Why do people beg on this forum?

[BlackHatCoiner]

I've never seen this phenomenon again on any other site/forum. People actually beg for money and it seems more disappointing than scammy. Some of them create new threads and explain a non-sense story, that is clearly meaningless to us, and then they provide a bitcoin address to "help" them with their "life problem". But it gets worse! They create off-topic replies on some already discussed topics. Do they believe that we'll take them^[1] seriously?

Is there anyone that believes them and sends money to strangers? Is there anyone that doesn't have enough problems in his/her life and wants to give a part of his fortune to strangers? Just saying, because I've never felt that happy in my life.  

I wonder, because they haven't stopped doin' it. They keep begging money months now and I assume that they've received some satoshis, otherwise they wouldn't do it.

[1] If we assume that they are more than one person that just wants to make easy money.

[Findingnemo]

Don't forget to report the thread which are created for begging because which is against forum rules, the thread will be trashed and the user will be nuked for sure.


People can send money for no reason even but on the internet its rare to happen unless the user got emotional with the story the beggar shared.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I would say people easily get this false idea that we bitcoiner has so much money that we would not care about sending sats to other when they ask for it.

Bitcoin is not less than a dollar anymore that a faucet will give you 5 BTC 😛

[BlackHatCoiner]

People can send money for no reason even but on the internet its rare to happen unless the user got emotional with the story the beggar shared.

Seriously, how emotional can you be? They literally tell you "I have no money for school send me some" or "I got robbed please send smth". On the so-called globalized scamming paradise, also known as "Internet", you'll see a lot of frauds. You know that you should never trust a stranger especially if he/she asks you for money (not to mention that the specific are newbies).

In real life, these people wouldn't beg you on the street. Why would they beg you on this forum?

[Charles-Tim]

According to the number 7 of the forum rules: No begging. Making use of the report button will be best, easy way for such people to be banned.

7. No begging.

Do they believe that we'll take them[1] seriously?

Scammers believe people can easily be convinced, but I doubt such giving can happen on this forum because we know a lot about scam and how to avoid.

Is there anyone that believes them and sends money to strangers? Is there anyone that doesn't have enough problems in his/her life and wants to give a part of his fortune to strangers?

Online strangers demanding for bitcoin or altcoin are scammers, I can never believe in such.

[NeuroticFish]

They keep begging money months now and I assume that they've received some satoshis, otherwise they wouldn't do it.

I think that they haven't. I've checked once or twice the wallets of the better "quality" stories I've found, sometimes after days, and they had not transactions at all.
I somehow think that the situation is different. I think that in certain circles the users of this forum are seen as brainless rich kids and the forum is seen (maybe because of all those airdrops of worthless tokens) as a place with easy to free money.
My view/theory covers the beggars, the people asking for no-collateral loans and all those attempting weak/un"polished" scams.

Don't forget to report the thread which are created for begging because which is against forum rules, the thread will be trashed and the user will be nuked for sure.

Doing that, but it doesn't seem to help much. I mean I know it helps, but these kids have more time than I do.



PS. Did any of you read the thread of that guy today basically asking about the 2010-2011-like faucets, since he wanted a couple of bitcoin for free?

[Oshosondy]

Don't forget to report the thread which are created for begging because which is against forum rules, the thread will be trashed and the user will be nuked for sure.

Doing that, but it doesn't seem to help much. I mean I know it helps, but these kids have more time than I do.

It do help, as fast as many people report such thread, as fast as it will be deleted. That is why such threads are seen deleted as fast as possible. As we see such thread, we should report it so that the person's account will be nuked and the post to be deleted.

[BlackHatCoiner]

It do help, as fast as many people report such thread, as fast as it will be deleted.

Why that hurry? No one is going to send them money.

PS. Did any of you read the thread of that guy today basically asking about the 2010-2011-like faucets, since he wanted a couple of bitcoin for free?

Meanwhile in a parallel universe...

[Heisenberg_Hunter]

The begging has been very common in every crypto based subreddits but most of the time these begging are being autoremoved faster than our forum. With steep increase in prices, we are seeing an increased number of scammers and beggars similar to how we had in 2017. At times, I have seen that begging has ended up in threatening too where if forum members don't pay the beggar, they would end their life  I couldn't recall the topic, but I think they were in 2019 time period where the beggar came up with a situation that his daughter was suffering from a rare disease and if the forum members doesn't donate, his daughter would die and thereby he would be committing suicide.

I still think one can beg for dogecoins and could receive a few for their begging in certain doge subreddits but I doubt such a bitcoin based subreddit exist today! IMO one of the most riskiest business which is happening through forum is Lending where even the trustworthy people run away with the lender's btc hence as @Charles-Tim said it's probably very risky to trust non-collateral loan takers too.

PS. Did any of you read the thread of that guy today basically asking about the 2010-2011-like faucets, since he wanted a couple of bitcoin for free?

With the current insane market prices, even making 1 doge per hour through faucet is kinda becoming difficult.

[MAAManda]

I Know Which Country They All Come From (Too Afraid to Mention It Here), Because They Are Already Famous As Fraud Country

You Can See Their Attempts To Scam People On This Forum On The Lending Board

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5317901.0

[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5304882.0

[3] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5301274.0

[4] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5304055.0

Many More...

I am curious, if indeed they do it continuously (in this forum or on the internet).

Meaning... It is true that there are people who have been deceived by the way they are currently doing ...

I am more curious about the question "Is anyone still scammed on the internet in 2021?"

Sorry For My Bad English, I've tried my best

[The Sceptical Chymist]

In real life, these people wouldn't beg you on the street. Why would they beg you on this forum?

That's the fundamental difference between online life and real life.  The layer of anonymity that the internet affords you basically takes away the fear to say things you normally wouldn't in a face-to-face conversation.  Haven't you realized that by now?

As far as why people beg here, a lot of newbies don't realize that bitcoin is actual money and they think people here are just going to give some of it away for nothing.  And then there are scammers posing as beggars (the ones with the hard luck stories and whatnot); any of those should be reported immediately to the mods.  Fortunately I haven't seen too many begging posts or threads lately--but that could be because they tend to get reported and nuked fairly quickly.  Back in 2015 it seemed to be a common thing.

[OgNasty]

In real life, these people wouldn't beg you on the street. Why would they beg you on this forum?

That's the fundamental difference between online life and real life.  The layer of anonymity that the internet affords you basically takes away the fear to say things you normally wouldn't in a face-to-face conversation.  Haven't you realized that by now?

As far as why people beg here, a lot of newbies don't realize that bitcoin is actual money and they think people here are just going to give some of it away for nothing.  And then there are scammers posing as beggars (the ones with the hard luck stories and whatnot); any of those should be reported immediately to the mods.  Fortunately I haven't seen too many begging posts or threads lately--but that could be because they tend to get reported and nuked fairly quickly.  Back in 2015 it seemed to be a common thing.

People beg in real life...  Ever been to San Diego?  You can't walk to the corner without being asked for change.  Not to mention homeless people shitting on your doorstep if you live anywhere near the beach (sort of like sig spam here I guess).  I think this forum mimics life pretty well.  It used to be an amazing place for likeminded individuals to build on Bitcoin, but I digress...

I really don't get this attitude that people feel protected to act out of character online.  If anything, I'm quite toned down online.  Those who think I'm an asshole here would be in for a very rude awakening if they expected something more polite in person. 

I am actually surprised people don't beg more here.  I get the begging PMs occasionally and usually try to respond with something inspiring to actually help them instead of giving them free money to be blown on whatever vice they have.  I do wish I got as many messages from developers wanting to help build something as I got from beggars wanting something for nothing, but that's life and with the government hell bent on making everyone dependent upon them for their survival needs, I don't see that trend reversing anytime soon.

Being clear, there's nothing wrong with charity and giving money to those in need.  It's supposed to fill the role that government is trying to fill with social programs that are killing our economy.  There's a right way and a wrong way to go about it though.

[Imran232]

In today's world begging is no more a scamming. I think it is an another type of business. But not a person who has self respect.  Before saying about your thread i want to share a story from my real life what i have seen. I live in a village for country lets keep it secret in our village beggars comes to our house to beg some rice from every House. From my childhood i saw lots of women and men but i remembered 1 women because when she comes our home to asked rice she prayed about me. And from last 13 years means when i was 5 i seen her first time and continuesly next 13 years she comes 1 day in every week to our village. So i remember her. Now i am 19. Last year i was going for a tution in another village which is a average distance from my house and after tution me and my friends comes comes. And that time i saw that begger women situp on a house stairs i thought she could be here to beg. But sudden i saw she entered the house and start watching tv. You couldn't believe her house is 20 X times expensive than our house. I was totally shocked. But still she begging. And next week she comes again to beg in our village. And my mom asked about that house but she couldn't say anything just say all just because of god. She still comes every week in our village.


So just think if people don't have shame to beg in front of others in real life. Then this is a online platform where you don't know him. Or you can't see his/her photo or any identity.  There here has a golden opportunity for him/her to run there business. Now YOU can asked me why i say begging is a business business business. Well it is a business for them. Because they get money. So they have no shame to run it. But we can do a one thing in this forum which is report. And we will do it.

[Jet Cash]

If you don't have a job, or don't want to work. then you can create some messages and fake IDs, and post on thousands of sites. You only need a couple of donations from a bunch of those sites to allow you to spend your time on the beach while others do the work.

[YOSHIE]

I've seen them here, begging and begging, however, it's not my business, I ignore it maybe it's better for me, than I should say something inappropriate.

Such people, I believe if they beg, most likely it will also be done in other places, such as Facebook, Twitter, etc., various modes, sadness, loss, calamity and so on.
Bottom line: can not do much, about them here, who have a begging nature, can only see and report, if, it is possible.

Honestly, I'm not surprised by them because they don't have a 'shy' attitude and they have already caught the 'lazy' virus.


In the forum their faces are not visible, in real life they are not ashamed, what else is here, so it's their job and profession, no matter how strong we say to them, the job / profession is still being done.
It's just other people, think 2000 times give or not.

[Zilon]

Scamming is gradually get upgrades. It comes in different formats and so many scammers device means by which the can easily take from the forum without been checkedmated or banned for forgery or other related crimes.
Most a times people go through a lot but that doesn't make begging an option. Bitcointalk has limitless opportunities where one can earn ranging from advertising your services, playing gambling or even ranking up to be highered by a campaign signatory

[electronicash]

People can send money for no reason even but on the internet its rare to happen unless the user got emotional with the story the beggar shared.

Seriously, how emotional can you be? They literally tell you "I have no money for school send me some" or "I got robbed please send smth". On the so-called globalized scamming paradise, also known as "Internet", you'll see a lot of frauds. You know that you should never trust a stranger especially if he/she asks you for money (not to mention that the specific are newbies).

In real life, these people wouldn't beg you on the street. Why would they beg you on this forum?

some of their stories sound almost the saddest of all actually that if you just wouldn't be reminded that there are scammers who do create tragic stories like their daughter has to undergo surgery otherwise she's going to die, you will actually feel the weight. but then again when you are reminded, you will not give in to it.

If you don't have a job, or don't want to work. then you can create some messages and fake IDs, and post on thousands of sites. You only need a couple of donations from a bunch of those sites to allow you to spend your time on the beach while others do the work.

with the right motivation, yes they will make fake IDs as proof. i even dug someone online who from pretending to be bedridden and he wants to go home to brazil and posted his pictures on gofundme.

[Daniel91]

In fact, I have seen a similar phenomenon elsewhere on the Internet, as well as on numerous other forums.
This forum is actually specific because a lot of new users came attracted with a large increase in the value of bitcoin.
It's human nature to try to reach a goal in an easier and faster way.
There will be more and more situations like this and users begging for money as the value of bitcoin grows and I think that nothing can be done about it except to report such posts to the admins.

[The Cryptovator]

Most of the beggar thinks all crypto users on the forum are rich (Lol). I think yesterday I have encountered a beggar who is looking for money to set up a mining rig. I was made a reply there to remind the forum rules. But fortunately, the thread was reported and got deleted. I don't think forum users believe in this kind of story from a brand new account. So reporting them is the best solution since we can't prevent them. You can say this is one kind of emotional scam attempt that should handle with forum moderation since it's against forum rules.

[Poker Player]

They simply beg because they know that money moves in this forum. In other forums they can also ask but it does not move the same money that moves here. In this thread, all but one of us (Jet Cash) participate in signature campaigns, which means that we receive money regularly through the forum.

If we add that this is a Bitcoin forum, which is a digital money, I think it is clear that if you want to get money by begging you are more likely to get it in this forum than in this one:

https://www.gardening-forums.com/