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April 01, 2021, 09:15:55 PM
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I'm not sure if y'all aware of it but if not: https://decrypt.co/63508/fake-trezor-iphone-app-scams-user-out-of-600000-in-bitcoin

Apple is known for it's rigorous process before allowing apps to it's app store, hence people tend to get bit loose with what they are downloading.

Fake trezor app passed through apple tests, multiple people fell for it, one with 17 BTC.

Don't depend on third party for your security.

Probably it is because some fake applications are allowed in the Store as well as the case in the Google store but when you compared the two there are many more fake applications in the Google play store.

Third-part applications have a lot more restrictions when using something like an Apple product, it might not be allowed when you download an application online and not from the store.

But we know it can be bypass at some point, but you could say that it is safer than windows or android software, but it is still not perfect so we still need to be careful.

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April 01, 2021, 10:04:50 PM
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I dont believe that users got scammed due to downloading fake app directly from App Store. All apps passes tons of moderation before getting into App Store. Despite Google Play Store, which is full of fake and scam apps.
This is not about what you and I believe concerning the situation happening in the Apple and Google play store but it something that has been proving by a lot of people. However, it will be a wrong decision to put your security in the lite/no genuine moderation done by the Appstore and Google play store because hackers and online theft are coming up with new scams ideas.

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April 01, 2021, 10:27:18 PM
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I recently reported such a scam regarding Exodus that was on the Google store, but what I came across when looking into it is that people assume that if the Google store is so unregulated, then the Apple store must be a complete opposite, so they throw caution out of the window. The same skepticism should be involved in both cases because nothing is 100% safe.
It understandable that nothing is 100% safe but when it comes to an app store like Apple and Google they shouldn't be this easy to be fool by scammer which means they are absolutely not doing their job very well in terms of moderating the app they have on their platform.
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April 01, 2021, 10:45:24 PM
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But more importantly than what OS you use is to not just download random pieces of software you stumble across like this user did.
This is the main role of the security, we will not safe if we are not controlling our online activity. some people got trapped by clicking not important ads, visiting fake sites and more reason that very clear if he not aware with his security. we we more careful, find information before download, so we can prevent at least 80% from attack

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April 02, 2021, 07:21:32 AM
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I dont believe that users got scammed due to downloading fake app directly from App Store. All apps passes tons of moderation before getting into App Store. Despite Google Play Store, which is full of fake and scam apps. It is mentioned that he had downloaded an app from App Store. That is a lie, there is no such app there and never was.
It's true that Apple pays way more attention to security than Google, but you are very wrong if you think that their screening system is infallible.It happened to them before in the past (albeit they pay more attention now) and will occasionally keep happening. Sooner or later fake app will pass all the controls and end up on App Store as scammers tend to be very creative and imaginative. It is always a game of cat and a mouse.


People are so used to mindlessly installing apps, that they do it even if they are going to entrust this app with hundreds of thousands of dollars. They probably don't visit Bitcoin forums and never seen a topic about fake wallet resulting in massive theft, otherwise they'd take at least take some steps to verify the software that they want to use.
Exactly this. Over the years people got used to download apps directly from App Store/Google Play so when they decide to get their first crypto wallet, in 99.99% cases they will do exactly the same thing as many times before. I mean, from their point of view why wouldn't they, in all those years everything worked fine.

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April 03, 2021, 08:52:45 AM
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when it comes to an app store like Apple and Google they shouldn't be this easy to be fool by scammer which means they are absolutely not doing their job very well in terms of moderating the app they have on their platform.
You are kidding yourself if you think Apple or Google care about you, at all. They care about making money, and if scammers are willing to pay them, then Apple and Google will happily take their money. From fake apps on their respective app stores, to fake and scam extension on their browsers, to scam results being pushed to the top of Google results, to running ads from known scammers, to mining your data and selling it to third parties, the list goes on. You cannot rely on these companies to protect you in any way. They will happily sell out you, you security, and your data, if scammers are willing to pay them for the opportunity.

We've seen all kinds of apps lead to the theft of bitcoin, everything from fake wallets like in this case, to something as simple as a new theme which had a keylogger built in and stole seed phrases as they were being entered in to legitimate wallet apps. If you use your phone for bitcoin, then you should download the bare minimum number of apps on it, and only open source reputable apps from sources your trust, ideally verified prior to installing. The same holds true for your computer or any other electronic devices. Each additional piece of software, app, browser extension, etc., you download is an added risk.
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April 03, 2021, 06:57:24 PM
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I'm not sure if y'all aware of it but if not: https://decrypt.co/63508/fake-trezor-iphone-app-scams-user-out-of-600000-in-bitcoin

Apple is known for it's rigorous process before allowing apps to it's app store, hence people tend to get bit loose with what they are downloading.

Fake trezor app passed through apple tests, multiple people fell for it, one with 17 BTC.

Don't depend on third party for your security.
All those who lost BTC to this are to be blame for their misfortune, there is no trezor app on IOS and again it would have safe them alot if they do research first than trusting a third-party, when it comes to money or assets storing apps do not use any online stores, go straight to the app official website and download from there
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April 04, 2021, 09:21:47 AM
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We ain't safe any longer with what download anymore. This is the worst experience ever to lose all your savings in a twinkle of an eye.
This is the main reason why I go through all the recommendations rating of an app before I choose to download it.
The world will leave in is full of scams. The third parties shouldn't be trusted either when transacting information with them

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April 04, 2021, 10:35:34 AM
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Couldn't believe it myself that Apple as stated by the OP who is known for their rigorous and strict requirements for apps to be published in their Appstore, I hope that Apple has taken an action towards this malware app that passed through their requirements
 Nowhere online is safe anymore for this normal people who are naive when it comes to their online security, this event also serves as a PSA to every newbies and long time users in the forum to be careful on what you are clicking/download online because sometimes our arrogance that we might not be the victim of this kind of schemes will be our eventual downfall.
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<…> This is the main reason why I go through all the recommendations rating of an app before I choose to download it.<…>
Reviews should be read, but that on its own is no certain safeguard. This particular app has 155 reviews, mostly in the 5 star range. Not a massive amount, but enough for somebody that relies on this criteria alone to install the app, to his later to be met dismay.

This is very similar to those fake sites that follow the same procedure, and demand your 24 word mnemonic. Perhaps Trezor (not only them) should make it very clear in their material that they won’t ever ask for this information themselves, neither on any site nor app. The enclosed card warns about not revealing this info to others, but should probably emphasize that sites/apps with their brand (Trezor) as a claim are no exception to this.
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I only thought that android was the worst operating system for cryptocurrency but it seems none of these big companies are able to stop scammers from doing cryptocurrency scams by using their platform. I assume  the biggest falt lies with the user who does not ever verify what he or she is downloading from these store. It is beeter to directly visit the service provider website in order to download any cryptocurrency app on your device.

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April 05, 2021, 11:59:36 AM
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<…> This is the main reason why I go through all the recommendations rating of an app before I choose to download it.<…>
Reviews should be read, but that on its own is no certain safeguard. This particular app has 155 reviews, mostly in the 5 star range. Not a massive amount, but enough for somebody that relies on this criteria alone to install the app, to his later to be met dismay.

It having most 5 star reviews is red flag in itself.

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April 05, 2021, 06:03:39 PM
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I only thought that android was the worst operating system for cryptocurrency but it seems none of these big companies are able to stop scammers from doing cryptocurrency scams by using their platform. I assume  the biggest falt lies with the user who does not ever verify what he or she is downloading from these store. It is beeter to directly visit the service provider website in order to download any cryptocurrency app on your device.
The scammer was a genius, able to trick the user who had lost his btc...
what you say is right, why does he not directly download the official application from trezor because usually, the official site includes a link to their original application on the app store. *big unexpected loss



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April 05, 2021, 07:02:40 PM
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Apple store is for IPhone what Playstore is for Android. When Apple store is compared to Playstore, its relatively very safe than the playstore. Apps on Playstore barely go through any severe scrutiny, mostbof the apps available on playstore are mainly apps that have been able to satisfy minimal conditions of which the most of it ends in a fee, who wouldn't afford that especially when what they stand to gain through there phishig or scam platform. Mean while, apple does a lot of scrutiny and verification on the apps in there apple store. Compared to android regular playstore, apple store is safe but, its best you always verify an app form its official site before downloading.
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April 05, 2021, 07:07:34 PM
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Couldn't believe it myself that Apple as stated by the OP who is known for their rigorous and strict requirements for apps to be published in their Appstore, I hope that Apple has taken an action towards this malware app that passed through their requirements
 Nowhere online is safe anymore for this normal people who are naive when it comes to their online security, this event also serves as a PSA to every newbies and long time users in the forum to be careful on what you are clicking/download online because sometimes our arrogance that we might not be the victim of this kind of schemes will be our eventual downfall.
That's the human fault if they fell to the traps of a scammer because no matter what security you put on something for its safety there's nothing you could do if you fall for the traps of a scammer. The only way to avoid this from happening in the future is to be very cautious to everything you take from the internet because scammers are always planning way ahead of you. So check every reviews you see on the product or apps that you like to download but be wary because not all reviews are legit because you can easily identify a type of review that is written exaggeratedly to promote such apps/projects.

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I think there is no such thing as safe, from any kind of operating system or applications, if you just allow applications in your mobile, computer, or laptop, that will be the end of it, if you never care to read or research what is going to be installed, at the same time make sure the source is safe, and take time to review comments from any applications, you are going to put in your devices.

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April 06, 2021, 12:28:35 AM
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We ain't safe any longer with what download anymore.
Our safety lies in our hands. If we're vigilant and aware of what we're downloading, we're safe if we're downloading the official app of any product. Before downloading, we're too resourceful to know who are the sources and if they're trustworthy and reputable, in that initiative, you'll know the fake apps and the official ones.

This is the worst experience ever to lose all your savings in a twinkle of an eye.
This is the main reason why I go through all the recommendations rating of an app before I choose to download it.
The world will leave in is full of scams. The third parties shouldn't be trusted either when transacting information with them
Be careful too with the reviews below, I've seen apps that has thousands of downloads made by the culprit and probably paid people just to increase the number of downloads and to do fake reviews.

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Reviews should be read, but that on its own is no certain safeguard. This particular app has 155 reviews, mostly in the 5 star range. Not a massive amount, but enough for somebody that relies on this criteria alone to install the app, to his later to be met dismay.


It's always a common norm for many people to not read reviews in Apple store when compares to Google playstore because the trust Apple too much.

Somehow, I feel Apple is to be blamed for this sort of issues. They do claim that
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https://www.apple.com/app-store/

I wonder how they miss this sort of activity if truly their moderators are working every day.
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Somehow, I feel Apple is to be blamed for this sort of issues. They do claim that
Apple's fault was to not discover and remove the fake application. It's not Apple's fault that users didn't check what they were downloading and trusted that others (Apple staff) did their job for them. If the user was that reckless with his coins, it was just a matter of time when something bad would happen. He might have been lucky in the past, but this time it unfortunately caught up on him.

I wonder how they miss this sort of activity if truly their moderators are working every day.
I work every day and I make mistakes because I am human, don't you? Those tasked to supervise me, recognize those mistakes and correct them. It's a team effort and there is always someone who is not at his best. I have corrected my direct supervisors several times. Keep your eyes open at all times, especially when you dealing with money. 

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Somehow, I feel Apple is to be blamed for this sort of issues. They do claim that
Apple's fault was to not discover and remove the fake application. It's not Apple's fault that users didn't check what they were downloading and trusted that others (Apple staff) did their job for them. If the user was that reckless with his coins, it was just a matter of time when something bad would happen. He might have been lucky in the past, but this time it unfortunately caught up on him.

I wonder how they miss this sort of activity if truly their moderators are working every day.
I work every day and I make mistakes because I am human, don't you? Those tasked to supervise me, recognize those mistakes and correct them. It's a team effort and there is always someone who is not at his best. I have corrected my direct supervisors several times. Keep your eyes open at all times, especially when you dealing with money. 

I disagree. Apple boasts that all apps are safe. That is, some responsible people must check the application several times before allowing this application for general use. I do not see any human factor here but only see human carelessness.
The scammers substituted and provided a safe version of the utility, which in no way justifies the App Store itself.
We know today that an audit was conducted following this event and several more apps were removed from the App Store. This suggests that nothing is perfect. All talk about reliability and safety, this is just an advertisement for your brand. Therefore, of course, you must always rely on your knowledge and a cool head.

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