Very immoral marketing strategy.

[Reatim]

Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.

Lol this is gambling industry and everything that will favor a site and they may implement even if this is  a luring with immoral strategy.

You should know that because there are tons of gambling site here that has the same doing.

I am not in favor of what is going on but let us accept the fact that this is a gambling area in which bad action is more than a good one.

if we don't wanna deal with it then best to deny playing .

and besides they are not forcing everyone to bet on the specific sites so still it is your prerogative where and when to bet.

[mindrust]

When you think about it, gambling itself isn't the most moral around so luring people like that ~while it is indeed dishonest~ is not the most harmful thing in the world. This is like having a cafe with customers made of cardboard. As long as the people you lured in don't understand the difference, you are all good. If they realize that you tricked them though, they will probably won't visit your store again. In this situation you got 2 choices:

1- Stop cheating
2- Use better cheats

[traderethereum]

The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

I don't trust these streamers, when promoting casinos or projects related to the investment they are good at making hype and deceiving their viewers from the reality of betting, newbies or new to gambling should take it from honest players that talk straight about the condition and reality of the gambling world because veteran players understand the risk and mentality of new players, they've been to that situation before and they don't want new players to suffer the pain of losing and don not want to have a fake expectations.

I guess, everyone knows already the job of these streamers, to attract more players on the site they are being paid to advertised. So if you know they are being paid, why should you believe what they are endorsing? Fake winnings and all. No one is obliging you to play on their site, they are only banking for gullible users who will be deceived by their misleading fake winnings. So in the end, it is up to the user if he will be attracted by seemingly too-good-to-be-true winnings.

The end point here always matter on what people preferred on why they play on gambling sites since if they are there since they are been hype for  the winnings shown by those streamers then for sure they cannot get a good scenario while playing on the hype site they are on. But if they seek for fun and just there for just interaction only then provably they will not get hurt for situation on it. To good to be true profit show is not true so people should always think about that.

The problem is many people out there still want that too good to be true can come to them but in their hearts, they really know that things were not there.
That streamer is smart to influence their audience and know how to convince them to follow what they say in their video so that makes us think twice, especially if we know that what they say is not always right.
It is difficult to stop them because if we report one of them, the other will come up with different material but have the same point.
If that audience can become wiser about what they watch and not just be attracted because of that video, they will not get the worst thing.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The problem is many people out there still want that too good to be true can come to them but in their hearts, they really know that things were not there.
That streamer is smart to influence their audience and know how to convince them to follow what they say in their video so that makes us think twice, especially if we know that what they say is not always right.
It is difficult to stop them because if we report one of them, the other will come up with different material but have the same point.
If that audience can become wiser about what they watch and not just be attracted because of that video, they will not get the worst thing.

You have said something very true and that many people do not see it or perhaps do not want to see it, and that is that the good thing is not much, that applies to everything, in fact some of that applies to what is currently happening to the NFT games, and particularly with regard to streamers everything works if they are paid well, they are able to sell smoke, however there are some who take the trouble to investigate what the project is about in order to promote it and accept the money.

[BitcoinAccepted]

What's the OP is babbling about? Haven't you heard of anything called promotion or advertisement? That's not an immoral marketing it was designed to attract players but it doesn't mean that it's impossible that it will happen. Anyway most of the gambling sites casino bets can be verified and you shouldn't worry about, I'm not sure why you are frustrated about this probably you just lose a lot of money after watching a gambling stream and tried to win too like what you have watched.

[Betwrong]

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

If you see that they can lose 80-90% of their bankroll, which is thousands of dollars, you should stop and think what bankroll can you afford. So, it can be concluded that in case your bankroll can be only hundreds of dollars, you can easily lose all of it. I personally think that it's not an "immoral marketing strategy", rather it's our wrong conclusions from what we see is what makes us victims.

[Ebede]

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I have seen many cases where the bets are very large and not all the time they win, many high rollers lose too, that It is normal, it is in the statistics, this is not technical, it is luck at 1000%, this is the great thing about gambling.

Gambling is unexpected luck that come from nowhere, you are right because no insurance or statistics that discuss and speak that when you bet in a larger form the case and opportunity of you winning is there.

[Slow death]

well it is known to most people that the youtube guys are selling forex and trading courses, but they are not rich people, and few people ask: why are they selling courses instead of enjoying forex earnings? the answer of course is because they don't earn anything with forex and for that reason they create courses to be earning money.

by that I mean the following:

people shouldn't be following in the footsteps of these streamers guys, people need to study their own strategies and bankroll management. It is illusory to think that someone would take a lot of money and be betting, betting, betting and then winning a lot of money to the point of making profits and then continuing with the same process being that person is a streamers, if he is a streamers he makes streamers to win money, he knows how hard it is to have money, he wouldn't make dangerous bets and people should think about that instead of copying streamers

[delfastTions]

well it is known to most people that the youtube guys are selling forex and trading courses, but they are not rich people, and few people ask: why are they selling courses instead of enjoying forex earnings? the answer of course is because they don't earn anything with forex and for that reason they create courses to be earning money.

Many years ago I also tried to make money on Forex, but even then trading with the help of bots developed so much that it was almost impossible.  
But of course there were always such "teachers" who taught how to place bets correctly.  They introduced themselves as specialists from serious brokerage firms.  And pretty quickly I realized that they were just making money by retelling some of the rules and basics of trading.  And that's all.  
They themselves never play forex because they know they will lose.  But their ad is also very similar to the one the OP wrote.  And I think that this method of advertising is of course immoral, but everyone has long been accustomed to it and is condescending.  The one who is smarter, of course, does not take seriously the happy faces who won the "artists", but probably there are also such naive people who take it for the truth.  And advertising acts on them.

[uneng]

well it is known to most people that the youtube guys are selling forex and trading courses, but they are not rich people, and few people ask: why are they selling courses instead of enjoying forex earnings? the answer of course is because they don't earn anything with forex and for that reason they create courses to be earning money.

What you say makes a lot of sense and the same could be said about streamers from gambling industry. Gamblers who make a living from this activity don't need to share their life following the vlog methodology with the public. Actually, people who earn and deal with big money need to be careful and discreet all the time for their own safety and for the success of their businesses. As the saying goes: the secret is the key to the business.

There is no problem with content creators trying to make some money through views or partneships with casinos, but it should be a must to let it very clear to the audience, so everyone knows what is going on and what are the real intentions of the respective video in exhibition. When nobody feels like being lured or tricked, the marketing campaign works much more efficiently on long run.

[stomachgrowls]

well it is known to most people that the youtube guys are selling forex and trading courses, but they are not rich people, and few people ask: why are they selling courses instead of enjoying forex earnings? the answer of course is because they don't earn anything with forex and for that reason they create courses to be earning money.

What you say makes a lot of sense and the same could be said about streamers from gambling industry. Gamblers who make a living from this activity don't need to share their life following the vlog methodology with the public. Actually, people who earn and deal with big money need to be careful and discreet all the time for their own safety and for the success of their businesses. As the saying goes: the secret is the key to the business.

There is no problem with content creators trying to make some money through views or partneships with casinos, but it should be a must to let it very clear to the audience, so everyone knows what is going on and what are the real intentions of the respective video in exhibition. When nobody feels like being lured or tricked, the marketing campaign works much more efficiently on long run.

If it wasnt working on the first  place then we wont really be seeing it to be used in todays era or situation which we are seeing the opposite.When it comes to marketing then these would be the primary mediums on where companies would allocate some budget on because we are on a digital era
which its sensible for them to have on this method.

It isnt just that ethical if they would really be making those decieving kind of advertisement because they would know that it will really backfire on them.

As for advertisers or influencers had made out their own personal choice on altering something then thats a personal problem of course.

[uneng]

well it is known to most people that the youtube guys are selling forex and trading courses, but they are not rich people, and few people ask: why are they selling courses instead of enjoying forex earnings? the answer of course is because they don't earn anything with forex and for that reason they create courses to be earning money.

What you say makes a lot of sense and the same could be said about streamers from gambling industry. Gamblers who make a living from this activity don't need to share their life following the vlog methodology with the public. Actually, people who earn and deal with big money need to be careful and discreet all the time for their own safety and for the success of their businesses. As the saying goes: the secret is the key to the business.

There is no problem with content creators trying to make some money through views or partneships with casinos, but it should be a must to let it very clear to the audience, so everyone knows what is going on and what are the real intentions of the respective video in exhibition. When nobody feels like being lured or tricked, the marketing campaign works much more efficiently on long run.

If it wasnt working on the first  place then we wont really be seeing it to be used in todays era or situation which we are seeing the opposite.When it comes to marketing then these would be the primary mediums on where companies would allocate some budget on because we are on a digital era
which its sensible for them to have on this method.

It isnt just that ethical if they would really be making those decieving kind of advertisement because they would know that it will really backfire on them.

As for advertisers or influencers had made out their own personal choice on altering something then thats a personal problem of course.

I don't know if this kind of deceiving marketing is really working, because what I most see are lots of criticisms regards them in different threads on this forum and on the internet in general, including the ban imposed by Twitch inside their platform towards gambling content after a massive number of complaints about the mentioned marketing strategy reached to Twitch's managers.

I believe such strategies may work with newbies and naive gamblers, but once these people realize the real nature of the marketing, they will most likely disgust it, and it's not interesting for any casinos to disappoint experienced/veteran gamblers, because these are the ones who most spend money on their platforms.

[worldofcoins]

Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.

I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)

Lol, you mean gambling with Russian roulette?

I'm not in favor of it but if people are going to do that then they'll put all their life's earnings on the table when on 1v1 with another, the winner gets to live and take the money of the other.

In any case, it's immoral and should be prohibited.

[Fortify]

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

It's really pointless watching any streamer that is playing any unskilled games like these. It's one thing watching absolute geniuses playing poker or chess, it's another thing altogether watching someone repeatedly click the same button in order for some sparkly graphics. It's possibly the laziest form of "gaming" in existence and you're definitely right that in most cases all of these streamers will be playing an unfairly rigged version of the game, or simply using money credited to their account so they don't actually lose any money. When it involves making (or as is mostly the case, losing) money then you need to be as skeptical as possible that someone will try to take advantage of you and use all sorts of advertising trickery.

[bitgov]

Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.

I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)

Lol, you mean gambling with Russian roulette?

I'm not in favor of it but if people are going to do that then they'll put all their life's earnings on the table when on 1v1 with another, the winner gets to live and take the money of the other.

In any case, it's immoral and should be prohibited.

Russian roulette is a rather extreme example. In any case, I also think it should be prohibited. .. Of course I know you write about fake streams.

I am surprised that the websites allow this type of practice. Nevertheless, in my opinion it should simply be prohibited by law and everything will be clear.

[Fatunad]

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

It's really pointless watching any streamer that is playing any unskilled games like these. It's one thing watching absolute geniuses playing poker or chess, it's another thing altogether watching someone repeatedly click the same button in order for some sparkly graphics. It's possibly the laziest form of "gaming" in existence and you're definitely right that in most cases all of these streamers will be playing an unfairly rigged version of the game, or simply using money credited to their account so they don't actually lose any money. When it involves making (or as is mostly the case, losing) money then you need to be as skeptical as possible that someone will try to take advantage of you and use all sorts of advertising trickery.

You know that you cant please everybody which it is already expected that there would be still people who would really get interested with these sparkly image on just simply pushing off a button thats why it does still works because t here are still someone who do really believes on that one.

Which is why we should really make use of our common sense whenever we do see these kind of streamers which i dont really see or find interesting on this part.

[delfastTions]

I believe such strategies may work with newbies and naive gamblers, but once these people realize the real nature of the marketing, they will most likely disgust it, and it's not interesting for any casinos to disappoint experienced/veteran gamblers, because these are the ones who most spend money on their platforms.

So it is precisely such novice players and simply naive people that this advertisement is designed for.  These are the players who bring the most profit, since they almost always lose. 
Look, for example, how many naive teenagers there are in the world who have just seen such an advertisement, and their age already allows them to gamble themselves.  It is on such that these are designed, as the OP correctly notes, immoral ways of advertising.

[Naficopa]

I believe such strategies may work with newbies and naive gamblers, but once these people realize the real nature of the marketing, they will most likely disgust it, and it's not interesting for any casinos to disappoint experienced/veteran gamblers, because these are the ones who most spend money on their platforms.

So it is precisely such novice players and simply naive people that this advertisement is designed for.  These are the players who bring the most profit, since they almost always lose. 
Look, for example, how many naive teenagers there are in the world who have just seen such an advertisement, and their age already allows them to gamble themselves.  It is on such that these are designed, as the OP correctly notes, immoral ways of advertising.

I also think that age in this case is the most important. After all, someone who has no experience and will see how "easy" it is to win money, the first thing they do is just register and deposit, and then of course a loss.
I think that this type of advertising should only be shown to registered users and within the allowed age.

[Desmong]

Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.

I think that's cool, but for me it's non of the op business. Everyone chooses what they want and which direction they want to go in as much as no body force them. We all need to understand that the internet especially the social media is full of lies and untrue stories , so whosoever becomes brainwashed from what they see on the internet so there own problem. We need to be guided although and I'm not in any way supporting the act of fluencing people mindset I'm a dishonest manner.

[Pamadar]

I believe such strategies may work with newbies and naive gamblers, but once these people realize the real nature of the marketing, they will most likely disgust it, and it's not interesting for any casinos to disappoint experienced/veteran gamblers, because these are the ones who most spend money on their platforms.

So it is precisely such novice players and simply naive people that this advertisement is designed for.  These are the players who bring the most profit, since they almost always lose. 
Look, for example, how many naive teenagers there are in the world who have just seen such an advertisement, and their age already allows them to gamble themselves.  It is on such that these are designed, as the OP correctly notes, immoral ways of advertising.

They are mostly the victims of this kind of advertisement.

the sole target of marketing, those kinds of people who are unaware of those stuff are the one that bring decent profits inside the house,
it's designed to bring people's interest hoping to do the same.

Without proper knowledge of what they are dealing with, they will lose money and continue repeating the same thing.