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March 25, 2021, 05:18:16 AM
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A political party is something that comes up with bond and if your among of the existing group the person antagonising the Superior systems will get eliminated, so what are the right impacts politicians is showing people today, I tried to understand the reason while politics is in existence, looking for 1980, 1987 1990, system of leadership then is totally difference compare to the present leadership now.
Before all leaders who is representing a particular region in govenment ensure they protect the interest of their people and knowing that those people in urban and rural area are the one that pushed or voted he/ her into such position for good governance and protection of their people with their last  blood, for better development,
But currently the system of government has changed totally to the extent that a seating president or senator representing a constituency in national house both upper Chambers and lower chambers don't consider the factor that they representing people who are in need and also less privilege to eat at least three square meal a day.

A) from your objectives what's the functions of a political leaders?
B) is it good to have a political group in a country?
C) why is that government has turn everything into politic?
D) military regime and Democratic regime in your country via leadership which one do you prefer?
E) is leadership meant for a particular political group.

Our problems today is bad leaders, how can people choose the right leader.

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March 25, 2021, 05:59:36 AM
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In as much as the political leadership in some countries of the world seem to be the problem of the people in that country, a country cannot properly function without some set of organised rules under a leader.


A) from your objectives what's the functions of a political leaders?

As every other leader, political leaders are people meant to inspire, manage and make political decisions for the people they are leading.


B) is it good to have a political group in a country?

Political groups are meant to bring a level of organisation to the method of choosing a political leader. Instead of having everyone just coming out on their own to say they want to be leaders, political groups help screen and project candidates of their choice to help represent and enforce their promises to the masses.


C) why is that government has turn everything into politic?

 Everything is political in some sort of way, but i don't quite understand the context in which you in mean that the government has turned everything to politics. The word "everything" is quite an elaborate word.


D) military regime and Democratic regime in your country via leadership which one do you prefer?

Democracy seems to disappoint me sometimes, people do things sometimes in this system indifferently without discipline or concern. It will be nice to see a military type of regime, with plenty toppings of democracy


E) is leadership meant for a particular political group.

 In a system that is not kingship nor lineage based, leadership and political power is meant to be revovled around and given to the person that deserves it the most at that time, based on character, promises and the probability to deliver.



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March 25, 2021, 08:25:27 AM
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Our problems today is bad leaders, how can people choose the right leader.


The problem with politics and having bad leaders is that we can't just change them, usually politicans and presidents are 50+ years old. So to find a decent new politcian now is nearly impossible, we need to look for much younger people in my opinion. But the problem is also that being a long time in politics will probably change you, there is a lot of lying and fakeness in politics. Maybe we need some new form of university education only designed for future politicans? I think having a few years of Ehtics courses should be mandatory for any politcian.
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March 25, 2021, 09:27:32 AM
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A) from your objectives what's the functions of a political leaders?
B) is it good to have a political group in a country?
C) why is that government has turn everything into politic?
D) military regime and Democratic regime in your country via leadership which one do you prefer?
E) is leadership meant for a particular political group.

Our problems today is bad leaders, how can people choose the right leader.

A. To satisfy the needs of people where they won and it can be anything.
B. Better teach the people about how to choose the right leadership instead of choosing a party.
C. Money.
D. Democratic is better if we have someone who never have greed about Money and powers.
E. Leadership meant for people not to their own party.









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March 25, 2021, 06:38:36 PM
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A) from your objectives what's the functions of a political leaders?
B) is it good to have a political group in a country?
C) why is that government has turn everything into politic?
D) military regime and Democratic regime in your country via leadership which one do you prefer?
E) is leadership meant for a particular political group.

Our problems today is bad leaders, how can people choose the right leader.

A. To satisfy the needs of people where they won and it can be anything.
B. Better teach the people about how to choose the right leadership instead of choosing a party.
C. Money.
D. Democratic is better if we have someone who never have greed about Money and powers.
E. Leadership meant for people not to their own party.
All these you said here is not what  am expecting from this thread, at first what is democracy, so the simplest definition defined it as a government of the people by the people and for the people, so who are the people? It's the citizens, what are the difference between military regime kinds of leadership and Democratic system of leadership, so give me your opinion concerning these.

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March 25, 2021, 07:02:53 PM
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All these you said here is not what  am expecting from this thread, at first what is democracy, so the simplest definition defined it as a government of the people by the people and for the people, so who are the people? It's the citizens, what are the difference between military regime kinds of leadership and Democratic system of leadership, so give me your opinion concerning these.
Democracy is by the people for the people but not for the every people!

Democracy based elections sometimes goes unfair because the difference between who won and lose are not going to lot differ but even if he got one more then he win the place. Military kind of regime is like dictatorship but it can also be a good as long as the dictator is not using the powers for his personal benefits.









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March 25, 2021, 07:24:06 PM
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A) from your objectives what's the functions of a political leaders?
B) is it good to have a political group in a country?
C) why is that government has turn everything into politic?
D) military regime and Democratic regime in your country via leadership which one do you prefer?
E) is leadership meant for a particular political group.

I'll answer as I see fit and its not absolute, just what I think about it so,
A) The function of a government is to its people,  to ensure that there people gets ways to an easy livelihood. I know its kind of a lot as my statement isn't specific but, should a representative of a constituency act in the way of protecting there people's interest, it would go a long way to archiving this purpose.

B) Yeah, its really good to have political groups within a nation to avoid lots of godfatherism and to ensure variation within the system and provide the people the various requirements to make comparison from.

C) Everything becomes politics and safeguarding political interest of both the party and the individual occupying a political position becomes, they dobt have a central idea based on the people. Its very wrong. That an incoming government will have to abandon the unfinished project of the out going government in a bid to siphon funds through project and ridicule the out going government forgetting that the funds were generated within the national budget. Its really really bad.

D) I'm yet to experience a military regime aside from what I hear so, no comments.

E) Leadership isn't for a group but to whom its fitting and thats where the problem lies because, you never can tell whom it is.

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All these you said here is not what  am expecting from this thread, at first what is democracy, so the simplest definition defined it as a government of the people by the people and for the people, so who are the people? It's the citizens, what are the difference between military regime kinds of leadership and Democratic system of leadership, so give me your opinion concerning these.
Democracy is by the people for the people but not for the every people!

Democracy based elections sometimes goes unfair because the difference between who won and lose are not going to lot differ but even if he got one more then he win the place. Military kind of regime is like dictatorship but it can also be a good as long as the dictator is not using the powers for his personal benefits.
Are you not aware that people manipulate election, currently elections is no longer free and fair, no credibility and no transparency, with money you can buy political position, the level of corruption during elections is extremely high, so that is the reason we do not select good leaders now, just take a look across the world it's few countries that have good leaders who is representing according to their seat or office, while 97% are are leading with influence of  godfather's which is the genesis of corruption.

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I can tell you that politics isa cruel thing, but without politics, a country can't do well, not just the country, not even the world, with this pandemic, but it seems that there isa political play at work, that a political leader clearly leads, but that they have a way of doing things, even ina filthy way The lack of agreement is that if the politics that are used leads to personal interest ina regime of just leadership and my own group of people does not matter

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Before all leaders who is representing a particular region in govenment ensure they protect the interest of their people and knowing that those people in urban and rural area are the one that pushed or voted he/ her into such position for good governance and protection of their people with their last  blood, for better development,
But currently the system of government has changed totally to the extent that a seating president or senator representing a constituency in national house both upper Chambers and lower chambers don't consider the factor that they representing people who are in need and also less privilege to eat at least three square meal a day.

A) from your objectives what's the functions of a political leaders?
B) is it good to have a political group in a country?
C) why is that government has turn everything into politic?
D) military regime and Democratic regime in your country via leadership which one do you prefer?
E) is leadership meant for a particular political group.

Our problems today is bad leaders, how can people choose the right leader.

I do agree with the statements above that there are gap between how the citizens of a country choose their leader. I can say that social media is a factor in how it acts.

Answering the questions:
A) To be a representative and a leader who works for the people and the constitution.
B) It is good to have a political group in a country as they are the one who shows the true color of the other party, thus making the choices to be clearer. But political parties right now if full of lies that it is now hard to distinguish if they're telling the truth or not.
C) Because everything is politics, as long as it is in the scope of the constitution, then its politics. It is just that they are making everything TOO Political, and of course MONEY is in action.
D) Military regime stinks with dictatorship, and I don't want to get dictated to what I can do and what I cannot, so I think the answer is democratic
E) No, leadership is meant for the country itself, political group is only the group he belongs when he is not in the position, it is the group that provide him the tactics to win the election.

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The problem is that people aren't smart enough, or don't want to take the time, to determine if the hypnotic talk of politicians is practical or not.

For example...

One politician tries to convince people to accept building codes that include reinforcement in concrete construction. Another politician tries to convince people to accept money savings by going without reinforcement in concrete.

Average people don't know what to accept, even if they listen to professionals who are paid off by the politicians.

In other words, the whole political process is one that tries to sway people in ways that aren't easily provable, and might be complete lies. Often the political process exists simply to take the eyes of the people off what is going on behind the scenes... often to keep the eyes focused on the sensationalism of the political talks... like one would watch a talk show on TV when he should be out protecting his property from BLM and Antifa rioters.

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March 26, 2021, 05:38:07 PM
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All these you said here is not what  am expecting from this thread, at first what is democracy, so the simplest definition defined it as a government of the people by the people and for the people, so who are the people? It's the citizens, what are the difference between military regime kinds of leadership and Democratic system of leadership, so give me your opinion concerning these.
Democracy is by the people for the people but not for the every people!

Democracy based elections sometimes goes unfair because the difference between who won and lose are not going to lot differ but even if he got one more then he win the place. Military kind of regime is like dictatorship but it can also be a good as long as the dictator is not using the powers for his personal benefits.
Are you not aware that people manipulate election, currently elections is no longer free and fair, no credibility and no transparency, with money you can buy political position, the level of corruption during elections is extremely high, so that is the reason we do not select good leaders now, just take a look across the world it's few countries that have good leaders who is representing according to their seat or office, while 97% are are leading with influence of  godfather's which is the genesis of corruption.
But why the hell people get manipulated so easily for the attractive words and social media craze, they should think from their own perspective irrespective of what others says. Election results are fair on most of the countries because still they have ballot poll system but people lost their common sense and keep picking the wrong people is why there is no good leaders.









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March 26, 2021, 06:54:14 PM
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All these you said here is not what  am expecting from this thread, at first what is democracy, so the simplest definition defined it as a government of the people by the people and for the people, so who are the people? It's the citizens, what are the difference between military regime kinds of leadership and Democratic system of leadership, so give me your opinion concerning these.
Democracy is by the people for the people but not for the every people!

Democracy based elections sometimes goes unfair because the difference between who won and lose are not going to lot differ but even if he got one more then he win the place. Military kind of regime is like dictatorship but it can also be a good as long as the dictator is not using the powers for his personal benefits.
Are you not aware that people manipulate election, currently elections is no longer free and fair, no credibility and no transparency, with money you can buy political position, the level of corruption during elections is extremely high, so that is the reason we do not select good leaders now, just take a look across the world it's few countries that have good leaders who is representing according to their seat or office, while 97% are are leading with influence of  godfather's which is the genesis of corruption.
But why the hell people get manipulated so easily for the attractive words and social media craze, they should think from their own perspective irrespective of what others says. Election results are fair on most of the countries because still they have ballot poll system but people lost their common sense and keep picking the wrong people is why there is no good leaders.
Selection is what election is made up currently, ballots paper and other electoral materials  used during elections is to fulfill electoral processes because those things is not counted in election currently, what actually existing now is handpicking a loyalist that will share allocation or revenues with them, so automatically elections now is not what someone can depend on.

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March 26, 2021, 07:19:56 PM
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Selection is what election is made up currently, ballots paper and other electoral materials  used during elections is to fulfill electoral processes because those things is not counted in election currently, what actually existing now is handpicking a loyalist that will share allocation or revenues with them, so automatically elections now is not what someone can depend on.

You can't simply say like that, even if we take a look at the recent election of US, Trump was in power so if he had the power to alter the number of votes from the actual value he will be the president again so he lost his power. Election conducted by individual body which is not under control of government.









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March 26, 2021, 10:22:18 PM
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A) from your objectives what's the functions of a political leaders?
Political leaders has divers functions. Different elected positions has its own unique function. One of such functions include regulation of national economy and security of life's and property

B) is it good to have a political group in a country?
Political parties gives on a wider range of capable leaders worthy of a certain position and it will always remind the aspirant or elected leader the obligation he owe his/her nation

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Selection is what election is made up currently, ballots paper and other electoral materials  used during elections is to fulfill electoral processes because those things is not counted in election currently, what actually existing now is handpicking a loyalist that will share allocation or revenues with them, so automatically elections now is not what someone can depend on.

You can't simply say like that, even if we take a look at the recent election of US, Trump was in power so if he had the power to alter the number of votes from the actual value he will be the president again so he lost his power. Election conducted by individual body which is not under control of government.
It's because Trump has a bad record and US dislike Trump system of leadership, so even the electoral bodies might be against him indirectly, OK take a look of what happened to one of African president precisely Nigeria, president Good luck  Jonathan was an incumbent president and people of her country so much love his governance, but the electoral chairman he appointed worked against him because of much offers from his opponent and he turn against Good luck Jonathan and another person emerged as incumbent president till date, what are the cause of this?  It's a corruption, that is evidence to show that elections are manipulate, and our votes doesn't count any longer, provided that they have the chosen one at hand no problem, definitely it will emerge with their influence.

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March 27, 2021, 06:46:57 AM
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Selection is what election is made up currently, ballots paper and other electoral materials  used during elections is to fulfill electoral processes because those things is not counted in election currently, what actually existing now is handpicking a loyalist that will share allocation or revenues with them, so automatically elections now is not what someone can depend on.

You can't simply say like that, even if we take a look at the recent election of US, Trump was in power so if he had the power to alter the number of votes from the actual value he will be the president again so he lost his power. Election conducted by individual body which is not under control of government.
It's because Trump has a bad record and US dislike Trump system of leadership, so even the electoral bodies might be against him indirectly, OK take a look of what happened to one of African president precisely Nigeria, president Good luck  Jonathan was an incumbent president and people of her country so much love his governance, but the electoral chairman he appointed worked against him because of much offers from his opponent and he turn against Good luck Jonathan and another person emerged as incumbent president till date, what are the cause of this?  It's a corruption, that is evidence to show that elections are manipulate, and our votes doesn't count any longer, provided that they have the chosen one at hand no problem, definitely it will emerge with their influence.
Maybe it is possible in Africa where they never let anyone to question and also maintain no transparency in everything related to government but it doesn't mean the condition is same in every part of the world.









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March 27, 2021, 07:07:35 AM
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Maybe it is possible in Africa where they never let anyone to question and also maintain no transparency in everything related to government but it doesn't mean the condition is same in every part of the world.
It does not mean that it's only Africa that practice such but other continent also involves in such, i said it initially that 97% of presidents across the world is corrupted and their leading with the influence of passed leaders, I just generalized it considering its political position or political matters, no country is exempted via corruption.

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Maybe it is possible in Africa where they never let anyone to question and also maintain no transparency in everything related to government but it doesn't mean the condition is same in every part of the world.
It does not mean that it's only Africa that practice such but other continent also involves in such, i said it initially that 97% of presidents across the world is corrupted and their leading with the influence of passed leaders, I just generalized it considering its political position or political matters, no country is exempted via corruption.
Influencing the people is completely different which is what I am terming as manipulating but altering the election results as the leader wish is cheating which is less likely possible on most of the countries. If money can buy the leadership everywhere then billionaires will be the presidents across the world.









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March 27, 2021, 03:16:46 PM
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@GeorgeJohn you need to present a statistics when you mention 97%, cause 97% is a high percentage especially when you are just assuming based on what you personally perceive. Election can be manipulated, and it is real, but so as everything that is acting here on earth.

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