Very immoral marketing strategy.

[traderethereum]

Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

I doubt if they even noticed anyone trying to explain it to them. After all, they themselves invented this method of marketing. I think marketing teams are opening champagne celebrating the success of their idea. As long as it is not regulated by law, they will never give up on it.

Give up? They can never give up because they are making consistent project from it and I know in the next five to ten years coming, they will be crazy influencers who will be ready to do anything for money, even to tell us that res is white even when it's obvious. This is why the internet is their we enquires about anything we are looking for.

We already know how they work, so it will not surprise us how they will still use the same method with some modification to convince potential customers.
Besides that, those influencers did their jobs using their channel, but some do not remind their audience to be careful when playing gambling.
I am afraid that we can not stop those influencers, even if we report what they did to the providers, because they may not block their accounts. After all, those influencers also profit the provider.
So it is our duty always to filter what we see from the influencer and not just follow what they say before we research furthermore.

[Betwrong]

Immoral or not, it depends on how we see it. There are laws prohibiting unfair or deceptive practices in advertisement, but they are different in different countries. And is showing your real wins on slots unfair or deceptive? I don't think so. As with any other advertisement, it is we who can make it harmful for us, not the ad itself. Ads are annoying sometimes, and in other times they make us buy unnecessary things, but the world would be less funny without them. And these big wins on slots, in particular, some of them are really fun to watch.

That simply talks about money and even it was immoral, they let it happen as it was paid already. It is sometimes to think that was too unfair, yes, it was but have less possibility that we can change the nature of this place. Then rather we saying it was too unfair, too immoral, maybe it was best to ignore them than be a big deal to it.

It is actually annoying when we heard such complaints but can't just put blame on them(ads) alone, we do it for ourselves then for listening and choosing them.

It is always our fault and not anyone's else that we are so greedy that we are ready to believe that we are necessarily going to win like those guys in the vids. We don't want to think about how much money they were risking, how many times they were losing before that big win etc., we just want to win like them right away. It is no wonder we are disappointed and broke, more often than not, following those expectations.

[Xiongli123]

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

I don't think this should be stopped. I think everyone has to think on their own about what they do and what are the consequences of their steps. Well, if you see a monkey jumping in front of the cam creating an illusion of winning hot money in the casino, you should be aware that in the casino you can either lose it. You will cool down the milk after having burnt your tongue, isn't it? If someone else burns their tongue, you will believe but think that you will not have your tongue burnt even if you drink a boiled milk:) The same is with those jumping monkeys. If you are an 18+ aged person, you should think about what you do and about all the consequences of your behavior. If not, well, you still need your mom to make your bed:)

Immoral or not, it depends on how we see it. There are laws prohibiting unfair or deceptive practices in advertisement, but they are different in different countries. And is showing your real wins on slots unfair or deceptive? I don't think so. As with any other advertisement, it is we who can make it harmful for us, not the ad itself. Ads are annoying sometimes, and in other times they make us buy unnecessary things, but the world would be less funny without them. And these big wins on slots, in particular, some of them are really fun to watch.

That simply talks about money and even it was immoral, they let it happen as it was paid already. It is sometimes to think that was too unfair, yes, it was but have less possibility that we can change the nature of this place. Then rather we saying it was too unfair, too immoral, maybe it was best to ignore them than be a big deal to it.

It is actually annoying when we heard such complaints but can't just put blame on them(ads) alone, we do it for ourselves then for listening and choosing them.

It is always our fault and not anyone's else that we are so greedy that we are ready to believe that we are necessarily going to win like those guys in the vids. We don't want to think about how much money they were risking, how many times they were losing before that big win etc., we just want to win like them right away. It is no wonder we are disappointed and broke, more often than not, following those expectations.

Agree with you. If you see a person crossing the road in the wrong place and we do the same and hit the car, should we blame that person? If you try to stop it, this will never stop. If you let it go with no attention at all, this will stop on its own.

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[Desmong]

We already know how they work, so it will not surprise us how they will still use the same method with some modification to convince potential customers.
Besides that, those influencers did their jobs using their channel, but some do not remind their audience to be careful when playing gambling.
I am afraid that we can not stop those influencers, even if we report what they did to the providers, because they may not block their accounts. After all, those influencers also profit the provider.
So it is our duty always to filter what we see from the influencer and not just follow what they say before we research furthermore.

When it comes in marketing we can’t stop them especially if they were able to attract customers in what they do. As long as it’s not against the law they can do what is best for their marketing. It’s our choice what we can do when we gamble. We must learn to analyze and weight the possibilities that the casino can have a problem. And when we start to gamble we need to assure ourselves that we know what we are doing no matter how amaze we are when they do ads.

Marketing is marketing whether you do it in your own way or not. The problem is the advertising in the most cruel manner. Although I don't have to blame anyone here because we'll responsible for our own decisions and what so ever goes wrong is our own fault. I have lost huge amount of dollars at the wrong project just because of influence from high profile men and lack of my ability to do thorough research.

[Fortify]

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

The annoying part about all this is that these streamers try to hide their activities. They would probably still get a beneficial number of new signups to whatever service they want to advertise if they were totally upfront and disclosed what they were doing. People love following these so-called influencers and streamers, they'll often overlook explicit and blatant warnings if they get to copy whatever their fan favorite is doing at the moment. It would also help these people and the casinos they are promoting because they'd be able to show that they clearly warn new users of any risks involved. There are a lot of silly and wasteful people out there who are bad with money, somebody is going to "help them" spend it unfortunately.

[Desmong]

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

The annoying part about all this is that these streamers try to hide their activities. They would probably still get a beneficial number of new signups to whatever service they want to advertise if they were totally upfront and disclosed what they were doing. People love following these so-called influencers and streamers, they'll often overlook explicit and blatant warnings if they get to copy whatever their fan favorite is doing at the moment. It would also help these people and the casinos they are promoting because they'd be able to show that they clearly warn new users of any risks involved. There are a lot of silly and wasteful people out there who are bad with money, somebody is going to "help them" spend it unfortunately.

I thought they used to place a warning write up telling people that what they are saying is just for the purpose of advertising and that nobody should take them serious because it's not a financial advise. The warning is obvious and is very clear but many persons still don't understand what that means. Although they are showing us that so that will might not end up sueing them. Don't you think they need our money to grow rich?

[bitgov]

I thought they used to place a warning write up telling people that what they are saying is just for the purpose of advertising and that nobody should take them serious because it's not a financial advise. The warning is obvious and is very clear but many persons still don't understand what that means. Although they are showing us that so that will might not end up sueing them. Don't you think they need our money to grow rich?

The point is that there are no warnings anywhere that the game we watch on video or stream is for fake money.
Of course, are shown in public the videos in which someone wins. A person who has no gambling experience when watching something like this thinks winning is very easy. If he can be persuaded to make a deposit, he usually loses everything. That's why it's so dangerous.

[stomachgrowls]

I thought they used to place a warning write up telling people that what they are saying is just for the purpose of advertising and that nobody should take them serious because it's not a financial advise. The warning is obvious and is very clear but many persons still don't understand what that means. Although they are showing us that so that will might not end up sueing them. Don't you think they need our money to grow rich?

The point is that there are no warnings anywhere that the game we watch on video or stream is for fake money.
Of course, are shown in public the videos in which someone wins. A person who has no gambling experience when watching something like this thinks winning is very easy. If he can be persuaded to make a deposit, he usually loses everything. That's why it's so dangerous.

Most common scenario is that these influencers does have that unlimited fund that they do have into their gambling accounts which means that betting would be sky is the limit
and when  they do hit up big multipliers then of course the winning would really be big on which it could really poke up someones interest on playing too
and this is how marketing works.

Viewers wouldnt really mind on how much that player had lost when they do play up and since theyre been funded then betting behavior would be totally different.

Fairness can be seen though and you could spot out for experienced players but for noobs then everything would be plain and simple.

[Cryptock]

Most common scenario is that these influencers does have that unlimited fund that they do have into their gambling accounts which means that betting would be sky is the limit
and when  they do hit up big multipliers then of course the winning would really be big on which it could really poke up someones interest on playing too
and this is how marketing works.

Viewers wouldnt really mind on how much that player had lost when they do play up and since theyre been funded then betting behavior would be totally different.

Fairness can be seen though and you could spot out for experienced players but for noobs then everything would be plain and simple.

It doesn't matter if it's a live stream with an unlimited account or a video.
I am sure that it is no problem for the casino to create an account where the deposits look like real, which is really a demo mode. It is even easier on video, because they can publish only parts in which someone only wins.
Either way, it is a very effective trap for young people who have never played in a real casino before.

[TelolettOm]

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely you will find the same pattern all over again and again.

It can be one of their promotion or advertisement? We have seen this kind of trick several times and always very interesting, moreover for newbies who are really interested in money. They will not think twice about the reality of the slots.
And about how they promote, I think that they will not care about what they are doing, one thing that they only consider is getting and gaining more and more users to their platforms.
Moreover, it is about slots or gambling platforms, who care about that?
I also always notice my friends or family not to be interested in that kind of advertisement because they are sometimes too sweet, but exactly very intriguing.

[arwin100]

Most common scenario is that these influencers does have that unlimited fund that they do have into their gambling accounts which means that betting would be sky is the limit
and when  they do hit up big multipliers then of course the winning would really be big on which it could really poke up someones interest on playing too
and this is how marketing works.

Viewers wouldnt really mind on how much that player had lost when they do play up and since theyre been funded then betting behavior would be totally different.

Fairness can be seen though and you could spot out for experienced players but for noobs then everything would be plain and simple.

It doesn't matter if it's a live stream with an unlimited account or a video.
I am sure that it is no problem for the casino to create an account where the deposits look like real, which is really a demo mode. It is even easier on video, because they can publish only parts in which someone only wins.
Either way, it is a very effective trap for young people who have never played in a real casino before.

This is somehow effective marketing method since it can describe easily on how their game works and there's no problem with it since they are just doing there job and if they show negativity then for sure they will not get good result for their business so its up for people on how they take those videos they see since if they live up on their fantasy to get rich easily by playing on gambling and follow what they see then they will have a problem with that.

[rodskee]

Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

I doubt if they even noticed anyone trying to explain it to them. After all, they themselves invented this method of marketing. I think marketing teams are opening champagne celebrating the success of their idea. As long as it is not regulated by law, they will never give up on it.

this is how business moves now because the marketing team is looking for everything in which can attract more costumers .
so whatever they do it is still depend in the costumer if they will not be careful to enter.
so Immoral or not? it is your mistake if you become a victim from this kind of luring.
just stay away from not legit gambling site because that will save your asses in scamming and cheating .

[pinggoki]

The point is that there are no warnings anywhere that the game we watch on video or stream is for fake money.
Of course, are shown in public the videos in which someone wins. A person who has no gambling experience when watching something like this thinks winning is very easy. If he can be persuaded to make a deposit, he usually loses everything. That's why it's so dangerous.

You should always assume that when you are seeing a streamer or an online personality being sponsored, that they're taken care of and that they already have games in the bag because the sponsors want them to win and create the illusion that you can do it too. It's not new and advertisements are meant to deceive after all, I mean the 50s introduced cigarettes as a medical paraphernalia by advertising.

[joker_josue]

Many of us here are saying that these strategies are not correct. But, most of those who post here have advertising for the bookmaker in their signature.

Of course it's different. We, with our signatures, are not fooling anyone, nor saying that we have won this or that, we are just announcing a bookmaker.

It is up to each one to do their analysis and choose what to do.

[traderethereum]

We already know how they work, so it will not surprise us how they will still use the same method with some modification to convince potential customers.
Besides that, those influencers did their jobs using their channel, but some do not remind their audience to be careful when playing gambling.
I am afraid that we can not stop those influencers, even if we report what they did to the providers, because they may not block their accounts. After all, those influencers also profit the provider.
So it is our duty always to filter what we see from the influencer and not just follow what they say before we research furthermore.

When it comes in marketing we can’t stop them especially if they were able to attract customers in what they do. As long as it’s not against the law they can do what is best for their marketing. It’s our choice what we can do when we gamble. We must learn to analyze and weight the possibilities that the casino can have a problem. And when we start to gamble we need to assure ourselves that we know what we are doing no matter how amaze we are when they do ads.

You are right because they can use many marketing strategies and ways to attract customers and badly, many of them do not read or search for more info about them so we see they are getting scammed because of using a bad casino.
Many exciting advertisements the casino can do, but we do not have to visit them if we find something suspicious to prevent something bad from happening to us.
We must do it because we do not want to play gambling in scam casinos, even if they can do the best marketing out there to attract customers.
We should react normally and not be amazed at what they offer because many casinos can do that.

[Betwrong]

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It is always our fault and not anyone's else that we are so greedy that we are ready to believe that we are necessarily going to win like those guys in the vids. We don't want to think about how much money they were risking, how many times they were losing before that big win etc., we just want to win like them right away. It is no wonder we are disappointed and broke, more often than not, following those expectations.

Agree with you. If you see a person crossing the road in the wrong place and we do the same and hit the car, should we blame that person? If you try to stop it, this will never stop. If you let it go with no attention at all, this will stop on its own.

I wouldn't dramatize it like that. Firstly, losing your balance on a gambling site is nothing close to be hit by the car. Secondly, those video bloggers are not "crossing the road in the wrong place" when playing slots and streaming the game. If you have not more than you can afford to lose on your balance, nothing terrible can happen to you. My point is, you can even try to mimic those streamers just for the fun of it, but you should do it an amount you afford to lose, that's all.

[cryptogirl100]

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It is always our fault and not anyone's else that we are so greedy that we are ready to believe that we are necessarily going to win like those guys in the vids. We don't want to think about how much money they were risking, how many times they were losing before that big win etc., we just want to win like them right away. It is no wonder we are disappointed and broke, more often than not, following those expectations.

Agree with you. If you see a person crossing the road in the wrong place and we do the same and hit the car, should we blame that person? If you try to stop it, this will never stop. If you let it go with no attention at all, this will stop on its own.

I wouldn't dramatize it like that. Firstly, losing your balance on a gambling site is nothing close to be hit by the car. Secondly, those video bloggers are not "crossing the road in the wrong place" when playing slots and streaming the game. If you have not more than you can afford to lose on your balance, nothing terrible can happen to you. My point is, you can even try to mimic those streamers just for the fun of it, but you should do it an amount you afford to lose, that's all.

Great point! Whatever you do with your balance, you should always stick to your budget! You can lose it in one single round of your fav pokie or you can sip it stretching the pleasure of gambling. Whatever. But you should always keep in mind that your budget is not an unlimited stream.

[cyberdrake]

We already know how they work, so it will not surprise us how they will still use the same method with some modification to convince potential customers.
Besides that, those influencers did their jobs using their channel, but some do not remind their audience to be careful when playing gambling.
I am afraid that we can not stop those influencers, even if we report what they did to the providers, because they may not block their accounts. After all, those influencers also profit the provider.
So it is our duty always to filter what we see from the influencer and not just follow what they say before we research furthermore.

When it comes in marketing we can’t stop them especially if they were able to attract customers in what they do. As long as it’s not against the law they can do what is best for their marketing. It’s our choice what we can do when we gamble. We must learn to analyze and weight the possibilities that the casino can have a problem. And when we start to gamble we need to assure ourselves that we know what we are doing no matter how amaze we are when they do ads.

You are right because they can use many marketing strategies and ways to attract customers and badly, many of them do not read or search for more info about them so we see they are getting scammed because of using a bad casino.
Many exciting advertisements the casino can do, but we do not have to visit them if we find something suspicious to prevent something bad from happening to us.
We must do it because we do not want to play gambling in scam casinos, even if they can do the best marketing out there to attract customers.
We should react normally and not be amazed at what they offer because many casinos can do that.

I thought the same way about casinos a couple of years ago, but things have changed. You can't win it all because of the RTP level. And casinos know this. That's why most of those gambling sites patiently wait for you to lose money there. They don't need to scam you. Moreover, I have played in an online casino that was recommended by one of my friends that (I realized this later on this forum) was a kind of a blacklisted one for "scamming" people. I managed to withdraw all my winnings from there even before I knew that that was a "scam" casino. My verdict, I don't think that there are "scam" casinos. Those are stories that are told by those guys who lost their money for some reason or have seen their accounts blocked for breaking some casino rules. We often start playing by simply checking the checkbox with casino policies and T&Cs without giving even a couple of minutes to go through the document and to see what we are allowed to do there and what is restricted. With this in mind, yes, many casinos do aggressive marketing. Many affiliates do aggressive marketing because this is their business. If you start playing at a particular casino, you should understand that your longterm odds are negative.

[derrole]

We already know how they work, so it will not surprise us how they will still use the same method with some modification to convince potential customers.
Besides that, those influencers did their jobs using their channel, but some do not remind their audience to be careful when playing gambling.
I am afraid that we can not stop those influencers, even if we report what they did to the providers, because they may not block their accounts. After all, those influencers also profit the provider.
So it is our duty always to filter what we see from the influencer and not just follow what they say before we research furthermore.

When it comes in marketing we can’t stop them especially if they were able to attract customers in what they do. As long as it’s not against the law they can do what is best for their marketing. It’s our choice what we can do when we gamble. We must learn to analyze and weight the possibilities that the casino can have a problem. And when we start to gamble we need to assure ourselves that we know what we are doing no matter how amaze we are when they do ads.

Marketing is marketing whether you do it in your own way or not. The problem is the advertising in the most cruel manner. Although I don't have to blame anyone here because we'll responsible for our own decisions and what so ever goes wrong is our own fault. I have lost huge amount of dollars at the wrong project just because of influence from high profile men and lack of my ability to do thorough research.

I think this should be regulated somehow. I don't mean this type of ad should be banned, but this should be regulated in a more strict manner like Forex ads for instance. When you join any Forex broker, you will see these warnings about the high risks of losses and all this related stuff. Moreover, their affiliates are obliged to warn users about all risks involved. This the way I think this should work.

[dbc23]

Every promoter has their own strategy and they would never force anyone to wager their funds. Adverts is always a choice what you should be more concerned about is encouraging discipline in newbies other than finding faults it's their very channel and the have the full license to operate which ever way they choose.