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January 03, 2022, 05:05:37 PM
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They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.
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January 04, 2022, 10:45:54 AM
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I see nothing immoral there either. Basically, in those videos you can see what might happen when this or that slot was played. I mean it would be immoral if they were editing their videos to make it look like they were winning big amounts while in reality it never happened. But they never do that kind of stuff. They are showing real spins, and that's why I like to watch such videos, but of course I know the probability of that happening to me, so I don't expect winning 20,000x within an hour of playing. It can happen, but most likely it will not.

But these videos DO exaggerate the ease of which big wins can be obtained, because the streamers play in a way that maximizes their chances of getting the jackpot without any consideration of how much money they lose in the process - because it's not their money!

I'm not completely sure about it. I mean, it's a fact that streamers are paid by gambling sites, but the mechanism is unknown to me. For instance, apart from their salary, they can be given $10k(or $100k, depending on the level of the streamer) to play slots on a platform, and whatever they win with that goes to their pocket, something like freebets, only without wagering requirement. In that case they would act more naturally when winning big or losing a lot. I think that's how it's done, but I'm not sure about it.

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January 04, 2022, 01:25:40 PM
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Common sense is the real deal but other people do really make things tolerable on where they do let their greed control or overcome them which would really result into messing up your finances because you do gamble

out and had been fooled on playing for long time and believing that you could make profits just like on what that influencer did or able to attain.When it comes to fairness then i wont really be having no complaints
into those sites which are fair and reputable or known ones.

Marketing is part and even if its on deceptive part then you should know on how to make out decisions according to that.

You need to always keep your guard up, influencer are there to promote sites and how they were doing it is their strategy.

if you failed to work things the right way, expect the outcome will heat negatively, but if you
make it the right way. The chance of enjoying and taking some decent amount are there waiting for you.

It's needed to separate your greed from yourself when playing inside the gambling house, emotionless
gambling practices may give you some room to breathe..

There are many strategies that are very immoral, especially influencers, there is an influencer who is a YouTuber, and that YouTuber has promoted many NFT games that have turned out to be scam, and the truth is that he does not make a correction, he simply promotes the site because the best they pay him, and he does not care about anything, in fact he is a Spanish YouTuber who has a large audience, but how to trust an influencer who is only interested in the money they pay him for making a video promoting scams? I honestly stopped following it because I thought it was serious, but money does totally eliminate the ethics of anyone who has no criteria.

They might be popular today but there would be coming into a point that those subscribers or followers would definitely be doing the opposite or simply unfollow or unsubscribe specially if they do realize that they had just been fooled out and in result on lots of losses just because you do follow on what they are recommending specially with NFT's which would be similar on gambling also where these influencers wouldnt really care
about their viewers condition in terms of finances as long they do get paid and that what counts. Ethics or something connected to it wont really be seen on these circumstances.

You are right, currently some people are not aware of what it means to have professional ethics, and it is unfortunate because I know that on YouTube and on many other platforms it is given that to get followers and loyal subscribers it is a matter of falling in love and if a disappointment occurs it is simply they will go, and it is not possible that so much effort will change it for a few dollars that it can help any YouTuber at any given time and not always, those who still maintain their credibility will always have their subscribers with the option to get more, but if you do not take care to your community will simply die and that is unfortunate.

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January 04, 2022, 01:26:03 PM
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They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.
For some casinos, that can be a way to get more visitors to their site because the audience will see how much money that promoter can win. It will make them feel that they can do that as the promoter did. The casino will not think about immoral and not mislead the information because they do what they want. It is like a strategy from the casino to get attention from the audience, especially if they can hire a promoter who can play good acting in front of their audience.

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January 04, 2022, 01:52:49 PM
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Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid  reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Of course, for people who know what gambling is and how it works, these videos aren't really needed. Personally, I haven't seen any of them, because I'm not even interested in it. The problem is that newbies, and above all very young people, think that everything is happening for real and that winning a large amount is so easy. This leads them to trying for themselves and most often they are losing all their money very quickly.
But the main problem here is that OP is pointing only to specific gambling site when the truth is almost every gambling site in crypto has this same strategy in luring players, or some are more worst while of course there are also that cleans.
what I am pointing here is that if he really wanted to create noise in this case then best to mention all the gambling site that has Immoral marketing strategy and not only the one above.

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January 06, 2022, 07:29:28 AM
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Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid  reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Of course, for people who know what gambling is and how it works, these videos aren't really needed. Personally, I haven't seen any of them, because I'm not even interested in it. The problem is that newbies, and above all very young people, think that everything is happening for real and that winning a large amount is so easy. This leads them to trying for themselves and most often they are losing all their money very quickly.
But the main problem here is that OP is pointing only to specific gambling site when the truth is almost every gambling site in crypto has this same strategy in luring players, or some are more worst while of course there are also that cleans.
what I am pointing here is that if he really wanted to create noise in this case then best to mention all the gambling site that has Immoral marketing strategy and not only the one above.
If the laws of the country in whose jurisdiction this or that gambling site is not prohibited to advertise services in some immoral way, then of course this is used by specific casinos.  Moreover, I think that they can do advertising in the form of such a "borderline", when its immorality may well be challenged by experienced lawyers in case someone decides to sue the advertising manufacturer or the casino itself. 
This is especially true, of course, in cases where, because of such advertisements, young people lose a lot or even become gambling addicts.

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January 06, 2022, 04:08:07 PM
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Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid  reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Of course, for people who know what gambling is and how it works, these videos aren't really needed. Personally, I haven't seen any of them, because I'm not even interested in it. The problem is that newbies, and above all very young people, think that everything is happening for real and that winning a large amount is so easy. This leads them to trying for themselves and most often they are losing all their money very quickly.
But the main problem here is that OP is pointing only to specific gambling site when the truth is almost every gambling site in crypto has this same strategy in luring players, or some are more worst while of course there are also that cleans.
what I am pointing here is that if he really wanted to create noise in this case then best to mention all the gambling site that has Immoral marketing strategy and not only the one above.
If the laws of the country in whose jurisdiction this or that gambling site is not prohibited to advertise services in some immoral way, then of course this is used by specific casinos.  Moreover, I think that they can do advertising in the form of such a "borderline", when its immorality may well be challenged by experienced lawyers in case someone decides to sue the advertising manufacturer or the casino itself. 
This is especially true, of course, in cases where, because of such advertisements, young people lose a lot or even become gambling addicts.
It will be more cases that we do not know about immoral marketing strategies. I think that is happening not just in the gambling industry but also in other businesses. The business owner wants to attract many more people to come to their business and spend their money so that they can make a big profit from them. It is not easy to stop people from watching that advertisement because those things can appear in many places and their target is people who do not have control over themselves. So it is about how we can prevent ourselves from what we think is immoral so we do not get in their trap. I am sure many more types of marketing strategies that will be more immoral from what we have already seen.

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January 06, 2022, 04:47:43 PM
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They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.
I agree. It is just a part of their marketing strategy or tricks. And because they are paid streamer/promoter they need to convince and get the attention of the viewers. It tricks the audiences into thinking there chances of winning big than they are.And it is all up to you if you're going to gamble or not.
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January 06, 2022, 06:51:00 PM
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They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.
I agree. It is just a part of their marketing strategy or tricks. And because they are paid streamer/promoter they need to convince and get the attention of the viewers. It tricks the audiences into thinking there chances of winning big than they are.And it is all up to you if you're going to gamble or not.

In fact, it is only a feeling.
That is caused by high bet amounts and constant refilling of the balance.
A normal average person can not play in such a way, because eventually the money runs out.

It is quite dangerous to watch such streams if you are not aware of the fact that the only purpose for yourself should be entertainment and gambling still has to do with luck.

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January 06, 2022, 07:59:20 PM
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They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.
I agree. It is just a part of their marketing strategy or tricks. And because they are paid streamer/promoter they need to convince and get the attention of the viewers. It tricks the audiences into thinking there chances of winning big than they are.And it is all up to you if you're going to gamble or not.

In fact, it is only a feeling.
That is caused by high bet amounts and constant refilling of the balance.
A normal average person can not play in such a way, because eventually the money runs out.

It is quite dangerous to watch such streams if you are not aware of the fact that the only purpose for yourself should be entertainment and gambling still has to do with luck.
If you do make yourself get blinded about on whats reality then you would really be believing that those fellas are really spending out money out from their pocket which is totally a different scenario.
Think realistic because they wont be spending out much money in front of lots of people and do you see something odd that most of these influencers do really win up money or in their games?
Dont know if its really that fair or something im confident on telling that they do mostly win up and i dont know if its intentional or simply they are just lucky.

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January 06, 2022, 08:01:38 PM
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It's one thing to do a paid promotion through a promotor... but to lie and act like it is their own money they are gambling with.. It's not only immorally wrong, it's possibly illegal depending what jurisdiction the streamer is in.

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They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.

It's an amazing paradox that this new breed of social media "influencers" live in - they will sell out everything possible on their journey for fame, I guess that's how it's worked for all sorts of celebrities in the past. Unless they come from a fairly rich background already, in which case they have a small chance of not being insufferable but many upbringings are ruined by wealth. So yes, they will be willing to accept any bribes or advertising trickery if it helps fund their stay at home lifestyle and fully endorse the fakery that advertisers need them to push. In many cases they will even rationalize it to themselves in a variety of ways, the most basic being - someone else will take the money on offer if they don't.

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January 06, 2022, 10:16:15 PM
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It's one thing to do a paid promotion through a promotor... but to lie and act like it is their own money they are gambling with.. It's not only immorally wrong, it's possibly illegal depending what jurisdiction the streamer is in.

I think these types of marketing tricks should be regulated by law. I have not heard of it being forbidden anywhere. However, it should definitely be regulated at least to make sure that the person who will watch the stream is informed that it is a promotional video and not a real game.

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January 06, 2022, 10:26:07 PM
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It's one thing to do a paid promotion through a promotor... but to lie and act like it is their own money they are gambling with.. It's not only immorally wrong, it's possibly illegal depending what jurisdiction the streamer is in.

I think these types of marketing tricks should be regulated by law. I have not heard of it being forbidden anywhere. However, it should definitely be regulated at least to make sure that the person who will watch the stream is informed that it is a promotional video and not a real game.
Well it has always been expected that there is a trick from the streamer and it should always be doubtful about it when they are using a huge fund.
I think that is right, considering this is illegal because it seems you are misleading people to the fact that you are taking advance their weakness, they think that the streamer and willing to lose a huge amount and gain profit. Perhaps they are desperate on their strategy, and a marketing strategy like this should be banned in any viewing video platforms.









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January 06, 2022, 10:52:43 PM
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It's one thing to do a paid promotion through a promotor... but to lie and act like it is their own money they are gambling with.. It's not only immorally wrong, it's possibly illegal depending what jurisdiction the streamer is in.
As long as they are not saying it openly they are not commiting anything wrong from the legal perspective but it can be immorally wrong but why does someone choose to spend their money because they saw a streamer is making tons of money by doing the same, which is actually greed driven activity right so those streamers are using the people's greed to make money for them.

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It's one thing to do a paid promotion through a promotor... but to lie and act like it is their own money they are gambling with.. It's not only immorally wrong, it's possibly illegal depending what jurisdiction the streamer is in.

I think these types of marketing tricks should be regulated by law. I have not heard of it being forbidden anywhere. However, it should definitely be regulated at least to make sure that the person who will watch the stream is informed that it is a promotional video and not a real game.
Well it has always been expected that there is a trick from the streamer and it should always be doubtful about it when they are using a huge fund.
I think that is right, considering this is illegal because it seems you are misleading people to the fact that you are taking advance their weakness, they think that the streamer and willing to lose a huge amount and gain profit. Perhaps they are desperate on their strategy, and a marketing strategy like this should be banned in any viewing video platforms.

Unfortunately, it will not be easy to completely ban such streams. Casinos can create these types of videos as an instruction for new users, and this is definitely legal. The point is for someone who watches to know that the person who is playing not for real money and winning is not real. If someone thinks that you can win a lot of money in such an easy way, he will certainly want to try, unfortunately in reality it is not that simple and it is unethical in my opinion.

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January 06, 2022, 11:01:04 PM
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It's one thing to do a paid promotion through a promotor... but to lie and act like it is their own money they are gambling with.. It's not only immorally wrong, it's possibly illegal depending what jurisdiction the streamer is in.
As long as they are not saying it openly they are not commiting anything wrong from the legal perspective but it can be immorally wrong but why does someone choose to spend their money because they saw a streamer is making tons of money by doing the same, which is actually greed driven activity right so those streamers are using the people's greed to make money for them.
They can lie to make money, all they care about is the legality, as long as they are safe on the legal side they can do what the promoter would like them to talk and promote, that's why it's hard to trust those who are promoting online, I would still prefer a forum like ours as we can see the transparency we are looking, no bias opinion will prevail and etc.

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January 06, 2022, 11:45:42 PM
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It's one thing to do a paid promotion through a promotor... but to lie and act like it is their own money they are gambling with.. It's not only immorally wrong, it's possibly illegal depending what jurisdiction the streamer is in.
As long as they are not saying it openly they are not commiting anything wrong from the legal perspective but it can be immorally wrong but why does someone choose to spend their money because they saw a streamer is making tons of money by doing the same, which is actually greed driven activity right so those streamers are using the people's greed to make money for them.
They can lie to make money, all they care about is the legality, as long as they are safe on the legal side they can do what the promoter would like them to talk and promote, that's why it's hard to trust those who are promoting online, I would still prefer a forum like ours as we can see the transparency we are looking, no bias opinion will prevail and etc.
They wouldnt really care at all and its true that as long they dont make some legal lapses or violation then it would really still to continue since they do know that theres nothing that would happen to them despite of

being that deceptive in terms of marketing as long on whats been mandated on them then they would surely follow as long they do make out money then that what matter the most.

As a gambler or viewer then you should be at least using your own common sense on judging off things.
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January 07, 2022, 08:10:56 PM
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It's one thing to do a paid promotion through a promotor... but to lie and act like it is their own money they are gambling with.. It's not only immorally wrong, it's possibly illegal depending what jurisdiction the streamer is in.
As long as they are not saying it openly they are not commiting anything wrong from the legal perspective but it can be immorally wrong but why does someone choose to spend their money because they saw a streamer is making tons of money by doing the same, which is actually greed driven activity right so those streamers are using the people's greed to make money for them.
They can lie to make money, all they care about is the legality, as long as they are safe on the legal side they can do what the promoter would like them to talk and promote, that's why it's hard to trust those who are promoting online, I would still prefer a forum like ours as we can see the transparency we are looking, no bias opinion will prevail and etc.
We shouldn't trust anybody for any reason, we can get the opinions from them and do the same with different people so if you are getting more positive response on average then its actually a good site but highly influenced by someone's popularity is just the stupidity.

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January 07, 2022, 09:17:12 PM
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They wouldnt really care at all and its true that as long they dont make some legal lapses or violation then it would really still to continue since they do know that theres nothing that would happen to them despite of

being that deceptive in terms of marketing as long on whats been mandated on them then they would surely follow as long they do make out money then that what matter the most.

As a gambler or viewer then you should be at least using your own common sense on judging off things.

I think that there are actually legal issues surrounding these streamers.

E.g. they seem to be operating from the U.S. when gambling in the U.S. on these sites is actually forbidden.

Plus, it is forbidden for services like Roobet to offer their product to U.S. citizens. Given that they are directly sponsoring these streamers there could be an even deeper hole there.

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