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April 29, 2021, 06:08:03 PM
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That's right. The first degree of recovery from any addiction is admitting there is a problem to deal with. If a person does not acknowledge that there is a problem or tries to blame it on others, it will never be solved.

I have met many strong people in my life who have managed to beat various addictions that are much stronger than gambling addiction. So everything is in our hands, we just need to make an effort.

After admitting the process of recovering are relying with how the person believes that he can be helped. There are different treatment  from this wide cases of addictions.

Some can just moveaway for awhile and find ways to enjoy their time with the company of their friends and love ones,
while for some they needed closer attentions from experts.

Either way, the person are accountable in each  actions that he'll going to take while undergoing treatment.

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April 30, 2021, 10:02:17 AM
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I've not been losing anything since last year and you know why?
Because I've stopped gambling on casinos (only enjoying a lot betting on sports where I've a strict bankroll management)
I'm so tempted to play again but I'm afraid of losing, therefore I'll have to set a strategy or define how much I want to gamble. Or I simply have to stay out of casinos.
I guess you have good control for yourself so you do not gamble on casinos. We should have control like you and not gambling too often to prevent the big loss.
Be careful because the temptation can become bigger without realizing it, especially if you see many gamblers can win from the games.
I hope you do not lose your control and can still prevent playing gambling instead of holding your funds.
If you afraid of losing, you can stay away from casinos and do something else to let your mind do not think about gambling.
Like I wrote, I enjoy very much betting on football and I think that when the major European competitions will be over also my sports gambling activity will close fro the summer. And I'm not planning to go back to casinos anytime soon.
One never knows if that temptation is small enough to be controlled and suppressed or else.
I think someone who knows when to stop gambling is the winner because he has full control over himself so he does not try to search for the other gambling games just to win.
It is good if you do not have a plan to back to the casino and I think it is better to enjoy yourself with the other things and who knows, you can make money from that things

I've not been losing anything since last year and you know why?
Because I've stopped gambling on casinos (only enjoying a lot betting on sports where I've a strict bankroll management)
I'm so tempted to play again but I'm afraid of losing, therefore I'll have to set a strategy or define how much I want to gamble. Or I simply have to stay out of casinos.
I guess you have good control for yourself so you do not gamble on casinos. We should have control like you and not gambling too often to prevent the big loss.
Be careful because the temptation can become bigger without realizing it, especially if you see many gamblers can win from the games.
I hope you do not lose your control and can still prevent playing gambling instead of holding your funds.
If you afraid of losing, you can stay away from casinos and do something else to let your mind do not think about gambling.
I think sports betting games help us to have better restrictions and control than conventional gambling games that have fast game speed because the time per game is relatively long, besides, the analysis combined with our understanding of the game is enough to give us an advantage in betting. However, you say very precisely that greed sometimes gets bigger, for a few moments when our awareness delves into gambling, mistakes are already hard to erase, so avoiding the whisper of gambling is better.
If you can control yourself, you can play any gambling games, not just sports betting or conventional gambling games because you will know about the limitations you must use to prevent the big loss.
In sports betting, you need to have analysis to search for the right team with a chance to win.
What we always prevent is the greediness that can come to us in the winning time.
If you let the greediness stay longer in yourself, you will see that you will lose the money in the next rounds, even your winning money.

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April 30, 2021, 05:32:04 PM
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To begin with, I would advise you to change your lifestyle, e.g. go travelling for a month. A change of scenery should do you good.

Very often a gambling addict is simply unable to cope with their misfortune alone, so it is better to seek professional help. Gambling addiction can be compared to tobacco smoking. Someone can easily quit smoking on their own and someone needs psychological help and even medication to relieve stress.
The problem with addictions is that it is easy to quit for one day but it is way more difficult to quit for good, as you say most of the time the life of the person that has some gambling problems is dominated by gambling and a change of scenery could be good for them, this is why you need to involvement of the family to help the addicted to recover, but many times those that are gambling addicts hide this from their families thinking they can do it on their own, and as you may guess very few people escape addiction when they try to do everything on their own.
I believe that as long as you have the will, You can escape gambling addiction. Escaping gambling addiction isn't a one-day process, This is why taking rehab in a rehabilitation center takes months or even years before you get out. I am an ex gambling addict and I suffered countless losses before I realized to myself that I need to stop.  I take the slow process of removing the addiction into my body, I didn't take the fast process because I know that the effectiveness of it is so low. Being helped by your family member is a great plus in recovering yourself but It is doable even if you do it alone.
This is nice to hear, stopping your gambling addiction is a process and it is one that takes very long, but as you said it all starts with a decision, the addicted gambler needs to realize how much he is damaging himself and start the process of healing himself, it is not easy at all and the temptation is always going to be there but it can be overcome by a strong desire to stop gambling, unfortunately just as there are many that can get out of a gambling addiction there are also cases of people unable to do this and they end up losing way more than their money as their families eventually leave them as they cannot deal with their addiction anymore.
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April 30, 2021, 05:59:13 PM
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To begin with, I would advise you to change your lifestyle, e.g. go travelling for a month. A change of scenery should do you good.

Very often a gambling addict is simply unable to cope with their misfortune alone, so it is better to seek professional help. Gambling addiction can be compared to tobacco smoking. Someone can easily quit smoking on their own and someone needs psychological help and even medication to relieve stress.
The problem with addictions is that it is easy to quit for one day but it is way more difficult to quit for good, as you say most of the time the life of the person that has some gambling problems is dominated by gambling and a change of scenery could be good for them, this is why you need to involvement of the family to help the addicted to recover, but many times those that are gambling addicts hide this from their families thinking they can do it on their own, and as you may guess very few people escape addiction when they try to do everything on their own.
I believe that as long as you have the will, You can escape gambling addiction. Escaping gambling addiction isn't a one-day process, This is why taking rehab in a rehabilitation center takes months or even years before you get out. I am an ex gambling addict and I suffered countless losses before I realized to myself that I need to stop.  I take the slow process of removing the addiction into my body, I didn't take the fast process because I know that the effectiveness of it is so low. Being helped by your family member is a great plus in recovering yourself but It is doable even if you do it alone.
This is nice to hear, stopping your gambling addiction is a process and it is one that takes very long, but as you said it all starts with a decision, the addicted gambler needs to realize how much he is damaging himself and start the process of healing himself, it is not easy at all and the temptation is always going to be there but it can be overcome by a strong desire to stop gambling, unfortunately just as there are many that can get out of a gambling addiction there are also cases of people unable to do this and they end up losing way more than their money as their families eventually leave them as they cannot deal with their addiction anymore.
You should be aware on any actions that you do made because this would be a deciding factor neither you would mess up your life or not specially if dealing with market.

Gambling is should really be for fun but other people do take it into another level where they do expect that they can make out guaranteed profits to it until they have lost and break
those expectation which would trigger out another impulsive behavior.

Dont mind about making money but rather mind on the fun that you had attained. Winning is just a bonus and you do have to put that in mind.
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April 30, 2021, 06:16:24 PM
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I think someone who knows when to stop gambling is the winner because he has full control over himself so he does not try to search for the other gambling games just to win.
It is good if you do not have a plan to back to the casino and I think it is better to enjoy yourself with the other things and who knows, you can make money from that things

This. You win when you know when to stop. If you can't stop, you will never win. Don't be greedy neither. You had a lucky streak? That's great. Now learn to realize your profits and move on because if you keep playing you'll lose that sweet winnings. Betting as a job is very stressful, if you are doing this to make money you are also doing it wrong imo.

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April 30, 2021, 06:23:32 PM
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To begin with, I would advise you to change your lifestyle, e.g. go travelling for a month. A change of scenery should do you good.

Very often a gambling addict is simply unable to cope with their misfortune alone, so it is better to seek professional help. Gambling addiction can be compared to tobacco smoking. Someone can easily quit smoking on their own and someone needs psychological help and even medication to relieve stress.
The problem with addictions is that it is easy to quit for one day but it is way more difficult to quit for good, as you say most of the time the life of the person that has some gambling problems is dominated by gambling and a change of scenery could be good for them, this is why you need to involvement of the family to help the addicted to recover, but many times those that are gambling addicts hide this from their families thinking they can do it on their own, and as you may guess very few people escape addiction when they try to do everything on their own.
I believe that as long as you have the will, You can escape gambling addiction. Escaping gambling addiction isn't a one-day process, This is why taking rehab in a rehabilitation center takes months or even years before you get out. I am an ex gambling addict and I suffered countless losses before I realized to myself that I need to stop.  I take the slow process of removing the addiction into my body, I didn't take the fast process because I know that the effectiveness of it is so low. Being helped by your family member is a great plus in recovering yourself but It is doable even if you do it alone.
This is nice to hear, stopping your gambling addiction is a process and it is one that takes very long, but as you said it all starts with a decision, the addicted gambler needs to realize how much he is damaging himself and start the process of healing himself, it is not easy at all and the temptation is always going to be there but it can be overcome by a strong desire to stop gambling, unfortunately just as there are many that can get out of a gambling addiction there are also cases of people unable to do this and they end up losing way more than their money as their families eventually leave them as they cannot deal with their addiction anymore.
You should be aware on any actions that you do made because this would be a deciding factor neither you would mess up your life or not specially if dealing with market.

Gambling is should really be for fun but other people do take it into another level where they do expect that they can make out guaranteed profits to it until they have lost and break
those expectation which would trigger out another impulsive behavior.

Dont mind about making money but rather mind on the fun that you had attained. Winning is just a bonus and you do have to put that in mind.
That is very important and you'll never find success in real life if you are not comfortable with what you did.
We don't need to be overly disappointed for the losses but rather to keep smiling and think that this is how gambling works. That is why we use money that we can afford to lose from our hands. Although how much we tried our best still doesn't enough to win, LUCK is really what we need for.
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April 30, 2021, 06:26:59 PM
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~ Dont mind about making money but rather mind on the fun that you had attained. Winning is just a bonus and you do have to put that in mind.

Unfortunately, most gamblers forget this. If a player is constantly waiting to win and this does not happen for a long time, the emotional background gradually changes in the opposite direction and the brain is trying to protect its master from the negative influence from the outside connects its defense mechanisms, which lead to a wrong perception of reality because of what man has lost complete control of himself.  

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May 01, 2021, 06:23:52 AM
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Unfortunately, most gamblers forget this. If a player is constantly waiting to win and this does not happen for a long time, the emotional background gradually changes in the opposite direction and the brain is trying to protect its master from the negative influence from the outside connects its defense mechanisms, which lead to a wrong perception of reality because of what man has lost complete control of himself.  
I slightly agree, instead of the opposite direction I think it slowly shifts your mindset to an aggressive direction since you've been expecting a different outcome for quite some time and it becomes demoralizing when the situation rarely goes in your favor so we tend to get greedy and go all out.

Dont mind about making money but rather mind on the fun that you had attained. Winning is just a bonus and you do have to put that in mind.
Looking back at some of our fun gambling times does sound nice but most gamblers view it the other way around and take it way too serious since there's money on the line.

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May 01, 2021, 11:13:00 AM
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I think someone who knows when to stop gambling is the winner because he has full control over himself so he does not try to search for the other gambling games just to win.
It is good if you do not have a plan to back to the casino and I think it is better to enjoy yourself with the other things and who knows, you can make money from that things

This. You win when you know when to stop. If you can't stop, you will never win. Don't be greedy neither. You had a lucky streak? That's great. Now learn to realize your profits and move on because if you keep playing you'll lose that sweet winnings. Betting as a job is very stressful, if you are doing this to make money you are also doing it wrong imo.
That's why we do not have to use betting as a job because we can not always win the games every day.
There will be a time for us to lose and we do not know how much money we will lose, but that should be big money to lose.
Greedy is something that we must avoid. Otherwise, we will never enjoy our winning money because we will attract to play more rounds.
Stopping gambling while we have that money will be recommended because we can cash out the money and use it for buying what we want.

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May 01, 2021, 11:59:14 AM
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This is nice to hear, stopping your gambling addiction is a process and it is one that takes very long, but as you said it all starts with a decision, the addicted gambler needs to realize how much he is damaging himself and start the process of healing himself, it is not easy at all and the temptation is always going to be there but it can be overcome by a strong desire to stop gambling, unfortunately just as there are many that can get out of a gambling addiction there are also cases of people unable to do this and they end up losing way more than their money as their families eventually leave them as they cannot deal with their addiction anymore.

It seems to me that such psychological addictions as gambling initially infects those people who have nothing special to value (family, career, other interesting occupation). Gambling is not a chemical addiction and if at a certain moment a person cannot stop for the sake of his family, then most likely he initially did not particularly value it.

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This is nice to hear, stopping your gambling addiction is a process and it is one that takes very long, but as you said it all starts with a decision, the addicted gambler needs to realize how much he is damaging himself and start the process of healing himself, it is not easy at all and the temptation is always going to be there but it can be overcome by a strong desire to stop gambling, unfortunately just as there are many that can get out of a gambling addiction there are also cases of people unable to do this and they end up losing way more than their money as their families eventually leave them as they cannot deal with their addiction anymore.

It seems to me that such psychological addictions as gambling initially infects those people who have nothing special to value (family, career, other interesting occupation). Gambling is not a chemical addiction and if at a certain moment a person cannot stop for the sake of his family, then most likely he initially did not particularly value it.
This is true, because I've been asked by my girl why can't you value us. Atleast thinking of our family why don't you get out of gambling. Never and ever think gambling as a fun factor, because the after effects will cause massive loss in terms of financial and psychologically. Even now at times I feel blank thinking of my gambling activities.

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May 01, 2021, 12:19:05 PM
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If you have been playing(gambling) for a long time and you happen to get a day to win some games I think anyone would want to push their luck to try chase those loses you had some time back Tongue to turn them into profits.

But like everyone says, the house always wins which is why losing is always guaranteed because greed follows winners and emotions follow loses who go all in to wipe out their account.

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May 01, 2021, 12:42:20 PM
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I think someone who knows when to stop gambling is the winner because he has full control over himself so he does not try to search for the other gambling games just to win.
It is good if you do not have a plan to back to the casino and I think it is better to enjoy yourself with the other things and who knows, you can make money from that things

This. You win when you know when to stop. If you can't stop, you will never win. Don't be greedy neither. You had a lucky streak? That's great. Now learn to realize your profits and move on because if you keep playing you'll lose that sweet winnings. Betting as a job is very stressful, if you are doing this to make money you are also doing it wrong imo.

Many people just keep on playing and therefore they loose what ever they have earned in profit. If someone is addicted to gambling and its impossible for him/her to stay away from gambling, then the best bet is to move the profits out of the gambling site and keep on playing with the seed money. This way even if you loose all your seed money after playing  few games, you still have your profits secured in a safe place.
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May 01, 2021, 12:52:42 PM
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If you have been playing(gambling) for a long time and you happen to get a day to win some games I think anyone would want to push their luck to try chase those loses you had some time back Tongue to turn them into profits.

But like everyone says, the house always wins which is why losing is always guaranteed because greed follows winners and emotions follow loses who go all in to wipe out their account.

I think saying "The Casino always wins" is just there to make us feel better after losing. Because it is not true, there are plenty of people who won in the casinos and managed to take their profit and stop gambling. It all comes down to how good we control ourself and how good we have our emotions in check. Once we are in the green and won a few games then we start to feel that everything will be going into our favour. We keep focusing too much on the winnings and forget about the risks involved. I think one good way to try and focus more on a gambling is to work with limits for our weekly money we use for gambling.
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May 01, 2021, 04:32:28 PM
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If you have been playing(gambling) for a long time and you happen to get a day to win some games I think anyone would want to push their luck to try chase those loses you had some time back Tongue to turn them into profits.

But like everyone says, the house always wins which is why losing is always guaranteed because greed follows winners and emotions follow loses who go all in to wipe out their account.

I think saying "The Casino always wins" is just there to make us feel better after losing. Because it is not true, there are plenty of people who won in the casinos and managed to take their profit and stop gambling. It all comes down to how good we control ourself and how good we have our emotions in check. Once we are in the green and won a few games then we start to feel that everything will be going into our favour. We keep focusing too much on the winnings and forget about the risks involved. I think one good way to try and focus more on a gambling is to work with limits for our weekly money we use for gambling.
" casino always wins " can make everyone scared to gamble because they understand it incorectly .
 it cannot make me feel better when i loose but " casinos are meant for entertaintment " sounded better to me after a loss .
 its true that when we are lucky the luck continue because i experience playing continously when im lucky in few games that i can won for more rounds but does not work when i started with a red streaks but the hard part is to figure out when our luck ends .
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May 01, 2021, 04:51:23 PM
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Since you know that 10K wagering amount looks too high according to your financial status then you shouldn't have such goal of reaching VIP status. Make your goals realistic which applies to the gambling as well or else its like hitting a jackpot or lottery so you solely rely on your luck to reach that. You win and you lose so make sure you play with the amount which is not comes from your entire savings.









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Hello to all! Another topic about casinos and games. I started playing at the Stake.com quite often. At the very beginning I thought I would just play in the evening, but one evening turned into a constant game during the day. On the first deposit, I was lucky and I took out a little, it was x3 of my deposit and I was happy. Recently, I just started making stupid deposits and trying to win something and I understand that this is self-deception, but I cannot stop and make more and more deposits. I decided to make the 1st level of VIP, but for this I need to make a turnover of 10k dollars, but I am a player with low stakes and this is difficult for me to do. You seem to understand everything that you will lose, but you go to play again. How to get rid of gambling addiction?

Just like trading, set your stop loss or cut loss. For example, if you already commit three consecutive losses within an hour or within the day of your gambling, no more hesitation, no more questions, stop gambling then try it on the next day. I do not know if you believe in luck but somehow I believe in it. We are not lucky everyday so everyday will not be our day. Another, get rid of gambling by trying to give value on our time and money. Instead of gambling all day, we can spent our time like studying trading. Instead of putting our extra money on gambling we can try to invest in promising coins.

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May 03, 2021, 07:17:35 AM
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Hello to all! Another topic about casinos and games. I started playing at the Stake.com quite often. At the very beginning I thought I would just play in the evening, but one evening turned into a constant game during the day. On the first deposit, I was lucky and I took out a little, it was x3 of my deposit and I was happy. Recently, I just started making stupid deposits and trying to win something and I understand that this is self-deception, but I cannot stop and make more and more deposits. I decided to make the 1st level of VIP, but for this I need to make a turnover of 10k dollars, but I am a player with low stakes and this is difficult for me to do. You seem to understand everything that you will lose, but you go to play again. How to get rid of gambling addiction?

Just like trading, set your stop loss or cut loss. For example, if you already commit three consecutive losses within an hour or within the day of your gambling, no more hesitation, no more questions, stop gambling then try it on the next day. I do not know if you believe in luck but somehow I believe in it. We are not lucky everyday so everyday will not be our day. Another, get rid of gambling by trying to give value on our time and money. Instead of gambling all day, we can spent our time like studying trading. Instead of putting our extra money on gambling we can try to invest in promising coins.

Yes, I agree - it's a very good idea! 

The gambling addiction arises from the lack of adrenaline. 

Man is born a fighter, warrior and hunter. 

A calm and measured life destroys and kills him.  Trading and investing are activities that are associated with drive and excitement.  At the same time, while trading, you continue to control your life, and do not rely entirely on fate and luck. 

The negative side of gambling is the formation of learned helplessness, when there is no correlation between a person's actions and his victories and achievements.

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May 03, 2021, 11:09:55 AM
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~ Dont mind about making money but rather mind on the fun that you had attained. Winning is just a bonus and you do have to put that in mind.

Unfortunately, most gamblers forget this. If a player is constantly waiting to win and this does not happen for a long time, the emotional background gradually changes in the opposite direction and the brain is trying to protect its master from the negative influence from the outside connects its defense mechanisms, which lead to a wrong perception of reality because of what man has lost complete control of himself.  

I disagree.

Our brain does not protect us from negative influence that we develop in our mind, in fact, the brain generates on what we called "dopamine" that triggers either greed or any kind of pleasure, so technically when you're being greedy, it is the brain that leads you to addiction because it is what you wanted to do, remember, we control our own body. So whatever we command to the brain, it will follow if we will include some actions.
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May 03, 2021, 11:50:30 AM
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Since you know that 10K wagering amount looks too high according to your financial status then you shouldn't have such goal of reaching VIP status. Make your goals realistic which applies to the gambling as well or else its like hitting a jackpot or lottery so you solely rely on your luck to reach that. You win and you lose so make sure you play with the amount which is not comes from your entire savings.

Reaching a goal like a special status on a casino can have one benefits like getting better rake back and maybe paying smaller fees. But these are just percentages of our winning. If in the quest to reach that status we turn our wins into losses than it's definitely not worth it. We need to gamble responsible and in accordance with our net worth. If our bankroll is only 10k than we should never bet all of it, the risk of losing it all is just too high.
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