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May 29, 2021, 03:43:23 AM
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But assume that some protocols aren't really applicable to everyone because some people work really hard to make money so they can eat. That was also my recent rant, that we should follow the protocols so that cases can be reduced, but I realized that some people are really trying their hardest to survive. The best thing to do in this situation is to implement a massive vaccination program in the country so that the spread of the disease throughout the world can be stopped right away. IMO, that's the only way to kill the virus, I hope the government should listen to their people and implement vaccination now.

Lockdown restrictions need to be followed by everyone. If there is some relaxation given to daily wage workers, then it will result in massive misuse. Because a large part of the Indian population consists of such workers. And this time the lockdown was not announced for several months. It was supposed to remain in place just for a few weeks. So everyone needs to stay at home, whether he is a daily wage worker or a more formal employee. I am against giving any sort of relaxation to anyone.


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May 29, 2021, 03:50:48 AM
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I don't know where people are living the situation is as bad as it is reported in the media, but what I know about the situation in India is bad. I have heard its current information from a friend in India, the people here are really suffering from the bad consequences of the epidemic.

Being a resident of India, I have to agree with you unfortunately. But still, here the situation is slowly improving now. Almost all the states have imposed strict lockdown restrictions and that has managed to curb the spread of the virus. Back in March-April, the people refused to follow social distancing norms and that triggered the second wave. Now the population seems to be more aware of the virus and in general the majority of the population is following the protocol. But the slow pace of vaccination is still a concern. There is no sign of any uptick in the daily vaccination numbers.
I believe the situation will become more and more better as people become more and more awed by this Covid virus, as long as it can effectively cut off the transmission route, then Covid virus is not scary, due to its fatality rate not high. At last, i wish India people can all get vaccinated early.

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May 29, 2021, 09:17:34 AM
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I don't know where people are living the situation is as bad as it is reported in the media, but what I know about the situation in India is bad. I have heard its current information from a friend in India, the people here are really suffering from the bad consequences of the epidemic.

Being a resident of India, I have to agree with you unfortunately. But still, here the situation is slowly improving now. Almost all the states have imposed strict lockdown restrictions and that has managed to curb the spread of the virus. Back in March-April, the people refused to follow social distancing norms and that triggered the second wave. Now the population seems to be more aware of the virus and in general the majority of the population is following the protocol. But the slow pace of vaccination is still a concern. There is no sign of any uptick in the daily vaccination numbers.
I believe the situation will become more and more better as people become more and more awed by this Covid virus, as long as it can effectively cut off the transmission route, then Covid virus is not scary, due to its fatality rate not high. At last, i wish India people can all get vaccinated early.
I hope it is like that and to break the chain of transmission of Covid 19, of course we need to work together in doing so,
because if not it will be useless even though the mortality rate is not high but the transmission rate is very high,
so we are still careful and keep a definite distance

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May 29, 2021, 01:54:49 PM
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But assume that some protocols aren't really applicable to everyone because some people work really hard to make money so they can eat. That was also my recent rant, that we should follow the protocols so that cases can be reduced, but I realized that some people are really trying their hardest to survive. The best thing to do in this situation is to implement a massive vaccination program in the country so that the spread of the disease throughout the world can be stopped right away. IMO, that's the only way to kill the virus, I hope the government should listen to their people and implement vaccination now.

Lockdown restrictions need to be followed by everyone. If there is some relaxation given to daily wage workers, then it will result in massive misuse. Because a large part of the Indian population consists of such workers. And this time the lockdown was not announced for several months. It was supposed to remain in place just for a few weeks. So everyone needs to stay at home, whether he is a daily wage worker or a more formal employee. I am against giving any sort of relaxation to anyone.

Dont you think about the seller in the traditional market? They ignore every restriction that have been regulated by the government. They cant be at home and follow the lockdown, because they have to fulfill their basic needs by working at the market and because of them, the supply for foods is safe. In the traditional market, the crowded situation can't be avoid. They dont use mask or anything else, because in their mind money is everything. They have to earn money for their life.

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May 30, 2021, 09:20:31 AM
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But assume that some protocols aren't really applicable to everyone because some people work really hard to make money so they can eat. That was also my recent rant, that we should follow the protocols so that cases can be reduced, but I realized that some people are really trying their hardest to survive. The best thing to do in this situation is to implement a massive vaccination program in the country so that the spread of the disease throughout the world can be stopped right away. IMO, that's the only way to kill the virus, I hope the government should listen to their people and implement vaccination now.

Lockdown restrictions need to be followed by everyone. If there is some relaxation given to daily wage workers, then it will result in massive misuse. Because a large part of the Indian population consists of such workers. And this time the lockdown was not announced for several months. It was supposed to remain in place just for a few weeks. So everyone needs to stay at home, whether he is a daily wage worker or a more formal employee. I am against giving any sort of relaxation to anyone.

Dont you think about the seller in the traditional market? They ignore every restriction that have been regulated by the government. They cant be at home and follow the lockdown, because they have to fulfill their basic needs by working at the market and because of them, the supply for foods is safe. In the traditional market, the crowded situation can't be avoid. They dont use mask or anything else, because in their mind money is everything. They have to earn money for their life.
With the current conditions the government is indeed a dilemma in making a policy,
It is not easy to decide whether traditional markets are closed or not because people also need food for their daily needs,
I think the traditional markets are still open but they have to comply with health protocols

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May 30, 2021, 12:13:52 PM
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I believe the situation will become more and more better as people become more and more awed by this Covid virus, as long as it can effectively cut off the transmission route, then Covid virus is not scary, due to its fatality rate not high. At last, i wish India people can all get vaccinated early.

Be careful when you talk about the fatality rate. It varies with different strains. For example, the original strain had a mortality rate of only around 0.1%-0.3% among the younger people. However, with the double mutant strain (B.1.617.2), the mortality rate seems to be 10 or even 20 times higher when compared to the original strain. A lot of young people have died as a result of this strain in India. Thankfully the strain has remained limited to India (with the exception of a few cases).

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May 30, 2021, 03:25:50 PM
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in some large countries such as the US if they have received the vaccine they are allowed to remove the mask.
I was a little surprised to read this news. I think the policy cannot be applied in all countries. do vaccines really make someone immune?  Huh

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May 30, 2021, 04:19:47 PM
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in some large countries such as the US if they have received the vaccine they are allowed to remove the mask.
I was a little surprised to read this news. I think the policy cannot be applied in all countries. do vaccines really make someone immune?  Huh
I think the policy is implemented so that vaccination can run quickly. if after receiving the vaccine it is allowed to remove the mask, the community will be happy to receive the vaccine. of course everyone knows that wearing a mask is something that is less fun  Grin

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May 30, 2021, 04:42:14 PM
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in some large countries such as the US if they have received the vaccine they are allowed to remove the mask.
I was a little surprised to read this news. I think the policy cannot be applied in all countries. do vaccines really make someone immune?  Huh
I think the policy is implemented so that vaccination can run quickly. if after receiving the vaccine it is allowed to remove the mask, the community will be happy to receive the vaccine. of course everyone knows that wearing a mask is something that is less fun  Grin
If vaccination is effective and will have no effect if you ignore health protocols including wearing a mask, in my opinion there is no problem if you are truly immune to Covid-19.
because I think we should keep wearing masks until everyone has a chance to get vaccinated and we have got the virus under control, and when community transmission is low and most people are vaccinated, I think we will be able to remove masks safely.
preferring to stick with masks or follow health protocols before infection rates become very low.

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May 30, 2021, 04:57:39 PM
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in some large countries such as the US if they have received the vaccine they are allowed to remove the mask.
I was a little surprised to read this news. I think the policy cannot be applied in all countries. do vaccines really make someone immune?  Huh

Vaccines prevent disease 95% of the time (the case with Pfizer and Moderna vaccines), but 5% risk remains. But that doesn't mean that it will be OK to remove the mask. Because people without mask can propagate the virus, to those who are not vaccinated (remember that those who are aged below 16 years are yet to be given an opportunity to get the vaccine in the United States). It is upto the government to decide whether those who are vaccinated are given a right to be without their masks.



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May 30, 2021, 05:49:05 PM
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in some large countries such as the US if they have received the vaccine they are allowed to remove the mask.
I was a little surprised to read this news. I think the policy cannot be applied in all countries. do vaccines really make someone immune?  Huh

Vaccines are only to prevent it, it doesn't mean we are immune to associating with people who have been exposed to Covid-19, in my country there are also those who have been vaccinated but eventually contracted Covid. -19, a policy like this is suitable for countries with a low level of Covid -19 while countries whose Covid is still increasing, of course this is not the right policy

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Vaccines are only to prevent it, it doesn't mean we are immune to associating with people who have been exposed to Covid-19, in my country there are also those who have been vaccinated but eventually contracted Covid. -19, a policy like this is suitable for countries with a low level of Covid -19 while countries whose Covid is still increasing, of course this is not the right policy

At this point, we should remember that the United States is the country which has the highest number of confirmed COVID 19 cases across the globe. And one of the reasons for this high number is the fact that large groups of people refuse to follow safety protocols or to get vaccinated. Now everyone knows that getting two doses of the vaccine doesn't make you 100% immune to the virus. But here, these people are using it as an excuse to not to wear masks and follow social distancing.


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May 31, 2021, 08:57:19 AM
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At this point, we should remember that the United States is the country which has the highest number of confirmed COVID 19 cases across the globe. And one of the reasons for this high number is the fact that large groups of people refuse to follow safety protocols or to get vaccinated. Now everyone knows that getting two doses of the vaccine doesn't make you 100% immune to the virus. But here, these people are using it as an excuse to not to wear masks and follow social distancing.

Does the US still has the highest number of cases or they are not leaders now? I havent heard shocking death case number for a very long time from there. Now India is on the lead I think. Do you think that US has defeated covid or stopped major spread?
I really dont know what to do with all that virus. Vaccine does not help, however a lot of people are happy that the vaccine exist and they get doses. Masks does not give a full protection either. Social distancing rules are often ignored.

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May 31, 2021, 11:07:21 AM
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Does the US still has the highest number of cases or they are not leaders now? I havent heard shocking death case number for a very long time from there. Now India is on the lead I think. Do you think that US has defeated covid or stopped major spread?
I really dont know what to do with all that virus. Vaccine does not help, however a lot of people are happy that the vaccine exist and they get doses. Masks does not give a full protection either. Social distancing rules are often ignored.

The current situation in the United States is not that encouraging. Despite completely vaccinating almost half the population, they are still reporting huge number of cases and deaths. As per the available data, during the last 2 weeks there were 8,639 deaths and 326,738 new cases. These numbers are huge (although not as high as what they have in India). Even countries with very low rate of vaccination, such as Japan and Germany are not reporting this many cases. So the situation is really serious in the US.



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May 31, 2021, 11:27:44 AM
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Sometimes we can’t blame the government for mishandling this pandemic. Here in the Philippines, there are still some who are hosting superspreader events (mass gatherings in short) defying the government rules and ended up with a lot of positive results in the end. Although a lot are criticizing the government, but they are not criticizing themselves for not doing their part by means of avoiding mass gatherings, not following the minimum health protocols, etc.

They are choosing their own happiness not realizing how tired are the medical health workers are right now. It makes me sick that some of these people ignored the sacrifices of the health workers. Even with the hearfelt videos about health workers sacrificing to battle COVID-19, stupid people are still defying the rules.


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May 31, 2021, 12:30:39 PM
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Today the record in our country decreasing the infected in covid 19 virus per day and many people now go back in their work and also business store are open now with the following of health protocol, social distancing and wearing a mask. Hopefully this year many people to choice vaccinate, if they got infected its not worst it because of the vaccine.

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May 31, 2021, 01:28:07 PM
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Today the record in our country decreasing the infected in covid 19 virus per day and many people now go back in their work and also business store are open now with the following of health protocol, social distancing and wearing a mask. Hopefully this year many people to choice vaccinate, if they got infected its not worst it because of the vaccine.

The problem is that once the lockdown measures are lifted, people will again disobey the social distancing protocols and then the cycle will start again. The main issue now is that vaccination is proceeding extremely slowly. Also, some of the people who got one dose of the vaccine thinks that they are immune to the virus. They end up infecting themselves and those who are around them (including those who can't receive vaccines due to medical conditions). Here in India, a large number of new cases can be attributed to this phenomenon. 

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COVID FUD is Very Strong in this Forum!

Covid is a Coronavirus, just like many Coronavirus's we have faced in the past (Common Cold is often layman's term for a Coronavirus).

I had Covid in Feb 2020. It sucked! I had bad flu like symptoms, a severe headache, and was really tired & short of breath for a little over a week. While I was sick, I stayed locked up at home with my wife. Oddly she didn't get it, but I think that's because she had some natural immunity from a previous Cold Virus (Coronavirus) combined with the fact that she has a very healthy immune system bolstered by her hours of hiking every day (in the sun = Vitamin D). But when the vaccine came out, she took it just for peace of mind. So now we both have 95% immunity to a severe Common Cold with 95+% survival rate. (Much higher if you are young and healthy and spend your time in the sun!)

5% chance of contracting a disease that has less than 5% mortality rate equals less than 0.0025% risk. The mortality rate of hunger & poverty are exponentially higher than 0.0025%! So we must get back to work!

Never before have we shut down the world's economy to quarantine the Healthy! Why? Because it doesn't work! It's an airborne virus! If you're going to get it, you're going to get it, and there's a 95+% chance you'll be fine after feeling like crap for a few days. How long will it take you to recover from the crushed world economy?

Masks are useless against airborne viruses. An N-95 respirator is named for the fact that it blocks 95% of particals 3 microns and larger. A micron is 1/1000th of a meter, so 95% of 0.003 meter particals. That Coronavirus is 120 Nanometers in size (on average, some as small as 60nm some as large as 180nm). A Nanometer is 1/1000000th of a meter. So if I where a N-95 respirator I am blocking 95% of particals 0.003m to protect against 0.00012m sized bugs? 🤔 So this FUD campaign is equal to requiring chainlink fences around everyone's swimming pools to keep out the mosquitoes? Oh, BTW, those paper surgical masks, woven cloth masks with elastic ear straps, and bandana's are NOT N-95 respirator quality.

Lock up healthy people inside their caves so they don't see enough sunshine to make healthy levels of Vitamin D? Nonsense! Coronavirus comes from bats living in caves! This is the virus's absolute dream scenario for maximum infection! FUD

The Fiat Whales are circulating massive FUD campaigns to gobble up your Fiat and clamp down on your freedoms!

So Yes certainly we should do all we can to protect the elderly and immunocompromised! Get them vaccinated, and keep them away from anyone who might be sick, Yes this makes sense. After all they likely weren't producing a whole lot in the world economy anyway! And Of Course, if you are Sick or even think you "may" be getting sick, keep your happy ass at home until you are 100% fully recovered!

But if you are young and healthy Get To Work! The FUD and Economic Crash is driving millions into poverty, depression, and substance abuse. The mortality rate of the FUD is Exponentially higher than 0.0025%.

But this is just my opinion and everyone should do their own DD before contemplating investing into your own livelihood! Just remember, a lot of the FUD and censorship is being driven by corporate fat cat Fiat Whales and those interested in siezing world dominance through a massive economic catastrophe followed by a Great Reset. All major media outlets are beholden to CCP threats and censorship. You're a smart community, do your research and use your math, science, and logic. Life has a 100% mortality rate.
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May 31, 2021, 09:51:43 PM
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In my country, the normalization phases continue rapidly. businesses are slowly reopening. And if the distance is followed, the mask requirement is lifted in some areas. I think we beat the virus  Undecided
This situation will have a positive impact on the economy in a short time.


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Today the record in our country decreasing the infected in covid 19 virus per day and many people now go back in their work and also business store are open now with the following of health protocol, social distancing and wearing a mask. Hopefully this year many people to choice vaccinate, if they got infected its not worst it because of the vaccine.
The problem is that once the lockdown measures are lifted, people will again disobey the social distancing protocols and then the cycle will start again. The main issue now is that vaccination is proceeding extremely slowly. Also, some of the people who got one dose of the vaccine thinks that they are immune to the virus. They end up infecting themselves and those who are around them (including those who can't receive vaccines due to medical conditions). Here in India, a large number of new cases can be attributed to this phenomenon.  
Any lockdown leads to losses in the economy and it is pointless to continue introducing it after the epidemic. And during the continuation of the epidemic, we will have to accept some lack of awareness of the population and act with the carrot and stick method. Also, no one has canceled various methods of educating the population through television, through the film industry. It is also necessary to make some privileges for fully vaccinated citizens to encourage the rest of the population to carry out a full course of vaccination. And you should not spare money on this, because the health of citizens will then pay off many times in the economic activity of the state.


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