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April 19, 2021, 07:44:00 PM
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It's going to be stopped, look at Taiwan, Mongolia and other clear cases on covid. They are very disciple to manage this cases without any burden and I do feel like if people actually leave their ego and just follow the protocol, we should have been clear since months ago.

But guess what, their egos and their trademark "my body so it's my choice" bullshit makes them suffered by their own actions.

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April 19, 2021, 10:49:31 PM
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The virus has drained the world economy. Even vaccines cannot contain disease well because the variants have evolved into other forms. I found that European and American countries are less capable of controlling the disease than Asia, although Asia has a higher population density and is underdeveloped in terms of economy and technology.

Asian countries have adopted technology to control the disease through the use of mobile apps, camera systems, and tracking of infected people combined with isolating infected people.
Countries need to take action to end the epidemic to get economic activity back to normal.

Cash flow is freer now because they are unable to invest in real business due to the epidemic. Cryptocurrencies will be a more vibrant and accessible environment than stocks or Forex.
Well, the government is responsible for making any action to prevent the virus but the fact is that the people do not want to give up their freedom to stop the virus. So the awareness of the citizen is also very important. Low education, delusion, or arrogance can make a disciplined country on a verge of an outbreak. For instance, India (an Asian country of course) is suffering the biggest contamination ever since the beginning of the pandemic because of the false belief that they have reached "Herd immunity". People do not want to skip any religious activities, and the latest Hindu festival causes thousands of new cases.

Actually, you can easily access any broker or exchange during the epidemic. There is no boundary or prevention. I've been trading both forex and crypto for many years, even when covid 19 appeared.

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April 20, 2021, 04:00:15 AM
 #143

It's going to be stopped, look at Taiwan, Mongolia and other clear cases on covid. They are very disciple to manage this cases without any burden and I do feel like if people actually leave their ego and just follow the protocol, we should have been clear since months ago.

But guess what, their egos and their trademark "my body so it's my choice" bullshit makes them suffered by their own actions.

In countries such as Taiwan, Thailand and Vietnam there seems to be a natural immunity to the virus. In Taiwan they have reported only around 1,000 cases till now. How this is possible? And Thailand and Vietnam are not isolated island nations, and yet they seems to be immune to COVID 19. Vietnam has reported less than 3,000 cases and they have a population of close to 100 million. Same with Thailand as well, who have reported just 43,000 cases. Now compare this to a country such as Indonesia in the neighborhood, which has reported 1.6 million cases.

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April 20, 2021, 04:59:02 AM
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It's going to be stopped, look at Taiwan, Mongolia and other clear cases on covid. They are very disciple to manage this cases without any burden and I do feel like if people actually leave their ego and just follow the protocol, we should have been clear since months ago.

But guess what, their egos and their trademark "my body so it's my choice" bullshit makes them suffered by their own actions.

In countries such as Taiwan, Thailand and Vietnam there seems to be a natural immunity to the virus. In Taiwan they have reported only around 1,000 cases till now. How this is possible? And Thailand and Vietnam are not isolated island nations, and yet they seems to be immune to COVID 19. Vietnam has reported less than 3,000 cases and they have a population of close to 100 million. Same with Thailand as well, who have reported just 43,000 cases. Now compare this to a country such as Indonesia in the neighborhood, which has reported 1.6 million cases.
It depends on their own leaders, I see countries like Vietnam that the prevention is immediately controlled and their people always trust the leaders. As for India in recent days I have felt like they are losing control as they let the disease spread again.
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April 20, 2021, 07:00:30 AM
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It depends on their own leaders, I see countries like Vietnam that the prevention is immediately controlled and their people always trust the leaders. As for India in recent days I have felt like they are losing control as they let the disease spread again.

Don't know the situation in India, but I guess it is not very easy to implement containment measures in a country of 1.4 billion, especially when there are large internal migrant movements. From what I have seen, the virus spreads through air, and containment measures are only partially successful. The only real solution available is to vaccinate as many people as possible. And that is a problem in countries such as India, which have huge population.
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April 20, 2021, 07:08:23 AM
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It depends on their own leaders, I see countries like Vietnam that the prevention is immediately controlled and their people always trust the leaders. As for India in recent days I have felt like they are losing control as they let the disease spread again.

Don't know the situation in India, but I guess it is not very easy to implement containment measures in a country of 1.4 billion, especially when there are large internal migrant movements. From what I have seen, the virus spreads through air, and containment measures are only partially successful. The only real solution available is to vaccinate as many people as possible. And that is a problem in countries such as India, which have huge population.
Vaccinations are great. I have one question. Each country is developing its own vaccine. Yes, someone will buy it from abroad, but how to determine which vaccine is better. I understand that there won't be much choice for me. Whichever vaccine my country proposes, that I will accept, but the fact, that there is no one standard and it's scary.

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April 20, 2021, 07:19:22 AM
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Vaccinations are great. I have one question. Each country is developing its own vaccine. Yes, someone will buy it from abroad, but how to determine which vaccine is better. I understand that there won't be much choice for me. Whichever vaccine my country proposes, that I will accept, but the fact, that there is no one standard and it's scary.

It's not like you have hundreds of choices. Around 8-9 different vaccines are available globally, and the availability in your country depends upon the permissions given by your government. As far as I know, in none of these countries the vaccines are available in the open market. They are available only through government approved centers, where there is a strict eligibility criteria. And regarding the efficiency, almost all of these vaccines have completed Phase 3 clinical trials and the results are openly available in medical journals such as The Lancet.
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April 20, 2021, 08:37:06 AM
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The virus has drained the world economy. Even vaccines cannot contain disease well because the variants have evolved into other forms. I found that European and American countries are less capable of controlling the disease than Asia, although Asia has a higher population density and is underdeveloped in terms of economy and technology.

Asian countries have adopted technology to control the disease through the use of mobile apps, camera systems, and tracking of infected people combined with isolating infected people.
Countries need to take action to end the epidemic to get economic activity back to normal.

Cash flow is freer now because they are unable to invest in real business due to the epidemic. Cryptocurrencies will be a more vibrant and accessible environment than stocks or Forex.
Well, the government is responsible for making any action to prevent the virus but the fact is that the people do not want to give up their freedom to stop the virus. So the awareness of the citizen is also very important. Low education, delusion, or arrogance can make a disciplined country on a verge of an outbreak. For instance, India (an Asian country of course) is suffering the biggest contamination ever since the beginning of the pandemic because of the false belief that they have reached "Herd immunity". People do not want to skip any religious activities, and the latest Hindu festival causes thousands of new cases.

Actually, you can easily access any broker or exchange during the epidemic. There is no boundary or prevention. I've been trading both forex and crypto for many years, even when covid 19 appeared.
People are always stubborn with their ideas when they put too much faith in religion. They paid the price for their behavior during the pandemic.
If you say that a low level of education causes the disease to spread more quickly, then you are wrong. Many highly educated people still make mistakes and act incorrectly. It can be said that a pandemic has shown how people in all nations are acting. I've seen Americans struggle not to wear masks. hmm ...

The epidemic creates conditions and opportunities for people to buy property at good prices, but in general, few people do so because they have to take care of their lives and families. Making a deal in person and at home crypto or stock or forex manager seems easier.

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April 20, 2021, 01:45:37 PM
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In my country many people change their job to online business to survive during pandemic. Many people also not yet vaccinate and they scare about the effect of vaccine because many news around the world about the symptoms of being vaccinated. Today many business are closed, some cities are lockdown and people suffered a lot. Hopefully this will end so we can live a normal life again.
I'm still afraid of vaccinations, about the news about the symptoms after being vaccinated. and in my country some people don't believe in corona. they are doing their usual activities, even though the economy is not as stable now

If you still have a problem with vaccination, then nothing can be done about it. More than 1 billion people have been vaccinated till now (either completely with two doses, or partially with one dose). If what these anti-vaxxers were claiming was even remotely true, then our streets and pavements should be full of dead bodies. In my country, we are using two different types of vaccine (Covishield from Oxford/AstraZeneca and Covaxin from Bharat Biotech), with the third one (Sputnik V) to be available later this month. Out of the 124 million doses administered here, less than 0.01% have reported any adverse reaction.
Did you know that in my country there are still many who have not been vaccinated. It doesn't mean I don't want to because I live in the interior where the majority of the population still live in one area. all must be in the vaccine. does not demand the possibility that all will inevitably be in the vaccine

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April 20, 2021, 05:52:44 PM
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Regarding the Astrazeneca vaccine, in many people it has caused thrombi, and they have caused death in some people, I have seen that some recently vaccinated or vaccinated people are attacked by the virus and it kills them, so the efficacy of the vaccine ceases when a new strain mutates or develops because it is more aggressive than the old one.

If it is a virus genetically manipulated by humans, which has been accidentally planned or manufactured, I know that the virus has similar and alternative strands of HIV, because the virus reacts against HIV drugs, if the vaccine represents injecting a minimum of covid-19, we would be injecting very minimal doses of those chains, I do not know if the vaccine is worse or not, but there are many things that do not fit me personally, even those people who do not get vaccinated are not in any way more protected? because they may have the appropriate defenses in their body against the virus.
At the end this is a decision that each person will need to take by themselves, fortunately it seems vaccination is not going to be made mandatory so you have a choice, if you are in a relatively good health and you are young then the chances you will develop severe symptoms in the case you get the virus are very low and you could decide to not get the vaccine and this is not going to have an adverse effect on your life, but for those with bad health and which are old they do not have too much of a choice as the virus is too dangerous for people like them.

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April 20, 2021, 11:19:08 PM
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I don't think a crypto-centric society is going to work, if all of us in the planet ditched their jobs and instead invested in crypto, the industry will be oversaturated, which will cause severe poverty and starvation for people who aren't able to invest their money in crypto. Regular jobs will depreciate in number and worth since people deem crypto investing and mining much more profitable than your average 9-5, so people will be caught in a deadlock where they can get themselves a 9-5 only to be paid dirt cheap, while also not able to invest their money on crypto because the industry is oversaturated already.
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Did you know that in my country there are still many who have not been vaccinated. It doesn't mean I don't want to because I live in the interior where the majority of the population still live in one area. all must be in the vaccine. does not demand the possibility that all will inevitably be in the vaccine

Nothing can be done, because the vaccine manufacturing units are working with limited capacity. Even here in India, we are facing a severe shortage of the vaccine doses, despite being the manufacturing hub of the AstraZeneca vaccine. Now the government has even given permission to import vaccines from abroad, which would have been unthinkable a few months back. If this is the case in a country which manufactures huge amounts of the vaccine, you can imagine the condition of the other countries.

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April 21, 2021, 04:20:07 AM
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Well, the government is responsible for making any action to prevent the virus but the fact is that the people do not want to give up their freedom to stop the virus. So the awareness of the citizen is also very important. Low education, delusion, or arrogance can make a disciplined country on a verge of an outbreak. For instance, India (an Asian country of course) is suffering the biggest contamination ever since the beginning of the pandemic because of the false belief that they have reached "Herd immunity". People do not want to skip any religious activities, and the latest Hindu festival causes thousands of new cases.

Actually, you can easily access any broker or exchange during the epidemic. There is no boundary or prevention. I've been trading both forex and crypto for many years, even when covid 19 appeared.
People are always stubborn with their ideas when they put too much faith in religion. They paid the price for their behavior during the pandemic.
If you say that a low level of education causes the disease to spread more quickly, then you are wrong. Many highly educated people still make mistakes and act incorrectly. It can be said that a pandemic has shown how people in all nations are acting. I've seen Americans struggle not to wear masks. hmm ...

The epidemic creates conditions and opportunities for people to buy property at good prices, but in general, few people do so because they have to take care of their lives and families. Making a deal in person and at home crypto or stock or forex manager seems easier.
Low education is just one of the main reasons causing the outbreak. As I mentioned above, there are delusion and arrogance too. The americans are living in the fantasy that Covid-19 is just a myth and they have to pay the price. Many articles said that many patients even in their last moment, they still do not believe the existence of the virus. Such a shame

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April 21, 2021, 07:21:00 AM
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It depends on their own leaders, I see countries like Vietnam that the prevention is immediately controlled and their people always trust the leaders. As for India in recent days I have felt like they are losing control as they let the disease spread again.

Don't know the situation in India, but I guess it is not very easy to implement containment measures in a country of 1.4 billion, especially when there are large internal migrant movements. From what I have seen, the virus spreads through air, and containment measures are only partially successful. The only real solution available is to vaccinate as many people as possible. And that is a problem in countries such as India, which have huge population.
Yes, they admitted that they lost control of the verification of new strains and could not control the situation. I really feel that their nation will really suffer difficulties in the future if the situation cannot be controlled.

Also, as a person who has just traveled from Vietnam, it is truly paradise on earth. And I'm glad I went over there, and saw people talking about this country again.
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The virus has drained the world economy. Even vaccines cannot contain disease well because the variants have evolved into other forms. I found that European and American countries are less capable of controlling the disease than Asia, although Asia has a higher population density and is underdeveloped in terms of economy and technology.

Asian countries have adopted technology to control the disease through the use of mobile apps, camera systems, and tracking of infected people combined with isolating infected people.
Countries need to take action to end the epidemic to get economic activity back to normal.
The vaccines can fight the variants, the problem is that the logistics of the vaccine is slow and people are skeptic about the vaccine even though there is nothing to worry about. My country did the same thing although it is only a city wide because the national government is incompetent
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April 21, 2021, 09:54:33 AM
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March 2020 when covid virus spread in our country that caused a couple of months of a total lockdown. Many people lost their job and others are now investing in crypto and joining some campaign just to earn money and continue living. Last month of March this year 2021, finally, there are already a vaccine and many Frontliner's are now vaccinated.
But why this time the number of Covid positive in our Country are increasing with new variant of Covid Virus? It seems that this pandemic has no end...There is also another lockdown. It's so sad and difficult!
What will happen to us and to our economy?
Do you think this virus will not stop?
What about in your Country?

I think now, much better to stay at home and focus on crypto rather than trying to find another job which is very impossible at this moment.

In our country, cases of covid positive still rise even though there are vaccines already because most of the people treat the situation normal. According to news, covid is air born but children and other minors who does not go to school are on the street playing without using face mask, on shopping malls strolling, or on a stay cation. At public market, social distancing is not always observed. Close contact always takes place due to not all stores or transportation does not support online payment.
Economy this year will continue to rise due more offices are now open on the provinces who are not in lock down, and work from home setup is enforced to more restricted areas.
Covid will remain like other bacteria or virus out there but due to vaccines, it will be less harmful.

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Covid will remain like other bacteria or virus out there but due to vaccines, it will be less harmful.

The problem is that there are not enough vaccines to inoculate everyone. We are in to the 5th month of vaccination, and only around 925 million doses of the vaccine has been administered so far. In order to vaccinate everyone, we need around 15 billion doses. So even by the end of this year, only a small minority of the world population will be vaccinated against COVID 19. And worse still, those who got completely vaccinated (with two doses of the vaccine) may need another booster dose after 12 months.
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April 21, 2021, 10:25:17 AM
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The problem is that there are not enough vaccines to inoculate everyone. We are in to the 5th month of vaccination, and only around 925 million doses of the vaccine has been administered so far. In order to vaccinate everyone, we need around 15 billion doses. So even by the end of this year, only a small minority of the world population will be vaccinated against COVID 19. And worse still, those who got completely vaccinated (with two doses of the vaccine) may need another booster dose after 12 months.
Not just the quantity but also the logistics seems to be another problem for the vaccine rollout. If we continue to innovate and have all the countries do their thing and become competent, I am sure that we can make the inoculation much more faster, we can't do anything about it, if the government is incompetent with the vaccine rollout then we as their citizens are screwed.

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Not just the quantity but also the logistics seems to be another problem for the vaccine rollout. If we continue to innovate and have all the countries do their thing and become competent, I am sure that we can make the inoculation much more faster, we can't do anything about it, if the government is incompetent with the vaccine rollout then we as their citizens are screwed.

Logistics is a problem because the mRNA vaccines need deep-freezing. The vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech needs to be stored at −70ºC. The Sputnik V vaccine also needs to be stored at -18ºC. The developing nations may be having the facilities to store the vaccine at such low temperatures, but we can't expect the poorer nations to have tens of thousands of such deep-freezers. And it's not just storing. Transporting the vaccine at such low temperatures can also be a problem.
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Did you know that in my country there are still many who have not been vaccinated. It doesn't mean I don't want to because I live in the interior where the majority of the population still live in one area. all must be in the vaccine. does not demand the possibility that all will inevitably be in the vaccine

Nothing can be done, because the vaccine manufacturing units are working with limited capacity. Even here in India, we are facing a severe shortage of the vaccine doses, despite being the manufacturing hub of the AstraZeneca vaccine. Now the government has even given permission to import vaccines from abroad, which would have been unthinkable a few months back. If this is the case in a country which manufactures huge amounts of the vaccine, you can imagine the condition of the other countries.
hopefully this condition will be over soon and we can breathe free air and be able to travel with the family, hopefully the corona virus will disappear soon

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