An Indian casino in New York?

[paxmao]

When you think of the Hamptons in USA, you are likely to picture a leafy area, close to the beach with nice uber-houses of the well-to-do and wealthy people of NY. However the sacred land of the Shinnecock Nation lays right around the corner, 90 miles from Manhattan and with an extension of 365 hectare (900 acres if you prefer) and they are about to open a casino by the road.

Gaming is a major source of income for Indians living in reservations and has provided an increase in income for them, however this development is - as it could not be otherwise - controversial due to the opposition of the locals.

The American Gaming Association estimates a positive impact of 100 Billion a year as of today with a constant growth in the past decades.



Have you ever been on an Indian casino? Good experience?

[swogerino]

When you think of the Hamptons in USA, you are likely to picture a leafy area, close to the beach with nice uber-houses of the well-to-do and wealthy people of NY. However the sacred land of the Shinnecock Nation lays right around the corner, 90 miles from Manhattan and with an extension of 365 hectare (900 acres if you prefer) and they are about to open a casino by the road.

Gaming is a major source of income for Indians living in reservations and has provided an increase in income for them, however this development is - as it could not be otherwise - controversial due to the opposition of the locals.

The American Gaming Association estimates a positive impact of 100 Billion a year as of today with a constant growth in the past decades.



Have you ever been on an Indian casino? Good experience?

I never tried an Indian casino nor online or offline.In order to make a comparison I need to at least try an online reputable Indian casino and see how it feels and what is my experience there.

I think an Indian casino in near New York is good but I am doubtful if it will attract many gamblers.There is still Las Vegas who gathers the best gamblers from the USA.

[mu_enrico]

I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).

[Jating]

I think it doesn't have any difference though, casino's operated by Native Americans are just the same games that you will find in Las Vegas or any parts of the globe. What makes it different though is that Native Americans has sovereignty and self-government. And that is why they are immune from regulations from federal government.

[Fundamentals Of]

I haven't been to any casino owned or operated by an Indian, American Indian to be specific. I was misled by this topic. Simply calling them Indians might mean a different country's citizens. Anyway, does it mean that since this is an American Indian casino the games are also different? Or does the casino also offer the conventional casino games which are offered by majority of the casinos?

[acroman08]

I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).

they do exist. the reason why didn't notice it in movies is probably that it looks just like any other casinos that you can see in las vegas. I don't know if they have any unique games that came from their culture but as far as I know the games from a native American casino is almost the same as the ones you see on a casino not owned by a Native American.

anyway, you might find this website helpful if you are looking for an Indian casino https://www.500nations.com/Indian_Casinos.asp

Have you ever been on an Indian casino? Good experience?

nope, probably won't experience it in my lifetime. I doubt I would even be able to visit the US. but if we are talking about an online crypto casino owned by a native American? I would definitely try it out.

[imstillthebest]

I haven't been to any casino owned or operated by an Indian, does it mean that since this is an American Indian casino the games are also different? Or does the casino also offer the conventional casino games which are offered by majority of the casinos?

in gambling we have country themed games (ex. american roulete ) indian can offer their own themed games but there would be classic games for all races  if they want to target more players worldwide .
 if you havent played an indian casino you should start playing to stop getting curious  .
gambling in india are banned and indian citizen needs to migrate to countries where gambling operations is legal if they want to pursue their gambling career .

[bryant.coleman]

The so called "Shinnecock Nation" is anything but Indian. They are a bunch of people with very distant Indian ancestry, who claims to be direct descendants of the Mohegan tribe. For me this is all just ridiculous. These people don't believe in the original Indian religion or speak the Mohegan language. Nothing differentiates them from the neighboring people who live adjacent to the reservation. So why they are allowed to operate casinos, while their neighbors are not permitted to do so?

[uneng]

To run a casino someone needs a lot of money to cover the big wins and losses to gamblers on short run. I wonder, from where do native americans collect so much money to operate a casino?
Are they millionaire to be able to do this efficiently? If so, why do they live in federal reservations? Or is there a federal department which takes care their finances?

[cabalism13]

I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).

I can't also think of a unique Indian Gambling game, I looked over the internet to find one and the images that was brought to me was just the same like what we always see on a normal casino.
Maybe they just their own play styles but still play the same game just like us. Or this record are only for Indians who owns casino over the USA continent.

[paxmao]

I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
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You must be joking Of course there are Indian casinos. It's a very big thing in the United States. In fact. If you look closely at the at the graph in the original post, you will see that their revenue is growing year on year. On the usual Las Vegas style, casinos are in fact lowering in revenue, so. Just take a look and I think your question. Is already answered.

[dothebeats]

I've never visited such a casino before, though I've heard a few stories surrounding them from friends and colleagues. Personally, I would love to try it for the experience alone and see whether they're capable to get me hooked like those Vegas-themed and Macau-themed casinos that I've been used to for years.

To run a casino someone needs a lot of money to cover the big wins and losses to gamblers on short run. I wonder, from where do native americans collect so much money to operate a casino?
Are they millionaire to be able to do this efficiently? If so, why do they live in federal reservations? Or is there a federal department which takes care their finances?

I think they have outside investors that are uniquely interested to what the natives can offer to the table. The statistics don't lie, so I guess there's really big money to be made from these ventures that backing them would be sensible.

[Hydrogen]

1/3 New Yorkers want to leave the city

May 30, 2018

One-third of New Yorkers want to ditch the Big Apple.

A study by brokerage and real estate listings hub Redfin found that 34 percent of its New York City users searched for properties outside of the city, Bloomberg reported.

It gets worse. Of that 34 percent, most looked at homes in our city’s archrival: Boston. The data, released earlier this month, also shows New Yorkers browsing homes in Miami and Atlanta.

It’s a nationwide phenomenon. Given rising prices and limited inventory, wannabe home buyers currently living in expensive cities are looking at secondary markets. Of the 21 percent of San Franciscans searching outside the Bay Area, most are eyeing cheaper Sacramento. Seattle residents are ogling less costly counties in sunny Los Angeles, while Washington, DC, dwellers examine nearby Philadelphia.

And while searches don’t reflect actual home purchases or relocations, Redfin says they’re a leading indicator of eventual moves.

Redfin senior economist Taylor Marr reported that, in 2015, Bay Area residents were searching outside the city for homes, and by 2016, census data revealed that San Francisco had lost residents.

The Big Apple had better brace for a mass exodus.

https://nypost.com/2018/05/30/tons-of-new-yorkers-want-to-leave-the-city/

Remember when new york lawmakers took years to finally legalize mixed martial arts in the state? Heavily regulated states like new york move glacially slow on new trends like introducing gambling to the region.

I would guess the reason this is being fast tracked involves NY searching for ways to prevent their mass exodus of residents to other states. A trend which began years before the pandemic.

There's a famous story about Donald Trump trying to open a casino in florida years ago and being denied As competition between states for residents and tax revenues intensifies. Perhaps we'll see casinos open in other states as well. Wouldn't that be great?  

[passwordnow]

Never heard and tried such.

To run a casino someone needs a lot of money to cover the big wins and losses to gamblers on short run.

That's out of the question because they wouldn't start a casino without a secured fund as it's needed to operate the casino for a long time.

[Vaskiy]

I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).

There is nothing specific about Indian casinos. Here it has flourished as a big business and the starting post clearly mention about the Indian population under reservation have seen good money out of caisnos. The large picture of the casino seems to be the attraction. Already few plans has been suspended, now the project is waiting for environmental impact review. We don't know whether it gets approved. Lets get into discussion after it opens by 2022.

[Twinkledoe]

I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).

There is nothing specific about Indian casinos. Here it has flourished as a big business and the starting post clearly mention about the Indian population under reservation have seen good money out of caisnos. The large picture of the casino seems to be the attraction. Already few plans has been suspended, now the project is waiting for environmental impact review. We don't know whether it gets approved. Lets get into discussion after it opens by 2022.

Haven't been in an Indian casino. Just like others, I have been only in a Chinese-operated casino like in Macau. But I don't think there will be much of a deviation from traditional casino. Will there be native games that will be introduced? We don't know. So yes, let's discuss this when they finally unveiled this casino. 

[robelneo]

I'm 100% sure that they have done a feasibility and profitability study on the project, this is something new and will benefit certain tribe of the region who I believe to be the ancestral tribe of that region, they are proud of their tribe that they have done partnership, they are targetting people from this region, based on the article they will also open an entertainment and restaurant venue to be announced soon, so there's a lot of happening around this project and could become a major tourist attraction.

I have not been into an Indian casino, I'm sure gamblers will be curious about this new casino because this is something many gamblers will want to see what this new gambling hub can offer.

[Sithara007]

I'm 100% sure that they have done a feasibility and profitability study on the project, this is something new and will benefit certain tribe of the region who I believe to be the ancestral tribe of that region, they are proud of their tribe that they have done partnership, they are targetting people from this region, based on the article they will also open an entertainment and restaurant venue to be announced soon, so there's a lot of happening around this project and could become a major tourist attraction.

I have not been into an Indian casino, I'm sure gamblers will be curious about this new casino because this is something many gamblers will want to see what this new gambling hub can offer.

If they setup a casino at that particular location, then the revenue generation is going to be huge. But the last time I heard, the state authorities are not permitting them to start the casino operations. The tribe and their partners have spent more than a million USD in lobbying for the casino, but till now they haven't got the necessary permits to start operations.

[yazher]

To run a casino someone needs a lot of money to cover the big wins and losses to gamblers on short run. I wonder, from where do native americans collect so much money to operate a casino?
Are they millionaire to be able to do this efficiently? If so, why do they live in federal reservations? Or is there a federal department which takes care their finances?

I think there is someone who is backing them seems there are lots who play casino there. someone that grabs the opportunity to get rich without showing himself to the public. Maybe one of the government officials because when you see the chart they are operating years ago until now. As for the small community, here in our city most of the small village has their own gambling habit which most likely results in something bad because, despite their lack of resources, they don't mind paying the money they only have. Authorities should take care of those guys' whole community like that playing casino as if it's just some child game is not appropriate for the children and some people with sound minds.

[paxmao]

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Remember when new york lawmakers took years to finally legalize mixed martial arts in the state? Heavily regulated states like new york move glacially slow on new trends like introducing gambling to the region.

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Actually, the key is that the land owned by the Native Americans, precisely the reservations, are considered sovereign territory in many ways, so those regulations you speak of do not apply in many aspects. As you can see here, the range of exemptions are precisely those that enable easy gaming:

Federal Indian reservations are generally exempt from state jurisdiction, including taxation, except when Congress specifically authorizes such jurisdiction.