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April 09, 2021, 02:26:41 PM
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Bitcoin is becoming mainstream these days as major companies and investors are planning and already investing huge amounts in Bitcoin to increase their profits in the long run.But what about the working class?Are they willing to accept Bitcoin as regular source of payment in the form of salaries or bonus offered to them by companies? Although the retail investments in Bitcoin is growing with popularity and prices surges during this pandemic period but still a large percentage of people prefer to have stable income in form of fiat.But I was wrong and was surprised to see one such news when I came across this picture on instagram.



So the labour class or workers who work hard are also demanding Bitcoin in salary which is a very positive sign for it's mass adoption.This was one of the main aim of creating decentralised currency accepted by everyone providing them freedom of their funds.They have also recognised btc as one of the financial assest to support their families and increasing their profits also in the long run.Due to demand the government, institutions will have to make rules and regulations for btc adoption and pay the workers.We are moving to some major financial changes which can make btc as major source of payment and financial asset at the same time.Hope for it's speedy growth.

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April 09, 2021, 02:52:30 PM
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So the labour class or workers who work hard are also demanding Bitcoin in salary which is a very positive sign for it's mass adoption.

People that can afford to put some money away would prefer to be paid at least partly in Bitcoin to avoid 3rd party at buying.
Bitcoin can facilitate even more globalization of the work, since one may do the job, the other one can pay him and neither of them has to know name, country and other details about each other.
Also there are plenty of people still sending money home on the monthly basis and Bitcoin is a pretty good choice for that.

But bull market won't last forever and I won't suggest people have full income in Bitcoin, especially if there's family depending on them and no backup funds in banks.
Also while paying in Bitcoin can help companies do tax evasion, the employees may have to pay income tax when selling their bitcoin to buy food.

All in all it's a rather complicated topic (socially and legally) and unfortunately most countries' legislation is not prepared for this.

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April 09, 2021, 02:59:42 PM
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Using(and accepting) bitcoin to be able to send it to their families overseas is one of the very obvious use-cases of bitcoin. Wire transfers and whatever oversea transfer options are simply too expensive and takes too long.

On the other hand though, I'm quite surprised that stablecoins seem to not be gaining that much traction for overseas workers. While I sure love bitcoin, some of them simply cant afford the potential losses from the volatility.

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April 09, 2021, 03:06:46 PM
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Workers cannot realistically live off Bitcoin salaries. Paying people off in Bitcoin is a mistake. Should the crypto enter a winter era, all of their savings will decrease in value substantially. What comes forward from that is a huge number of complaints that Bitcoin is crap and destroyed their lives. I understand it's a great way to quickly send bucks to your family without being asked anything by authorities, but as a monthly wage it's a bad idea.

Also.. what about fees? Will a worker pay $5 in fees for a $1 coffee? Bitcoin isn't as cheap as it used to be. People who've never touched crypto will think getting rich through them is as easy as 1-2-3. Making money out of BTC requires a level of patience very, very few have.

Just my 2c tho.
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April 09, 2021, 03:15:12 PM
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Workers cannot realistically live off Bitcoin salaries. Paying people off in Bitcoin is a mistake. Should the crypto enter a winter era, all of their savings will decrease in value substantially. What comes forward from that is a huge number of complaints that Bitcoin is crap and destroyed their lives. I understand it's a great way to quickly send bucks to your family without being asked anything by authorities, but as a monthly wage it's a bad idea.
This type of problem is inevitable. And the reason it will lead to this is because the working class will not take the time to learn about the downs of crypto with no longer having salaries in fiat, and they don't have the time to learn because they have to work. It will be a real problem if this is not passed down with great care.


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Also.. what about fees? Will a worker pay $5 in fees for a $1 coffee? Bitcoin isn't as cheap as it used to be. People who've never touched crypto will think getting rich through them is as easy as 1-2-3. Making money out of BTC requires a level of patience very, very few have.

Just my 2c tho.
You're right. The everyday use of BTC (and crypto) generally is posing too many problems. This is why I think there will be a long time before any of this can materialise into what fiat is today. We're taking the right steps but we still have a long way to go...
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April 09, 2021, 03:32:48 PM
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Workers cannot realistically live off Bitcoin salaries. Paying people off in Bitcoin is a mistake. Should the crypto enter a winter era, all of their savings will decrease in value substantially. What comes forward from that is a huge number of complaints that Bitcoin is crap and destroyed their lives. I understand it's a great way to quickly send bucks to your family without being asked anything by authorities, but as a monthly wage it's a bad idea.

Also.. what about fees? Will a worker pay $5 in fees for a $1 coffee? Bitcoin isn't as cheap as it used to be. People who've never touched crypto will think getting rich through them is as easy as 1-2-3. Making money out of BTC requires a level of patience very, very few have.

Just my 2c tho.

While you have a point, I'm guessing that most of these people aren't really going to be "hodlers" anyway. I'm guessing it's mostly going to be as such:

1. Them receiving the bitcoin on Coinbase or whatever exchange wallet
2. Converting a good chunk of the bitcoin to local fiat for their personal expenses
3. Send the leftover bitcoin to their overseas family's custodial exchange wallet

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April 09, 2021, 03:38:54 PM
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I guess not all workers agree with this because most of them are doing the work and they want to get paid the amount of their salary. There is a lot of scenarios that can happen let's say they paid right and equal but the market volatility takes down the price of the bitcoin and this is a large loss to them instead of getting a fair price they lose a percentage of their salary.

It's better if they have choices if they want to adopt or back to the traditional payment of salary.
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April 09, 2021, 03:54:10 PM
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I am not actually sure that this picture is actually made with actual scenario but no one ever asked to pay them in bitcoins because of the price volatility, imagine the price dumped 20% overnight at the salary day can cause huge issue for the people and especially this day the network will be highly congested and also Whales can use this day for manipulating prices.

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April 09, 2021, 04:24:52 PM
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This could actually be a good thing for some of the workers to have the opportunity to invest in bitcoins, I guess companies are planning to invest in bitcoin or go all-in when it comes to cryptocurrency.

Resulting in this allowing their employee to received bitcoin as their salary, I mean this is what bitcoin is used for and could make things easier for workers, but hopefully, they don't get scam by these companies.

One of the issues is fees are the workers is the ones to pay fees here? one more thing is bitcoin might not be a good choice, for now, to use still I would go for fiat since its kinda risky for them, probably they would just sell it because they need the salary to survice.

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April 09, 2021, 04:42:56 PM
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Workers cannot realistically live off Bitcoin salaries. Paying people off in Bitcoin is a mistake.
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Does this picture really reflect the desires of the heavy workers / construction workers? I'm not completely sure yet. It is possible that the drawing was made up of only a few small parts of them. Even with their knowledge of bitcoin, I think they only know how expensive it is. Behind the article above they don't think about how winding the process you get from bitcoin salaries until you share it with your family. But it is true that if crypto is an alternative transaction between worlds it can make fees small for a few coins. But for the class of BTC, BCH sending costs are very expensive but apart from that there are other alternative coins.
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April 09, 2021, 04:54:05 PM
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There aren't no factual data or statistics to this claim, so while we know that there is indeed a huge demand and interest on bitcoin from the general public, it doesn't necessarily constitute to the workers wanting bitcoin as a form of payment for their work.

A huge percent of laborers are still well below the middle class—those who can at least afford some leeway on how they spend their salary—and are still struggling to make ends meet, especially during the pandemic when most prices soared due to logistics, supply, or other constraints on the chain. For sure these laborers would prioritize putting some food on the plate and a roof over their heads above all things. Most of the salary that they are receiving don't even last long on their hands, and are immediately used to pay for rent or to buy for a few weeks worth of supply.

While the added option of receiving your salary in bitcoin could be a good idea for some people, I don't think it's a must right now considering that the economy is still in a pretty bad shape and is still struggling to recover.

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April 09, 2021, 04:59:27 PM
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How did that article ended up having that number, a million? it is not questionable that many would love to use it for transfers as it's becoming popular and known what bitcoin really is. But that statistic that says about a million foreign workers, how did they collected that data or did they do any survey that have ended up with a result of a million foreign workers? as much as we like it and hearing it is very encouraging but sometimes the data that has been said on articles aren't that much truthful imho.

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April 09, 2021, 05:09:04 PM
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For me, it would nice to receive a salary in Bitcoin. But the issue is how will I cash out it. For now, whatever earning lately selling peer to peer. But I would face problems if the amount is big and regular. Because my government does not accept Bitcoin. Holding for a long time wouldn't possible due to daily needs. So the same problem would have occurred if the company willing to pay a salary in Bitcoin. But there would choose, workers would choose payment methods accordingly. I know if most big companies want to pay a salary in Bitcoin then it would be a massive adaption for Bitcoin. But it would take more long time to introduce Bitcoin to worldwide workers.
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April 09, 2021, 05:11:03 PM
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Workers cannot realistically live off Bitcoin salaries. Paying people off in Bitcoin is a mistake. Should the crypto enter a winter era, all of their savings will decrease in value substantially. What comes forward from that is a huge number of complaints that Bitcoin is crap and destroyed their lives. I understand it's a great way to quickly send bucks to your family without being asked anything by authorities, but as a monthly wage it's a bad idea.

Also.. what about fees? Will a worker pay $5 in fees for a $1 coffee? Bitcoin isn't as cheap as it used to be. People who've never touched crypto will think getting rich through them is as easy as 1-2-3. Making money out of BTC requires a level of patience very, very few have.

Just my 2c tho.
I think that employees should be able to make their own decisions about the preferred currency (fiat or crypto) because their money is their choice and responsibility. As for the risks, I think the salary would still be fixed in fiat, just paid in BTC. And in that case it would be easier for people to send money to relatives who live in other countries, and it's not like when you're paid in Bitcoin you cannot convert the money you need into fiat. It's also very interesting how many people are indeed interested in such options because a screenshot of an image from social media doesn't say much.

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April 09, 2021, 05:21:14 PM
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Bitcoin is becoming mainstream these days as major companies and investors are planning and already investing huge amounts in Bitcoin to increase their profits in the long run.But what about the working class?Are they willing to accept Bitcoin as regular source of payment in the form of salaries or bonus offered to them by companies? Although the retail investments in Bitcoin is growing with popularity and prices surges during this pandemic period but still a large percentage of people prefer to have stable income in form of fiat.But I was wrong and was surprised to see one such news when I came across this picture on instagram.



So the labour class or workers who work hard are also demanding Bitcoin in salary which is a very positive sign for it's mass adoption.This was one of the main aim of creating decentralised currency accepted by everyone providing them freedom of their funds.They have also recognised btc as one of the financial assest to support their families and increasing their profits also in the long run.Due to demand the government, institutions will have to make rules and regulations for btc adoption and pay the workers.We are moving to some major financial changes which can make btc as major source of payment and financial asset at the same time.Hope for it's speedy growth.

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I am not getting what is the demand here? If they just want bitcoins to send payments home they can very easily buy bitcoins with whichever currency that they receive. If the demand is that the labour rate be pegged in btc value I think it's impossible until the employer gets his revenues in BTC why would he take such a huge exchange risk? If anyone in the working class thinks BTC is so lucrative why aren't they buying it on their own? I think it's impossible for anyone to make their payments/expenses in cryptocurrency while the income stream of that company is in cryptos. Will these workers do the same for their expenses?? The answer is an obvious no. Moreover, with such high daily volatility, it makes no sense currently to peg anything in bitcoin.
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April 09, 2021, 05:41:28 PM
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Does this picture really reflect the desires of the heavy workers / construction workers? I'm not completely sure yet. It is possible that the drawing was made up of only a few small parts of them.

Feels like:


The workers are rebelling against the bankers, the revolution has come comrades!!!
We the steelworkers of the USSR are going to only accept bitcoins!!!!

Unfortunately, the truth is the ones that will afford to risk a part of their income to be paid and KEPT in BTC and not immediately sell all the coins for fiat to buy food are not going to be factory workers but people from the upper class, it's a simple question of income and expenses.

There aren't no factual data or statistics to this claim, so while we know that there is indeed a huge demand and interest on bitcoin from the general public, it doesn't necessarily constitute to the workers wanting bitcoin as a form of payment for their work.

It's millions bruh! Millions!
And the data is there, worle1bm has found it on Instagram, it has to be true!!

If that would have been the case we would have gone above 60k a long time ago,  imagine billions of $ buying coins to pay those wages, and furthermore imagine that if those people demand their wage in BTC it means they have already bought and are constantly buying coins, but it's not that time yet a few thousand maybe, millions, no there is indeed a lot of room to grow but let's not fool ourselves we've reached that level already. Plus imagine the payment day for 10 million people or the 20 payments days as it's going to be a long wait to pay that many with 400k tx a day capacity.
 

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April 09, 2021, 05:47:05 PM
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Unfortunately, the truth is the ones that will afford to risk a part of their income to be paid and KEPT in BTC and not immediately sell all the coins for fiat to buy food are not going to be factory workers but people from the upper class, it's a simple question of income and expenses.

I was going to say something similar. Bitcoin today is primarily a store of value: it makes much more sense to save it than to spend it. So why are workers going to collect their salary in Bitcoin if they are going to spend it? Only a select few can save it, as you comment. Spending a financial asset (which today is not a currency) when everything indicates that in the coming years it will continue to rise more and more does not seem very smart financially speaking.


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April 09, 2021, 06:04:28 PM
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Are they willing to accept Bitcoin as regular source of payment in the form of salaries or bonus offered to them by companies? Although the retail investments in Bitcoin is growing with popularity and prices surges during this pandemic period but still a large percentage of people prefer to have stable income in form of fiat.
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I doubt they will want to accept bitcoin as a regular source of payment. Bitcoin is currently more of a store of value, then a currency that can be used as a regular coin for making daily life transactions. There "are" flaws that needs to be fixed. Look at how crazy the fees become when the network is underload. Lets not talking about how slow the network confirmation becomes if you don't pay "premium" fees.
Bitcoin wouldn't be idea, but perhaps some other crypto currencies might suit better?

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April 09, 2021, 06:56:13 PM
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Hello everybody. I do not know about the demand in the whole world, but the fact that in my team, which has 16 people, - Bitcoin was bought, in the last 6 months, by 9 people. People who do not even understand cryptocurrency really start saving money, not in a bank, but in cryptocurrency. I think it cannot be otherwise - the excitement for Bitcoin is not only among workers, people in the far corners of the country and in villages are already thinking of investing in Digital Gold. The Internet now exists in the most remote areas - news spreads quickly - there is nothing to be surprised at.
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April 09, 2021, 07:05:43 PM
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Bitcoin is becoming mainstream these days as major companies and investors are planning and already investing huge amounts in Bitcoin to increase their profits in the long run.But what about the working class?Are they willing to accept Bitcoin as regular source of payment in the form of salaries or bonus offered to them by companies? Although the retail investments in Bitcoin is growing with popularity and prices surges during this pandemic period but still a large percentage of people prefer to have stable income in form of fiat.But I was wrong and was surprised to see one such news when I came across this picture on instagram.



So the labour class or workers who work hard are also demanding Bitcoin in salary which is a very positive sign for it's mass adoption.This was one of the main aim of creating decentralised currency accepted by everyone providing them freedom of their funds.They have also recognised btc as one of the financial assest to support their families and increasing their profits also in the long run.Due to demand the government, institutions will have to make rules and regulations for btc adoption and pay the workers.We are moving to some major financial changes which can make btc as major source of payment and financial asset at the same time.Hope for it's speedy growth.

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Getting salary in Bitcoin is both good and bad. Good because you can grow your money if you save BTC unlike fiat that depreciate with time, BTC will only grow in value.
But that's the one side of picture, BTC is highly volatile too. If you need to cash out BTC, it is possible that it's price is less than it was at the time when you get it paid.
Then you will suffer loss.
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