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May 08, 2021, 01:35:42 PM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


Education is the only thing that can stop people falling for these tricks, unfortunately the best education you will receive is sometimes losing money and using the pain of that experience to avoiding repeating the same mistake. It is sad that these "influencers" are able to get away with it and some countries have cracked down on this form of deceitful marketing, however it can be very hard to prove what is really taking place unless. These sort of tricks take place all throughout life, which is why you have to learn critical thinking skills and look at every angle like you did. Understanding that these gambling operations are a business that makes money from losing players is what you always need to consider when placing a bet. Some games like poker or live blackjack can possibly be gamed in favor of an intelligent player, but slots are literally random number generators with flashy graphics designed to move your money to the casino's pocket.
Not only critical thinking but also having that common sense you would need because there are things in life that we do encounter which are bit obvious.Even  without having sufficient experience or learning

but too wary on how things works or whats happening around you then most likely you would really be able to detect it out.Yeah, this can be considered to be a trick since this is a deceptive way of marketing

where those advertisers been using those sponsored money just to show off that they are really spending their own money from their pocket and making out huge bets as if theyre affected when they lost

but the truth is that they dont really just care at all and do only mind on the pay on where the company would be giving out later on.

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May 09, 2021, 06:37:19 AM
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turn around you , check all the sites that operates online and you will find that more than half of them are having this kind of strategy in their own ways , they might not looks like immoral but if you dig deeper then you'll find their Immorality .

This is common now mate , just be careful in your playing and in your choosing of site, if you are not comfortable then move on to other site, easy as that.









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May 09, 2021, 09:00:14 AM
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Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.

I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)

I agree, when it comes to playing it's up to us where, when, and how much are we going to spend or wager, I don't see how these high rollers perform all I care is how I will play and how much I am going to wage, I already know that there is a lot of fakes advertising but I choose to ignore as long as I only play money I can afford to lose.
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May 09, 2021, 03:40:29 PM
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Each gambling sites has their own strategy no matter how bad or good it is as long as they attract more players. Fake advertisements are everywhere because honestly, they wouldn't create ads that will discourage their players. Lots of streamers are also taking advantage of this opportunity and what we just need to do is just to be skeptical and be wise in choosing a good site and game.
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May 09, 2021, 04:28:57 PM
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Each gambling sites has their own strategy no matter how bad or good it is as long as they attract more players. Fake advertisements are everywhere because honestly, they wouldn't create ads that will discourage their players. Lots of streamers are also taking advantage of this opportunity and what we just need to do is just to be skeptical and be wise in choosing a good site and game.
It is a much much better if gambling sites will just be honest and transparent on what they are promoting in the public. Honesty is the thing that can make loyal users that will trust the service. On the other hand, lies will just be seen sooner pr later, expect having distrust and small community to the site if that happened.
Personally I like those sites that are running contests.

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May 09, 2021, 06:12:02 PM
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Each gambling sites has their own strategy no matter how bad or good it is as long as they attract more players. Fake advertisements are everywhere because honestly, they wouldn't create ads that will discourage their players. Lots of streamers are also taking advantage of this opportunity and what we just need to do is just to be skeptical and be wise in choosing a good site and game.
I cannot agree with you more. In gambling, even businesses in every industry, tend to dramatize their content whether true or not just to attract people. It may be immoral to perspective of some but that is just how things worked and still are working. On the other hand, there are those people who share their reviews and expose such. 
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May 09, 2021, 06:32:04 PM
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In some cases the streamers were paid by the respective gambling platform. This is a wrong way of promoting the platform, because the streamer isn't risking anything. He's just playing on the gambling site for fun, whether he wins or losses doesn't affect him. He'll be paid. If a streamer is doing on his own learning the we can't comment on it. Because, it is his money and his wish to wager with big funds.

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May 09, 2021, 06:51:46 PM
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In some cases the streamers were paid by the respective gambling platform. This is a wrong way of promoting the platform, because the streamer isn't risking anything. He's just playing on the gambling site for fun, whether he wins or losses doesn't affect him. He'll be paid. If a streamer is doing on his own learning the we can't comment on it. Because, it is his money and his wish to wager with big funds.

How can it be wrong? If you say so, means that all advertisements that you see every single day on TV, Internet, Newspapers are all wrong?
Come on man, it is all about business. Any business needs advertising and these streamers are part of the business.
It will be wrong if those streamers forces you to gamble, if they gives you guarantee of win although I doubt if it is wrong thing to do since even if there is a streamer give you guarantee of win and you are being fooled of it then it is your own fault.
I do not mean to defend any sites or any streamers who do it, but it is what it is.
We as customers are the one who responsible for ourselves.

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May 09, 2021, 06:58:22 PM
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In some cases the streamers were paid by the respective gambling platform. This is a wrong way of promoting the platform, because the streamer isn't risking anything. He's just playing on the gambling site for fun, whether he wins or losses doesn't affect him. He'll be paid. If a streamer is doing on his own learning the we can't comment on it. Because, it is his money and his wish to wager with big funds.

How can it be wrong? If you say so, means that all advertisements that you see every single day on TV, Internet, Newspapers are all wrong?
Come on man, it is all about business. Any business needs advertising and these streamers are part of the business.
It will be wrong if those streamers forces you to gamble, if they gives you guarantee of win although I doubt if it is wrong thing to do since even if there is a streamer give you guarantee of win and you are being fooled of it then it is your own fault.
I do not mean to defend any sites or any streamers who do it, but it is what it is.
We as customers are the one who responsible for ourselves.
What you say is right, I've said about the streamers initiating common man to gamble through the fake bets. As you said everything is business, and we the customers need to take care of ourselves. However if a real streamer is wagering and following him if someone gets into gambling the newcomer will have known about true reality of gambling. That is why I mentioned usage of fake streamers as wrong way of promotion.

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May 09, 2021, 09:33:18 PM
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Not only critical thinking but also having that common sense you would need because there are things in life that we do encounter which are bit obvious.Even  without having sufficient experience or learning

but too wary on how things works or whats happening around you then most likely you would really be able to detect it out.Yeah, this can be considered to be a trick since this is a deceptive way of marketing

where those advertisers been using those sponsored money just to show off that they are really spending their own money from their pocket and making out huge bets as if theyre affected when they lost

but the truth is that they dont really just care at all and do only mind on the pay on where the company would be giving out later on.
Gambling attracts people who cannot keep their emotions in check, that is the main target audience for them. Which means when you do marketing like this, you are telling people who can see the reality "we are not interested in you if you can see the reality" and when people who have no idea how fake these streamer things are you tell them "oh wow he did that!! come on in maybe you can do it too!" and that is the type of people casinos want to attract. Why?

Because if you are a smarter person and know what you are doing, you will not end up losing too much money in a weird way, of course people can still lose money and that's fine, there are people who lose tens of millions of dollars, but the point here is that you may not end up losing too much to idiotic moves, if you make smart moves you could still lose tens of millions of dollars if you are a rich person.

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May 09, 2021, 09:43:40 PM
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In some cases the streamers were paid by the respective gambling platform. This is a wrong way of promoting the platform, because the streamer isn't risking anything. He's just playing on the gambling site for fun, whether he wins or losses doesn't affect him. He'll be paid. If a streamer is doing on his own learning the we can't comment on it. Because, it is his money and his wish to wager with big funds.
Those streamers have a huge viewers and that can be a good market strategy for every gambling site because it is being views by many, this may look immoral or what, but yes its legal and there’s nothing wrong about it. You can simply just watch the other live games if you think those streamers are just playing around without using his own money, beside they are not forcing us to watch and play, this is just their way to market that game and it looks effective that’s why they continue.

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May 09, 2021, 09:54:00 PM
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In some cases the streamers were paid by the respective gambling platform. This is a wrong way of promoting the platform, because the streamer isn't risking anything. He's just playing on the gambling site for fun, whether he wins or losses doesn't affect him. He'll be paid. If a streamer is doing on his own learning the we can't comment on it. Because, it is his money and his wish to wager with big funds.

How can it be wrong? If you say so, means that all advertisements that you see every single day on TV, Internet, Newspapers are all wrong?
Come on man, it is all about business. Any business needs advertising and these streamers are part of the business.
It will be wrong if those streamers forces you to gamble, if they gives you guarantee of win although I doubt if it is wrong thing to do since even if there is a streamer give you guarantee of win and you are being fooled of it then it is your own fault.
I do not mean to defend any sites or any streamers who do it, but it is what it is.
We as customers are the one who responsible for ourselves.
I agree. In every business its a must to execute an effective marketing strategy to attract people to use their product or in gambling to play on their sites. Im not against in this kind of strategy because it will depend on ourselves if we're going to bite their offer or believe on what we see. If the streamer lose or hit a jackpot (regardless if its real or he is paid to do so) dont expect the same destiny to happen to you.

Gambling itself is not a guaranteed money making platform or an answered prayer to become rich. Thats why only gamble the money you dont really need, because there's no assurance of good outcome if you gamble your money.

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May 09, 2021, 10:13:05 PM
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I don’t think you can blame the advertiser for trying to make their product appear as exciting as possible. As long as their games are provably honest and they aren’t doing anything other than what they have promised their customers, I don’t think there’s an issue. It’s not like they’re going to show you someone losing their retirement savings and their family after using their site…

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May 09, 2021, 11:37:46 PM
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I don’t think you can blame the advertiser for trying to make their product appear as exciting as possible. As long as their games are provably honest and they aren’t doing anything other than what they have promised their customers, I don’t think there’s an issue. It’s not like they’re going to show you someone losing their retirement savings and their family after using their site…
When we get into gambling it is our responsibility to set our limits and have self control. In reality many gamblers fail in it. Every way of promotion will show only the product to be exciting and enjoyable. We the users need to analyse and understand the reality and make right decisions. With our experience we can create awareness which is the only good that a gambler can do based on his experience.

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When we get into gambling it is our responsibility to set our limits and have self control. In reality many gamblers fail in it. Every way of promotion will show only the product to be exciting and enjoyable. We the users need to analyse and understand the reality and make right decisions. With our experience we can create awareness which is the only good that a gambler can do based on his experience.

Online gambling is stiff competition and every one of them is vying to get a big slice of the pie, so expect a lot of fake promotions, fake stats, included on some gambling sites promotion, but not all of them there are gambling sites that thrive on transparency and honesty, your task as a player is to check if the gambling sites you are playing are honest and transparent with good reputation.
Part of playing in a gambling site is to have a feeling of security and comfort, knowing you are in good hands and if you win you're going to get your winning and if you break the rules they will tell you right away before playing.

 

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May 10, 2021, 11:44:22 AM
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I don’t think you can blame the advertiser for trying to make their product appear as exciting as possible. As long as their games are provably honest and they aren’t doing anything other than what they have promised their customers, I don’t think there’s an issue. It’s not like they’re going to show you someone losing their retirement savings and their family after using their site…
It's still on the players discretion to play on that site if everything was already seen by them. The thing is if you want to play on a site you're not familiar with then better to DYOR, that's the best thing every player/gambler can do.
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May 10, 2021, 12:04:36 PM
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It's still on the players discretion to play on that site if everything was already seen by them. The thing is if you want to play on a site you're not familiar with then better to DYOR, that's the best thing every player/gambler can do.

Recently there was a case whereby a player was accusing a site I frequent on being a scam and rigged, despite them giving away tons of vouchers and having implemented provably fair.

It's just those special breed that think casinos are charities and all bets made must be won.

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May 10, 2021, 01:02:09 PM
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I don’t think you can blame the advertiser for trying to make their product appear as exciting as possible. As long as their games are provably honest and they aren’t doing anything other than what they have promised their customers, I don’t think there’s an issue. It’s not like they’re going to show you someone losing their retirement savings and their family after using their site…
It's still on the players discretion to play on that site if everything was already seen by them. The thing is if you want to play on a site you're not familiar with then better to DYOR, that's the best thing every player/gambler can do.
Some gamblers doesn't even make effort to look over the background of the gambling site they are planning to play at. A lot of those players were lately been scam. Regarding the specific topic, it's a form of advertising their site. One should know if the advertisement is exagerrated or not. As what OG said, as long as the games on their site are probably fair, and the site has no intention of being scam, everything is fine.

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Some gamblers doesn't even make effort to look over the background of the gambling site they are planning to play at. A lot of those players were lately been scam. Regarding the specific topic, it's a form of advertising their site. One should know if the advertisement is exagerrated or not. As what OG said, as long as the games on their site are probably fair, and the site has no intention of being scam, everything is fine.
The thing is some people are easy to accuse the site over what they experience (bad side) especially if it's an unknown site or it's know yet not to be trusted when they (these gamblers) themselves doesn't care to research a bit. I don't think I've seen a content in some video platforms about gamblers winning some huge stash just my themselves most of them are really that sponsored (I say most).

I am sticking on the trusted sites and even if they do that kind of advertising I wouldn't mind as long as they pay me if I won on my bets that's fine too.
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The thing is some people are easy to accuse the site over what they experience (bad side) especially if it's an unknown site or it's know yet not to be trusted when they (these gamblers) themselves doesn't care to research a bit. I don't think I've seen a content in some video platforms about gamblers winning some huge stash just my themselves most of them are really that sponsored (I say most).

I am sticking on the trusted sites and even if they do that kind of advertising I wouldn't mind as long as they pay me if I won on my bets that's fine too.

In addition, a history of great victories will always exist. Whether in casinos or anything else. It is up to the person to realize that these events are exceptions and that because they happened to others, it does not mean that they happen again or that they happen to us.

This is the same as someone with a GPU undermining Bitcoin solo. How likely is it to win a reward? Virtually zero. But, even if it is 0.00000001%, it can happen. Despite that, it was an event that can never be repeated, and for that reason, it would not be very intelligent to go running and do the same with the right expectation that I would also achieve. You can try for the spirit of adventure, but you have to try to understand that the most certain thing is never to happen.
 

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