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Hello everyone! Do you think it is possible to beat european roulette wheel with 37 numbers? Personally, at one time I tried to get up on the faucets, nothing came of it. I tried different strategies, all strategies lead to a loss sooner or later. Not so long ago, I went to a well-known crypto casino and decided to play with a 15-bet Martingale. Set the autospin to double in color with a drop of + 100%. It took about 5 minutes and I got the opposite color 15 times and I lost everything. To calculate the house edge for Straight Up bets in roulette, all you have to do is divide the difference of 1 by the number of the pockets on the wheel, which in this case is 37. So, 1/37 = 0.027027027 which makes for 2.70% ( 0.027027027 x 100 = 2.70270). There is also American roulette with two zeros and high house edge. The house edge on all bets is 1/19, or 5.26%, except for the 0-00-1-2-3 combination, which carries a house edge of 7.89%. Let's discuss roulette, who had what wash and experience in roulette.
At one time I was playing roulette and noticed that in altered states (alcoholic intoxication) it is possible to guess the winning colors (the probability of winning is 50/50 percent). I won 20 times in a row (red / black). From a mathematical point of view, the probability of such a winning chain is very small. However, I do not advise anyone to conduct such experiments - they are very dangerous. From a mathematical point of view, it is impossible to beat the casino at roulette. Three facts play in favor of the casino - 1) The presence of sectors 0 and 00. 2) Almost unlimited supply of funds (unlike casino customers) 3) Prohibitions associated with the use of the martingale system. You just got lucky with guessing 20 numbers in a row. It doesn't matter if you play sober or drunk, in any case mathematics will do its thing. You can count the odds. It turns out that the chance of success is 48.64% of the first spin and then we divide each spin by 2+house edge, 18/37=0.4864. Divide 100% 20 times in a row by 2.05592... 100/48.64=2.05592...
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--snip-- but for me this process is way too slow because of the duration after each round roll.You would need to wait and im not that a gambler who can patiently wait. LOL
Try to go for live instant roulette available on most casinos and you may experience a bit more quick results taking place in those games compared to the normal ones.
But I'm in a shock when I saw that he lost 15 bets straight, which isn't easily possible in roulette except if his luck smelled the shit of his neighbor's dog in the early morning and so, it turned grey lol. (/jk) It happens if his luck takes a deep shit if he looses 15 bets straight, even though i am not a big fan of playing roulette online as you never know how the algorithm works but in real casino it is my go to game as it is the easiest form of gambling and it is actually fun without racking your brains like Blackjack ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . I played a live roulette game today where I was literally shocked to see at least 12 reds in a row, and I can't express how many times did I see such long streaks of reds continuously. Maybe it was time for reds to show up? As I don't know how to verify such bets that come and go, I sometimes believe that the game is rigged or there is something that even when I try to bet on reds to enjoy the red ride, it turns out that the ball ends up striking over a black number.
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March 30, 2021, 08:04:23 PM |
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Do you think it is possible to beat european roulette wheel with 37 numbers? Personally, at one time I tried to get up on the faucets, nothing came of it.
Don't know the difference between European and other roulette but every game carries a house edge and you are always expected to lose money when playing a game that carries a positive house edge. I hope that is quite simple to understand. I tried different strategies, all strategies lead to a loss sooner or later. Not so long ago, I went to a well-known crypto casino and decided to play with a 15-bet Martingale.
Martingale works for smaller periods mostly but again you are gambling against an edge to the casino and you will lose at some point. It is like trying to remain in the air without falling down, you might leap in the air for a short period by jumping but after a few moments, you will fall down. No matter what strategies you apply. Gambling is not about luck, it is about maths actually. If casinos were operating at a negative house edge, players would win. Quite simple actually to understand.
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March 30, 2021, 08:14:34 PM |
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People who think it is possible to win roulette long term, in any form, are in denial of reality or fail to understand the basic calculations involved. The mathematics are specifically built to favor "the house" and that is all there is to it. There is no magic formula that will be able to beat a game that is designed to make the casino money - that is why you see them in every single building. It is not a card game like blackjack, where if you are skilled enough it might be possible to win by counting cards. On top of that, if you are not playing with a real life physical wheel the odds are even more stacked against you, online casinos can (although they don't need to) rig the games to give a certain amount of wins or losses, by manipulating code behind the scenes.
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March 30, 2021, 08:31:47 PM |
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My advice is to enjoy it when playing Roulette, because there really isn't a specific strategy to be able to win at Roulette. Just do a strategy that you are good at and you feel comfortable using it, because whatever the strategy is, it will also lose money in the end. So let your luck determine the outcome, but if indeed you are lucky and manage to win. Immediately leave the game and make a withdrawal right away, because if it continues, the profit you get will be lost with your capital.
Indeed, a truth is exposed to everyone's eyes but many people still try to take the time to find a strategy while this strategy does not have any value in the cycle roulette because each rotation will correspond to different numbers, maybe math will be applied here but the question is how to calculate everything in detail when this roulette is running too fast. Our brain cannot calculate at such velocity and we can only be helpless and expect luck, whether win or lose, it is better to stop the game soon Even though most people actually already know that it is only a waste of time looking for strategies to win the Roulette game. Still, there are still many people who are curious to find out how to win the Roulette game. What is feared that those who are obsessed with finding a way to win at the Roulette game will think about cheating. Hopefully the members here don't have the thought of cheating to win in the Roulette game, because the bad thing will end badly too. And I also agree that mathematics cannot be applied to the game of Roulette, because the Roulette game runs very fast and it is too difficult to do calculations to be able to win the Roulette game. In the end, luck plays an important role in the game of Roulette.
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March 30, 2021, 11:09:43 PM |
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Basically bet more while being very mindful with each bet. I'm not so sure if there's any form of technique or strat to earn money on roulette. I just make sure that I mitigate my losses by either playing less or winning more. So far it has given me nice profits so there's not much to complain, but if you want a surefire strat that will help you bag money in roulette, well you are out of luck.
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In the 1970s, a professor of mathematics, an expert in chaos theory, general theory and econophysics Jay Doyne Farmer (J. Doyne Farmer) designed a famous gadget that increased the chances of winning at roulette, which banned the scientist from entering all casinos in Nevada.
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Basically bet more while being very mindful with each bet. I'm not so sure if there's any form of technique or strat to earn money on roulette. I just make sure that I mitigate my losses by either playing less or winning more. So far it has given me nice profits so there's not much to complain, but if you want a surefire strat that will help you bag money in roulette, well you are out of luck.
There's none, if someone developed something that really providing them decent profit, most of the time or much to say that they'll keep it not wanting to exposed since they are really getting something decent. No proven strategy or no one shared anything that accurately brings the outcome that everyone are aiming. If luck permits and someone wins and share his strategy it doesn't mean that you'll also get the same luck. along the way you'll just need to accept that it's more on destined luck to win as even you go yolo right at the moment when luck is there, then enjoy the outcome.
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In the 1970s, a professor of mathematics, an expert in chaos theory, general theory and econophysics Jay Doyne Farmer (J. Doyne Farmer) designed a famous gadget that increased the chances of winning at roulette, which banned the scientist from entering all casinos in Nevada.
I believe such advantage would work only over physical roulettes and human croupiers, as the gadget took in consideration the position, velocity of the ball and rotor to predict the most probable result. Anyway the scientist and his partner achieved 20% advantage over the house, what is a considerable result, although they gave up the *strategy* fearing retaliation from the casinos. J. Doyne Farmer - Beating Roulette
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None of the famed strategies work long term. Sure you might get lucky & hit a hot streak but that’s all it’ll be. I love roulette, I pick my favourite numbers & just go for it. I don’t rely on anything like martingale, it just doesn’t work. Gamble safely, responsibly & have fun.
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March 31, 2021, 07:37:51 PM |
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People who think it is possible to win roulette long term, in any form, are in denial of reality or fail to understand the basic calculations involved. The mathematics are specifically built to favor "the house" and that is all there is to it. There is no magic formula that will be able to beat a game that is designed to make the casino money - that is why you see them in every single building. It is not a card game like blackjack, where if you are skilled enough it might be possible to win by counting cards. On top of that, if you are not playing with a real life physical wheel the odds are even more stacked against you, online casinos can (although they don't need to) rig the games to give a certain amount of wins or losses, by manipulating code behind the scenes.
An acquaintance of mine worked as a croupier for many years. He told me that if you don't know how to throw a ball into a certain sector, you'll never be put at the roulette table. That's why even in a real casino you can't beat roulette. Unless, of course, you're in cahoots with the croupier.
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March 31, 2021, 07:56:22 PM |
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None of the famed strategies work long term. Sure you might get lucky & hit a hot streak but that’s all it’ll be. I love roulette, I pick my favourite numbers & just go for it. I don’t rely on anything like martingale, it just doesn’t work. Gamble safely, responsibly & have fun.
It should really be on this way but you know that human beings are tending to believe that there might be some holy grail for them to make themselves rich with playing gambling or simply in roulette. Lots of strategies had been tested out but still ending up on a loss if you aren't that lucky enough.Its just normal that you would say that a certain strategy works when you do won but I agree that this isn't for long term.Sooner or later you would really be busting up. For strategies comparing between online and offline roulette then we can really able to tell the difference.
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March 31, 2021, 08:44:50 PM |
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My advice is to enjoy it when playing Roulette, because there really isn't a specific strategy to be able to win at Roulette. Just do a strategy that you are good at and you feel comfortable using it, because whatever the strategy is, it will also lose money in the end. So let your luck determine the outcome, but if indeed you are lucky and manage to win. Immediately leave the game and make a withdrawal right away, because if it continues, the profit you get will be lost with your capital.
Enjoying is important and you're right there is no way to assure profits in gambling whether it is roulette or any other game. The only times when you can actually win money from gambling is by playing skill-based games like chess or some table games where skill can outperform luck. Sorry but it's better and good to beat the table of baccarat or Poker than the table of Roulette mate because that is a game in which pure luck is what you need to consider, Imagine how many numbers to choose while the price is far little from the wins? meaning that the House always has the advantage and you can only beat them unless you are very friendly with luck.
Exactly what I also want to say, there are some skill-based games where you may be able to beat others because you have better skills and win but even then most of the time people who are against you will be near your skillset. When I am betting on the roulette game, although rarely, I just bet on color of the next ball which I decide based on how the last few balls have poped. If the last ball was black, I will bet red or vice versa.
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March 31, 2021, 09:02:32 PM |
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People who think it is possible to win roulette long term, in any form, are in denial of reality or fail to understand the basic calculations involved. The mathematics are specifically built to favor "the house" and that is all there is to it. There is no magic formula that will be able to beat a game that is designed to make the casino money - that is why you see them in every single building. It is not a card game like blackjack, where if you are skilled enough it might be possible to win by counting cards. On top of that, if you are not playing with a real life physical wheel the odds are even more stacked against you, online casinos can (although they don't need to) rig the games to give a certain amount of wins or losses, by manipulating code behind the scenes.
An acquaintance of mine worked as a croupier for many years. He told me that if you don't know how to throw a ball into a certain sector, you'll never be put at the roulette table. That's why even in a real casino you can't beat roulette. Unless, of course, you're in cahoots with the croupier. Even if you are in cahoots with the groupier this is not worth it. Most casinos are controlled by many cameras, so it is almost impossible to cheat. The risk is > expected value, so that it will not work. Just stay away from roulette is my advice I can give to everyone.
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March 31, 2021, 10:05:52 PM |
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None of the famed strategies work long term. Sure you might get lucky & hit a hot streak but that’s all it’ll be. I love roulette, I pick my favourite numbers & just go for it. I don’t rely on anything like martingale, it just doesn’t work. Gamble safely, responsibly & have fun.
Martingale is not fun with roulette, with a huge house edge, its easy to have a 10 losing streak and that could kill our bankroll and the fun will be gone. Roulette is a game for having fun, I mean pure fun as we will never win consistently in a game that are suppose to make the house more profitable. The more the game is fun to play, the more we forget about our chance of winning, but we should look unto that so we will not be aggressive in betting, instead we will learn just how to limit.
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March 31, 2021, 10:55:46 PM |
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None of the famed strategies work long term. Sure you might get lucky & hit a hot streak but that’s all it’ll be. I love roulette, I pick my favourite numbers & just go for it. I don’t rely on anything like martingale, it just doesn’t work. Gamble safely, responsibly & have fun.
Martingale is not fun with roulette, with a huge house edge, its easy to have a 10 losing streak and that could kill our bankroll and the fun will be gone. Roulette is a game for having fun, I mean pure fun as we will never win consistently in a game that are suppose to make the house more profitable. The more the game is fun to play, the more we forget about our chance of winning, but we should look unto that so we will not be aggressive in betting, instead we will learn just how to limit. Can roulette give out 10 streak loss? I havent tested out yet though on using martingale because based on experience i do able to reach on maximum of 7 but well everything could go further ahead because losing streaks is on the infinite side or im just too lucky with that time.Its really a little bit boring when you do make use of common martingale system on a roulette game. When i do play this type of game then i do just make out some random bets and enjoy it rather than stressing yourself to be profitable.It does really remove the true essence of entertainment if you do mind that much .
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March 31, 2021, 11:22:05 PM |
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None of the famed strategies work long term. Sure you might get lucky & hit a hot streak but that’s all it’ll be. I love roulette, I pick my favourite numbers & just go for it. I don’t rely on anything like martingale, it just doesn’t work. Gamble safely, responsibly & have fun.
That's great mindset over playing with roulette, because there's no assurance on different strategies that's recommended. We can only depend on the random outcome of its probable results. If you're luck is there, then it's for you right away without any hesitation and you only feel safer once you taken that wins quickly.
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Many gamblers perceive gambling as a business. This is mistake. No, in my opinion, gambling is not a business.
Business is an activity aimed at making a profit. Profit is the excess of income over expenses. The player has no business expenses and therefore no profit. Business is also characterized by standardized repetitive business processes. In gambling, the situation is different.
Gambling is a player's single combat with chaos and destiny. Yes, the player can receive a prize, that is, income. But this is not a business - income. A certain similarity between gaming and business is a mental trap. Gambling is entertainment.
In my opinion, they should be perceived precisely in this capacity.
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I think it's quite too hard to predict if we are talking about the roulette the odds and chance are too far to your expectation but if you are talking about the roulette just all about the color, not on the number I think you have a higher chance to get a percentage of 33 to get the color that you want, but I guess even though the probability is much higher you cannot ignore another 64 percent the other color got shows. A gambler's mind always a gambler so good to stay in what you think there's a chance to win. Well on my side I guess its good to bet on a 5 other color and then 3 on the bonus or the highest price.
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Hello everyone! Do you think it is possible to beat european roulette wheel with 37 numbers? Personally, at one time I tried to get up on the faucets, nothing came of it. I tried different strategies, all strategies lead to a loss sooner or later. Not so long ago, I went to a well-known crypto casino and decided to play with a 15-bet Martingale. Set the autospin to double in color with a drop of + 100%. It took about 5 minutes and I got the opposite color 15 times and I lost everything. To calculate the house edge for Straight Up bets in roulette, all you have to do is divide the difference of 1 by the number of the pockets on the wheel, which in this case is 37. So, 1/37 = 0.027027027 which makes for 2.70% ( 0.027027027 x 100 = 2.70270). There is also American roulette with two zeros and high house edge. The house edge on all bets is 1/19, or 5.26%, except for the 0-00-1-2-3 combination, which carries a house edge of 7.89%. Let's discuss roulette, who had what wash and experience in roulette.
At one time I was playing roulette and noticed that in altered states (alcoholic intoxication) it is possible to guess the winning colors (the probability of winning is 50/50 percent). I won 20 times in a row (red / black). From a mathematical point of view, the probability of such a winning chain is very small. However, I do not advise anyone to conduct such experiments - they are very dangerous. From a mathematical point of view, it is impossible to beat the casino at roulette. Three facts play in favor of the casino - 1) The presence of sectors 0 and 00. 2) Almost unlimited supply of funds (unlike casino customers) 3) Prohibitions associated with the use of the martingale system. You just got lucky with guessing 20 numbers in a row. It doesn't matter if you play sober or drunk, in any case mathematics will do its thing. You can count the odds. It turns out that the chance of success is 48.64% of the first spin and then we divide each spin by 2+house edge, 18/37=0.4864. Divide 100% 20 times in a row by 2.05592... 100/48.64=2.05592... At the same time we also need to consider the number of people trying to guess the next colour the roulette is going to show daily and when you think on those terms there are so many people trying to do exactly this that it makes complete sense that someone out of so many people is able to do it by statistics alone, so while it is an interesting anecdote to tell it is not something that you can do reliably so it is not really a way to beat the roulette.
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