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August 19, 2021, 02:55:21 PM |
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Sometimes casino give no deposits and you can get lucky. You should be very lucky if there is a high wager for wagering, and sometimes there are no requirements for a wager. I was lucky 2 times, I withdrew about $ 20 from bc.game and about $ 30 from bitsarcade. In bc.game they gave a few dollars without conditions, you just had to play the minimum amount for withdrawal without a wager and withdraw the win in half an hour. At bitsarcade.com, they also gave no deposit without a wager, you just had to play the minimum amount for withdrawal. But there were already some problems, at first the forum thought that they did not pay and the project was scam. But as it turned out, the casino pays and operates as usual casinos, everything is fair. How much have you withdrawn from no deposit, maybe someone won the jackpot playing for no deposit?
Well, there are casinos that won't even allow you to withdraw a cent before you deposit. I had a similar bad experience at TrustDice earlier, when I was tipped by a chatter and managed to roll it nicely to a decent amount to withdraw. Once I tried to withdraw, I was told that you cannot withdraw unless you have at least deposit some money and rolled it over 1x minimum. Then there are casinos like stake with instant withdrawals and I don't think there are any such weird limits or anything. Personally, I have been lucky with some sites when I got free spins and sometimes free bets but nothing big enough to show off.
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August 19, 2021, 03:23:03 PM |
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Well, there are casinos that won't even allow you to withdraw a cent before you deposit. I had a similar bad experience at TrustDice earlier, when I was tipped by a chatter and managed to roll it nicely to a decent amount to withdraw. Once I tried to withdraw, I was told that you cannot withdraw unless you have at least deposit some money and rolled it over 1x minimum.
blackjack.fun offers pretty good bonuses, for those who have followed it, and have left quite good reviews, many of them have withdrawn the sign-up bonus without the need to make a deposit first. even then when having luck exceeds the minimum withdrawal. Different casinos operate in different ways! It's a fact that many people trying to abuse all kinds of free coins they get from casinos and in the casino, some of the casinos are trying to fight against this, and some are pretty flexible! I support strict rules about this matter, I don't like it when people abuse giveaways of any kind! It's nice to have fun, but there's no need for making zillion accounts just to earn few bucks, I don't understand why people are doing that, it's more a waste of time in my opinion than the money they earn in that way!
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August 19, 2021, 03:41:38 PM |
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Most of the casinos that have affiliate programs allow their users to withdraw their earnings without deposits, and sometimes you don’t need to wager the minimum to get your withdrawal. But again, different casinos with their own peculiar rules.
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August 19, 2021, 06:14:42 PM |
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Well, there are casinos that won't even allow you to withdraw a cent before you deposit. I had a similar bad experience at TrustDice earlier, when I was tipped by a chatter and managed to roll it nicely to a decent amount to withdraw. Once I tried to withdraw, I was told that you cannot withdraw unless you have at least deposit some money and rolled it over 1x minimum.
blackjack.fun offers pretty good bonuses, for those who have followed it, and have left quite good reviews, many of them have withdrawn the sign-up bonus without the need to make a deposit first. even then when having luck exceeds the minimum withdrawal. Different casinos operate in different ways! It's a fact that many people trying to abuse all kinds of free coins they get from casinos and in the casino, some of the casinos are trying to fight against this, and some are pretty flexible! I support strict rules about this matter, I don't like it when people abuse giveaways of any kind! It's nice to have fun, but there's no need for making zillion accounts just to earn few bucks, I don't understand why people are doing that, it's more a waste of time in my opinion than the money they earn in that way! There would really be those abusers who are trying to milk out a particular site on whatever bonuses or freebies that they could able to sniff on.Of course gambling owners are really aware on this one and this isnt a charity that they would really be letting those leak of funds since they could really make money if there's some chances.They are indeed versatile and could really make out some adjustments on whatever things that would really be harming out their businesses. This had been always an issue wayback but i havent seen it to be that rampant nowadays.
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August 19, 2021, 09:00:52 PM |
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There would really be those abusers who are trying to milk out a particular site on whatever bonuses or freebies that they could able to sniff on.Of course gambling owners are really aware on this one and this isnt a
charity that they would really be letting those leak of funds since they could really make money if there's some chances.They are indeed versatile and could really make out some adjustments on whatever things that would really be harming out their businesses.
This had been always an issue wayback but i havent seen it to be that rampant nowadays.
Casino owners are fully aware of that as there are many tests before they run the sites, knowing that abusers will always take advantage of any promotions that the house will provide. They learn and adjust in every way; they have better solution in order not to allow abusers to suck money out of their pockets. It's business and not a charity place for making free money, they'll make sure not to allow anyone or make sure it lesser if they can't stop it completely.
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August 19, 2021, 09:09:55 PM |
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Most of the casinos that have affiliate programs allow their users to withdraw their earnings without deposits, and sometimes you don’t need to wager the minimum to get your withdrawal. But again, different casinos with their own peculiar rules.
how can the affiliate program work if the invited user doesn't make his first deposit? so far it often works as a few percent bonus if you make the first deposit and the person who invites you will have a share of the bonus. It's not that the person who signs up with your ref link doesn't have to make a deposit. Of course, the person who signs up with your ref link has to make a deposit and only then you get income from it. The point is that you as a referrer do not need to make a deposit to withdraw income from people who signed up with your ref link and made a deposit. I hope everything is clearly explained now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 20, 2021, 01:13:35 PM |
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Most of the casinos that have affiliate programs allow their users to withdraw their earnings without deposits, and sometimes you don’t need to wager the minimum to get your withdrawal. But again, different casinos with their own peculiar rules.
how can the affiliate program work if the invited user doesn't make his first deposit? so far it often works as a few percent bonus if you make the first deposit and the person who invites you will have a share of the bonus. Then they need to spreads his affiliate links on many websites so more people can join under him and make their first deposit. Who knows, by doing that, he can earn some decent amount of money that will allow him to make money from the affiliate links because I read on other websites articles that can earn big money from just the affiliate links. But yes, different casinos have rules to withdraw the money from the affiliate links, which could be different from others. Maybe some casinos allow people to withdraw their money from the jackpot after winning some games or from their affiliate links.
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August 21, 2021, 04:04:00 AM |
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Then they need to spreads his affiliate links on many websites so more people can join under him and make their first deposit. Who knows, by doing that, he can earn some decent amount of money that will allow him to make money from the affiliate links because I read on other websites articles that can earn big money from just the affiliate links. But yes, different casinos have rules to withdraw the money from the affiliate links, which could be different from others. Maybe some casinos allow people to withdraw their money from the jackpot after winning some games or from their affiliate links.
Regarding the affiliate program does it currently fall under the Ponzi category? maybe yes, it is a ponzi category that does not harm anyone, and of course the referral link is actually still effective for spreaders on the website or even we find in articles with various advertisements in it. Some websites can run Ponzi scheme without we realize because I am sure many of us have that experience. But unfortunately, we do not know which websites will turn into Ponzi and which site will always pay their members. The referral link really works effectively for people who can get many members, but not all people can get many members because that depends on how they spread their link. Spreading the links through the article is one of many ways people used to get people who will sign up under them, but it needs more thought.
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August 21, 2021, 05:54:01 AM |
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Hello! Sometimes casino give no deposits and you can get lucky. You should be very lucky if there is a high wager for wagering, and sometimes there are no requirements for a wager. I was lucky 2 times, I withdrew about $ 20 from bc.game and about $ 30 from bitsarcade. In bc.game they gave a few dollars without conditions, you just had to play the minimum amount for withdrawal without a wager and withdraw the win in half an hour. At bitsarcade.com, they also gave no deposit without a wager, you just had to play the minimum amount for withdrawal. But there were already some problems, at first the forum thought that they did not pay and the project was scam. But as it turned out, the casino pays and operates as usual casinos, everything is fair. How much have you withdrawn from no deposit, maybe someone won the jackpot playing for no deposit?
I have only come across no deposit offers after using a website for some time - where you might deposit at the beginning, withdraw that cash a bit later and then be able to utilize a bunch of free offers. The closest I've come to free money from gambling sites is using matched betting, where I was able to earn around $400 risk free from the various welcome offers. Some were very generous - place a $10 bet and get $50 (really $25 cash) worth of free bets in return. If you do that with enough different websites and use the free bets on similar odds against each other - then you're just cashing out money at that point. Takes a little to understand at the beginning and you need to get the timing right with unlocking offers, but it works.
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August 21, 2021, 08:08:01 AM |
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Most of the gambling platforms today requires a deposit because you cannot play if you don't have any kind of balance in a different wallet. Having a no deposit and allowed their users to play is just a marketing strategy they are urging their players to play more in their platform. This kind of strategy is still open nowadays in the form of cashback and doing some task by that you can earn points to play into different gambling games. It's up to you how to manage those earnings some people can make more profit because of those bonuses.
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August 21, 2021, 09:05:50 AM |
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blackjack.fun offers pretty good bonuses, for those who have followed it, and have left quite good reviews, many of them have withdrawn the sign-up bonus without the need to make a deposit first. even then when having luck exceeds the minimum withdrawal.
I don't have an account on blackjack.fun and I am not aware of those bonuses but if people can withdraw without deposits they expose themselves to abuse and I doubt if they can keep them up, if people want to withdraw without the need to deposit they will have to do KYC, they should be strict, there are people who want to abuse giveaways and bonuses, they mean well with this bonuses but there's also a lot of disadvantages.
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dustboy
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August 21, 2021, 10:34:17 AM |
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Well, there are casinos that won't even allow you to withdraw a cent before you deposit. I had a similar bad experience at TrustDice earlier, when I was tipped by a chatter and managed to roll it nicely to a decent amount to withdraw. Once I tried to withdraw, I was told that you cannot withdraw unless you have at least deposit some money and rolled it over 1x minimum.
Casinos have their own rules/terms about withdrawal. I had similar experience long time ago with mbit casino. I received no deposit bonus, complete the wagering requirement but I could not withdraw the winning unless I made a deposit (forget how much is the minimum deposit) and wager it 1x. I decided to leave it away.
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August 21, 2021, 10:57:21 AM |
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Hello! Sometimes casino give no deposits and you can get lucky.
There was a time when I tried just that, too. I signed up at all the casinos that offered a free bonus. At three casinos I was lucky enough to make a profit after completing the wager. At one casino even a very good profit (at that time Bitcoin worth about $600). Unfortunately, all three casinos have made problems with the withdrawal. One suddenly demanded (without it being in the ToS) a KYC, the other accused me of having multiple accounts, which was not true. Only at one casino I finally received the payout, which was about $80. From my experience, I advise against it if you have the goal to make money with it.
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JohnBitCo
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August 21, 2021, 11:27:54 AM |
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Well, there are casinos that won't even allow you to withdraw a cent before you deposit. I had a similar bad experience at TrustDice earlier, when I was tipped by a chatter and managed to roll it nicely to a decent amount to withdraw. Once I tried to withdraw, I was told that you cannot withdraw unless you have at least deposit some money and rolled it over 1x minimum.
Casinos have their own rules/terms about withdrawal. I had similar experience long time ago with mbit casino. I received no deposit bonus, complete the wagering requirement but I could not withdraw the winning unless I made a deposit (forget how much is the minimum deposit) and wager it 1x. I decided to leave it away. If the casino require you to deposit once, before withdraw there might be nothing wrong with that. Some casino have the policy that you deposit at least once, to confirm you are a human (or whatever reason). For such casino, you can deposit the minimum and see if everything goes as expected. Don't try to over deposit, so if anything goes wrong, yours minimal funds are at stake.
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August 21, 2021, 11:47:11 AM |
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If the casino require you to deposit once, before withdraw there might be nothing wrong with that. Some casino have the policy that you deposit at least once, to confirm you are a human (or whatever reason). For such casino, you can deposit the minimum and see if everything goes as expected. Don't try to over deposit, so if anything goes wrong, yours minimal funds are at stake.
Definitely I will categorize such kind of deposit demanding casino as a scam one. I am not ready to agree that depositing funds is the only way to verify that you're a human or not. Fortunately I have never faced any such kind of gambling houses so far which is like enforcing me to deposit so that I could play with them or will get eligible for withdrawing (But I remember, in paid-to-click services, some sites asked like that). Moreover, I never go for availing the deposit bonus from any crypto gambling houses which might be the reason I am completely not in position to go for withdrawing with the any of gambling houses. At the same time I had no experience of withdrawing funds from gambling houses after making profits (but I had experience of withdrawing my signature campaign rewards).
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michellee
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August 21, 2021, 04:03:34 PM |
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Most of the gambling platforms today requires a deposit because you cannot play if you don't have any kind of balance in a different wallet. Having a no deposit and allowed their users to play is just a marketing strategy they are urging their players to play more in their platform. This kind of strategy is still open nowadays in the form of cashback and doing some task by that you can earn points to play into different gambling games. It's up to you how to manage those earnings some people can make more profit because of those bonuses.
Some online crypto gambling does not require a deposit to play because they offer a welcome bonus or a faucet for their members to test the site or from the rain. But I do not know if they need to deposit before they can withdraw their money so the withdrawal process can continue. If the crypto casino allows people to play from the bonus or faucet and give the best services to their new members, maybe some members will try to deposit to have a bigger balance in their account.
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August 21, 2021, 04:11:20 PM |
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If the casino require you to deposit once, before withdraw there might be nothing wrong with that. Some casino have the policy that you deposit at least once, to confirm you are a human (or whatever reason). For such casino, you can deposit the minimum and see if everything goes as expected. Don't try to over deposit, so if anything goes wrong, yours minimal funds are at stake.
Such a requirement looks very suspicious to me. If the casino offered a bonus and I was able to fulfill all the conditions in order to be able to withdraw it, then why additionally require a deposit? To prove that you are a human being, this will not help in any way (you can make an infinite number of bitcoin wallets), then why does such a request appear?
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August 21, 2021, 05:34:54 PM |
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I'm not a fan of freebies from gambling sites as i only plays using my deposit most of the time and i have no much time to check each site that offers those freebies .
Not that I am a beggar looking for tips or bonuses either but I don't mind getting some promotional offers from time to time. I don't check websites offering free money either but when I get some good ones from the ones I already play at, I take them with both hands. also i want to play in short time , meaning will spend my deposit betting in a couple of chances and if not successful then i will leave the table.
Not an expert by any means but I feel like you gamble for win more than for fun. I mean when I am gambling, I look to spend time and actually enjoy that time I am spending. Ofc there's no fun in losing but at least while the balance lasts, I forget everything and just love playing.
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