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March 31, 2021, 12:41:49 PM
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If people can't recognize that this filthy means are being used as a hook to fool noobs into losing their money I don't think there can be to be done.
 Remember the saying a fool and his money are soon parted. I believe it can be considered like a market force that allows dumb people to lose their money in favor of those who are smarter. It may sounds harsh but that's the reality.
I can agree with this.
And the truth is if a person is stupid enough not to understand that he is being deceived by streamers or other advertisers, then let him pay for his stupidity. Maybe he'll be smarter Grin Huh
In general, when you see any advertisements on TV or on the Internet, you automatically begin to doubt that everything is so good with this, washing with a powder "or" toothpaste. In general, a normal adult simply from life experience understands when he is being deceived Smiley
But sometimes he cannot assess how such information corresponds to reality, how true it is?

Marketing is marketing... and they are using everything they can to draw attention! It's the purpose of marketing in the end! When it comes to this matter I always like to quote famous sentence:
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"I don't care what the newspapers say about me as long as they spell my name right."

In the end, let's not forget that streamers (gambling streamers) tip their followers all the time! It's not like that you follow them for nothing and you enjoy their big winnings! Something else is when you decide to deposit a lot to play slots... and you lose all that!

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March 31, 2021, 01:38:37 PM
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I will tell you a secret , 90% of the streamers are on a contract and are playing with the fake money
trust me I know what am I talking about
name any top streamer or a group of streamers , all of them are getting balance to stream , a very generous revenue share and whatever they "lose" or "win"
is NOT their own money , they do not risk a penny
I thought it was obvious , come on - a "top streamer" winning 300.000 euros every other week ( funny , is not it) and buying bonuses for 10-50k a pop
lives in the same rented apartment and is showing the same level of emotions
some are better at it , some are faking it even faker than their play money is Smiley
them , unlike true addicts and gamblers are making money through the affiliate and decent money too

That would be true. Paid promoters did not actually deposited their own money to gamble instead they will gamble what the platform gave to them and the streamer will get rewarded as what they do are what will attract more gamblers to try their site out and eventually lose most of them.
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March 31, 2021, 01:45:02 PM
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How to market gambling besides the winning scene? They can't because that's what they are selling, the hope of getting rich.
Nothing honest in marketing, and even burgers are different. What you see isn't what you get.

If the viewers at least 18 years old, they should know this real-world situation and somewhat skeptical about the advertisement. Their naivety is their own fault. However, I agree if this streaming industry is not healthy. Therefore, streaming platforms will take action sooner or later to clean up the mess.

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March 31, 2021, 02:04:31 PM
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How to market gambling besides the winning scene? They can't because that's what they are selling, the hope of getting rich.
Nothing honest in marketing, and even burgers are different. What you see isn't what you get.

If the viewers at least 18 years old, they should know this real-world situation and somewhat skeptical about the advertisement. Their naivety is their own fault. However, I agree if this streaming industry is not healthy. Therefore, streaming platforms will take action sooner or later to clean up the mess.

highly unlikely , I remember the grand purge on Twitch of 2018  when many if not all of the old casino streamers were banned
and what did Twitch gain from it?
the streamers and their audience went to youtube
streaming platforms are not the pursuers of the morals , they are making money while pushing the global agendas at the same time
banning gambling from the streaming platforms completely is nearly impossible , there will always be people  who want to gamble their money away or to watch others do it

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March 31, 2021, 02:52:05 PM
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^I think there will be class actions if we see more and more real users (not the losing casinos) complaining about this, and the platform will be forced to comply. At least they will restrict the video to 18+ and force streamers to state disclaimers about the reality of this "fake money." Their new woke policies regarding racism and hate speech already in-effect. Why not adding more absurd rules to the T&C? Twitch and Youtube are in bed together anyway.

But where is the class action?

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March 31, 2021, 03:31:50 PM
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I don't think those fake videos are any different than the fake advertisements you see on TV or the internet when casinos and bet shops are being advertised. The image they are trying to convey is one of success, wealth, and class. Businessmen in suits drinking martinis and champagne as they are surrounded with beautiful women who cheer with them in their victories. When I enter a betting shop in my region, all I see are dark rooms filled with cigarette smoke, middle aged men cursing and swearing because they were so close to a win.

All commercials and advertisements are fake, and the casino industry is no different from the rest. 

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March 31, 2021, 03:37:44 PM
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Op, I've heard of this issue of sponsorship which is not declared properly and fake reactions from the streamers before, and while it might be an immoral strategy, it's just that. It can stop when it stops working, I mean when people are not attracted to a casino this way anymore because they perceive it as a misleading practice and avoid the casino. And, to be honest, I don't know how abundant this practice currently is and how many people actually fall for this. If enough people are not interested in this and are not happy with this marketing strategy, it will go away.

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March 31, 2021, 09:27:57 PM
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Op, I've heard of this issue of sponsorship which is not declared properly and fake reactions from the streamers before, and while it might be an immoral strategy, it's just that. It can stop when it stops working, I mean when people are not attracted to a casino this way anymore because they perceive it as a misleading practice and avoid the casino. And, to be honest, I don't know how abundant this practice currently is and how many people actually fall for this. If enough people are not interested in this and are not happy with this marketing strategy, it will go away.
Simply people arent really just dumb or arrogant for them not to sense or know something when they do test out on their first trial.If there's something deceptive kind of way

specially dealing with non-fairness of the site then that would really be ending up a bad thing for such casino. Advertisers or influencers would normally be accepting these kind of offers

and this isnt an immoral marketing strategy but rather a normal one it is just there are some who cant just accept that they had lost after following some streamers.

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March 31, 2021, 10:46:15 PM
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I don't think they will always have a similar cycle of it. Moreover, not all start with that kind of loss. Many new gamblers who are losing in their first spins may stop their wager or even try another luck in another gambling.
Can they really ensure that they'll win in the next spins?
Nobody.
Although there may be such kinds of probabilities because this kind of strategy is commonly implemented, it doesn't mean to apply to most players. Everybody has their own choice to start, play, and also stop anytime.

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March 31, 2021, 10:48:59 PM
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Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.

I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)

OP should accept this fact when it comes to playing you are on your own, the gambling sites will lure you to play more with their giveaways cashback and freebies, it's on you if you are going to play with all your money, it's gambling and it's based luck you can win it all or lose it all, and there's no use blaming them, or you just don't want to blame yourself and feel sorry that you lose you turn your balming in the gambling site.

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March 31, 2021, 11:00:19 PM
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They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.
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March 31, 2021, 11:51:12 PM
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They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.
Each of us does have different impressions on the things that we do able to watch and if this one do really give us some bad impressions to be some sort of deceptive on your part then better stop watching it

because even if you do make out some complaints or words towards it then nothing can really be changed.You wouldnt know if these players are really showing off some enjoyment on real or just pretending.

Actually you can really point out when its already obvious and just like what others said that it is still depending on your own decision if you would play or not even
how well  they do convince out their viewers to play.

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March 31, 2021, 11:57:22 PM
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This is common marketing strategy thats been used with all businesses. We need to be aware of it. With gambling people won't go fall with these kind of marketing. There are legitimate platforms that let you withdraw all the funds without any form of restrictions. As days pass people are much aware of the gambling community, so they're into trusted platforms.

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April 01, 2021, 12:00:11 AM
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They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.

Up to the person if he will be attracted on this kind of marketing strategy.
Everyone is free to do their own techniques of marketing.
That is why, if you are user, you need to scrutinize if they are really worth checking.
There are tons that are doing this technique, and they are gaining attention because of this practice.
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April 01, 2021, 08:07:23 AM
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Sounds like OP recently fell for one of such "hackers" who claim to know a bug in some betting site or a winning strategy. I, myself lost quite solid amount of money falling for them in the past. You should ask yourself when someone tries to convince you: "what will he benefit from this?" if he has so called "winning strategy" he would put everything he has, make millions and quit to spend rest of his life in some private island instead of making videos by disclosing his personality and earn few thousands at most from affiliate commisions or ad contracts with betting services.

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give him a little time he will realize it. we have all seen it, their names keep coming up in the list of high rollers. i didn't even realize they are influencers/streamers until someone posted their youtube video. but hey they prefer that kind of marketing. a company would rather hire someone who personally has tried playing on them than someone who has not. if you are not convinced by these streamers then don't play to whichever he promoted. its still up to you.









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April 01, 2021, 01:33:00 PM
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this happened to me . i was about to end the game with a  loose if not because of that one last bet .
 i recover my capital with a few profit . its not always a pattern used in marketing but it do occurs for real to the lucky gamblers .
its the fault of the viewer if he hopes too much and he copy what the streamer is doing because the viewer can be badluck that time and good gambling sites always warn us about the risks in gambling .
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I believe that everything we see on TV, on the Internet, in magazines, and pretty much every advertisement or marketing activity shouldn't be trusted 100%. Even if someone says the sky is blue, you should double-check before you blindly believe them.

Everyone's in the game for the money, that's a fact. Not everyone is willing to scam or mislead people to earn cash, but most people will do this. So, it's up to the audience to be smart enough and not to believe everything they see or hear or read.

Specifically for this topic, I'd say watch them for fun if you like that kind of action. Play yourself if you want to play. Just don't expect 1. to experience whatever happened to the streamer 2. to win if you play and spend long enough. The house always has the edge and game results come from random number generators. There's nothing a player can do to surely win and that's the situation like it or not.

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April 05, 2021, 07:00:13 PM
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In any type of game, viewers like to watch to see what players are able to do. And in many cases, doing what we may not be able to do.

The same applies to games of chance, with the difference that the spectator can normally be part of the game.

It is up to the viewer to know what to do, so as not to be harmed. Humans in general, are easily influenced and therefore, it can be tricky not to fall into these marketing strategies.

These are regrettable strategies, but ultimately the fault lies with the people who are misinformed, and with the dreams that are sold by the consumer society in which we live.

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April 05, 2021, 09:22:26 PM
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give him a little time he will realize it. we have all seen it, their names keep coming up in the list of high rollers. i didn't even realize they are influencers/streamers until someone posted their youtube video. but hey they prefer that kind of marketing. a company would rather hire someone who personally has tried playing on them than someone who has not. if you are not convinced by these streamers then don't play to whichever he promoted. its still up to you.
We really have a choice to believe or not besides, this is just a marketing strategy and the casinos is not forcing us to play. Newbies have to realize that every casinos have their own marketing strategy, so its up to you if you’re going to play because of those high rollers marketing strategy, or you just want to play to have fun and you didn’t care with those marketing strategy at all. Here in forum there’s a lot of marketing strategy, like giving you the some extra reward if you place on too which very few are joining, so this is a sign that not all are biting those marketing strategy.
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