[BOXING POLL ADDED] FURY vs JOSHUA: A Two Fight Deal Has Already Been Signed !!

[Lanatsa]

^^ Exactly, I don't see how Floyd will be helpful to Joshua in any matter.

Can he teach old dogs new tricks? Mayweather's style is very different from Joshua, what advise would he give? Just run around and play defence? It won't work as Fury is a very technical fighter himself. If Mayweather is a heavyweight then maybe he can give some tips, but he is in on the lower division, very different style of fighting.

Maybe Joshua thought that his current strategy would not work against Fury, that's why he look to improve or change it with Mayweather's style. We never know but for sure if they'll get Mayweather to train him, we will see a big changes on how Joshua will fight in the ring and we don't know if it would work or not until we see it.

Then improved his strategy, talk to the trainers and I'm sure his trainers are more well experience in creating a perfect plan to defeat Fury instead of getting Floyd and train with him and adopt his style because it really doesn't work specially for Joshua's size.

And it might Joshua worst if he adopts Floyd's style, improvement shows in your career, not just in just one fight.

We don't know what's in their mind but let's hope they will not make a stupid decision as this is the biggest fight of Joshua although a rematch is already part of the contract, but winning the first fight is a big lead so no pressure in the rematch or if he win in 1st, loss in 2nd, at least we will see a trilogy.

This is actually my first time on seeing a contract that already talks about having 2 mandated fights no matter whats the outcome of the first fight where rematch is a guarantee

because among all of the boxing fights I have seen, rematch is still questionable or not know on when to happen but this one had already a fixed one which is unusual.

Winning the first fight doesn't only give out confidence but also this do add up more popularity on whose gonna pull off that win on first clash. 

[7788bitcoin]

Look at it in football terms, just because someone has been a great player for a big club like Manchester City, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Juventus or Manchester United it does not all those players will go on to become great managers likewise just because Mayweather is without doubt one of the greatest boxers of all time it does not mean he will be a great manager. I am unsure as to what input he would bring to either of the two fighters.

When Mayweather was asked to name the winner he refused saying it was too difficult because it would be a close fight but he knows he cannot say one name over the other because he will alienate himself with the other.

In football terms what you are saying is true that not every player cannot be a good coach or a manager and you need to have specific skills to be that in football but when it comes to Floyd Mayweather he is running a gym for a long time and he is training fighters along with Floyd Mayweather Sr and Roger Mayweather who recently passed away. So it is nothing that they have not seen and the Mayweather family is coaching fighters for generations.

[JollyGood]

What has that got to do with Mayweather training Joshua? There is no truth in it at all...

Joshua has his own team and training camp, he does not need Mayweather but a few members keep perpetuating the misinformation.

In football terms what you are saying is true that not every player cannot be a good coach or a manager and you need to have specific skills to be that in football but when it comes to Floyd Mayweather he is running a gym for a long time and he is training fighters along with Floyd Mayweather Sr and Roger Mayweather who recently passed away. So it is nothing that they have not seen and the Mayweather family is coaching fighters for generations.

[Japinat]

That was just a rumor so it's really not true, unless Joshua will confirm that he will be working with Mayweather as his trainer.
You know, there's a lot of rumor on Joshua because he is the underdog here, so he will adjust and find more ways to win, it seems like people's mind are already lock in that Fury will win.

What has that got to do with Mayweather training Joshua? There is no truth in it at all...

Joshua has his own team and training camp, he does not need Mayweather but a few members keep perpetuating the misinformation.

In football terms what you are saying is true that not every player cannot be a good coach or a manager and you need to have specific skills to be that in football but when it comes to Floyd Mayweather he is running a gym for a long time and he is training fighters along with Floyd Mayweather Sr and Roger Mayweather who recently passed away. So it is nothing that they have not seen and the Mayweather family is coaching fighters for generations.

[hulla]

So many great football players have failed as managers, the list is too big to mention the main names. I think Joshua asked Klitschko for assistance because of his mindset, he needed a mental lift up after being beaten by Ruiz so he went to Klitschko for support.

Quite simply, I see no reason why Joshua needs anything (advice, tips, tactics etc) from Mayweather in order to fight Fury.

If you read what I said clearly I don't only say a great player because there are some great player that doesn't have the knowledge of creating strategy and if you recollect some of Zidane moment when he's still player you'll see that he's good in creating a strategy.
Having said that, Joshua doesn't actually need a tactic from Mayweather to fight with Fury but having some talk about him with Mayweather is more like the mental lift up giving to him by Klitschko. Besides, when Klitschko gave him the mental lift up what we read in the news is that Klitschko trained him, isn't it?  now they are saying the same thing about Mayweather either.

[JollyGood]

Most people do seem to believe Fury will win but of the so many possible rumours out there I would think one of the far fetched and over exaggerated ones is that Joshua and Mayweather will collaborate. Joshua does not need a new trainer. Still the rumours persist.

That was just a rumor so it's really not true, unless Joshua will confirm that he will be working with Mayweather as his trainer.
You know, there's a lot of rumor on Joshua because he is the underdog here, so he will adjust and find more ways to win, it seems like people's mind are already lock in that Fury will win.

[Kelvinid]

That's probably because of the popularity of Mayweather, fans easily turn their heads around once they heard that name, but you are right, that doesn't make sense, Joshua was successful wtih his trainer, why change it for a new experement when the fight is approaching, no more time for adjustments, it will only ruin what they have started.

Most people do seem to believe Fury will win but of the so many possible rumours out there I would think one of the far fetched and over exaggerated ones is that Joshua and Mayweather will collaborate. Joshua does not need a new trainer. Still the rumours persist.

That was just a rumor so it's really not true, unless Joshua will confirm that he will be working with Mayweather as his trainer.
You know, there's a lot of rumor on Joshua because he is the underdog here, so he will adjust and find more ways to win, it seems like people's mind are already lock in that Fury will win.

[Silberman]

This is actually my first time on seeing a contract that already talks about having 2 mandated fights no matter whats the outcome of the first fight where rematch is a guarantee

because among all of the boxing fights I have seen, rematch is still questionable or not know on when to happen but this one had already a fixed one which is unusual.

Winning the first fight doesn't only give out confidence but also this do add up more popularity on whose gonna pull off that win on first clash.  

Both are world champions so it is not rare for world champions to have a rematch clause in the case they lose, no one wants to lose their belts because as we know that means money, but even more importantly the lineal title is at stake, Fury is still the lineal champion but after his departure from the sport due to drugs many questioned whether or not he was still the lineal champion, he prevailed against Wilder and if he beats Joshua he will leave no doubt he still holds the lineal title and can be considered to be the best of this boxing era.

[FinneysTrueVision]

The most recent tweets sent by both fighters make it seem like they will get the deal finalized in the next few days. According to Tyson Fury they will be selecting a venue to host this fight during this weekend. Several countries are being considered. Now that covid restrictions are loosening there might be a chance they could have this fight in the UK or the United States but I predict it will end up in the Middle East.

[JollyGood]

Votes in the poll: 45

Fury to win both fights: 35

Joshua to win both fights: 3



The poll has been stuck as 45 votes. hopefully we can get some more members to participate in the poll. With a potential boxing match of this magnitude I would have though many more members would have voted.

[JollyGood]

According to the Telegraph, the fiancée of murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi is asking them not to allow sportswashing to happen:

Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury urged to turn down £100m Saudi Arabia deal by Jamal Khashoggi's widow - Telegraph Newspaper Link

Sportswashing might be one issue but Fury has added fuel to the fire by saying he has other offers on the table and would look elsewhere if a deal cannot be agreed on a venue with Joshua.

Maybe the fights between Fury and Joshua will not go ahead because their two fight deal was based on them finding a venue by Tuesday (tomorrow) otherwise there is NO deal and NO contract to fight allowing both to pursue other fighters.

[7788bitcoin]

Most people do seem to believe Fury will win but of the so many possible rumours out there I would think one of the far fetched and over exaggerated ones is that Joshua and Mayweather will collaborate. Joshua does not need a new trainer. Still the rumours persist.

I am not sure how this rumor popped up, Joshua does have a complete team but if he wants he can get tips for his defense from anyone if he wants to and that does not mean he needs to get rid of his entire team and some of the boxers especially Tyson Fury move out to different coaches to learn about the art of boxing and their techniques and so is the reason he is the best in the world.

We are yet to have a confirmed date and Tyson Fury has given the Joshua team the ultimatum to finalize things and it looks like they are looking for July 24 card if they could fill the Wembley stadium with hundred thousand fans. Is it even possible during the second wave and if they are too concerned about the live audience let them fight someone else and come back later rather than delaying tactics and testing the patience of everyone  .

[AverageGlabella]

People underestimate Joshua's technical skills as he is a very good defensive boxer when he wants to be the downside to his game he often gets caught in a punch up and he does not take those hits well. He has demonstrated this in the fights against Andy Ruiz 1 and Dillian Whyte. Both times he was doing alright until he got caught up in a trading match which he does more often than not lose. If Joshua can stay focused and not get caught up in a trading match then I think he will do better than most are expecting. The great news for Joshua is that Fury does not get into these trade up matches and that means that Joshua can keep a cool head and punch from a distance. The only issue with this is Fury is the larger man and I do think he has the better reach too.

We all know that Fury has very good movement for a bigger man and he has some very good technical skills but it would be silly to underestimate Joshua. We saw Fury take apart Wilder but I don't think Joshua will be as easy to pressure like that. Joshua does have some dangerous hands but he can also box something which Wilder can not do. I do think Fury will edge it over the two fights but I think its going to be closer than everyone is letting on.

[FinneysTrueVision]

According to the Telegraph, the fiancée of murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi is asking them not to allow sportswashing to happen:

Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury urged to turn down £100m Saudi Arabia deal by Jamal Khashoggi's widow - Telegraph Newspaper Link

Sportswashing might be one issue but Fury has added fuel to the fire by saying he has other offers on the table and would look elsewhere if a deal cannot be agreed on a venue with Joshua.

Maybe the fights between Fury and Joshua will not go ahead because their two fight deal was based on them finding a venue by Tuesday (tomorrow) otherwise there is NO deal and NO contract to fight allowing both to pursue other fighters.

Just today Fury did an interview with Behind the Gloves YouTube channel and he said that he is 100% certain that Joshua will be his next opponent. I don't think the venue will be much of an issue. Historically we have seen big heavyweight fights in countries with oppressive governments like the Thrilla in Manila and the Rumble in the Jungle. The promoters will go where there is the most money available and just recently we saw that the Joshua vs. Ruiz rematch was held in Saudi Arabia despite many people being against it.

[JollyGood]

The interview broadcast was after his latest interview stating if there was venue and deal today (Tuesday) then he was free to find other opponents to box. I think it looks more likely the two-fight deal will not go ahead.

Just today Fury did an interview with Behind the Gloves YouTube channel and he said that he is 100% certain that Joshua will be his next opponent. I don't think the venue will be much of an issue. Historically we have seen big heavyweight fights in countries with oppressive governments like the Thrilla in Manila and the Rumble in the Jungle. The promoters will go where there is the most money available and just recently we saw that the Joshua vs. Ruiz rematch was held in Saudi Arabia despite many people being against it.

[Silberman]

According to the Telegraph, the fiancée of murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi is asking them not to allow sportswashing to happen:

Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury urged to turn down £100m Saudi Arabia deal by Jamal Khashoggi's widow - Telegraph Newspaper Link

Sportswashing might be one issue but Fury has added fuel to the fire by saying he has other offers on the table and would look elsewhere if a deal cannot be agreed on a venue with Joshua.

Maybe the fights between Fury and Joshua will not go ahead because their two fight deal was based on them finding a venue by Tuesday (tomorrow) otherwise there is NO deal and NO contract to fight allowing both to pursue other fighters.

I read the article and while 95% is about the crown prince of Saudi Arabia probably the most important fact is the one that your bring, boxing promoters do not really care about politics and there is a point to be made that they should not care, Fury has other offers over the table, that makes complete sense as he is a champion and the one that most recognizes as the best fighter out of the two, and I have said already this before but I will say it again, if this fight doesn't happen to me it's clear that Joshua is avoiding him.

[JollyGood]

BREAKING NEWS !!!

Hearn, the manager of Joshua has stated that the first fight is going ahead in the summer of 2021: (SKY SPORTS)

Fury and Joshua have approved the fight "site" offer and they are finalising the site deal (whatever that might mean)

The location has not been formally announced but as soon the site deal is finalised there will be a press conference.

[KTChampions]

BREAKING NEWS !!!

Hearn, the manager of Joshua has stated that the first fight is going ahead in the summer of 2021: (SKY SPORTS)

Fury and Joshua have approved the fight "site" offer and they are finalising the site deal (whatever that might mean)

The location has not been formally announced but as soon the site deal is finalised there will be a press conference.

Great news. It should be noted that the efficiency with which this event is organized is quite surprising, since many boxing fans are used to waiting for important fights for several years. And here everything will be pretty fast and the second fight will take place in december  

[freedomgo]

BREAKING NEWS !!!

Hearn, the manager of Joshua has stated that the first fight is going ahead in the summer of 2021: (SKY SPORTS)

Fury and Joshua have approved the fight "site" offer and they are finalising the site deal (whatever that might mean)

The location has not been formally announced but as soon the site deal is finalised there will be a press conference.

Great news. It should be noted that the efficiency with which this event is organized is quite surprising, since many boxing fans are used to waiting for important fights for several years. And here everything will be pretty fast and the second fight will take place in december  

I'm sure Tyson's father is happy now, he will not anymore talk about contract without date and venue of a fight. Maybe fore now we can speculate on the venue to where it will happen, if it will be in the middle east ,I guess it's okay if that's the only way they can get a crowd to increase their revenue.

[FinneysTrueVision]

BREAKING NEWS !!!

Hearn, the manager of Joshua has stated that the first fight is going ahead in the summer of 2021: (SKY SPORTS)

Fury and Joshua have approved the fight "site" offer and they are finalising the site deal (whatever that might mean)

The location has not been formally announced but as soon the site deal is finalised there will be a press conference.

This is good to hear. I expected them to come to an agreement sometime this week. It didn't seem like a coincidence that Hearn, Arum, and Fury were all in Las Vegas at the same time. Now we just have to wait for the official announcement to find out the venue and which country will be hosting the event.