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April 05, 2021, 09:31:07 PM
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I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)
Yes, there are a few in the way of reputable casinos, specially now when there are so many around, popping out from nowhere, some with no licence - but I suppose this doesn't matter since they only try to scam people.

Having said this, there are a few places you can still enjoy a game or two where you don't need to worry about the legitimacy of the casino. But I do agree that with more choice in the market comes more risk for newbies to get scammed. Unfortunately, this applies everywhere ( mostly online) not just the gambling community, so the same diligence must be applied at all times.
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April 05, 2021, 09:59:18 PM
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I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)
Yes, there are a few in the way of reputable casinos, specially now when there are so many around, popping out from nowhere, some with no licence - but I suppose this doesn't matter since they only try to scam people.

Having said this, there are a few places you can still enjoy a game or two where you don't need to worry about the legitimacy of the casino. But I do agree that with more choice in the market comes more risk for newbies to get scammed. Unfortunately, this applies everywhere ( mostly online) not just the gambling community, so the same diligence must be applied at all times.
Always be cautious on sites that your dealing with which isnt only limited to gambling sites but on other platforms as well which i highly agree with this line but there are people whom are just
too careless or do really trust up easily when they've been shown some nasty winnings or multipliers with those top wagerers in the site whom they thought that it was always a legit
thing.Im not generalizing but as mentioned they are really playing with this kind of set-up to hook up possible players on their site.

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April 05, 2021, 10:22:37 PM
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If you keep your eyes and ears open, you won't need anyone else to awaken you about it. Likewise, if gamblers already know that it's just a plain trick by gambling sites to attract new gamblers to play on their slots or go for their slot bonuses, even new gamblers won't entertain such websites and never visit them again. The thing is, weighing all of them on one scale isn't good because not all of the gambling websites does like that. I even don't know which sites or influencers you're talking about TBH but FYI, I never gamble on slots even after watching someone creating fortunes over a specific slot and the gambling site asking us to try it out. Every gambler has a different taste and so, slot doesn't suit me.

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April 05, 2021, 11:13:19 PM
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Yep Ive heard and seen this one done before but its not really surprising as an idea, so long as the person gambling is playing with the same odds as everyone does then I dont mind exactly.    The case I know best is where the person paid to play made a massive deal out of not being able to withdraw all their winnings, so it was somebody famous in the community and they threw a tantrum even though they knew from the start it was a set deal and most people realised they had just agreed to play through free chips.
   Similar kind of thing is like deposit bonuses where winnings have to be played 40 times or something ridiculous though it can be alot smaller.   Again I dont mind so long as its clear and actually I did win that way once, totally free pay roll and I just kept running through the game until I had clocked up enough revenue to withdraw my winnings.   I didnt really expect to keep winning that long but sometimes it works out, either way I had nothing to lose and I dont mind promotions like that.
   All gambling is caveat emptor, its part of the game though I agree some know these things better then others.   Anyone new is best advised to proceed slow and get familiar to have the best chances just fair general advice.

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April 05, 2021, 11:22:40 PM
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Basically, it comes down to being lucky or unlucky.

Imagine that a casino gives $ 10 to new users. The user, as a fan of a club, bets $ 10 on that club, and against all odds of winning the club wins the game. The user wins $50, simply because he was happy with his bet. At this point he has two options, stop playing and withdraw the $50. Or keep betting. But will you be so lucky? You can be happy and make a right bet, or go wrong and get $0.

The player must know how to stop! If you enter a cycle of greed, it will only be harmful. You can start spending some change, like spending fortunes.

The person must play to fan and if eventually he has any financial return, great. You should never gamble with the goal of getting rich. This rarely happens.

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April 05, 2021, 11:59:39 PM
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If the owner finds this marketing strategy effective, I'm sure they will be hiring more entertainers/streamers/vloggers or any kind of hired man to promote their casino with a strategy like this. I don't find this marketing promotion immoral, Because this is what common marketing is. We can compare it to a smartphone company, In this case, let's use Samsung, They hired "Blackpink" to promote their phones but there are photos that some Blackpink members are actually using iPhone. This shows that it will be on the people to decide if they will fall for the marketing because of the positive things that the promotion showed to them. I'm sure people know the risk of going into gambling. I think it would be immoral if the casino involved in the promotion has records of scamming people and still luring out gamblers on marketing strategies like this.

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April 06, 2021, 12:30:18 AM
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I'm sure people know the risk of going into gambling.

Unfortunately, this does not always happen. Of course, the main culprit is the person. But that really is a problem that exists in both the offline and online world.

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April 06, 2021, 03:50:36 AM
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I was really amazed by those streamers hitting the jackpots like they are meant to get it. I was thinking that there is really something fishy on their bets because some of them win often than a normal gambler does, they bet without hesitation but they don't get suspicious from their fans so it is really hard to accuse them. They have a large fanbase so many will be tempted to try their luck on that platform. Even my friends tried but ended up with nothing in their bankroll, I'll show this thread to them to avoid those paid streamers. Thanks for posting this to spread awareness.
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April 06, 2021, 04:13:39 AM
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Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.

I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)
The reason that OP might've cared is because OP is easily influenced by people on the Internet or that OP got betrayed by his/her favorite entertainer or content creator. This goes to show that we have to take everything that we see on the Internet with a grain of salt. I agree with @mindrust about the people that are falling for this scam deserving to lost.

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April 06, 2021, 05:03:34 AM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars.
i saw a video in a gambling group that looks like that except about the pajama part but i havent thought that he was related to the casino but maybe he was just sharing his experience  . maybe thats how you trigger a big win ? you need to feed the site first and then the win will come out later on  .

Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.
if your an advertiser you need to act well so that you can attract costumers but putting a disclaimer that all are seen is just an advert is always appreciated .
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April 06, 2021, 05:08:52 AM
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The problem with this is if they are playing being paid by the casino under the table, as is being discussed. The sequence of plays described by the OP may be due to pure variance, but if it happens a lot it makes one suspicious. It should be investigated.

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give him a little time he will realize it. we have all seen it, their names keep coming up in the list of high rollers. i didn't even realize they are influencers/streamers until someone posted their youtube video. but hey they prefer that kind of marketing. a company would rather hire someone who personally has tried playing on them than someone who has not. if you are not convinced by these streamers then don't play to whichever he promoted. its still up to you.
We really have a choice to believe or not besides, this is just a marketing strategy and the casinos is not forcing us to play. Newbies have to realize that every casinos have their own marketing strategy, so its up to you if you’re going to play because of those high rollers marketing strategy, or you just want to play to have fun and you didn’t care with those marketing strategy at all. Here in forum there’s a lot of marketing strategy, like giving you the some extra reward if you place on too which very few are joining, so this is a sign that not all are biting those marketing strategy.

its the same with us who wears signature. i do bet on stake.com particularly on MMA and boxing. i followed these sports a lot though i'm not an expert to speculate who will win on every match. i can guarantee that i have at least more than 60% winning rate. in the UFC prediction thread, users speculate who will win on matches, its up to you to believe them sometimes i follow tokeweed's bet too. he didn't force me but i can see his bet makes sense. if the streamer influencer speculates as well, there is no forcing you to do the same but his marketing still matters for the casino.






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April 06, 2021, 08:03:19 AM
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^ What is wrong with the marketing strategy?
Please don’t take it offensively but marketing materials are made or created to get the emotions of the target market. On that one, it pertains to people who actually did the same or already experienced the same thing when they were gambling.  And that is actually one of their best experience and the emotion is somehow high and great to them. Nevertheless, it was made to make them remember their experiences of winning from placing bets so they will be attracted to get in. Simple as that.
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April 06, 2021, 08:28:08 AM
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The problem with this is if they are playing being paid by the casino under the table, as is being discussed. The sequence of plays described by the OP may be due to pure variance, but if it happens a lot it makes one suspicious. It should be investigated.
Investigated? I agree if the casino in question has a multitude of negative complaints against it, but I disagree if the casino is a legitimately popular site and has a positive reputation overall.

These marketing strategies are pretty common these days and are utilised to promote many FIAT and crypto sites successfully. You and op are overly sceptical in this case in my opinion.

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April 06, 2021, 09:21:07 AM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

How can you call a marketing strategy an Immoral when they are just letting you watch for free and it is your prerogative to believe or not.

Since you have already has this Idea then you are safe from their strategy , and you can say whatever you want as long as you are no foul in words that you delivering for reading.

Remember that Those gambling site don't Force you to gamble so it is your stupidity if you fall into their traps.

We must be aware of our decision and action and losing is our mistake and not theirs.

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April 06, 2021, 10:06:13 AM
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The people promoting the casinos online are not responsible for your decision that you are going to gamble on that site and lose your money, of course they are going to lie on their advertisement, they have to look good when a lot of people are going to see them, always remember that first impression lasts.
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April 06, 2021, 02:09:31 PM
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The problem with this is if they are playing being paid by the casino under the table, as is being discussed. The sequence of plays described by the OP may be due to pure variance, but if it happens a lot it makes one suspicious. It should be investigated.

But it happens in almost all areas. Those who review the iPhone, a new game or anything else, if they are known, someone is funding them to do that job.

For example, I remember that a few years ago there was a controversy with Apple, for paying people to go to the queues when the new iPhones come out.

Is it a questionable marketing strategy? It might be. But it has been used unfortunately for many years. Sometimes these cases are known, but most are unknown.

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May 06, 2021, 08:29:47 PM
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The people promoting the casinos online are not responsible for your decision that you are going to gamble on that site and lose your money, of course they are going to lie on their advertisement, they have to look good when a lot of people are going to see them, always remember that first impression lasts.
Yeah you're right. They promoting and to attract people they need to say all the good things of their business. Have you heard advertisement telling bad about their business? No. Advertisement is like applying for a job. You selling yourself, you tell everything good that makes you perfect fit for the role so you can get the position. That's the strategy and it for me it's not immoral. What ever the result of your gambling it's all your choice and decision nothing to do with the advertisement or people promote you.
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May 06, 2021, 09:28:39 PM
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Are you talking about those streamers that stream their gambling session? All of them are paid by the casinos. The money they receive for playing goes back into the casino. As far as I know, the streamers aren't allowed to withdraw anything. Hence, they don't care at all if they win or lose. For them it's nothing. So they make crazy bets without even thinking twice since they aren't risking anything. All they have to do is play and when they win, scream so they can attract/tempt people who are watching to gamble. A very perfect marketing strategy where only fools would think this all are real!

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May 06, 2021, 09:41:00 PM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Get used to it because this is part of marketing stuff and there's no way you can stop this kind of marketing way because streamers or influencers would most likely accept these kind of offers
knowing that they can generate income or money with just simply trying to fake out those wins and if you are a viewer who does know on how these scheme works then better shut up
and skip out and try to find another one. Why would be watching these streams if you do know that those funds are obviously sponsored?

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