Very immoral marketing strategy.

[thsceptic]

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

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[mindrust]

Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.

I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)

[acroman08]

pretty similar to this thread Fake bets the only difference is that the thread I shared is talking about Roobet's sponsored bets from a streamer. I suggest reading the thread you might find what the community thinks about this immoral marketing strategy.

Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it,

I've read somewhere(maybe a post from the thread I shared or maybe from an article) that these streamers get a commission or a percentage of the winning they won from the sponsored money they got from the company. what I am saying is there might be a valid reason why they're that happy.

[AhmadM]

Such kind of strategy is not something new in this industry, lots of streamers who have enough large audiences already did it

Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%).

When you found streamers who not state clearly the money they are used for (sponsored or their own money)  it's better to ignore them and do your gambling habit as usual. Besides that, there is no one force you to watch them.

[jonval21]

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Each person has the right to be the way they are, if they want to be sensationalist it is their way of being, if they do not want to share anything too, I have seen many cases where the bets are very large and not all the time they win, many high rollers lose too, that It is normal, it is in the statistics, this is not technical, it is luck at 1000%, this is the great thing about gambling.

[dothebeats]

You can call it rigged since they are making it look like the game will magically make you win once you hit a certain loss threshold on your bankroll. After all, these guys are just also paid to promote a platform or a service, and are oftentimes given a script or the possible outcome of the events on their advertisement. If you feel like you are cheated by such adverts, you better look at the way how other restaurants advertise their food on a commercial. They use the same tactic in essence, so I don't think it's something new anymore. Also, at the end of the day, the player has the decision to play on that certain platform being advertised or not. I'm pretty sure not all of us base our luck on the luck of others, and would not immediately play in that platform just because some dude streaming online won hundreds of thousands in a single roll.

[Karartma1]

If people can't recognize that this filthy means are being used as a hook to fool noobs into losing their money I don't think there can be to be done.
 Remember the saying a fool and his money are soon parted. I believe it can be considered like a market force that allows dumb people to lose their money in favor of those who are smarter. It may sounds harsh but that's the reality.

[stomachgrowls]

The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Seriously?

Arent these things are part of a marketing strategy and this is the most common or known where advertisers or streamers out there been paid up to promote such site and obviously
using up sponsored money by the house itself?This had been known and been obvious.Why would talking about stopping it? What for?

These arent illegal things for you to mandate that it should be stopped.Yes, its deceptive but as a viewer you can eventually tell that its not their money.

Also, you do have the will neither you do play or not if you do find it out.Its their money and its none of our business if they would tend to play or not once they do saw those gameplay.

[Insanerman]

The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

This is some upright and bold argument. Yet, have you even wondered why gambling alone is already a risk of losing your money and not just a "potential" loss? Every gambler and even new comers are warned that gambling itself is risky, regardless of how people would promote certain gambling websites and how they "fake" their actions and reviews for a platform. Also, the only immoral marketing strategy in here is faking the number of bets, in which can easily be found by a lot of gamblers in here once they've bumped right onto one.

I know some of my friends that gamble huge money and it is really common that the longer you spend betting and the more you bet the higher the chance to win huge and might return your initial capital back. It is common to all, yet how can it be wrong to streaming players?

[harizen]

I understand your point but as a viewer, you should realize that it's a part of marketing.

It's become immoral to you because you don't like the idea but in the end, it's up to us if we will buy those that we watched or not.

Do you really think other people will just follow those streamers that easily?

[tabas]

I have watched some streamers that are really wild in their streams but they've been doing that for a long time and they're known for having that type of personality.
The entertainment value is the reason why people are watching them because it's fun and it's just a plus if the viewers will actually go gamble as what they've watched from those entertainers.

[Twinkledoe]

I have watched some streamers that are really wild in their streams but they've been doing that for a long time and they're known for having that type of personality.
The entertainment value is the reason why people are watching them because it's fun and it's just a plus if the viewers will actually go gamble as what they've watched from those entertainers.

As others have said, it is really up to the viewer if he will be attracted to this kind of marketing strategy. That's their job to get many players as they can by this stunt. And by the way, this should be in the gambling discussion board. If the OP can move to this section - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0

[Johnyz]

They are not forcing you to gamble anyway so there’s no immoral on that and that’s a legal way to market their casinos services so I don’t see any problem here at all aside from the different perspective of the gambler. If those marketing strategy is not good for you, then better to leave and go gamble anywhere.

[tabas]

I have watched some streamers that are really wild in their streams but they've been doing that for a long time and they're known for having that type of personality.
The entertainment value is the reason why people are watching them because it's fun and it's just a plus if the viewers will actually go gamble as what they've watched from those entertainers.

As others have said, it is really up to the viewer if he will be attracted to this kind of marketing strategy. That's their job to get many players as they can by this stunt. And by the way, this should be in the gambling discussion board. If the OP can move to this section - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0

Yes, just like the tv commercials that we used to watch and we're just passing it whenever we're watching our favorite shows. And just as these streamers or call them entertainers, we enjoy watching them and that marketing strategy is also their side deals to earn more but it's still our decision if we're going those promos.

[chaser15]

This kind of marketing strategy not only happens on gambling sites but for other services as well such as products, goods, offered skills, etc.

It's not new and I know viewers already know what they are doing. Gambling needs deposit so viewers won't just risk their money easily just because they saw popular streamers doing that way.

If somebody got tricked, then the marketing is working but we shouldn't blame them for doing that kind of promotion.

[suzanne5223]

First, it a marketing procedure it shouldn't be count or see as something immoral.
Second, all these claims about the streamers should be counted as controversial because they are only backed with words and no evidence. Besides, it may be the doing of another gambling site that considers the site subject a problem to their business due to the huge traffic the site is experiencing.
Gosh, I can't believe people take this so seriously.

[nakamura12]

This kind of strategy has been used not just in gambling but to other platforms too. Using such strategy is to promote their own gambling sites or whatever it is as long as their plan is to gather more people to try it. It is up to the person if he/she will gamble or not unless he/she is forced to gamble also no one is forced to gamble your money.

[michellee]

No matter what the casino or their hire person, it is our responsibility to be careful if we want to play gambling because that is our money. We do not want to lose much money. We need to remember that playing gambling is risky, and we can lose money anytime and only with be careful we can avoid the big loss in gambling. We can warn the newcomers, but we do not know how much money they will use in gambling, and I do not think that they will go to other people about that.

[veleten]

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

I will tell you a secret , 90% of the streamers are on a contract and are playing with the fake money
trust me I know what am I talking about
name any top streamer or a group of streamers , all of them are getting balance to stream , a very generous revenue share and whatever they "lose" or "win"
is NOT their own money , they do not risk a penny
I thought it was obvious , come on - a "top streamer" winning 300.000 euros every other week ( funny , is not it) and buying bonuses for 10-50k a pop
lives in the same rented apartment and is showing the same level of emotions
some are better at it , some are faking it even faker than their play money is
them , unlike true addicts and gamblers are making money through the affiliate and decent money too

[delfastTions]

If people can't recognize that this filthy means are being used as a hook to fool noobs into losing their money I don't think there can be to be done.
 Remember the saying a fool and his money are soon parted. I believe it can be considered like a market force that allows dumb people to lose their money in favor of those who are smarter. It may sounds harsh but that's the reality.

I can agree with this.
And the truth is if a person is stupid enough not to understand that he is being deceived by streamers or other advertisers, then let him pay for his stupidity. Maybe he'll be smarter
In general, when you see any advertisements on TV or on the Internet, you automatically begin to doubt that everything is so good with this, washing with a powder "or" toothpaste. In general, a normal adult simply from life experience understands when he is being deceived
But sometimes he cannot assess how such information corresponds to reality, how true it is?