Very immoral marketing strategy.

[johhnyUA]

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago 
Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls 
And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

[DoublerHunter]

Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

The streamers always have the disclaimer that play at your own risk. If anyone copies the streamers and they lose in this process, the streamers cannot be blamed because he has already told people that the stream is for entertainment purposes also. I understand that viewers may get addicted but then the risk is entirely on the viewers who try to copy the streamers.

^ Probably for those people that did not a part of our community will follow those streamers strategies but when it comes to using it will not have an effect because we know that streamers are only advertising on youtube for only entertainment purposes and the fund use has come from sponsorship and I think that way we know how to set limit. We understand if there is a casino that actively has streaming on Youtube for marketing strategy, of course, they doing this for their business purpose only and as a player, we should also be aware of this and moderately gamble.

[Betwrong]

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago 
Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls 
And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

We are not having one supreme leader for all countries around the world, so regulations can be different in different places, and, I'm pretty, sure, there will always be countries with no regulations at all. I mean, we can't count on regulations to come one day and save us, because this may never happen. We have to save ourselves through our own means, and we have to it today. It's easy: don't watch those videos if you feel vulnerable.

[kspro]

I thought the same way about casinos a couple of years ago, but things have changed. You can't win it all because of the RTP level. And casinos know this. That's why most of those gambling sites patiently wait for you to lose money there. They don't need to scam you. Moreover, I have played in an online casino that was recommended by one of my friends that (I realized this later on this forum) was a kind of a blacklisted one for "scamming" people. I managed to withdraw all my winnings from there even before I knew that that was a "scam" casino. My verdict, I don't think that there are "scam" casinos. Those are stories that are told by those guys who lost their money for some reason or have seen their accounts blocked for breaking some casino rules. We often start playing by simply checking the checkbox with casino policies and T&Cs without giving even a couple of minutes to go through the document and to see what we are allowed to do there and what is restricted. With this in mind, yes, many casinos do aggressive marketing. Many affiliates do aggressive marketing because this is their business. If you start playing at a particular casino, you should understand that your longterm odds are negative.

I am not sure about that because I do not get a scam by the casinos and if I lose in a game, I consider that is because of my fault and not the casino mistake.
If people complain about the casino scamming them, they need to look at their history and check if they are breaking the casino rules or they are clean enough and then they can ask the casino what is happening to them.
Many people say the casino is a scam because of themselves. I would call that because they feel greedy after winning some money and want more wins or create a new account to earn money through the casino affiliate system.
If you succeed in withdrawing all of the win money, you are lucky and I am sure you do not do something that breaks the rules.

Agree with this point of yours that most accusations come from those who have to blame themselves for breaking rules or simply going out of budget trying to win it all. I know a couple of fo gamblers (friends of mine) who managed to win money and they were paid at the end with no problems or delays (according to withdrawal policies, meaning they had to slice their winnings into smaller portions to withdraw them). But if you look through some topics on this forum you will see that people love those fast accusations and never or almost never blame themselves.

[pieppiep]

Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

There no need for such actions. Despite advertising law regulates such cases without proper efficiency on Youtube, i think in near future (1-3 years) everything will change dramatically. Not only you (and me) were being annoyed by such dishonest promotions. As i heard new regulations on Youtube is near to come 

I wonder how the Youtuber will be if Youtube makes their rule strict than before. Maybe they will limit all related things and tolerate if the influencers spread something that can cause people's lives to become unusual. We are annoyed by those promotions but we can not do anything but luckily, we can report the ads if we think they can or have already broken the rules so Youtube can warn them.

[lij466fom]

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago 
Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls 
And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

We are not having one supreme leader for all countries around the world, so regulations can be different in different places, and, I'm pretty, sure, there will always be countries with no regulations at all. I mean, we can't count on regulations to come one day and save us, because this may never happen. We have to save ourselves through our own means, and we have to it today. It's easy: don't watch those videos if you feel vulnerable.

I think you should always rely on your own instead of waiting for someone to do all job instead of you. There are plenty of ways to scam people and those Youtube Vloggers are not the worst devils on the Earth. You should always keep your eyes open as you can be deceived at any particular moment of your life. Too many financial services and all this stuff that want you to give them your money for nothing. So, it is important for each of us to be on guard to avoid scam traps.

[carlfebz2]

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago 
Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls 
And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

We are not having one supreme leader for all countries around the world, so regulations can be different in different places, and, I'm pretty, sure, there will always be countries with no regulations at all. I mean, we can't count on regulations to come one day and save us, because this may never happen. We have to save ourselves through our own means, and we have to it today. It's easy: don't watch those videos if you feel vulnerable.

I think you should always rely on your own instead of waiting for someone to do all job instead of you. There are plenty of ways to scam people and those Youtube Vloggers are not the worst devils on the Earth. You should always keep your eyes open as you can be deceived at any particular moment of your life. Too many financial services and all this stuff that want you to give them your money for nothing. So, it is important for each of us to be on guard to avoid scam traps.

Not all would really be moderated which you could somewhat expect that there are things which do crosses on the border line or simply it shouldnt really be showed publicly or something like that and as i said earlier

that we arent that dumb on not to figure out on whats wrong and whats bad or wouldnt able to think up clearly about on possible future effects if you do decide to deal with it.
We do have our own common sense and decisions whether we should get involved or not, if you dont care on your life then so be it and go ahead as simple as that.

[Naficopa]

Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

There no need for such actions. Despite advertising law regulates such cases without proper efficiency on Youtube, i think in near future (1-3 years) everything will change dramatically. Not only you (and me) were being annoyed by such dishonest promotions. As i heard new regulations on Youtube is near to come 

I wonder how the Youtuber will be if Youtube makes their rule strict than before. Maybe they will limit all related things and tolerate if the influencers spread something that can cause people's lives to become unusual. We are annoyed by those promotions but we can not do anything but luckily, we can report the ads if we think they can or have already broken the rules so Youtube can warn them.

Of course, we will never get rid of advertising and marketing. It is all over the world and I still have the impression that there are more and more of ads.
In this case, the point is not that the ads are annoying, but that there is no information at all that this is an ad. People who watch this think this is a real game, which is not true and should be controlled by YouTube.

[Desmong]

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago 
Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls 
And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

[Naficopa]

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

If YouTube doesn't want to regulate it, maybe it should be done by law?!
I'm sure the law regulates advertising in some way (alcohol, cigarettes, guns, gambling), so if it does with influencers, YouTube will have to controll that also.

[jrrsparkles]

Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

There no need for such actions. Despite advertising law regulates such cases without proper efficiency on Youtube, i think in near future (1-3 years) everything will change dramatically. Not only you (and me) were being annoyed by such dishonest promotions. As i heard new regulations on Youtube is near to come 

Probably yes, but not to save the people just for the Google to make more revenue since with the help of influencers the advertisement becomes cheaper but if the same kind of ad need to be promoted by the YouTube itself it will cost them atleast 10x than paid YouTube promotion.

Every advertisement is immoral strategy, we see the cheesey pizza on advertisement but anyone find the pizza in the same way as shown in the advertisement? No right because they use glue components which imitates cheese and every ad falls under this kind of immitation.

[pieppiep]

Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

There no need for such actions. Despite advertising law regulates such cases without proper efficiency on Youtube, i think in near future (1-3 years) everything will change dramatically. Not only you (and me) were being annoyed by such dishonest promotions. As i heard new regulations on Youtube is near to come 

I wonder how the Youtuber will be if Youtube makes their rule strict than before. Maybe they will limit all related things and tolerate if the influencers spread something that can cause people's lives to become unusual. We are annoyed by those promotions but we can not do anything but luckily, we can report the ads if we think they can or have already broken the rules so Youtube can warn them.

Of course, we will never get rid of advertising and marketing. It is all over the world and I still have the impression that there are more and more of ads.
In this case, the point is not that the ads are annoying, but that there is no information at all that this is an ad. People who watch this think this is a real game, which is not true and should be controlled by YouTube.

Many ads do not tell how they work instead just tempt people to join them and if people join without research, they will make their own mistake. That makes many people lose their money without a chance to make money. People should be cautious when they watch the ads and not do something that can get the worst experience. Maybe Youtube is still trying to monitor all of the ads that can make people ruin themselves, but it still needs time for Youtube to ban the wrong ads.

[joker_josue]

Many ads do not tell how they work instead just tempt people to join them and if people join without research, they will make their own mistake. That makes many people lose their money without a chance to make money. People should be cautious when they watch the ads and not do something that can get the worst experience. Maybe Youtube is still trying to monitor all of the ads that can make people ruin themselves, but it still needs time for Youtube to ban the wrong ads.

Look, Google even controls YouTube ads very well. The problem is that often what is advertised, there is nothing wrong.

I can create a YouTube ad, and just say, "I can tell you four ways to make money, easily and effectively. Don't miss the opportunity to increase your income and have what you love most."
And then the service I provide is to refer people to websites or services that allow people to earn money through work or investment.

This is not wrong, nor is it a lie. But it really is a rogue scheme, to take money from people, about things they already know.

Unfortunately this will be difficult to eliminate, and for Google to ban. Then, it may not even be in the ads themselves, but in the videos on the platform, and in that sense it's even more difficult.

[mahendra-13]

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

If YouTube doesn't want to regulate it, maybe it should be done by law?!
I'm sure the law regulates advertising in some way (alcohol, cigarettes, guns, gambling), so if it does with influencers, YouTube will have to controll that also.

Agree with you, but there are ways to avoid those rules and regulations. I mean those Vloggers don't promote a particular casino in the video, for example, but use their premises to show how much they win. When a weak soul sees such a clip, they will definitely try to opt for a casino that is shown in the clip, etc.

[michellee]

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

If YouTube doesn't want to regulate it, maybe it should be done by law?!
I'm sure the law regulates advertising in some way (alcohol, cigarettes, guns, gambling), so if it does with influencers, YouTube will have to controll that also.

Agree with you, but there are ways to avoid those rules and regulations. I mean those Vloggers don't promote a particular casino in the video, for example, but use their premises to show how much they win. When a weak soul sees such a clip, they will definitely try to opt for a casino that is shown in the clip, etc.

That can work for new people who are curious about gambling but not those who have already played gambling. They can know what site those Vloggers promote to show a clue about the site that only those who play that will know. Maybe the regulations will benefit Youtube and not the Vloggers as Youtube owns the site so Youtube can do whatever they want. A short, I agree that it needs individual precautions to avoid the videos if they think that can make them in danger.

[LUCKMCFLY]

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago 
Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls 
And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

What happens is that for there to be a regulation it is very difficult, since now it is not possible to determine what is a scam or not, because there is no regulation in this regard, and there are many complaints worldwide to regulate everything related to crypto , for example NFT games, because metaverses and games of metaverses are coming, many hope that there will be a regulation like there was with ICOs, but I think that this is not the solution because when there are regulations it is very difficult to adapt, there is a clear chance with the metaverses, just wait and see how they can handle certain vulnerabilities.

[milewilda]

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago 
Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls 
And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

What happens is that for there to be a regulation it is very difficult, since now it is not possible to determine what is a scam or not, because there is no regulation in this regard, and there are many complaints worldwide to regulate everything related to crypto , for example NFT games, because metaverses and games of metaverses are coming, many hope that there will be a regulation like there was with ICOs, but I think that this is not the solution because when there are regulations it is very difficult to adapt, there is a clear chance with the metaverses, just wait and see how they can handle certain vulnerabilities.

Back in the past on which people do really whine off about regulation about those ICO projects back in the past which it didnt really happen and now they are asking the same thing with the current hype and interest on the market.You wouldnt really be dumb on not to make out some research in regarding with these things and when you do see something which isnt out of your taste
then its not really bad to make out some considerations on making out some research first before dealing whether its regulated or not.

[Betwrong]

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I think you should always rely on your own instead of waiting for someone to do all job instead of you. There are plenty of ways to scam people and those Youtube Vloggers are not the worst devils on the Earth. You should always keep your eyes open as you can be deceived at any particular moment of your life. Too many financial services and all this stuff that want you to give them your money for nothing. So, it is important for each of us to be on guard to avoid scam traps.

That's right, don't wait for regulations to come, regulate it for yourself by yourself. If you think a video should be banned - don't watch it, or, maybe not watching anything from that channel would be a good idea.

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Unfortunately this will be difficult to eliminate, and for Google to ban. Then, it may not even be in the ads themselves, but in the videos on the platform, and in that sense it's even more difficult.

Good point. When we ask for regulations, we should understand that many of good stuff can be banned too along the way. I bet there are no dishonest streamers and no scammers on the North Korea's national intranet, called Kwangmyong. But do we need such a thing? I don't think so.

[Taskford]

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago 
Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls 
And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

What happens is that for there to be a regulation it is very difficult, since now it is not possible to determine what is a scam or not, because there is no regulation in this regard, and there are many complaints worldwide to regulate everything related to crypto , for example NFT games, because metaverses and games of metaverses are coming, many hope that there will be a regulation like there was with ICOs, but I think that this is not the solution because when there are regulations it is very difficult to adapt, there is a clear chance with the metaverses, just wait and see how they can handle certain vulnerabilities.

Back in the past on which people do really whine off about regulation about those ICO projects back in the past which it didnt really happen and now they are asking the same thing with the current hype and interest on the market.You wouldnt really be dumb on not to make out some research in regarding with these things and when you do see something which isnt out of your taste
then its not really bad to make out some considerations on making out some research first before dealing whether its regulated or not.

It would be the ideal thing to execute first before going on something but unfortunately majority has been drag on the platform because someone invite them in or they just see their ads about earning money for just doing simple things that's why sometimes research has been done by this people at the end. Also not surprising if there are people get hype for something related with winnings or gaining profits since this is human nature and people always want to earn.

[delfastTions]

Good point. When we ask for regulations, we should understand that many of good stuff can be banned too along the way. I bet there are no dishonest streamers and no scammers on the North Korea's national intranet, called Kwangmyong. But do we need such a thing? I don't think so.

I would add that we all don’t really know anything at all about what is happening with the Internet in North Korea, as well as, in general, how the citizens of this mysterious country for the world community live there.  But, I think, of course, Internet scammers become there - it's deadly.  However, everyone knows about some hackers from North Korea who mine bitcoins and maybe dollars for their country.  
As for immoral advertising, as I recently found out, in general, the advertising market is already 1/3 on TV, and 2/3 on the Internet in terms of the cost of this advertising.  At the same time, there is almost no regulation on the Internet and immoral advertising on the Internet knows no boundaries and brakes at all.  And whatever one may say, any of us faces it from time to time.  
And I have no idea what will happen to the restrictions on advertising when we all move to Web 3.0