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March 30, 2021, 11:56:31 PM
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Congestion is the main problem in the Philippines, with millions of internet users but only few towers are created, so it's expected that the connection will slowed down especially during peak hours, best way to avoid that is to get a wire ISP, a little expensive but at least you don't worry anymore.

It's not with the congestion but a poor upgrade of towers and system networks here. Some towers are also being shared by other networks. Other countries don't have that great number of towers but their network system is good.

A few towers but built in a powerful network system can accommodate millions of internet users with a fast internet speed.

There are also no peak hours now and heavy usage is now seen 24/7. If PH ISPs can work on upgrading their cell sites, signals will be improved.

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March 31, 2021, 01:19:04 AM
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Congestion is the main problem in the Philippines, with millions of internet users but only few towers are created, so it's expected that the connection will slowed down especially during peak hours, best way to avoid that is to get a wire ISP, a little expensive but at least you don't worry anymore.

It's not with the congestion but a poor upgrade of towers and system networks here. Some towers are also being shared by other networks. Other countries don't have that great number of towers but their network system is good.

A few towers but built in a powerful network system can accommodate millions of internet users with a fast internet speed.

There are also no peak hours now and heavy usage is now seen 24/7. If PH ISPs can work on upgrading their cell sites, signals will be improved.

It's true to make internet connection smooth and fast, don't need too many towers, but what must be improved is the network system. I am not
a citizen of the Philippines, so I don't know the quality of the network system there. But if the signal you get is weak and often slows down
the internet connection speed, it means that there is indeed a problem with the quality of the network system and it really needs to be upgraded.
In my country I have the same problem, the network system quality is poor and the connection will suddenly slow down for several hours.
And this is quite annoying when we play gambling or online games if the internet connection is slow, indeed the only way to use an ISP that
already supports fiber optic cable. Because usually waiting for ISP to upgrade the network system will take a long time.

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March 31, 2021, 02:50:54 AM
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I still remember the days in which I needed to go to the library in order to find the information I was looking for and that is not the case anymore,
Library these day are still important, in my country the only library had fully the best internet connection, it's free, everyone can access the internet, but of course, must have a library member. I still use it for downloading large files with need a high-speed connection, while waiting for it completely, I am playing online games or sometimes claiming a free bitcoin faucet and of course, multiply it  Grin.

I did not recommend in the library, that place that focusing read the book and searching for knowledege. don't follow me  Grin

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March 31, 2021, 09:56:21 AM
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I just saw this issue last week in an poker tournament final table. The prize pool for the first was almost 2 million USD and only 3 people left when one of them had a disconnect. The prize between the first and third was almost 1 million USD and yet they didn't pause the game. The game was live streamed and it was very wierd to see that a player had only 30 seconds to reconnect and was put on time out with such large sums involved. It only was a few rounds until he came back, but still the blinds are so high at this stage and seeing the other players just raise every hand to steal blinds felt very distributing.
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March 31, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
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Yes its very common in my country internet connection loss and it happened to me often i missed to place a gamble on games because of the sudden connection shutdown and i would've  won many of them if i could place those bets.
I think most of us has this issue as we are living in places that has poor connection specially Asian People .
I personally didn't experience loss just because of bad internet connection. Anyways I tend to secure my chance. I mean using some public internet (like school library) is very dangerous. You should better be prepared with mobile connection over hotspot on your device. Or just if it is too risky don't even try to gamble at all.
So you are living in Place where the connection really gives you favor.

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March 31, 2021, 11:11:23 AM
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It definitely depends on the game, I can only really picture this being an issue with things like poker tables - that require decisions in a relatively quick manner. For somebody who plays the game on a regular basis and puts a lot of hours into it, you'd definitely want to make sure that your connection was reliable. Theoretically it could benefit you over a long time scale to have an extremely reliable connection compared to others, but it would probably contribute very little to your winnings. People who "timeout" due to connectivity issues are immediately sat out of the game after the first failed hand and are unlikely to get back in again if they lost big amounts of money to this problem. You could argue the odds of timeouts increases a lot with more cellphone based app gaming, because a wired line will be much more reliable.

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April 01, 2021, 01:40:05 AM
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Have you guys experienced any loss/win out of the issue with internet connectivity. I've mentioned about wins/losses, but mostly people get affected negatively when there is connectivity issues. I personally believe that the internet connection is also a reason with our gambling wins. Here it is about casino games and not sports betting.

Most of the time I gamble using the mobile device. The connectivity speed varies between locations and I've encountered with the rolls taking more time as well as the the rollers moving within the bar with sudden visibility. When I check the provably fair functioning, it does right. But, my mind has a thinking our loss is due to the internet connection.

Does any of you have similar experience or thinking.
I had an experience but not totally like it. I mostly used to play esports gambling and that's why I deposited my funds so that I can participate. After a while, the connection of internet getting lost in my area due to weather issues. It takes 2 days to recover because I live in a village which is a far from city. That's why, I missed which I targeted to participate.

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April 01, 2021, 03:41:01 AM
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It definitely depends on the game, I can only really picture this being an issue with things like poker tables - that require decisions in a relatively quick manner. For somebody who plays the game on a regular basis and puts a lot of hours into it, you'd definitely want to make sure that your connection was reliable. Theoretically it could benefit you over a long time scale to have an extremely reliable connection compared to others, but it would probably contribute very little to your winnings. People who "timeout" due to connectivity issues are immediately sat out of the game after the first failed hand and are unlikely to get back in again if they lost big amounts of money to this problem. You could argue the odds of timeouts increases a lot with more cellphone based app gaming, because a wired line will be much more reliable.

Yes internet connectivity will only affect your gambling result for a specific type of game only. Games where you need to do something/click button in the process of the game such as poker where we need to decide something in the process. Other games can be crash game (manual play only), bad internet connectivity may make players a bit late to click cash out or even worst makes players unable to do it because the browser crashed. It may happen in sports betting as well especially in live betting and where there is cash out option.

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April 01, 2021, 03:54:53 AM
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Congestion is the main problem in the Philippines, with millions of internet users but only few towers are created, so it's expected that the connection will slowed down especially during peak hours, best way to avoid that is to get a wire ISP, a little expensive but at least you don't worry anymore.

It's not with the congestion but a poor upgrade of towers and system networks here. Some towers are also being shared by other networks. Other countries don't have that great number of towers but their network system is good.

A few towers but built in a powerful network system can accommodate millions of internet users with a fast internet speed.

There are also no peak hours now and heavy usage is now seen 24/7. If PH ISPs can work on upgrading their cell sites, signals will be improved.

I disagree about this.

They have enough towers but they are suppressing the right amount of data they should to a client to share it with other clients, it's like a single line of 5MBps plan with 5 clients (home) with 5 people in each home let's say that, that's why it's so freaking slow. The whole internet thing in the Philippines is a joke, it's all about business and they doesn't even care if you're getting bad internet despite of the amount you pay monthly just to have "unlimited" internet connection.

So what they should upgrade is their behavior towards their customers and act right, give right, so it's a win win for both parties.
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April 01, 2021, 04:02:23 AM
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I'm not sure what internet connection can affect the bet result. I don't think a bad internet connection will affect sports betting, but it might impact luck based bet like dice and slot and some other game. However I am not sure how an internet connection might affect a win on a site that is proving to be fair.

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April 01, 2021, 09:58:23 AM
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but it might impact luck based bet like dice and slot and some other game.

That's right, I suffered a loss because of my slow internet when playing Crash and Roulette.

Crash: When I have clicked the cashout button, the gambling platform is always slow to respond to my request, and in the end before my cashout request in the Crash game is completed, I crash first.

Roulette: When I had the feeling that a color I thought would appear, but the gambling platform was slow to respond to my color requests, so I lost my chance.

Indeed, everything related to risk must be accompanied by all the conveniences that we must have.

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April 01, 2021, 11:33:48 AM
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I think this issue could only be very annoying for poker. But as somebody already mentioned before, if you will have a backup connection like a hotspot, then you are not a risk at tall.
buy a sim card and use a phone as hotspot/modem to make sure you have always a connection.
Well it is more annoying in Crash games lol , Imagine you are climbing High and suddenly the internet got lost ? and you did not put a Auto bet?  Grin
I'm not sure what internet connection can affect the bet result. I don't think a bad internet connection will affect sports betting, but it might impact luck based bet like dice and slot and some other game. However I am not sure how an internet connection might affect a win on a site that is proving to be fair.
Sportsbetting might not affect by internet losing because the game will continue even without us Watching but of course the momentum will change most specially in the end game.

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April 01, 2021, 11:51:07 AM
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I'm not sure what internet connection can affect the bet result. I don't think a bad internet connection will affect sports betting, but it might impact luck based bet like dice and slot and some other game. However I am not sure how an internet connection might affect a win on a site that is proving to be fair.
Sportsbetting might not affect by internet losing because the game will continue even without us Watching but of course the momentum will change most specially in the end game.

If you are familiar with live betting, then it may affect you while doing live betting as it may affect the odds.
Odds may change significantly when you lost your connection and it makes you fail to bet on the expected odds.
I cant even understand how it might affect luck based game such as dice and slot, can you please explain about it @ShowOff?

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I dont see that the internet conenction will become a way of giving a wrong output because this is already programmable with different output even though you got disconnected still the output will given the user the only delay is the feedback to the user and not the output, they can check it out to their previous bet or transaction if they win or not. I think they recommend having good internet connectivity is the smoothness of the gameplay there is no disturbance, well there are people who possibly blame the internet connection because if this not makes a connection timeout they think they possibly win the game.

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April 01, 2021, 04:57:00 PM
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I think this issue could only be very annoying for poker. But as somebody already mentioned before, if you will have a backup connection like a hotspot, then you are not a risk at tall.
buy a sim card and use a phone as hotspot/modem to make sure you have always a connection.
Well it is more annoying in Crash games lol , Imagine you are climbing High and suddenly the internet got lost ? and you did not put a Auto bet?  Grin
Hahaha I feel that too because I have that bad experience before. I guess that I am seeing the profit come to me, but after I click CashOut, the rocket still climbing and not stop, but suddenly, the result is loss. Geez, at that time, I only think about how it can be? But I do not think too much except thinking that is not my luck. That is the worst moment in the gambling game that can happen to anyone, making them mad or sad because they are losing their money.

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April 01, 2021, 05:07:30 PM
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If it is a game in which we can set the bet automatically, it may not give a big influence when the internet connection lost.
however, many gambling or bettings are different. Internet connection may really give certain influence to the players moreover when they re going to wager or putting the bet.
We may also not know how to secure the site and how honest they are. I do agree with @panjul07, the odds may know our connection lost and how fi they make some changes?
And when we are betting something or laying games that really depend on an internet connection, when it is lost, we will exactly lose.

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April 01, 2021, 06:15:02 PM
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I don't really blame the internet when I lose in a gamble since the result is based on my decision and what I will do when it's my turn (poker). Even if I can reconnect in the game the result would be the same. I may have some bad experience with the connectivity but at least I tried my best to win but sadly I lose so there's nothing I can do after that but to play next round.
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I don't really blame the internet when I lose in a gamble since the result is based on my decision and what I will do when it's my turn (poker). Even if I can reconnect in the game the result would be the same. I may have some bad experience with the connectivity but at least I tried my best to win but sadly I lose so there's nothing I can do after that but to play next round.
This is what we must be aware of, because the internet connection will also have an effect if the weather is bad and this at least we have realized from the start. That is, when the weather can be expected to get worse but at the same time we want to gamble, then we shouldn't bet large amounts and at least bet only low amounts just in case the internet connection turns bad. If you already have this awareness from the start then the defeat we experience when the connection goes bad is not a painful defeat because we only bet a small amount.

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April 02, 2021, 05:38:00 AM
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This is what we must be aware of, because the internet connection will also have an effect if the weather is bad and this at least we have realized from the start. That is, when the weather can be expected to get worse but at the same time we want to gamble, then we shouldn't bet large amounts and at least bet only low amounts just in case the internet connection turns bad. If you already have this awareness from the start then the defeat we experience when the connection goes bad is not a painful defeat because we only bet a small amount.
I am fully aware that if I did not bet small amount I may lose it all so instead I bet small amounts first before I  increase the amount I want to bet rather not knowing the result if the internet connection is slow or bad at the moment. I have been doing it since I started gambling so I would have longer time to gamble rather than betting it all in higher amount which will only take a few bets.
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April 02, 2021, 05:50:50 AM
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I don't really blame the internet when I lose in a gamble since the result is based on my decision and what I will do when it's my turn (poker). Even if I can reconnect in the game the result would be the same. I may have some bad experience with the connectivity but at least I tried my best to win but sadly I lose so there's nothing I can do after that but to play next round.
Actually no one is Blaming the internet but of course it is Hard and Hurting that you lost funds just because of Poor internet when you are paying regularly for their service.
So blaming this is normal unless you are connected in illegal way then you must not blame the internet.
We have all experience of this event when our gambling activities ruined because of connectivity .

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