wearing off, once you
stamp your plate with the punch you are supposed to hide it away until it is needed
to recover your seed, its not supposed to be propped up on full display for everyone
to see.

As regards the idea that it is more of a "collectable" set, yea that may come across
as a possibility but the key item is the plate, which can be bought on its own, or buy
2 plates, a hammer and punch, use one plate and display the second if you like it as
a collectable.

@willi9974 - an added benefit which you could consider is to drill a hole in the 4 (or 2)
corners so that the plate can be screwed to something else. The beauty of the flat
plate is it can be attached to something inaccessible and be inconspicuous .

[dkbit98]

The test plate is done and on the road
I am curious to see how the test performs and i hope i will not on the laste place 

Good luck with testing and thanks for posting notification here!
I am sure your plate won't be placed last, there are some terrible metal plates tested by Lopp, they partially used aluminum or bad systems with multiple parts.
Stuff like this fall apart under stress and pressure, and anything that is solid like your plate, that is made from stainless steel showed much better results.
I wrote recently there are two types of stainless steel good for backup, that is 304 (better melting points) and 316 with better corrosion properties and can survive even in salt water.
 

[AnySniper]

Amazing, what about personalization?

[willi9974]

Amazing, what about personalization?

Hi AnySniper,

personalization is no problem, you can use the last line to laser some things on it.
Please see the picture, the last line is yours, you can change it as you want.

best regards
Willi

[PawGo]

Someone just created a similar topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394608.0

It seems to be more expensive (at least in case of shipping/import to Europe), but still interesting.
Your hodl hammer looks like must-have item

[decodx]

Someone just created a similar topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394608.0

It seems to be more expensive (at least in case of shipping/import to Europe), but still interesting.
Your hodl hammer looks like must-have item

I think the Coinplate looks more professional and probably more valuable as a collector's item, but I think willi9974's seed plate is more practical and perhaps more durable. If I had to choose, I would choose this one for my personal use.

[willi9974]

Someone just created a similar topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394608.0

It seems to be more expensive (at least in case of shipping/import to Europe), but still interesting.
Your hodl hammer looks like must-have item

I think the Coinplate looks more professional and probably more valuable as a collector's item, but I think willi9974's seed plate is more practical and perhaps more durable. If I had to choose, I would choose this one for my personal use.

thanks for the feedback and yes my plates looks like more durable.
I have send a test plate to the known seed storage tester and hope we see the test soon --> https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/

[decodx]

I have send a test plate to the known seed storage tester and hope we see the test soon --> https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/

That's a good decision, and I hope we'll see that review soon. This will be a good thing for the project.
Good luck!

[Danydee]

To all members who want to make their recovery on strong metal,
You don't need all this !

Gests are welcome too  

You can just purshase any of "strong metal" plates and write your seed in the Morse code using two different sizes of drills!   (piercing it)

Writing the word "Metal" for example would looks like this:

*  *  *  *  *
*        *  *
            *
            *

edit: adding addy for tips!  

Code:

3LeUzQSmyaDF5wVHep1uiWdsFAXmYrkTrB

[MoparMiningLLC]

Hammer and marker can buy at any hardware store (or look in your toolbox). I don't think that a piece of this inox plate will also be difficult to find.

I find willi9974 set more a collectible set than something I'd mess with. I may have odd taste, but the plate with the mount, the HOLD Hammer and marker seem to ask to be shown, not hidden away.

If I would ever have good reason to store the seed on steel, I'd probably go for the washers, really. Your setup looks complicated. And complicated usually asks for troubles (in 10 years, not now).

could use it to put a private key to an address you dont fund then then it could be displayed. just never use that one lol

[NeuroticFish]

Hammer and marker can buy at any hardware store (or look in your toolbox). I don't think that a piece of this inox plate will also be difficult to find.

I find willi9974 set more a collectible set than something I'd mess with. I may have odd taste, but the plate with the mount, the HOLD Hammer and marker seem to ask to be shown, not hidden away.

If I would ever have good reason to store the seed on steel, I'd probably go for the washers, really. Your setup looks complicated. And complicated usually asks for troubles (in 10 years, not now).

could use it to put a private key to an address you dont fund then then it could be displayed. just never use that one lol

Indeed, also an option! Just then we switch from realm of bitcoin collectibles to... maybe (modern) art!  

[willi9974]

christmas special offer from now up to 24.12.2022

1x Additional text around the seed field as individualization for free and save $5

A nice christmas gift for BTC fans and with a individualization like Name or text or a short sentence

More details on the first posting...

[philipma1957]

christmas special offer from now up to 24.12.2022

1x Additional text around the seed field as individualization for free and save $5

A nice christmas gift for BTC fans and with a individualization like Name or text or a short sentence

More details on the first posting...

did you ever get the test results for durability

[willi9974]

Hi philipma1957,

not yet. i wrote mails to him, but it is a time consuming test, but have not seen a update on the webpage.
so i waiting also on a feedback, and if i have a feedback i will post it here.

But thanks for the reminder, will ask for an update....


yea, the test is done --> 4x A, best letters 

https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/reviews/willi-recovery-seed-plate/



Best regards
Willi

[Danydee]

Hi philipma1957,

not yet. i wrote mails to him, but it is a time consuming test, but have not seen a update on the webpage.
so i waiting also on a feedback, and if i have a feedback i will post it here.

But thanks for the reminder, will ask for an update....


yea, the test is done --> 4x A, best letters  

https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/reviews/willi-recovery-seed-plate/



Best regards
Willi

  You didn't put them on acid !    

[NeuroticFish]

  You didn't put them on acid !    

It was Lopp who has done the test, not Willi.
And it was put into acid, actually. As you can see, one of the points was the corrosion test. And, if you look up for the methodology, the corrosion test means keeping the plate in acid for 12 hours:

Corrosion
The device is submerged in a bucket of 16% muriatic acid and left for 12 hours or until bubbling ceases. Are strong acids a threat vector you should be worried about? Probably not, but these tests are extreme in order to see which devices stand out from the pack!

[m2017]

  You didn't put them on acid !    

It was Lopp who has done the test, not Willi.
And it was put into acid, actually. As you can see, one of the points was the corrosion test. And, if you look up for the methodology, the corrosion test means keeping the plate in acid for 12 hours:

Corrosion
The device is submerged in a bucket of 16% muriatic acid and left for 12 hours or until bubbling ceases. Are strong acids a threat vector you should be worried about? Probably not, but these tests are extreme in order to see which devices stand out from the pack!

The more different tests are carried out with the Recovery Seed Plate, the more complete information about the capabilities of this storage medium can be obtained, which allows taking into account the resistance to external influences during storage of this plate. Of course, this is good, but the acid test seems exotic to me, because acid is extremely rare in domestic conditions, not to mention that somehow it gets on the seed plate. Hypothetically, such a possibility exists, but with a very small chance. A piece of metal is still a piece of metal (of course, stainless steel) and it takes a lot of time to destroy the text from the surface. So, don't worry about the acid test.

[dkbit98]

yea, the test is done --> 4x A, best letters 

https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/reviews/willi-recovery-seed-plate/

Very nice results, and Jameson Lopp even wrote that your seed plate can be purchased via bitcointalk forum
It is certainly one of the cheaper metal seed plates tested on his website and now with this discount it's even cheaper.
This would be the best time for anyone who wanted to buy this plate.