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[cryptnroll]

Hi Everybody,

Welcome to =https://cryptnroll.com/



How to play?



Hope to get your feedback and participation!
We also have a Telegram group with the announcement of deposits and the winner, join us.
If you have any questions, let me know.

Cheers  

FAQ:

https://cryptnroll.com/faq

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[SFR10]

It seems fun but I have a couple of concerns:

• 2. When you send bitcoin to participate in the round do not empty your wallet! (if your transaction leaves your wallet empty you will NOT participate in the round)

  Does it mean we should leave an excess amount of funds in the address that we'll be sending from so our deposits are counted for the round?

• Each round takes 24 hours, after that, a random winner is picked based on his chances
  

  I do know that you mentioned in your "FAQ" page about using random.org until you've developed your own tool but how can we be sure that you'll be using them for choosing the winners?
  ^{- AFAIK, there isn't a live video feed of some sort. Am I right?}

[dkbit98]

I checked your website and I can't find any proof that anything here is provably fair, meaning that winners can be manipulated, everything is collected in one pot and all transactions are probably done manually.
There is cryptnroll telegram channel with only 3 members, and according to your terms of service you say that you are registered in Malta without much information.

Using website calculator I am reducing the risk and increasing chances to win, but let's see what happens if I deposit 0.01 BTC.
I would have 92.97% chance to win.... 0.000757 BTC

[stomachgrowls]

Can you explain on this?

2. When you send bitcoin to participate in the round do not empty your wallet! (if your transaction leaves your wallet empty you will NOT participate in the round)

So basically you should have some balance left on your wallet so that your bet wouldnt failed?

[btc78]

Can you explain on this?

2. When you send bitcoin to participate in the round do not empty your wallet! (if your transaction leaves your wallet empty you will NOT participate in the round)

So basically you should have some balance left on your wallet so that your bet wouldnt failed?

wow for my Experience in gambling for years in crypto base sites I have never experience such things that I need to maintain balance on my wallet ?

What a strange rule , I don't know what's the story behind that , it looks like Hostages  our funds for us to remain playing , it seems Unfair and wasn't tolerable .

Hope that OP has a good answer on this .

Or maybe this is For a Competition round he was mentioning?

[stomachgrowls]

Can you explain on this?

2. When you send bitcoin to participate in the round do not empty your wallet! (if your transaction leaves your wallet empty you will NOT participate in the round)

So basically you should have some balance left on your wallet so that your bet wouldnt failed?

wow for my Experience in gambling for years in crypto base sites I have never experience such things that I need to maintain balance on my wallet ?

What a strange rule , I don't know what's the story behind that , it looks like Hostages  our funds for us to remain playing , it seems Unfair and wasn't tolerable .

Hope that OP has a good answer on this .

Or maybe this is For a Competition round he was mentioning?

This one actually boggles my mind too because ever since on my gambling experience for several years on this market, this is the only time i do see such rule for you not to empty your wallet.

Talking sensively that theres no really connection if the wallet you have used on sending out your bets does or doesnt have balance left when you do make out bets because not all
would really be using up their main wallet or simply they do only have that amount left on the said wallet which means you dont have any options.

Wallet addresses or any platforms doesnt really connect wallets for it to have some connected functions.How does the platform do detect out that it doesnt have balance left on the wallet used?
In what purpose on having such rule? I dont really get it.

[Haunebu]

Jackpot sites like yours don't usually attract gamblers unless they provide something unique and creative which I haven't noticed in your site sadly.

The biggest problem with your site in my opinion is the TX times and fees associated with BTC currently along with the commission that you take from every win(Failed to mention in the ANN and site). What exactly is your commission percentage op?

You should have provided multiple payment methods like LTC, DOGE, XRP etc in order to address these issues.

[Maus0728]

This is my first post here or on any forum at all. Hope to get your feedback and participation!

Here's my honest feedback.

PLAGIARIZED TERMS AND CONDITION

Log Data
When you visit our website, our servers may automatically log the standard data provided by your web browser. It may include your device’s Internet Protocol (IP) address, your browser type and version, the pages you visit, the time and date of your visit, the time spent on each page, other details about your visit, and technical details that occur in conjunction with any errors you may encounter.

Please be aware that while this information may not be personally identifying by itself, it may be possible to combine it with other data to personally identify individual persons.

ORIGINAL

Log Data

When you visit our website, our servers may automatically log the standard data provided by your web browser. It may include your device’s Internet Protocol (IP) address, your browser type and version, the pages you visit, the time and date of your visit, the time spent on each page, other details about your visit, and technical details that occur in conjunction with any errors you may encounter.

Please be aware that while this information may not be personally identifying by itself, it may be possible to combine it with other data to personally identify individual persons.

PS. LOL I think the whole terms and condition is just a copycat of other website's T&C.

[Bitinity]

Jackpot sites like yours don't usually attract gamblers unless they provide something unique and creative which I haven't noticed in your site sadly.

The biggest problem with your site in my opinion is the TX times and fees associated with BTC currently along with the commission that you take from every win(Failed to mention in the ANN and site). What exactly is your commission percentage op?

You should have provided multiple payment methods like LTC, DOGE, XRP etc in order to address these issues.

The biggest problem is not about the fee but about the fairness of the game. Jackpot/lottery game using random.org? Oh come on, it is 2021 already and no one will be risking money for such lottery. Even if the site choose to use something like a live stream for the drawing, it will be something debatable about the fairness. The site itself looks like a cheap website,  it does not look like a gambling site which is created by an experienced people as what they claim:

We are a team of entrepreneurs with a combined 15 years experience in Fintec and gaming. The idea for crypto’n’roll came along to present an alternative, fun, secure and anonymous way to win cryptocurrency

Really 15 years experience but having a site like this?

[rhomelmabini]

Can you explain on this?

2. When you send bitcoin to participate in the round do not empty your wallet! (if your transaction leaves your wallet empty you will NOT participate in the round)

So basically you should have some balance left on your wallet so that your bet wouldnt failed?

Not to brag but I'd rather stay away from sites like this, there are legitimate sites like this and has more reputation why not risk your money. Best if they just changed that rule but I still doubt if this game will be popular, good for OP with the publicity though.

[bitterguy28]

Really 15 years experience but having a site like this?

15 years of experience in Plagiarizing ... 

Imagine they have that long experience but They need to Copycat their TOC?

and not even Bother editing a single Word from it.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

15 years of experience in Plagiarizing ... 

Imagine they have that long experience but They need to Copycat their TOC?

and not even Bother editing a single Word from it.

15 years of plagiarizing should have taught them that they should change some things from what they are copying. I don't think that the year is a real thing, they just want to assure the players that they do not have anything to worry because they have experience. Man, I never frequent this board because I jump right in Gambling Discussion, but there are some scams that are being promoted here.

[Haunebu]

PS. LOL I think the whole terms and condition is just a copycat of other website's T&C.

Didn't notice this earlier. Also, op himself is inactive and is clearly not interested in resolving our queries. This just proves that this site is shady in many aspects and should be avoided since there are better legit alternatives out there.

Man, I never frequent this board because I jump right in Gambling Discussion, but there are some scams that are being promoted here.

Scams are promoted now and then in literally every section of this forum(Not just the gambling board).

[btc_angela]

It looks like the OP has been caught with plagiarism, first red flag.

And then didn't bother to go back and answer all the queries, not to embarrassed them but to make it clear to us gamblers, second red flag.

So I will say that we shouldn't stay away from this site for now, until everything has been resolved.

[michellee]

• The more he risked, the more chance you have

That can make people greedy and not think about the risk because they will have the money to win someday. But if they remember that to win the jackpot, it will need more funds than they can not expect, and they do not know how much money they should spend before they can hit the jackpot. So if you want to try your luck, you better know how much money you will use and not forget to stop.

[Maus0728]

until everything has been resolved.

I don't think that it'll get resolve in the first place if OP's main agenda is to deceive other people from getting robbed. Moreover, I really do not see an honest service being offered here for the masses, its like randomly promoting a fishy website who doesn't care about other people's welfare nor their image in the community.

[AhmadM]

PS. LOL I think the whole terms and condition is just a copycat of other website's T&C.

Does not mean to defend them (Crypt&Roll) I just have a silly question regarding this matter, what do you think if both of the sites are using "privacy policy generator" to write their policy?

Since I know that kind of service are exist on internet moreover their policy looks quite simple

[cryptnroll]

Hi everyone,

I will answer all your questions today, I am new to the forum, I didn't notice the thread was moved.
I am not here to deceive anyone, on the contrary, more games are planned, we want to build a solid community with your help.

I sincerely apologize for the delay, I am preparing all the answers.

[shoreno]

I checked your website and I can't find any proof that anything here is provably fair, meaning that winners can be manipulated, everything is collected in one pot and all transactions are probably done manually.
There is cryptnroll telegram channel with only 3 members, and according to your terms of service you say that you are registered in Malta without much information.

Using website calculator I am reducing the risk and increasing chances to win, but let's see what happens if I deposit 0.01 BTC.
I would have 92.97% chance to win.... 0.000757 BTC

they are new thats why they only have 3 members so far  but in the game your going to risk 549.69 usd ( 0.01 btc ) to win  38.48 usd ( 0.000757 btc )  .

 your chances are high but you once said that the site may not be a provably fair but even if it was provably fair there is still a chance that you could loose after having that calculated chance  but im not stopping you ,  just a friendly warning goodluck  .

[cryptnroll]

I think most of your questions would be answered here (keep them coming):

Q: Empty wallet questions
A: I didn't think that this would cause so much misunderstandings, we will definitely include the answer in our FAQ. The fact is that when we talk about the Bitcoin blockchain, we cannot know the" from address "according to this theory - https: / /en.bitcoin.it/wiki/From_address.
We believe that one of the methods with the greatest certainty is to determine the winner's wallet address from the "out" transaction block for the "change" transaction
For example, we can consider one of the transactions of our participants - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/854acdd3a778fc3ac4ca7b541dbbbdaaa6d995e6d7ea10ab7c4496dc2a564f93
where one of the recipients is our wallet - 1NDkLCpf15cicTXChHZfo2YS12otkdC5NZ
In this case, we can conclude that the second address from the out block is the participant's wallet.
You may question also: "but why are you not taking the wallet address from the in block"? - there are 2 main reasons for this:
1. Some cli wallets, after the transaction, create a new wallet for change, and access to the old one may be lost
2. In some transactions there are several wallets from the block (for example, here https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/257ce19d4da2c8b8c7f3118344e380d8abb4cf801988539d1ae80febd436f37d), and since we have no “connection” with the participant, we cannot determine to which one the winnings should be sent.
This solution is necessary in order to lower the entry threshold for participants and maintain anonymity, since we have no registrations and no connection with the participant, except for his transaction.

Q: I do know that you mentioned in your "FAQ" page about using random.org until you've developed your own tool but how can we be sure that you'll be using them for choosing the winners?
A: Regarding random.org
Thank you for your question, we have just launched this project with minimal investment and are testing the interest to this service.
We are indeed using the random.org platform through the official open api to select the winner. We still didn’t implement a tool for transparency, we wanted to get your feedback faster.
In short, we use the generateSignedIntegers method (more details in the documentation https://api.random.org/json-rpc/2/signed), and you can verify the authenticity through the verifySignature method. More detailed instructions will be published later, after testing the hypothesis about the feasibility of this method.
Also, we will be grateful if the community will advise us for the best way to choose a winner.

Q: The Privacy policy and Terms and condition plagiarized
A: They are not plagiarized, I used a website to generate them, they are pretty basic Terms of use and Privacy policy.

Q: The website looks like a cheap website?
A: I don’t understand your disrespect, a lot of time and money was invested into this website and we just launched, if you give criticism at least make it constructive.

Q: You should have provided multiple payment methods like LTC, DOGE, XRP etc in order to address these issues.
A: That's right, we fully understand this. But the point is that, as described in my post:" ... my first BTC game project "- we do not have answers to many questions, so we want to develop it step by step by listening to the opinion of the community in accordance with the "Lean software development" methodology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_software_development)
We want to build a base foundation on which new functionality will be added in the future